On 5/26/2024 12:46 PM, Relf wrote:

> Joe Biden rocks DFS's world

Nothing but a lie.

Joel wrote:
> % <percent@yohooo.not> wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catholic teaching is [...]
>>>
>>> ... nonsensical, heretical, Eurocentric, retarded BULLSHIT. Grow a
>>> fuckin' brain and maybe a dick, white boy.
>>>
>> https://postimg.cc/2bZHB3Tg
>
> I'm a black supremacist
>
>
riiiiiiiight

https://postimg.cc/9RbpvSXF <- ginger joel

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/26/2024 12:46 PM, Relf wrote:
>
>> Joe Biden rocks DFS's world
>
>Nothing but a lie.

People who make it about Biden are missing the point. Biden is the
guy who isn't DJT. That is by itself reason to vote for him. You
don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to like almost anything
he's done. He's the guy who has a chance to keep Trump the fuck out
of the Oval.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-05-27 8:59 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-26 3:33 p.m., Relf wrote:
>>> DistroMan: [Catholic] Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> Spiritual Terrorism: BIDEN has been a population alarmist since 1970.
>>>
>>>> Asking for a fix to gmime so I can crosspost in
>>>> the thread "Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism" in
>>>> alt.atheism and a half-dozen other newsgroups.
>>>
>>> Down_Score Unicode_Crap found in a header.
>>
>> I should mention that my previous home was built on what used to be
>> woods in the Northeastern part of Montreal's North Shore. The only
>> reason I knew it is because my brother eventually introduced me to a
>> woman who grew up there and let us know that, as well as the fact that
>> people routinely committed suicide in that area. That last part would
>> explain why my wife had visions of ghosts in the middle of the night,
>> why a part of the inside near our patio was always cold, and why I
>> myself was attacked during the night by a spirit. Our house was
>> apparently haunted, the cold spot was a portal, and we were told that we
>> would never be able to have children if we remained... which was
>> confirmed by the fact that my wife only got pregnant when we left. A
>> "ghost whisperer" even came to our home at one point and told us that if
>> we didn't leave by the end of 2017, something bad would happen (which
>> did, 2018 was the worst year of my life).
>
> I had similar experiences in a home in Ventura, CA (right off Ventura
> Avenue). Not ghosts in this case, demon(s). Many years ago now.

I figured that others would have their own experiences. We can discount
a lot as coincidence, but the fact that both my wife and I got attacked
in the same kind of way by spirits isn't a coincidence to me.

>> Why am I mentioning this? Because those who had committed suicide had
>> clearly remained, damned to roam the Earth forever, unseen and unfelt by
>> most, unable to connect with their loved ones in Heaven. Most of you
>> will laugh at what I just wrote, but I truly don't care. For me, my
>> entire experience, as well as the fact that God heard me and gave me
>> what I needed to survive during that worst year, are confirmation of my
>> faith. I will never tolerate garbage like Joel Crump claiming to be
>> Jesus. I will never tolerate abortion, euthanasia, suicide or mass
>> genocide like what our benevolent leaders attempted. My faith has only
>> become stronger with time and I say again: those who commit suicide are
>> condemned to Hell, in whatever form it takes.
>
> I don't really understand how ghosts fit into the scheme of things. I'm not
> denying that they exist, but I (personally) think that a lot of "ghosts" are
> actually evil spirits.

Or they are the spirits of desperate people which turned evil as a
result of being ignored by God in the afterlife or their actions
(including suicide) in life.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-27 9:12 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-27 8:08 a.m., % wrote:
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Catholic teaching is [...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... nonsensical, heretical, Eurocentric, retarded BULLSHIT.  Grow a
>>>> fuckin' brain and maybe a dick, white boy.
>>>>
>>> >
>>> https://postimg.cc/2bZHB3Tg
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Joel sure is making a case for Catholicism by showing me what the
>> alternative is. A life of drugs, looking like a walking corpse and sex
>> with men.
>
> I sometimes watch the "exploring this abandoned mansion" videos on YouTube.
> This particular one (below) made me feel kind of ill. A couple (both men)
> lived in it, and you can see just by all the half done projects that they
> were restless and not at peace. It's kind of sad. (I guess the one man, age
> 92 now, just left everything a couple years after he buried his "partner" in
> the back yard.) Apparently he's still alive and living in Burma. I wonder
> how he feels about his house being tramped through by people who post the
> videos on YouTube.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xikRbTEYisQ

To be fair, daily life in the place didn't seem all too abnormal.
However, when that "ghost whisperer" or whatever came into our house,
she pointed out that living there would mean that we would never
advance. For example, whenever we started saving money, something would
happen which would cost us a lot. Things changed radically the moment we
left that place behind. Luckily, it wasn't a hard house to sell. It took
us a week and I've been told that it has a lot to do with these kinds of
houses pulling victims in. When we bought it, we too were pulled in in a
way.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/27/2024 9:50 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 5/26/2024 12:46 PM, Relf wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Biden rocks DFS's world
>>
>> Nothing but a lie.
>
>
> People who make it about Biden are missing the point. Biden is the
> guy who isn't DJT. That is by itself reason to vote for him. You
> don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to like almost anything
> he's done. He's the guy who has a chance to keep Trump the fuck out
> of the Oval.

I never have and never will vote for a Democrat. Nor will I vote for
that treasonous scumbag Trump, who belongs in jail for the rest of his life.

I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.

On May 27, 2024 at 9:50:30 AM EDT, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> People who make it about Biden are missing the point. Biden is the
> guy who isn't DJT. That is by itself reason to vote for him. You
> don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to like almost anything
> he's done. He's the guy who has a chance to keep Trump the fuck out
> of the Oval.

Which is the very reason Trump was elected in 2016. He was not Hilary Clinton.
People wanted to keep the Clintons the fuck out of the Oval.

And today we never hear from Hilary. I am forever thankful for this.

On 2024-05-27 11:03 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 5/27/2024 9:50 AM, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/26/2024 12:46 PM, Relf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe Biden rocks DFS's world
>>>
>>> Nothing but a lie.
>>
>>
>> People who make it about Biden are missing the point.  Biden is the
>> guy who isn't DJT.  That is by itself reason to vote for him.  You
>> don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to like almost anything
>> he's done.  He's the guy who has a chance to keep Trump the fuck out
>> of the Oval.
>
>
> I never have and never will vote for a Democrat.  Nor will I vote for
> that treasonous scumbag Trump, who belongs in jail for the rest of his
> life.
>
> I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.

You can always vote for the Stallman-endorsed Jill Stein. I'm sure she
has a policy endorsing eating things off your feet.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-27 11:03 a.m., Tyrone wrote:
> On May 27, 2024 at 9:50:30 AM EDT, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> People who make it about Biden are missing the point. Biden is the
>> guy who isn't DJT. That is by itself reason to vote for him. You
>> don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to like almost anything
>> he's done. He's the guy who has a chance to keep Trump the fuck out
>> of the Oval.
>
> Which is the very reason Trump was elected in 2016. He was not Hilary Clinton.
> People wanted to keep the Clintons the fuck out of the Oval.
>
> And today we never hear from Hilary. I am forever thankful for this.

Had Hillary managed to get into the Oval Office, we'd be fighting off
Rad Roaches and drinking Nuka Cola by now.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

DFS: I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.

You trash your vote, I don't vote, Same thing.

On 5/27/2024 11:40 AM, Relf wrote:

> DFS: I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.
>
> You trash your vote, I don't vote, Same thing.

No. My vote counts, but you don't cast one.

Shame. Get out of bed and go vote.

On 5/27/2024 6:54 AM, % wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>> % <percent@yohooo.not> wrote:
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Catholic teaching is [...]
>>>>
>>>> ... nonsensical, heretical, Eurocentric, retarded BULLSHIT.  Grow a
>>>> fuckin' brain and maybe a dick, white boy.
>>>>
>>> https://postimg.cc/2bZHB3Tg
>>
>> I'm a black supremacist
> >
> >
> riiiiiiiight
>
> https://postimg.cc/9RbpvSXF <- ginger joel

He looks like a Jewish Hitler Youth recruit.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/27/2024 9:50 AM, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/26/2024 12:46 PM, Relf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe Biden rocks DFS's world
>>>
>>> Nothing but a lie.
>>
>> People who make it about Biden are missing the point. Biden is the
>> guy who isn't DJT. That is by itself reason to vote for him. You
>> don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to like almost anything
>> he's done. He's the guy who has a chance to keep Trump the fuck out
>> of the Oval.
>
>I never have and never will vote for a Democrat. Nor will I vote for
>that treasonous scumbag Trump, who belongs in jail for the rest of his life.
>
>I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.

So even in 2016 you were against him, interesting. I wasn't for him,
to be sure, but I had no idea he was Hitler, yet. Biden had taken
over before that dawned on me.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:

>> People who make it about Biden are missing the point. Biden is the
>> guy who isn't DJT. That is by itself reason to vote for him. You
>> don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to like almost anything
>> he's done. He's the guy who has a chance to keep Trump the fuck out
>> of the Oval.
>
>Which is the very reason Trump was elected in 2016. He was not Hilary Clinton.
> People wanted to keep the Clintons the fuck out of the Oval.
>
>And today we never hear from Hilary. I am forever thankful for this.

That makes you sound, frankly, like part of the botnet.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

> DumFSck: I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.

Your "Grand Dragon" can't get on the ballot, huh?

--
"ABC News last night led with stories about the black morons. Now
that they've dispersed, New Orleans is safe (only 1 murder in 3
months), but the cities that took their stinking, thieving, lazy,
criminal asses in are experiencing crime waves. It was truly
disturbing to see the fat she-beasts with 6 kids living in a nice
FEMA-paid-for hotel (that they're about to be evicted from - finally!)
talking about 'dey needs a place to stay wif dere chirren'"
- DumFSck

Karl Hoffstetler <khoff@columbia.edu> wrote:

>He looks like a Jewish Hitler Youth recruit.

You sound like a bitch ass.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> Karl Hoffstetler <khoff@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>> He looks like a Jewish Hitler Youth recruit.
>
>
> You sound like a bitch ass.
>
>
https://postimg.cc/TKQ1gZxf

On 2024-05-27 3:30 p.m., chrisv wrote:
>> DumFSck: I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.
>
> Your "Grand Dragon" can't get on the ballot, huh?

ROFL!

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/27/2024 1:36 PM, % wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>> Karl Hoffstetler <khoff@columbia.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> He looks like a Jewish Hitler Youth recruit.
>>
>>
>> You sound like a bitch ass.
>>
> >
> https://postimg.cc/TKQ1gZxf

He looks like a Jewish Hitler Youth tranny recruit in that one.

https://scontent.flhr4-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/443843342_10162303282707281_363293924666382295_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=LU5sKRfN1J4Q7kNvgFFErpx&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr4-4.fna&oh=00_AYBbe4BXVxP0G48crR_2jOx-x5_8ephkoAPi7MlDT1rx1A&oe=665ACE12

Karl Hoffstetler <khoff@columbia.edu> wrote:

>He looks like a Jewish Hitler Youth tranny recruit in that one.

But I could kick your ass with one arm tied behind my back.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>On 2024-05-27 3:30 p.m., chrisv wrote:
>
>>> DumFSck: I'll have to write in my vote, for the 3rd consecutive time.
>>
>> Your "Grand Dragon" can't get on the ballot, huh?
>
>ROFL!

You're one to talk, Catholic phobe moron. At least DFS has a
semblance of normalcy, you're the biggest dupe ever.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 5/26/24 11:13 AM, Relf wrote:
> DFS:
>> covid vaccine IDIOTS claim it was "the jab".
>>
>> And there are a lot of vaccine idiots around, including several on this
>> newsgroup. I see a lot of them in comment sections all across the
>> Internet. All of them are very willfully ignorant.
>
> Every day, the "IDIOT" epitaph becomes more apropos of you, DFS.
>
> Only the FDA can provide VACCINE SAFETY DATA & they HIDE it;

Just what is the FDA allegedly "hiding", Relf?

Be specific.

And also be specific in providing documentation that shows that this was
a change done just for CoVid which differs from the past practice of
protecting the privacy of research volunteers, because "hiding" some
information has been standard practice for decades.

For example, do not claim that they're keeping the identity of each
volunteer participant confidential, because that's been standard
practice since the 1970s.

The research data is provided in what's known as "de-identified".

But even this has changed within the past decade (before 2019), because
its been found that "big data" data mining is able to "Re-Identify" if
individual datapoints are provided. That's why data is now published in
aggregate, not individualized but anonymous (e.g. de-identified).

IIRC, the change was prompted by the Governor of Massachusetts who IIRC
made some crass comment about how current health data protections were
already overkill. Some researchers proved him wrong by Re-Identifying
him in the health records to show that said medical records were in
fact, not adequately protected. Here's the cite:

"The 'Re-Identification' of Governor William Weld's Medical Information:
A Critical Re-Examination of Health Data Identification Risks and
Privacy Protections, Then and Now"
(July 2012)

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2076397

FYI, the general "best practices" is to hold the PII/PHI in confidence
for 75 years before it is released to the public. This is because most
consents are from adults (age 18+), since 18+75 = 93 years, as ~95%
dying by age 95.

For some populations (eg, children) longer durations can get used;
there's also been discussions to increase 75 years to a higher value
because of trends of improving longevity (as per Actuarial tables).

-hh

On 2024-05-27 7:09 p.m., -hh wrote:
> On 5/26/24 11:13 AM, Relf wrote:
>> DFS:
>>> covid vaccine IDIOTS claim it was "the jab".
>>>
>>> And there are a lot of vaccine idiots around, including several on this
>>> newsgroup.  I see a lot of them in comment sections all across the
>>> Internet.  All of them are very willfully ignorant.
>>
>> Every day, the "IDIOT" epitaph becomes more apropos of you, DFS.
>>
>> Only the FDA can provide VACCINE SAFETY DATA & they HIDE it;
>
>
> Just what is the FDA allegedly "hiding", Relf?
>
> Be specific.
>
> And also be specific in providing documentation that shows that this was
> a change done just for CoVid which differs from the past practice of
> protecting the privacy of research volunteers, because "hiding" some
> information has been standard practice for decades.
>
> For example, do not claim that they're keeping the identity of each
> volunteer participant confidential, because that's been standard
> practice since the 1970s.
>
> The research data is provided in what's known as "de-identified".
>
> But even this has changed within the past decade (before 2019), because
> its been found that "big data" data mining is able to "Re-Identify" if
> individual datapoints are provided.  That's why data is now published in
> aggregate, not individualized but anonymous (e.g. de-identified).
>
> IIRC, the change was prompted by the Governor of Massachusetts who IIRC
> made some crass comment about how current health data protections were
> already overkill.  Some researchers proved him wrong by Re-Identifying
> him in the health records to show that said medical records were in
> fact, not adequately protected.  Here's the cite:
>
> "The 'Re-Identification' of Governor William Weld's Medical Information:
> A Critical Re-Examination of Health Data Identification Risks and
> Privacy Protections, Then and Now"
> (July 2012)
>
> https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2076397
>
> FYI, the general "best practices" is to hold the PII/PHI in confidence
> for 75 years before it is released to the public.  This is because most
> consents are from adults (age 18+), since 18+75 = 93 years, as ~95%
> dying by age 95.
>
> For some populations (eg, children) longer durations can get used;
> there's also been discussions to increase 75 years to a higher value
> because of trends of improving longevity (as per Actuarial tables).

In other words, "don't believe your lying eyes and ears, folks."

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

You (Huntzinger) replied ( to me ):
> > Only the FDA can provide VACCINE SAFETY DATA & they HIDE it;
>
> Just what is the FDA allegedly "hiding", Relf ? Be specific.

Vaccine safety data, a.k.a. EMPIRICAL BAYESIAN DATA MINING ANALYSES

Senators are complaining that it is 100 % redacted, NOT just patient names.