Kernel 6.12 is out.

My own automated build from source, including kernel header
install, only required about 2.5 minutes.

But then there was Nvidia. Gentoo emerge handles this but
I still hold my breathe every time.

It worked.

Now I am cruisin' on 6.12.

The only noteworthy difference, however, is that there are
now four kernel preemption models:

1) Server
2) Desktop
3) Desktop low-latency
4) Real Time

I chose #2 which is what I've been using all the time.

There are other improvements that are not revealed through
configure options.

Get 6.12. Be there or be square.

Lackey.

Haaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Gentoo and LFS are the only GNU/Linux distros. All
others are cheap imitations, just like costume jewelry.

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 21:16:25 +0000, Nux Vomica wrote:

> Kernel 6.12 is out.
>
> My own automated build from source, including kernel header
> install, only required about 2.5 minutes.
>
> But then there was Nvidia. Gentoo emerge handles this but
> I still hold my breathe every time.
>

Well what's smatter, you fucking distro lackeys?

This is a GNU/Linux group and I post a topical message
and I get no fucking responses?

You'd rather discuss ridiculous and meaningless things
like the smell of your own fucking farts?

Get the fuck outa here now!

I want nothing but GNU/Linux discussions on this group.

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 21:16:25 +0000, Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> wrote in
<pan$7b34a$7aafbe7a$e0d66c56$b4ab3a8b@linux.rocks>:

> Kernel 6.12 is out.
>
> My own automated build from source, including kernel header
> install, only required about 2.5 minutes.
>
> But then there was Nvidia. Gentoo emerge handles this but
> I still hold my breathe every time.
>
> It worked.
>
> Now I am cruisin' on 6.12.
>
> The only noteworthy difference, however, is that there are
> now four kernel preemption models:
>
> 1) Server
> 2) Desktop
> 3) Desktop low-latency
> 4) Real Time
>
> I chose #2 which is what I've been using all the time.
>
> There are other improvements that are not revealed through
> configure options.
>
> Get 6.12. Be there or be square.
>
> Lackey.
>
> Haaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> Gentoo and LFS are the only GNU/Linux distros. All
> others are cheap imitations, just like costume jewelry.

$ uname -a
Linux lm 6.12.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Nov 19 11:11:40 PST 2024 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Oddly enough, the beta drivers don't work with Linux 6.12 yet. I had
to switch back to the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-550.135.run binary blob.

Note that my distribution doesn't build the kernel for me, I have
to do it myself.

Lackey.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha etc.

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On 20 Nov 2024 00:06:30 GMT, vallor wrote:

>
> Note that my distribution doesn't build the kernel for me, I have
> to do it myself.
>

Gentoo can build the kernel but I do not allow it to do so.

Rather I use my own script. I just point it at the source
tar ball and it does the rest:

....

cd /tmp/src/linux
mkdir -p /tmp/install/headers/$NEWDIR/usr
make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/tmp/install/headers/$NEWDIR/usr headers_install
find /tmp/install/headers/$NEWDIR/usr/include \( -name .install -o -name ..install.cmd \) -delete

cd /tmp/install/headers/$NEWDIR
removetree kernel-headers-$OLDDIR
if [ $? -eq 0 ]
then
checktree
if [ $? -eq 0 ]
then
insttree kernel-headers-$NEWDIR
else
echo "Could not install"
fi
else
echo "Could not remove"
fi

....

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Le 20-11-2024, Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 20 Nov 2024 00:06:30 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>> Note that my distribution doesn't build the kernel for me, I have
>> to do it myself.

It was important to do years ago, it's useless now. Except if you want
to have issues with some drivers, there is no need to do it. For a
normal desktop I mean. Some usages can require it, but it's very rare. I
wouldn't consider a distro who requires me to compile anything to be
serious. It's a useless waste of time and ressources. On an embedded
device, sure it's important, but not on a desktop.

> Gentoo can build the kernel but I do not allow it to do so.

Once again, you prove you don't understand what you do. I already told
you so, but you didn't improve and you like to show it to all to see.

> Rather I use my own script. I just point it at the source
> tar ball and it does the rest:

You needed two and a half minutes, to do it, yes. So, when a new kernel
comes out, it comes with new options. Which have defaults. And the only
possibility to update your kernel in two minutes and thirty seconds is
to let the defaults. So, you personalize nothing, you optimize nothing
and it takes you more time than anyone using the already compiled
kernel to do so. Great job. I'm impressed. It's the most efficient way to
lose your time. The only other one who looked impressed is vallor who
try to compete with you in the uselessness usage of a computer.

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Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On 23 Nov 2024 11:16:54 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> It was important to do years ago, it's useless now. Except if you want
>> to have issues with some drivers, there is no need to do it. For a
>> normal desktop I mean. Some usages can require it, but it's very rare. I
>> wouldn't consider a distro who requires me to compile anything to be
>> serious. It's a useless waste of time and ressources. On an embedded
>> device, sure it's important, but not on a desktop.
>
>Says who? Says YOU?
>
>You are NOT an expert -- not even close. The above comment
>is just your ignorant and confused OPINION.
>
>However, _I_ am the expert, and when _I_ say it is best
>to build the kernel then it is best.
>
>> You needed two and a half minutes, to do it, yes. So, when a new kernel
>> comes out, it comes with new options. Which have defaults. And the only
>> possibility to update your kernel in two minutes and thirty seconds is
>> to let the defaults.
>
>Wrong yet again, retard.
>
>Using "make oldconfig" I can set all new options in less than
>30 seconds.
>
>You always object because you are JEALOUS. You wish that you
>could do the same but you cannot.

If I were considering moving to Linux, for the first time, it's
Stéphane's advice I'd be interested in, not yours. This is a group to
advocate the use of Linux. Your posts are a disservice.

--
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Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Le 23-11-2024, Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 23 Nov 2024 11:16:54 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> It was important to do years ago, it's useless now. Except if you want
>> to have issues with some drivers, there is no need to do it. For a
>> normal desktop I mean. Some usages can require it, but it's very rare. I
>> wouldn't consider a distro who requires me to compile anything to be
>> serious. It's a useless waste of time and ressources. On an embedded
>> device, sure it's important, but not on a desktop.
>>
>
> Says who? Says YOU?

Can't you read? Of course I'm the one saying that. It's obvious. I'm
surprised to see how it's difficult for you to spot. Unlike you, I have
only one name and I stuck with it.

> You are NOT an expert -- not even close.

No need to be an expert to state the obvious.

> The above comment
> is just your ignorant and confused OPINION.

It's a fact you are to late to know. You are stuck in the past when the
computer science is moving forward very fast. You'll never been able to
catch up.

> However, _I_ am the expert, and when _I_ say it is best
> to build the kernel then it is best.

An other fact is: you are an expert in making me laugh.

>> You needed two and a half minutes, to do it, yes. So, when a new kernel
>> comes out, it comes with new options. Which have defaults. And the only
>> possibility to update your kernel in two minutes and thirty seconds is
>> to let the defaults.
>>
>
> Wrong yet again,

What's wrong? The rest of your message proved every word right.

> retard.

It's a little be different from idiot, but not that much. You pretend to
have imagination and you are stuck with two or three words to insult me?
What the fuck? Improve please. Don't be so limited. I know that even you
can do better than that.

> Using "make oldconfig" I can set all new options in less than
> 30 seconds.

No way. In less than thirty second you just have the time to read and
accept the default. You can't guess before hand what the new option will
be, so there is no way you can understand and know what the knew options
will be and how will impact your performances. So, I don't believe you
can optimize anything in thirty seconds. Nobody serious about optimization
would believe it. It's either a plain lie or a daydream: choose what you
want, I don't buy it.

> You always object because you are JEALOUS.

Jealous of what? You pretend things but never show anything concrete.
You are the funniest guy here. I'm objecting because it's funny and you
never stop making me laugh.

> You wish that you could do the same but you cannot.

The same what? To compile my kernel? I did it years ago what it was
mandatory. I did it not so long ago because I wanted to test something,
but in a VM, not in my computer. But it's a useless waste of time and
ressources now, I have better things to do.

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Le 23-11-2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> If I were considering moving to Linux, for the first time, it's
> Stéphane's advice I'd be interested in, not yours.

My advice wouldn't be very helpful for a beginner. I would say to use
something like ubuntu or mint or something like that. For two reasons:
- a beginner distro have everything useful simply installed by default
so it's easy to use to discover Linux.
- a well spread distro has a lot of users, so if something bad happens,
someone else should have encountered it before, so it should be easier
to find help.

But you don't need my advice for that, beginner distros exist and are
well spread for a reason. A lot of people can give the same advice.

> This is a group to advocate the use of Linux.

For or against. That's where DFS and LP/NV/DG/whatever are in chart.

> Your posts are a disservice.

To Linux, yes, because, unlike DFS, he claims to advocate Linux when he
makes its users look like first class morons.

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On 23 Nov 2024 15:29:18 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> My advice wouldn't be very helpful for a beginner.
>

Why not? You are a "beginner." You are a distro lackey.

Admit it. If a GNU/Linux distro did not exist then you you be
as helpless as a fish out of water.

You could not build your own distro.

You could not configure your own distro.

You are not a GNU/Linux advocate. You are a GNU/Linux
phony,

On 11/23/2024 11:15 AM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:

> On 23 Nov 2024 15:29:18 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> My advice wouldn't be very helpful for a beginner.
>>
>
> Why not? You are a "beginner." You are a distro lackey.
>
> Admit it. If a GNU/Linux distro did not exist then you you be
> as helpless as a fish out of water.
>
> You could not build your own distro.

You greatly overestimate your skillz, bozo.

Just about anybody can follow a Gentoo or LFS handbook.

> You could not configure your own distro.

Of course he could.

> You are not a GNU/Linux advocate. You are a GNU/Linux
> phony,

He's much less phony than you.

Le 30-11-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
> On 11/23/2024 11:15 AM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:
>
>> On 23 Nov 2024 15:29:18 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My advice wouldn't be very helpful for a beginner.
>>>
>>
>> Why not?

You wouldn't understand my answer.

>> You are a "beginner."

Certainly not.

>> You are a distro lackey.

Like everyone, including you. Changing a configuration file isn't enough
to pretend having creating your own distro.

>> Admit it. If a GNU/Linux distro did not exist then you you be
>> as helpless as a fish out of water.

I'm not sure you can understand, but I'll admit something else. If there
wasn't any distro, I would have managed to install Linux a long time
ago. To discover it. But I would have switch to something else by now. I
have better thing to do on my spare time than do the work a distro does.

>> You could not build your own distro.

I have really better things to do. So, without any distro, I would have
tried it to discover, but then I would have switched to something else.

Because LFS is great to discover, but to use it as an everyday OS is
just a full time job. Because once LFS is installed, you have nothing
usable. So, you have to install BLFS to have something a little bit more
useful but not enough. When LFS and BLFS are installed, you have the
skills required to install anything (in fact, anybody but you would) to
have a real usable computer. But it takes more time. And then, you have
to manage the updates and it never ends. So with LFS/BLFS you can have a
real good computer but you have no time left to you it.

The ultimate proof being you who never use your computer.

> You greatly overestimate your skillz, bozo.

Nothing new under the sun.

> Just about anybody can follow a Gentoo or LFS handbook.

Yes, but with a lot of time available.

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