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* All Hail Midnight Commander!Farley Flud
+* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Chris Ahlstrom
|`* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!candycanearter07
| +* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!rbowman
| |`* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!candycanearter07
| | `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!rbowman
| |  `* Re: All Hail cdargs!rbowman
| |   +- Re: All Hail cdargs!candycanearter07
| |   `- Re: All Hail cdargs!Chris Ahlstrom
| `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Lawrence D'Oliveiro
|  `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!rbowman
|   +- Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!candycanearter07
|   `- Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!DFS
+* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Stéphane CARPENTIER
|`* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Stéphane CARPENTIER
| `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Farley Flud
|  `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Stéphane CARPENTIER
|   +- Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Joel
|   +* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Farley Flud
|   |+- Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Joel
|   |`- Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Stéphane CARPENTIER
|   `- Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!CrudeSausage
`* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Physfitfreak
 `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Physfitfreak
  `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Farley Flud
   `* Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!Physfitfreak
    `- Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!DFS

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Subject: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: Farley Flud
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 20:53 UTC
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Subject: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Midnight Commander is, hands down, the absolute best file manager+
for GNU/Linux:

https://midnight-commander.org/

_I_ use it exclusively and therefore it MUST be damned good.

MC is fast and versatile and beats ALL that GUI shit that the
crippled distros offer.

But MC was once, not too long ago, on the verge of extinction.
However, concerned people got together to bring it back and
are continuing to maintain it.

Lets give a hearty hail to these MC developers. They, as well
as countless and nameless others, make GNU/Linux truly the greatest
OS in the history of technical man.

By the way, the fantastic text editor Cooledit is based on the
code for the internal text editor of MC.

Check it out:

https://github.com/paulsheer/cooledit

Don't be a fucking distro lackey all your life.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 11:51 UTC
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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> Midnight Commander is, hands down, the absolute best file manager+
> for GNU/Linux:
>
> https://midnight-commander.org/
>
> _I_ use it exclusively and therefore it MUST be damned good.
>
> MC is fast and versatile and beats ALL that GUI shit that the
> crippled distros offer.
>
> But MC was once, not too long ago, on the verge of extinction.
> However, concerned people got together to bring it back and
> are continuing to maintain it.
>
> Lets give a hearty hail to these MC developers. They, as well
> as countless and nameless others, make GNU/Linux truly the greatest
> OS in the history of technical man.
>
> <snip>

If I'm going to use an ncurses file manager, I'll use vifm. Like mc, it
can inspect zip files.

However, mostly I get by quite well with cdargs, find, grep, bash completion,
and common unix commands like cp, rm, rmdir, and mv.

All you mc lackeys better shut the fsck up! :-D

--
What does "it" mean in the sentence "What time is it?"?

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: candycanearter07
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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:51 this Wednesday (GMT):
> Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> Midnight Commander is, hands down, the absolute best file manager+
>> for GNU/Linux:
>>
>> https://midnight-commander.org/
>>
>> _I_ use it exclusively and therefore it MUST be damned good.
>>
>> MC is fast and versatile and beats ALL that GUI shit that the
>> crippled distros offer.
>>
>> But MC was once, not too long ago, on the verge of extinction.
>> However, concerned people got together to bring it back and
>> are continuing to maintain it.
>>
>> Lets give a hearty hail to these MC developers. They, as well
>> as countless and nameless others, make GNU/Linux truly the greatest
>> OS in the history of technical man.
>>
>> <snip>
>
> If I'm going to use an ncurses file manager, I'll use vifm. Like mc, it
> can inspect zip files.
>
> However, mostly I get by quite well with cdargs, find, grep, bash completion,
> and common unix commands like cp, rm, rmdir, and mv.
>
> All you mc lackeys better shut the fsck up! :-D

I mostly use mc when I need to move a lot of files into one folder or
vice versa. It's a nice tool but a bit unwieldy for single files.

Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.
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Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: rbowman
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 02:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.

Thanks. I'd forgotten about them.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 02:56 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.
>
> Thanks. I'd forgotten about them.

Yeah, they're more useful for moving between tasks, or sometimes when
you need to do something in a certain working directly.
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Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: rbowman
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:00:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 02:56 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.
>>
>> Thanks. I'd forgotten about them.
>
>
> Yeah, they're more useful for moving between tasks, or sometimes when
> you need to do something in a certain working directly.

Over the years for my work source tree I've developed an extensive alias
file like

alias cadesri='cd $SRC_DIR/newmap/cadmap/lgim'
alias cadmsg='cd $SRC_DIR/cadmsg'
alias cfs='cd $SRC_DIR/net/cfsd

My own projects aren't so well organized and it would be handy if I'm
working in bar and want to snoop around in ../../python/django/bin to popd
back when I'm done. I used to do it but it's one of those things that id
you don't use them somewhat often you forget the exist.

Subject: Re: All Hail cdargs!
From: rbowman
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 07:17:06 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Then cd to where you want, and type the "mark" command. To get to that
> directory (e.g. /home/user/development/git) later, type "cdb git".

How does that differ from pushd, popd, and the stack of dormer
directories.

Subject: Re: All Hail cdargs!
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 18:59 this Friday (GMT):
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 07:17:06 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Then cd to where you want, and type the "mark" command. To get to that
>> directory (e.g. /home/user/development/git) later, type "cdb git".
>
> How does that differ from pushd, popd, and the stack of dormer
> directories.

I'd assume it would persist between terminal sessions, and also be a
named system rather than just pushing to a stack.
I might install it, that sounds super useful.
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Subject: Re: All Hail cdargs!
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 07:17:06 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Then cd to where you want, and type the "mark" command. To get to that
>> directory (e.g. /home/user/development/git) later, type "cdb git".
>
> How does that differ from pushd, popd, and the stack of dormer
> directories.

It does a lookup.

Try it. You can delete it if you don't like it.

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primitive African tribes that exist by chasing the wildebeest on foot,
and they have to go around largely naked, because, as the old tribal
saying goes: "N'wam k'honi soit qui mali," which means, "If you think
you can catch a wildebeest in this climate and wear clothes at the same
time, then I have some beach front property in the desert region of
Northern Mali that you may be interested in."
So it's not considered pornographic when National Geographic
publishes color photographs of these people hunting the wildebeest
naked, or pounding one rock onto another rock for some primitive reason
naked, or whatever. But if National Geographic were to publish an
article entitled "The Girls of the California Junior College System
Hunt the Wildebeest Naked," some people would call it pornography. But
others would not. And still others, such as the Spectacularly Rev.
Jerry Falwell, would get upset about seeing the wildebeest naked.
-- Dave Barry, "Pornography"

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Le 05-11-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> Midnight Commander is, hands down, the absolute best file manager+
> for GNU/Linux:
>
> https://midnight-commander.org/
>
> _I_ use it exclusively

That's another of your sentences in which one can say a lot about.

For a start, I don't believe the "exclusively" word on your sentence.
I'm pretty sure I saw one of your videos in which you displayed a
graphical file manager.

> and therefore it MUST be damned good.

Then, in your videos about Linux (ie: not the ones in which you are
dreaming about what you would do to others if you where able to get out
of your asylum), you show your way of using Linux is the worst possible
way of using Linux. So it would mean it's the worst tool ever. Or, as
it's not the fault of the tool if you are unable to use it correctly,
one need to read the manual and not your claims about it.

In fact, it's a TUI, so it's as close as possible as a GUI file manager
when a command line is more efficient. So that means you are a mouse
lackey who can't use properly a keyboard trying to hide it at all costs.
But, once again, you lose in you claims.

Unrelated to the sentence, but related to the tool, I tried it years
ago. When GUI file managers didn't exist on Linux. So I was eager to
have something useful to avoid the command line. But MC wasn't that good
and as I was learning the command line. So, the more I learned the
command line, the more I liked it and I never really used MC even if it
was really appealing in the beginning.

> MC is fast and versatile and beats ALL that GUI shit that the
> crippled distros offer.

Every distro offers a terminal which provide a command line better
suited than your way of trying to use it to try impress your asylum's
roommates. No need of the GUI shit you are using even if you claim
otherwise.

> But MC was once, not too long ago, on the verge of extinction.

Yes, useless, exactly.

> However, concerned people got together to bring it back and
> are continuing to maintain it.

They are surely nostalgics.

> By the way, the fantastic text editor Cooledit is based on the
> code for the internal text editor of MC.

So what? A text editor which can't compete with vim based on a part of a
TUI toy which can compete with the command line? Why should I be
impressed? Because you say so? In fact, you are often able to impress
me, but in the ways of stupidity where you can always push the limits.

> Don't be a fucking distro lackey all your life.

Like you? I won't.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.

My way of keeping track of where I have something in progress is YATS.

(Yet Another Terminal Session)

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:54:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.
>
> My way of keeping track of where I have something in progress is YATS.
>
> (Yet Another Terminal Session)

That works. I've got 4 Konsole tabs at the moment. Windows even caught on.
I changed the default to cmd rather than PowerShell so I can spawn
several, or even a terminal into whichever WSL is installed.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 00:50 this Saturday (GMT):
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:54:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.
>>
>> My way of keeping track of where I have something in progress is YATS.
>>
>> (Yet Another Terminal Session)
>
> That works. I've got 4 Konsole tabs at the moment. Windows even caught on.
> I changed the default to cmd rather than PowerShell so I can spawn
> several, or even a terminal into whichever WSL is installed.

I just have a keybind to start up a terminal session (Alt-Enter) and
abuse exec to make it easier to clean up after.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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On 11/8/2024 7:50 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:54:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> Also pushd/popd are pretty nice sometimes.
>>
>> My way of keeping track of where I have something in progress is YATS.
>>
>> (Yet Another Terminal Session)
>
> That works. I've got 4 Konsole tabs at the moment. Windows even caught on.
> I changed the default to cmd rather than PowerShell so I can spawn
> several, or even a terminal into whichever WSL is installed.

When you reboot Windows, reopening Terminal will bring up the number of
tabs you had open before rebooting, but the tab titles will be reset,
and the directories you were last logged to will revert to the default
(which you can set).

So it's halfway there.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: Physfitfreak
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On 11/5/24 14:53, Farley Flud wrote:
> Midnight Commander is, hands down, the absolute best file manager+
> for GNU/Linux:
>
> https://midnight-commander.org/
>
> _I_ use it exclusively and therefore it MUST be damned good.
>
> MC is fast and versatile and beats ALL that GUI shit that the
> crippled distros offer.
>
> But MC was once, not too long ago, on the verge of extinction.
> However, concerned people got together to bring it back and
> are continuing to maintain it.
>
> Lets give a hearty hail to these MC developers. They, as well
> as countless and nameless others, make GNU/Linux truly the greatest
> OS in the history of technical man.
>
> By the way, the fantastic text editor Cooledit is based on the
> code for the internal text editor of MC.
>
> Check it out:
>
> https://github.com/paulsheer/cooledit
>
> Don't be a fucking distro lackey all your life.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>
>

How do you rate Andrea Borman's knowledge and usefulness?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVI6SCtVu4c

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On 11/9/24 6:28 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> In this case, a program tutorial, videos are useless. This
> bitch should create a web page or pages instead. It would
> be far more efficient.

I think part of the reason she does videos is to keep her brain
functioning. In the middle of talking she sometimes loses the thread of
thought and keeps repeating the last note she made until she remembers
how she wanted to continue.

Einstein did that with studying high school geometry. He had that
geometry book by his bed in hospital when he died. Some late 1800s
famous American physician also did that by reviewing Latin. When a
government high official visited him during the last days of his life he
saw he was busy learning Latin in his bed. He asked him something to the
effect of, "Why on earth are you studying Latin at your age and
condition?" To which he responded something like, "My medicine is for my
body, and Latin is for my brain."

Borman was probably a high school teacher or something, and now she's
using her experience in dealing with various OS to help her brain keep
going, I think.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: Farley Flud
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:58:04 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> I think part of the reason she does videos is to keep her brain
> functioning.
>

Probably the biggest part is a desire to make $bucks from
Google. I don't know how that works but she has 54K subscribers
and that must bring in something.

I seldom partake of YouTube instructional videos but whenever
I do I usually encounter another "talking head" and that really
infuriates me. It makes me shout at the screen: "I don't want
to see your ugly mug! I want information!"

Very few of these YouTubers keep their ugly heads out of their
videos.

By the way, I understand that YouTube has LOTS of ads but since
I always use yt-dlp to view videos I will never see them.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Le 09-11-2024, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
> On 08 Nov 2024 22:56:29 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> Unrelated to the sentence, but related to the tool, I tried it years
>> ago. When GUI file managers didn't exist on Linux. So I was eager to
>> have something useful to avoid the command line. But MC wasn't that good
>> and as I was learning the command line. So, the more I learned the
>> command line, the more I liked it and I never really used MC even if it
>> was really appealing in the beginning.
>>
>
> Would you care to make an instructional video demonstrating the supposed
> superiority of your command lines versus MC?

I don't look at videos because they are for illiterates like you who
can't read. As I have more interesting things to do than trying to
educate a first class moron unable to learn the basics, I won't. It
would be a loss of time.

> You cannot.

I'm not as limited as you. I could if I wanted, but I don't care.

> That stupid junk Wayland of which you are so fond

I'm not fond of Wayland. I'm using it because it's the future, so it's
always a good idea to be ready for it. I provides better security than
xorg, so it's a good start. Now, if someone comes with something better,
I'll switch to it without any issue.

> has no screen grab and thus making such videos is not possible.

If you are limited in what you can learn, you prove in every message,
you are boundless in the ways you can show your mediocrity. Each time
you speak about something, you have to prove you don't know what you are
talking about. The real issue is that DFS is using your arguments
against Linux. And in this way, you are, as always, a Windows advocate.

Your inability to do something with Linux doesn't prove it's impossible
to be done, it only proves you are unable to learn how to do something.
So,, this link is not the only one which proves you wrong, it's only the
first one in a ten seconds research because I have no more time to spend
educating you and to prove you wrong for others who could use your
message against Linux :
<https://www.debugpoint.com/screen-recorders-linux-wayland/>

> You may think that you are progressive but you are just another stunted
> distro lackey.

In fact, your message proves that you are more a distro lackey than me.
Because, to my knowledge, no distro provides Swaywm as a default WM, so
I had to install it by myself, which is, unlike your claim, not what a
distro lackey would do. When you can't do what's not installed by default
by your distro, makes you a distro lackey. And your inability to compile
the kernel is just another proof.

> I use X and I will always use X.

Until it wont exist. Or until you win a Darwin award.

> Wayland can smooch my hairy balls.

No, it can't because you have no more balls than brain. The only thing
you have is a big mouth.

--
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Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: Farley Flud
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On 10 Nov 2024 14:00:07 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
>> has no screen grab and thus making such videos is not possible.
>
> So,, this link is not the only one which proves you wrong, it's only the
> first one in a ten seconds research because I have no more time to spend
> educating you and to prove you wrong for others who could use your
> message against Linux :
> <https://www.debugpoint.com/screen-recorders-linux-wayland/>
>

Nope. Wrong again.

Ffmpeg is the only choice and it does not function with that
junk Wayland.

The exception is the ffmpeg "kmsgrab" option but that's also junk
and it only works with the KDE garbage.

No one at ffmpeg wants to support junk Wayland:

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10742

"The current behavior of screen recording with ffmpeg on wayland
is a black screen as output."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

That's youe future.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Le 10-11-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 10 Nov 2024 14:00:07 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>>> has no screen grab and thus making such videos is not possible.
>>
>> So,, this link is not the only one which proves you wrong, it's only the
>> first one in a ten seconds research because I have no more time to spend
>> educating you and to prove you wrong for others who could use your
>> message against Linux :
>> <https://www.debugpoint.com/screen-recorders-linux-wayland/>
>>
>
> Nope. Wrong again.

Of course it's right. It's obvious, you just have to read to know it.
Unlike your claim, it's possible to record a video under wayland.
Period. Your added limitations after the answer are only showing your
lack of knowledge.

> Ffmpeg is the only choice

Nonsense. The choice is to chose something that works. You inability to
adapt to your environment coupled with your inability to adapt your
environment to you makes you unable to do anything. That's why you
prove, once again, you are a looser.

And won't argue too much about obs because I believe you said you use it,
but I'm not that sure. So I'll consider I have a bad memory and you
don't contradict yourself once again. But be careful in your next video.

> and it does not function with that junk Wayland.

You have two choices. Either you use something else. Or you correct it to
make it work. You chose neither, so you pretend it's impossible but the
fact remains it's possible for everyone but you.

> No one at ffmpeg wants to support junk Wayland:

So, use something else.

> That's youe future.

Once again, you are wrong. My future is not about recording videos. And
if I wanted to, I would have plenty of choices. It's your future in
which you are unable to use a computer because your toys are obsolete.

--
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https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>Le 10-11-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
>> No one at ffmpeg wants to support junk Wayland:
>
>So, use something else.
>
>> That's youe future.
>
>Once again, you are wrong. My future is not about recording videos. And
>if I wanted to, I would have plenty of choices. It's your future in
>which you are unable to use a computer because your toys are obsolete.

Larry/Russell/whatever is wrong so often, even about the most basic
things ("see my badass black screen, for my desktop!!!"), it's
unbelievable. It'd come off as a troll, except he's not bright enough
to come up with that, he really does use a Xeon box as a 1994 model
PC. Stupid AF.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
From: Farley Flud
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On 10 Nov 2024 19:57:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
>> Ffmpeg is the only choice
>
> Nonsense. The choice is to chose something that works.
>

Idiot.

Ffmpeg is the only utility that allows direct access to the
screen without the encumbrance of a bloated GUI.

This works only under X.

Wayland, and its stupid developers, never envisioned such
a requirement.

>
>> No one at ffmpeg wants to support junk Wayland:
>
> So, use something else.
>

Under junk Wayland, there is nothing else.

>> That's youe future.
>
> Once again, you are wrong. My future is not about recording videos.
>

Your future is fucking bullshit.

Video screen capture is an essential, even critical, function of
any OS.

On GNU/Linux, only X Window offers such functionality.

--
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Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>Ffmpeg is the only utility that allows direct access to the
>screen without the encumbrance of a bloated GUI.

Heh ...

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United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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Le 2024-11-10 à 14:57, Stéphane CARPENTIER a écrit :
> Le 10-11-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>> On 10 Nov 2024 14:00:07 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> has no screen grab and thus making such videos is not possible.
>>>
>>> So,, this link is not the only one which proves you wrong, it's only the
>>> first one in a ten seconds research because I have no more time to spend
>>> educating you and to prove you wrong for others who could use your
>>> message against Linux :
>>> <https://www.debugpoint.com/screen-recorders-linux-wayland/>
>>>
>>
>> Nope. Wrong again.
>
> Of course it's right. It's obvious, you just have to read to know it.
> Unlike your claim, it's possible to record a video under wayland.
> Period. Your added limitations after the answer are only showing your
> lack of knowledge.
>
>> Ffmpeg is the only choice
>
> Nonsense. The choice is to chose something that works. You inability to
> adapt to your environment coupled with your inability to adapt your
> environment to you makes you unable to do anything. That's why you
> prove, once again, you are a looser.

No, Larry Pietraskiewicz is a _loser_. The only thing loose about Larry
is his asshole after the neighbourhood burls are done with it.

< snip >

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.
Trump is a legend.

Subject: Re: All Hail Midnight Commander!
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On 11/10/24 5:37 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> I don't know how that works but she has 54K subscribers

Linux must've become popular. Even computer newbies must by now hate
Windows.

I give it a good chance that the code monkey cro-magnon "DFS" has
installed every major form of linux on his various computers, and every
now and then licks the screen in joy, saying "If not Physfit's dick, why
not Linux then?".

There's no reason for him (her) to be in COLA other than learning even
more about linux.

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