MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) � A social media ban for children under 16
passed the Australian Parliament on Friday in a world-first law.

The law will make platforms including TikTok, Facebook, Snapchat, Reddit,
X and Instagram liable for fines of up to 50 million Australian dollars
($33 million) for systemic failures to prevent children younger than 16
from holding accounts.

The Senate passed the bill on Thursday 34 votes to 19. The House of
Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved the legislation by
102 votes to 13.

The House on Friday endorsed opposition amendments made in the Senate,
making the bill law.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the law supported parents concerned
by online harms to their children.

�Platforms now have a social responsibility to ensure the safety of our
kids is a priority for them,� Albanese told reporters.

The platforms have one year to work out how they could implement the ban
before penalties are enforced.

Meta Platforms, which owns Facebook and Instagram, said the legislation
had been �rushed.�

Digital Industry Group Inc., an advocate for the platforms in Australia,
said questions remain about the law�s impact on children, its technical
foundations and scope.

�The social media ban legislation has been released and passed within a
week and, as a result, no one can confidently explain how it will work in
practice � the community and platforms are in the dark about what exactly
is required of them,� DIGI managing director Sunita Bose said.

The amendments passed on Friday bolster privacy protections. Platforms
would not be allowed to compel users to provide government-issued identity
documents including passports or driver�s licenses, nor could they demand
digital identification through a government system.

Critics of the legislation fear that banning young children from social
media will impact the privacy of all users who must establish they are
older than 16.

While the major parties support the ban, many child welfare and mental
health advocates are concerned about unintended consequences.

Sen. David Shoebridge, from the minority Greens party, said mental health
experts agreed that the ban could dangerously isolate many children who
used social media to find support.

�This policy will hurt vulnerable young people the most, especially in
regional communities and especially the LGBTQI community, by cutting them
off,� Shoebridge told the Senate.

Exemptions will apply for health and education services including YouTube,
Messenger Kids, WhatsApp, Kids Helpline and Google Classroom.

Opposition Sen. Maria Kovacic said the bill was not radical but necessary.
�The core focus of this legislation is simple: It demands that social
media companies take reasonable steps to identify and remove underage
users from their platforms,� Kovacic told the Senate.

�This is a responsibility these companies should have been fulfilling long
ago, but for too long they have shirked these responsibilities in favor of
profit,� she added.

Online safety campaigner Sonya Ryan, whose 15-year-old daughter Carly was
murdered by a 50-year-old pedophile who pretended to be a teenager online,
described the Senate vote as a �monumental moment in protecting our
children from horrendous harms online.�

�It�s too late for my daughter, Carly, and the many other children who
have suffered terribly and those who have lost their lives in Australia,
but let us stand together on their behalf and embrace this together,� she
said.

Wayne Holdsworth, whose teenage son Mac took his own life after falling
victim to an online sextortion scam, had advocated for the age restriction
and took pride in its passage.

�I have always been a proud Australian, but for me subsequent to today�s
Senate decision, I am bursting with pride,� Holdsworth said.

Christopher Stone, executive director of Suicide Prevention Australia, the
governing body for the suicide prevention sector, said the legislation
failed to consider positive aspects of social media in supporting young
people�s mental health and sense of connection.

�The government is running blindfolded into a brick wall by rushing this
legislation. Young Australians deserve evidence-based policies, not
decisions made in haste,� Stone said.

The platforms had complained that the law would be unworkable and had
urged the Senate to delay the vote until at least June 2025 when a
government-commissioned evaluation of age assurance technologies will
report on how young children could be excluded.

�Naturally, we respect the laws decided by the Australian Parliament,�
Facebook and Instagram owner Meta Platforms said. �However, we are
concerned about the process which rushed the legislation through while
failing to properly consider the evidence, what industry already does to
ensure age-appropriate experiences, and the voices of young people.�

Snapchat said it was also concerned by the law and would cooperate with
the government regulator, the eSafety Commissioner.

�While there are many unanswered questions about how this law will be
implemented in practice, we will engage closely with the Government and
the eSafety Commissioner during the 12-month implementation period to help
develop an approach that balances privacy, safety and practicality. As
always, Snap will comply with any applicable laws and regulations in
Australia,� Snapchat said in a statement.

Critics argue the government is attempting to convince parents it is
protecting their children ahead of a general election due by May. The
government hopes that voters will reward it for responding to parents�
concerns about their children�s addiction to social media. Some argue the
legislation could cause more harm than it prevents.

Criticisms include that the legislation was rushed through Parliament
without adequate scrutiny, is ineffective, poses privacy risks for all
users, and undermines the authority of parents to make decisions for their
children.

Opponents also argue the ban would isolate children, deprive them of the
positive aspects of social media, drive them to the dark web, discourage
children too young for social media to report harm, and reduce incentives
for platforms to improve online safety.

https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-
safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056

On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
<ban@killergames.too> wrote:

>https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-
>safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056
>
<https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056>
https://t.ly/wWP5k
The Senate passed the bill on Thursday 34 votes to 19 (53). The House
of Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved the
legislation by 102 votes to 13 (115).
There are 76 senators, 12 from each state and two each from the
Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory. Who is a
Member? The House of Representatives has 151 Members, each
representing one geographic area of Australia.

Most browsers have a browser VPN most kids know this easy to turn off
and on?

The parents need to work this out.
In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
magazines.

--
Petzl
2000 years ago Judas Iscariot got his 30 pieces of silver.

Anthony Albanese has just boasted that today, the Senate will pass
over 30 pieces of legislation.
Most of it bad, some bloody terrible.
No debate, no scrutiny, no democracy.
I can't wait 'til this man is the former Prime Minister.
Useless and embarrassing.

On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
<ban@killergames.too> wrote:

>MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — A social media ban for children under 16
>passed the Australian Parliament on Friday in a world-first law.
>
>The law will make platforms including TikTok, Facebook, Snapchat, Reddit,
>X and Instagram liable for fines of up to 50 million Australian dollars
>($33 million) for systemic failures to prevent children younger than 16
>from holding accounts.

Sadly, the pernicious infiltration of communists into newsgroups and
Usenet was overlooked.

x-no-archive: yes

On 11/29/2024 11:26 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
> <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>
>> MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — A social media ban for children under 16
>> passed the Australian Parliament on Friday in a world-first law.
>>
>> The law will make platforms including TikTok, Facebook, Snapchat, Reddit,
>> X and Instagram liable for fines of up to 50 million Australian dollars
>> ($33 million) for systemic failures to prevent children younger than 16
> >from holding accounts.
>
> Sadly, the pernicious infiltration of communists into newsgroups and
> Usenet was overlooked.

Indeed.  :-/

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 06:26:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
> <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>
>> https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-
>> safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056
>>
> <https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056>
> https://t.ly/wWP5k
> The Senate passed the bill on Thursday 34 votes to 19 (53). The House
> of Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved the
> legislation by 102 votes to 13 (115).
> There are 76 senators, 12 from each state and two each from the
> Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory. Who is a
> Member? The House of Representatives has 151 Members, each
> representing one geographic area of Australia.
>
> Most browsers have a browser VPN most kids know this easy to turn off
> and on?

They don't even need a vpn, just use their parent's social media account.

Typical stupid pollys, never have a fucking clue.

> The parents need to work this out.
> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
> magazines.

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:11:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 06:26:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
>> <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>>
>>> https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-
>>> safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056
>>>
>> <https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056>
>> https://t.ly/wWP5k
>> The Senate passed the bill on Thursday 34 votes to 19 (53). The House
>> of Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved the
>> legislation by 102 votes to 13 (115).
>> There are 76 senators, 12 from each state and two each from the
>> Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory. Who is a
>> Member? The House of Representatives has 151 Members, each
>> representing one geographic area of Australia.
>>
>> Most browsers have a browser VPN most kids know this easy to turn off
>> and on?
>
>They don't even need a vpn, just use their parent's social media account.
>
>Typical stupid pollys, never have a fucking clue.
>
Correct
I would say if any social media wants to stay in Australia all users
of social media will have to show ID
or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>
>> The parents need to work this out.
>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>> magazines.

On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
<ban@killergames.too> wrote:

>MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — A social media ban for children under 16
>passed the Australian Parliament on Friday in a world-first law.
>
>The law will make platforms including TikTok, Facebook, Snapchat, Reddit,
>X and Instagram liable for fines of up to 50 million Australian dollars
>($33 million) for systemic failures to prevent children younger than 16
>from holding accounts.
>
>The Senate passed the bill on Thursday 34 votes to 19. The House of
>Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved the legislation by
>102 votes to 13.
>

Guess who's not contributing to election campaigns?

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 10:01:45 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:11:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 06:26:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
>>> <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-
>>>> safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056
>>>>
>>> <https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056>
>>> https://t.ly/wWP5k
>>> The Senate passed the bill on Thursday 34 votes to 19 (53). The House
>>> of Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved the
>>> legislation by 102 votes to 13 (115).
>>> There are 76 senators, 12 from each state and two each from the
>>> Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory. Who is a
>>> Member? The House of Representatives has 151 Members, each
>>> representing one geographic area of Australia.
>>>
>>> Most browsers have a browser VPN most kids know this easy to turn off
>>> and on?
>>
>> They don't even need a vpn, just use their parent's social media
>> account.
>>
>> Typical stupid pollys, never have a fucking clue.

> Correct

> I would say if any social media wants to stay in Australia all users
> of social media will have to show ID

Just not feasible to show ID every time you use a particular social media
account

> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's

Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn

>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>> magazines.

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 10:34:53 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:08 +0100 (CET), About time
><ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>
>>MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — A social media ban for children under 16
>>passed the Australian Parliament on Friday in a world-first law.
>>
>>The law will make platforms including TikTok, Facebook, Snapchat, Reddit,
>>X and Instagram liable for fines of up to 50 million Australian dollars
>>($33 million) for systemic failures to prevent children younger than 16
>>from holding accounts.
>>
>>The Senate passed the bill on Thursday 34 votes to 19. The House of
>>Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved the legislation by
>>102 votes to 13.
>>
>Guess who's not contributing to election campaigns?
>
They will get "De-Banked" by Ordog type of people
https://x.com/i/status/1862633099906937251
https://t.ly/gwfyy
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money.

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher

>Just not feasible to show ID every time you use a particular social media
>account

Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
points" system. And then all those credit cards.
Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
to Big Brother than to avoid him!
Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
at it.
The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.

>
>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>
>Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>
>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>> magazines.

It helped to have a much older brother.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>> media account

> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
> to Big Brother than to avoid him!

All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
it is the social media account holder who is using
a particular social media account at a particular
time when its trivial to share passwords etc.

Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
fake that too.

> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
> at it.

Ditto

> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.

Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media

>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's

>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn

>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>> magazines.

> It helped to have a much older brother.

Just as true of the stupid social media ban

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>> media account
>
>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>
> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
> it is the social media account holder who is using
> a particular social media account at a particular
> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>
> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
> fake that too.
>
>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>> at it.
>
> Ditto
>
>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>
> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>
>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>
>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>
>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>> magazines.
>
>> It helped to have a much older brother.

So you are just another mistake.

> Just as true of the stupid social media ban

On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:26:50 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

>
>>Just not feasible to show ID every time you use a particular social media
>>account
>
>Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>at it.
>The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>
"Our" media is now finding their massive concentrated PSYOP is meeting
resistance because of social media ,
Climate Change, Covid, etc
Which "our" governments want banned, Australian Communist prime
minister Anthony Albanese has rammed through that Children under 16
are not allowed on it
(we are worried about your children),
any Social Media that cannot enforce this are liable for a AU$30
million fine (per child?).
A lot "our" media won't report things that need knowing and only found
out about through social media!
Example cashless means one can be de-banked without any one finding
out about it!
Example you will only see this on Social media
https://x.com/i/status/1862633099906937251
>>
>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>
>>Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>
>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>> magazines.
>
>It helped to have a much older brother.
>
Or a mate who had a much older brother
__
Petzl
Anthony Albanese at age of 18 got a job for nine months in
commonwealth bank
<https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vern-hughes-92341119_it-is-not-true-that-anthony-albanese-has-activity-7068765502021517312-jwAC>
https://t.ly/5jJjE
It is not true that Anthony Albanese has never held a real job. He
worked in the Commonwealth Bank for 9 months when he was 18.

Albo's replacement at Commonwealth Bank
https://youtu.be/hWemeervqhA?si=-M7SWX55dyWD_ked
just push"F5" to remove advert

On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:48:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>> media account
>>
>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>
>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>> a particular social media account at a particular
>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>
>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>> fake that too.
>>
>>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>>> at it.
>>
>> Ditto
>>
>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>
>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>
>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>
>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>
>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>> magazines.
>>
>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>
>So you are just another mistake.
>
Or the "much older brother"
>
>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
--
Petzl
Rod Speed help 24/7
https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> "Our" media is now finding their massive concentrated PSYOP

You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> is meeting resistance because of social media ,
> Climate Change, Covid, etc
> Which "our" governments want banned,

You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Australian Communist prime minister Anthony Albanese

You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> has rammed through that Children under 16
> are not allowed on it
> (we are worried about your children),
> any Social Media that cannot enforce this are liable for a AU$30
> million fine (per child?).

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...

> A lot "our" media won't report things that need knowing and only found
> out about through social media!

You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Example cashless means one can be de-banked without any one finding
> out about it!

You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Example you will only see this on Social media
> https://x.com/i/status/1862633099906937251

Just because some nut case claims something...

>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>>
>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>>
>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>> magazines.
>>
>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>
> Or a mate who had a much older brother

On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 11:29:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> "Our" media is now finding their massive concentrated PSYOP
>
>You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
>> is meeting resistance because of social media ,
>> Climate Change, Covid, etc
>> Which "our" governments want banned,
>
>You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
A fossil of a Fairy was found in Sussex UK
https://ibb.co/MZyKRzz
..
>> Australian Communist prime minister Anthony Albanese
>
>You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
Ans you are off with Ördög
>
>> has rammed through that Children under 16
>> are not allowed on it
>> (we are worried about your children),
>> any Social Media that cannot enforce this are liable for a AU$30
>> million fine (per child?).
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...
>
So saying nothing Rod
..
>> A lot "our" media won't report things that need knowing and only found
>> out about through social media!
>
>You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
So saying nothing Rod
>
>> Example cashless means one can be de-banked without any one finding
>> out about it!
>
>You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
So saying nothing Rod
>
>> Example you will only see this on Social media
>> https://x.com/i/status/1862633099906937251
>
>Just because some nut case claims something...
>
So saying nothing Rod
>
>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>>>
>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>>>
>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>> magazines.
>>>
>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>>
>> Or a mate who had a much older brother
--
Petzl
Rod Speed help 24/7
https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed

In <op.2x2rnalgbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed wrote:
>
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> "Our" media is now finding their massive concentrated PSYOP
>
> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

He sounds on the money to me.

>> is meeting resistance because of social media ,
>> Climate Change, Covid, etc
>> Which "our" governments want banned,
>
> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

He sounds perfectly lucid to me.

>> Australian Communist prime minister Anthony Albanese
>
> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

Albanese is a communist. Australia needs a Trump. Who will step forward?

>> has rammed through that Children under 16
>> are not allowed on it
>> (we are worried about your children),
>> any Social Media that cannot enforce this are liable for a AU$30
>> million fine (per child?).
>
> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...

Anybody who watches Yes, Prime Minister is okay.

>> A lot "our" media won't report things that need knowing and only found
>> out about through social media!
>
> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

You need a screwdriver for your head.

>> Example cashless means one can be de-banked without any one finding
>> out about it!
>
> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

You never got out of COVID confinement.

>> Example you will only see this on Social media
>> https://x.com/i/status/1862633099906937251
>
> Just because some nut case claims something...

Takes one to know one.

>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>>>
>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>>>
>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>> magazines.
>>>
>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>>
>> Or a mate who had a much older brother

Trump! <the.world.needs.trump@goatmail.uk> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> "Our" media is now finding their massive concentrated PSYOP

>> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> He sounds on the money to me.

More fool you given one of or main medias keeps denying climat change

>>> is meeting resistance because of social media ,
>>> Climate Change, Covid, etc
>>> Which "our" governments want banned,

>> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> He sounds perfectly lucid to me.

Then you need a hearing aid.

>>> Australian Communist prime minister Anthony Albanese

>> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Albanese is a communist.

You wouldnt know what a communist was if one bit you on your lard arse.

> Australia needs a Trump.

We aren't that stupid

> Who will step forward?

No one is that stupid.

>>> has rammed through that Children under 16
>>> are not allowed on it
>>> (we are worried about your children),
>>> any Social Media that cannot enforce this are liable for a AU$30
>>> million fine (per child?).

>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...

> Anybody who watches Yes, Prime Minister is okay.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...

>>> A lot "our" media won't report things that need knowing and only found
>>> out about through social media!

>> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> You need a screwdriver for your head.

You need a bullet in the back of your neck

>>> Example cashless means one can be de-banked without any one finding
>>> out about it!

>> You are completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> You never got out of COVID confinement.

I was never ever in COVID confinement.

>>> Example you will only see this on Social media
>>> https://x.com/i/status/1862633099906937251

>> Just because some nut case claims something...

> Takes one to know one.

Any 3 year old could leave that for dead

Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone is
actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.

Dizum MAGAt pretends to be the limpdick wonder Orange Emperor himself

/snip loads of crap/
> Albanese is a communist. Australia needs a Trump. Who will step forward?

Eat shit know nothing subhumnan MAGAt!

> Anybody who watches Yes, Prime Minister is okay.

YAY. Anybody who refuses to recognise the difference between fan-fiction
comedy and reality truly qualifies these days as a MAGAt!!!

> You need a screwdriver for your head.

As opposed to this septic subhuman who is immune to such attacks being
the living proof for a life beyond brain-death!

> You never got out of COVID confinement.

So it must have been COVID that made this devolved troll completely
brain dead!

/rest of insanity was removed by popular demand/

This septic troll has also earned the immense privilege of joining its
fellow septic malicious wanker cohort in my bottomless killfile!

*P* *L* *O* *N* *K*

*Enjoy*

:-P :-P :-P

About time <ban@killergames.too> wrote:

>Subject: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with
> world-first law

It's a poorly conceived law.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
> About time <ban@killergames.too> wrote:

>> Subject: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with
>> world-first law
> It's a poorly conceived law.

And can't possibly work given that its so trivial to use a
vpn or an older sibling's or parent's social media account.

On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:45:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>> media account
>
>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>
>All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>it is the social media account holder who is using
>a particular social media account at a particular
>time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>
>Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>fake that too.
>
>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>> at it.
>
>Ditto
>
>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>
>Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>
>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>
>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>
>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>> magazines.
>
>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>
>Just as true of the stupid social media ban

But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done? A short drive around
town will reveal almost all pedestrians have their mobile gadgets
glued to their faces. Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable only
when an ID card is inserted?

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>> media account
>>
>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>
>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>> a particular social media account at a particular
>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>
>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>> fake that too.
>>
>>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>>> at it.
>>
>> Ditto
>>
>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>
>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>
>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>
>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>
>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>> magazines.
>>
>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>
>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban

> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?

Nope, kids have always bullied each other.

Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
he could get home before the thugs got out of school.

> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrianshave their
> mobile gadgets glued to their faces.

Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
else when they are on their phones, not using
social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
young on their phones when walking around either.

> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operableonly when an ID card is inserted?

Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.

On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 14:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>> About time <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>
>>> Subject: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with
>>> world-first law
>> It's a poorly conceived law.
>
>And can't possibly work given that its so trivial to use a
>vpn or an older sibling's or parent's social media account.
>
Everyone who uses social media will have to validate ID with a Federal
Government "Digital ID"
That was quick (what can go wrong)????
Albanese is behind this
The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)
Digital ID legislation:
What's changing from 1 December 2024 Eligibility
You must be 15 years or over to create a Digital ID using the
Australian Government's ID provider myID.

Will that shut you up Rod?
--
Petzl
Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken
s a lesson to his followers.
He then set the chicken on the floor a short distance away.
The chicken was bloodied and suffering immensely, yet,
when Stalin began to toss some bits of wheat toward the
chicken it followed him around.
He said to his followers This is how easy it is to govern
stupid people, (like Ordog)

On 12/1/2024 8:07 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:45:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>> media account
>>
>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>
>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>> a particular social media account at a particular
>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>
>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>> fake that too.
>>
>>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>>> at it.
>>
>> Ditto
>>
>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>
>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>
>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>
>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>
>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>> magazines.
>>
>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>
>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>
> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done? A short drive around
> town will reveal almost all pedestrians have their mobile gadgets
> glued to their faces. Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable only
> when an ID card is inserted?

That's a good idea. Optionally the phones could also be "age branded"
and limited to just talk and texting.

If they need entertainment, give them a book to read.