'The Deadliest Car Brand in America Is …
Will you be surprised? Here’s a hint: It’s an American automaker.'

<https://www.motortrend.com/news/deadliest-car-brand-in-america/>

'iSeeCars has an interesting analysis of vehicle fatality rates (using
the NHTSA Fatality Analysis Reporting System and then adjusted by miles
traveled using iSeeCar’s own data) that reaches some fascinating (and,
admittedly, grisly) conclusions. On one hand, the list confirms some
basic vehicle safety concepts, like that the physics of a multi-vehicle
crash favor the larger vehicles, and so forth. Small vehicles (physics),
sports cars (risk-taking behavior), and some mainstream vehicles
(perhaps just the sheer amount of them on the road?) tend to have the
highest fatality rates. On the other hand, the brand with the highest
number of fatal crashes per mile might surprise you.'

't’s an American automaker, a relative newcomer, exclusively builds EVs,
and has arguably the most controversial (and richest) CEO in vehicular
history. Yes, it’s Tesla. iSeeCars pegs the Tesla fatality rate at 5.6
accidents per billion vehicle miles traveled. This does not factor in
any information about non-fatal crashes; it only includes FARS data in
which at least one occupant died in the crash.'

On 11/29/24 12:24, John Smyth wrote:
> 'The Deadliest Car Brand in America Is …
> Will you be surprised? Here’s a hint: It’s an American automaker.'
>
> <https://www.motortrend.com/news/deadliest-car-brand-in-america/>
>
> 'iSeeCars has an interesting analysis of vehicle fatality rates (using
> the NHTSA Fatality Analysis Reporting System and then adjusted by miles
> traveled using iSeeCar’s own data) that reaches some fascinating (and,
> admittedly, grisly) conclusions. On one hand, the list confirms some
> basic vehicle safety concepts, like that the physics of a multi-vehicle
> crash favor the larger vehicles, and so forth. Small vehicles (physics),
> sports cars (risk-taking behavior), and some mainstream vehicles
> (perhaps just the sheer amount of them on the road?) tend to have the
> highest fatality rates. On the other hand, the brand with the highest
> number of fatal crashes per mile might surprise you.'
>
> 't’s an American automaker, a relative newcomer, exclusively builds EVs,
> and has arguably the most controversial (and richest) CEO in vehicular
> history. Yes, it’s Tesla. iSeeCars pegs the Tesla fatality rate at 5.6
> accidents per billion vehicle miles traveled. This does not factor in
> any information about non-fatal crashes; it only includes FARS data in
> which at least one occupant died in the crash.'

“A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without
being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to
arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving,”

With over a million accident free miles I agree with the above, so that
tells me that Tesla drivers have their mind elsewhere ...or nowhere, not
having one in the first place.

--
All species of mobile phones, media devices, Bluetooth or not, and
onboard presentation systems beyond what is essential for vehicle
control should automatically disable themselves within 10 meters of any
vehicle in motion at any speed. *Hands-Free does NOT mean Brain-Free*.
In the case of approaching vehicles (pedestrian use included) that
distance should be multiplied (prorated) for every 5km/h of CLOSURE
speed (i.e. no such device should be operable within 200 meters of any
vehicle approaching at 100 km/h). Manufacturers of devices in which such
an automatic lockout feature is missing or can be disabled should first
pay HUGE fines and then be barred from the jurisdiction market. With
respect to other road-hog conduct, in addition to intoxication or
attention-diverting use of lethal-technology while driving,
brake-checking and tailgating should also be hanging crimes. Any
irresponsible vehicle handling should in fact be punished exactly as it
would be in the case of irresponsible weapons handling (which ALSO needs
to be beefed up).

bad sector wrote:
> On 11/29/24 12:24, John Smyth wrote:
>> 'The Deadliest Car Brand in America Is …
>> Will you be surprised? Here’s a hint: It’s an American automaker.'
>>
>> <https://www.motortrend.com/news/deadliest-car-brand-in-america/>
>>
>> 'iSeeCars has an interesting analysis of vehicle fatality rates (using
>> the NHTSA Fatality Analysis Reporting System and then adjusted by miles
>> traveled using iSeeCar’s own data) that reaches some fascinating (and,
>> admittedly, grisly) conclusions. On one hand, the list confirms some
>> basic vehicle safety concepts, like that the physics of a multi-vehicle
>> crash favor the larger vehicles, and so forth. Small vehicles (physics),
>> sports cars (risk-taking behavior), and some mainstream vehicles
>> (perhaps just the sheer amount of them on the road?) tend to have the
>> highest fatality rates. On the other hand, the brand with the highest
>> number of fatal crashes per mile might surprise you.'
>>
>> 't’s an American automaker, a relative newcomer, exclusively builds EVs,
>> and has arguably the most controversial (and richest) CEO in vehicular
>> history. Yes, it’s Tesla. iSeeCars pegs the Tesla fatality rate at 5.6
>> accidents per billion vehicle miles traveled. This does not factor in
>> any information about non-fatal crashes; it only includes FARS data in
>> which at least one occupant died in the crash.'
>
> “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without
> being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to
> arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving,”
>
> With over a million accident free miles I agree with the above, so that
> tells me that Tesla drivers have their mind elsewhere ...or nowhere, not
> having one in the first place.

Those stats reflect fatalities as a result
of the accident, does not appear to state
causes. The Tesla owner may have been hit
by another vehicle of some kind (that's
probably a small percentage though).

One thing I'm curious about is some reports
of people being trapped inside. There does
seem to be a manual door release but it is
not well known!

On 11/30/24 00:43, Gronk wrote:
> bad sector wrote:
>> On 11/29/24 12:24, John Smyth wrote:
>>> 'The Deadliest Car Brand in America Is …
>>> Will you be surprised? Here’s a hint: It’s an American automaker.'
>>>
>>> <https://www.motortrend.com/news/deadliest-car-brand-in-america/>
>>>
>>> 'iSeeCars has an interesting analysis of vehicle fatality rates (using
>>> the NHTSA Fatality Analysis Reporting System and then adjusted by miles
>>> traveled using iSeeCar’s own data) that reaches some fascinating (and,
>>> admittedly, grisly) conclusions. On one hand, the list confirms some
>>> basic vehicle safety concepts, like that the physics of a multi-vehicle
>>> crash favor the larger vehicles, and so forth. Small vehicles (physics),
>>> sports cars (risk-taking behavior), and some mainstream vehicles
>>> (perhaps just the sheer amount of them on the road?) tend to have the
>>> highest fatality rates. On the other hand, the brand with the highest
>>> number of fatal crashes per mile might surprise you.'
>>>
>>> 't’s an American automaker, a relative newcomer, exclusively builds EVs,
>>> and has arguably the most controversial (and richest) CEO in vehicular
>>> history. Yes, it’s Tesla. iSeeCars pegs the Tesla fatality rate at 5.6
>>> accidents per billion vehicle miles traveled. This does not factor in
>>> any information about non-fatal crashes; it only includes FARS data in
>>> which at least one occupant died in the crash.'
>>
>> “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed,
>> without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most
>> likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving,”
>>
>> With over a million accident free miles I agree with the above, so
>> that tells me that Tesla drivers have their mind elsewhere ...or
>> nowhere, not having one in the first place.
>
> Those stats reflect fatalities as a result
> of the accident, does not appear to state
> causes. The Tesla owner may have been hit
> by another vehicle of some kind (that's
> probably a small percentage though).
>
> One thing I'm curious about is some reports
> of people being trapped inside. There does
> seem to be a manual door release but it is
> not well known!

The only way out is rolled down windows but good luck with that when
all switches and relays are shorting out not to mention your half-ton
battery initiating its spontaneous and inextinguishable underwater
self-destruct inferno. The answer is requiring builders to keep the
entire mechanical window opening mechanism intact and serviceable on
every window and making sure that *multiple* implosion panels
immediately assure the flooding of the cabin while also motoring the
windows down via fail-safe spring-motors. Automatic seat belt release
and air-bag retraction would also be musts because the occupant in such
a vehicle might just have experienced a violent collision before
entering the water.