https://x.com/lmrwanda/status/1861268448866861249

That's an interesting take on what 'ubuntu' really means. It makes sense
to me with the parallel to Indian tribal names. Names like 'Navajo' were
bestowed on the tribe by outsiders, enemies in many cases. The real name
is 'Dine' which has the context of 'We are the real people. The rest of
you are lower than the whale shit in the bottom of the ocean.'

The 'Chosen' have a much better PR campaign and have maintained the scam
for centuries.

On 11/26/2024 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote:
> https://x.com/lmrwanda/status/1861268448866861249
>
> That's an interesting take on what 'ubuntu' really means. It makes sense
> to me with the parallel to Indian tribal names. Names like 'Navajo' were
> bestowed on the tribe by outsiders, enemies in many cases. The real name
> is 'Dine' which has the context of 'We are the real people. The rest of
> you are lower than the whale shit in the bottom of the ocean.'
>
> The 'Chosen' have a much better PR campaign and have maintained the scam
> for centuries.

They weren't chosen for their athletic ability.

But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.

A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>On 11/26/2024 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote:
>
>> https://x.com/lmrwanda/status/1861268448866861249
>>
>> That's an interesting take on what 'ubuntu' really means. It makes sense
>> to me with the parallel to Indian tribal names. Names like 'Navajo' were
>> bestowed on the tribe by outsiders, enemies in many cases. The real name
>> is 'Dine' which has the context of 'We are the real people. The rest of
>> you are lower than the whale shit in the bottom of the ocean.'
>>
>> The 'Chosen' have a much better PR campaign and have maintained the scam
>> for centuries.
>
>They weren't chosen for their athletic ability.
>
>But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.
>
>A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.

Say what you will, but Stallman is like Torvalds, their two minds
conceived something brilliant, a genuine alternative to M$ and Apple.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 11/26/2024 12:30 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>> On 11/26/2024 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> https://x.com/lmrwanda/status/1861268448866861249
>>>
>>> That's an interesting take on what 'ubuntu' really means. It makes sense
>>> to me with the parallel to Indian tribal names. Names like 'Navajo' were
>>> bestowed on the tribe by outsiders, enemies in many cases. The real name
>>> is 'Dine' which has the context of 'We are the real people. The rest of
>>> you are lower than the whale shit in the bottom of the ocean.'
>>>
>>> The 'Chosen' have a much better PR campaign and have maintained the scam
>>> for centuries.
>>
>> They weren't chosen for their athletic ability.
>>
>> But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.
>>
>> A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.
>
>
> Say what you will, but Stallman is like Torvalds, their two minds
> conceived something brilliant, a genuine alternative to M$ and Apple.

Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
demanding everyone's code.

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>>> But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.
>>>
>>> A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.
>>
>> Say what you will, but Stallman is like Torvalds, their two minds
>> conceived something brilliant, a genuine alternative to M$ and Apple.
>
>Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
>demanding everyone's code.

What printer? Is this a real story, or just an expression of
Stallman's philosophy with a euphemism?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 14:33:39 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
> demanding everyone's code.

He took nobody else’s code. He wrote his own.

On 11/26/2024 3:53 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>
>>>> But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.
>>>>
>>>> A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.
>>>
>>> Say what you will, but Stallman is like Torvalds, their two minds
>>> conceived something brilliant, a genuine alternative to M$ and Apple.
>>
>> Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
>> demanding everyone's code.
>
>
> What printer? Is this a real story, or just an expression of
> Stallman's philosophy with a euphemism?

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>>> Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
>>> demanding everyone's code.
>>
>> What printer? Is this a real story, or just an expression of
>> Stallman's philosophy with a euphemism?
>
>https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware

Would you suggest we'd be better off relying on M$ et al, then? 'Cause
it'd be a tough sell, to me, when I see how they fucked over millions
of Win10 users, in their Win11 beta test, culminating in 20H2 and
later builds. In 2019, Win10 turned into bug-infested beta crud,
publicly forced on victims, and then in 2020-2021 it was simply a
preview of Win11, bloated to a point it ran like ass on older systems.

This is the bullshit you praise. And they're doing just as much evil
with Win11, which is what prompted me to stop using it. You are more
than welcome to the product key I gave you, for any useful purpose you
find for it, if you haven't yet. I don't want it back. I will not
disgrace my precious computer with M$, again.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

It is very easy to leave microsoft forever. But there are MS spies among
those who form how Linux should evolve.

I tried Mint for just a few days and now I look back and see Windows
never crossed my mind since. My Windows computers are gathering dust.
But with two exceptions. Both were very easily preventable. So there's
sabotage. A number of key people in Linux are bought. They work for MS.

On 11/26/2024 4:53 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>
>>>> Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
>>>> demanding everyone's code.
>>>
>>> What printer? Is this a real story, or just an expression of
>>> Stallman's philosophy with a euphemism?
>>
>> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware
>
>
> Would you suggest we'd be better off relying on M$ et al, then? 'Cause
> it'd be a tough sell, to me, when I see how they fucked over millions
> of Win10 users, in their Win11 beta test, culminating in 20H2 and
> later builds. In 2019, Win10 turned into bug-infested beta crud,
> publicly forced on victims, and then in 2020-2021 it was simply a
> preview of Win11, bloated to a point it ran like ass on older systems.

You're greatly exaggerating. Win11 runs as well as Win10 on older systems.

> This is the bullshit you praise.

Above GuhNoo crapware? Of course.

But, to be fair, I haven't installed a full distro to bare metal in a
long time - like 2+ years. So hopefully there are significant improvements.

> And they're doing just as much evil
> with Win11, which is what prompted me to stop using it.

What 'evil' are you referring to?

> You are more
> than welcome to the product key I gave you, for any useful purpose you
> find for it, if you haven't yet. I don't want it back.

If you change your mind, I haven't given it away.

> I will not disgrace my precious computer with M$, again.

You already did, Gollum. The minute you installed Wine you turned your
GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
fit for its purpose.

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>>>>> Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
>>>>> demanding everyone's code.
>>>>
>>>> What printer? Is this a real story, or just an expression of
>>>> Stallman's philosophy with a euphemism?
>>>
>>> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware
>>
>> Would you suggest we'd be better off relying on M$ et al, then? 'Cause
>> it'd be a tough sell, to me, when I see how they fucked over millions
>> of Win10 users, in their Win11 beta test, culminating in 20H2 and
>> later builds. In 2019, Win10 turned into bug-infested beta crud,
>> publicly forced on victims, and then in 2020-2021 it was simply a
>> preview of Win11, bloated to a point it ran like ass on older systems.
>
>You're greatly exaggerating. Win11 runs as well as Win10 on older systems.

Heh, "as well as" meaning not well at all, yeah, maybe. Current Win10
is just Win11 Light.

>> This is the bullshit you praise.
>
>Above GuhNoo crapware? Of course.
>
>But, to be fair, I haven't installed a full distro to bare metal in a
>long time - like 2+ years. So hopefully there are significant improvements.

There is some truth to Winblows software being supreme. I don't deny
it. But to require their OS, is a deal-breaker.

>> And they're doing just as much evil
>> with Win11, which is what prompted me to stop using it.
>
>What 'evil' are you referring to?

Bloat^N.

>> You are more
>> than welcome to the product key I gave you, for any useful purpose you
>> find for it, if you haven't yet. I don't want it back.
>
>If you change your mind, I haven't given it away.

Trust me, I wouldn't have given it to you in the first place, if there
were a chance I'd change my mind. I paid $200 for it. But that's a
write-off, now, because I have no purpose for it, not even a VM.
Please do use it.

>> I will not disgrace my precious computer with M$, again.
>
>You already did, Gollum. The minute you installed Wine you turned your
>GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
>fit for its purpose.

I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
a Linux machine.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>
>>>>>> <dumb foolish shit snipped>
>
>>You already did, Gollum. The minute you installed Wine you turned your
>>GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
>>fit for its purpose.
>
> I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
> a Linux machine.

DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.

--
His mind intentionally left blank.

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>
>>>The minute you installed Wine you turned your
>>>GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
>>>fit for its purpose.
>>
>> I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
>> a Linux machine.
>
>DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.

Yeah, Wine is not actual Winblows, and he knows it. He plays dumb,
which is kind of funny given the stereotype of the AOL-connected
Winblows fanboy, he isn't really such but he plays as if he is, sort
of.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:34:16 -0500, Joel wrote:

> Yeah, Wine is not actual Winblows, and he knows it. He plays dumb,
> which is kind of funny given the stereotype of the AOL-connected
> Winblows fanboy, he isn't really such but he plays as if he is, sort of.

Is Wine standalone? I tried it a long time ago and I thought you had to
provide dlls from a Windows box. I was trying to use TEFview, a player for
TableEdit files. I don't think Wine could do MIDI at the time so it didn't
work.

On 11/27/2024 12:06 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> <dumb foolish shit snipped>
>>
>>> You already did, Gollum. The minute you installed Wine you turned your
>>> GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
>>> fit for its purpose.
>>
>> I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
>> a Linux machine.
>
> DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.

Those wacky folks at GuhNoo.org consider applications and games to be
part of the operating system.

"GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

https://www.gnu.org/home.en.html#More-GNU

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> Yeah, Wine is not actual Winblows, and he knows it. He plays dumb,
>> which is kind of funny given the stereotype of the AOL-connected
>> Winblows fanboy, he isn't really such but he plays as if he is, sort of.
>
>Is Wine standalone? I tried it a long time ago and I thought you had to
>provide dlls from a Windows box. I was trying to use TEFview, a player for
>TableEdit files. I don't think Wine could do MIDI at the time so it didn't
>work.

I think Wine does utilize certain actual M$ code, but not in terms of
its basic functioning, it's like the .NET stuff, and whatnot, added on
to the base installation as needed.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 11/27/2024 1:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:34:16 -0500, Joel wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Wine is not actual Winblows, and he knows it. He plays dumb,
>> which is kind of funny given the stereotype of the AOL-connected
>> Winblows fanboy, he isn't really such but he plays as if he is, sort of.
>
> Is Wine standalone? I tried it a long time ago and I thought you had to
> provide dlls from a Windows box. I was trying to use TEFview, a player for
> TableEdit files. I don't think Wine could do MIDI at the time so it didn't
> work.

Yeah, Wine stands alone. No Windows necessary at all.

If you have Wine installed, look at:
/home/rbowman/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32

Look at the .dll file names. The Linux folder holds nearly 900 .dll
files (and ntoskrnl.exe) named identically to those found in
C:\Windows\System32.

So the Windows app running on Linux makes calls to the same file names
and locations of the .dll files on Windows. wine then translates WinAPI
calls to POSIX calls.

They've been working on it for 30+ years and making blanket claims about
its capabilities, but the fact that there are 5 levels of compatibility
ranking means it's a big fail.

Last time I tried it, wine would add an entry to 'Open With' every time
I clicked on an MS Office file.

https://imgur.com/a/gylQQOg

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>On 11/27/2024 12:06 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The minute you installed Wine you turned your
>>>> GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
>>>> fit for its purpose.
>>>
>>> I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
>>> a Linux machine.
>>
>> DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.
>
>Those wacky folks at GuhNoo.org consider applications and games to be
>part of the operating system.
>
>
>"GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
>many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."
>
>https://www.gnu.org/home.en.html#More-GNU

In any event, most of what I'm using is not under Wine. Posting to
Usenet with a Winblows newsreader barely registers in significance,
even though it's something I cherish personally, and EncSpot is just a
nifty utility to analyze MP3 files. I have mIRC installed, still, but
am using IRCCloud exclusively.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>They've been working on it for 30+ years and making blanket claims about
>its capabilities, but the fact that there are 5 levels of compatibility
>ranking means it's a big fail.
>
>Last time I tried it, wine would add an entry to 'Open With' every time
>I clicked on an MS Office file.
>
>https://imgur.com/a/gylQQOg

Using any kind of recent Office version under Wine is not gonna work.
But that's the whole thing, you have to divorce yourself from
Winblows, including Office, be a man, use something other than M$.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>On 11/27/2024 12:06 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The minute you installed Wine you turned your
>>>>> GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
>>>>> fit for its purpose.
>>>>
>>>> I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
>>>> a Linux machine.
>>>
>>> DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.
>>
>>Those wacky folks at GuhNoo.org consider applications and games to be
>>part of the operating system.
>>
>>"GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
>>many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."
>>
>>https://www.gnu.org/home.en.html#More-GNU

That's silly. They are part of an operating system's ecosystem.

> In any event, most of what I'm using is not under Wine. Posting to
> Usenet with a Winblows newsreader barely registers in significance,
> even though it's something I cherish personally, and EncSpot is just a
> nifty utility to analyze MP3 files. I have mIRC installed, still, but
> am using IRCCloud exclusively.

--
You will be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize... posthumously.

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:49:04 -0500, DFS wrote:

> They've been working on it for 30+ years and making blanket claims about
> its capabilities, but the fact that there are 5 levels of compatibility
> ranking means it's a big fail.

Except for the one attempt maybe 20 years ago I've never revisited it.
I've always had a Windows laptop, or a desktop at work, if I needed to run
a Windows only program.

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:14:04 -0500, DFS wrote:

> "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
> many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

With default installations somehow I always wind up with Mahjong. Someday
when I'm really bored I'll have to see what it is.

On 11/27/2024 7:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:14:04 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
>> many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."
>
> With default installations somehow I always wind up with Mahjong. Someday
> when I'm really bored I'll have to see what it is.

It's what Mama-sans play while the girls are servicing you at the AMP.

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:18:24 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 11/27/2024 7:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:14:04 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
>>> many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."
>>
>> With default installations somehow I always wind up with Mahjong.
>> Someday when I'm really bored I'll have to see what it is.
>
>
> It's what Mama-sans play while the girls are servicing you at the AMP.

It's Mahjong Solitaire. It took a while to figure out the legal moves.
KMahjong does a little better job of presenting the overlapping layers
than Ubuntu. Not sure what AMP is or if I even want to know.

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Joel wrote:
>>
>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>>Those wacky folks at GuhNoo.org consider applications and games to be
>>>part of the operating system.
>>>
>>>"GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
>>>many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."
>>>
>>>https://www.gnu.org/home.en.html#More-GNU
>
>That's silly. They are part of an operating system's ecosystem.

Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
operating system.

--
"Only in the brain of [chrisv] does telemetry == spying." - DumFSck,
lying shamelessly