https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23

The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
always interesting. Most of them are pro-Linux of course.

On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:

> https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
>
>
> The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
> always interesting. Most of them are pro-Linux of course.

Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
Windows is "Linux on the desktop".

I know that must eat at you...

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.4 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"What if there were no hypothetical situations?"

Like I said, the only way Windows is able to hold on to its “dominance” in
the “desktop” market is through the ever-shrinking definition of
“desktop”.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>Like I said, the only way Windows is able to hold on to its “dominance” in
>the “desktop” market is through the ever-shrinking definition of
>“desktop”.

That's a platitude, the desktop market is not what it once was because
of the existence of smartphones etc., but Windows and Linux and even
macOS are still very purposeful, when one doesn't want to be relegated
to a fucking handheld, battery-powered device.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 01:19:02 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Like I said, the only way Windows is able to hold on to its “dominance”
>>in the “desktop” market is through the ever-shrinking definition of
>>“desktop”.
>
> That's a platitude ...

.... where you immediately contradict yourself without even drawing a
breath:

> ... the desktop market is not what it once was ...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>>>Like I said, the only way Windows is able to hold on to its “dominance”
>>>in the “desktop” market is through the ever-shrinking definition of
>>>“desktop”.
>>
>> That's a platitude ...
>
>... where you immediately contradict yourself without even drawing a
>breath:
>
>> ... the desktop market is not what it once was ...

Dude, come on. The existence of other kinds of devices in no way
changes the unique usefulness of desktop/laptop computers. It changes
what percentage of CPUs are made for them, I know, we can agree on
that, but that doesn't make desktops a "niche". So my point stands.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-10-20 10:50 p.m., vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
> <vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:
>
>> https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
>>
>>
>> The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
>> always interesting. Most of them are pro-Linux of course.
>
> Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
> Windows is "Linux on the desktop".
>
> I know that must eat at you...

Absolutely none of that makes any kind of sense.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On 10/21/2024 10:13 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2024-10-20 10:50 p.m., vallor wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>> <vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
>>>
>>>
>>> The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
>>> always interesting.  Most of them are pro-Linux of course.
>>
>> Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
>> Windows is "Linux on the desktop".
>>
>> I know that must eat at you...
>
> Absolutely none of that makes any kind of sense.

He's referring to Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Bloaty thinks MS adding it as a feature bothers me and is a victory for
Linux. He forgets Microsoft has had a *nix component available
continuously for Windows for 25 years.

Rather than bother me, I'm glad MS made it so easy to run a
high-performing Linux distro alongside Windows.

$ wsl --list --online
The following is a list of valid distributions that can be installed.
Install using 'wsl.exe --install <Distro>'.

NAME FRIENDLY NAME
Ubuntu Ubuntu
Debian Debian GNU/Linux
kali-linux Kali Linux Rolling
Ubuntu-18.04 Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Ubuntu-20.04 Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
Ubuntu-22.04 Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
Ubuntu-24.04 Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
OracleLinux_7_9 Oracle Linux 7.9
OracleLinux_8_7 Oracle Linux 8.7
OracleLinux_9_1 Oracle Linux 9.1
openSUSE-Leap-15.6 openSUSE Leap 15.6
SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP5 SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP5
SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP6 SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP6
openSUSE-Tumbleweed openSUSE Tumbleweed

And you can create and distribute your own WSL distros.

On 10/20/2024 10:50 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
> <vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:
>
>> https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
>>
>>
>> The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
>> always interesting. Most of them are pro-Linux of course.
>
> Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
> Windows is "Linux on the desktop".

Linux was stillborn on the desktop. But the devs keep plugging away,
trying to resuscitate it. Keep hope alive!

> I know that must eat at you...

Having a well-performing *nix environment available without having to
dual-boot is a serious treat for OS geeks or anyone that needs Windows
and Linux.

The ability to access multiple WSL distros with a couple clicks in the
Terminal is one of the best features MS has added to Windows in a long
time, in my estimation.

And Windows has had a *nix component available for like 25 years.
What's new is how easy it is to install and use. And how fast it runs.

On 2024-10-21 10:48 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 10/21/2024 10:13 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2024-10-20 10:50 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>> <vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
>>>> always interesting.  Most of them are pro-Linux of course.
>>>
>>> Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
>>> Windows is "Linux on the desktop".
>>>
>>> I know that must eat at you...
>>
>> Absolutely none of that makes any kind of sense.
>
>
> He's referring to Windows Subsystem for Linux.
>
> Bloaty thinks MS adding it as a feature bothers me and is a victory for
> Linux.  He forgets Microsoft has had a *nix component available
> continuously for Windows for 25 years.
>
> Rather than bother me, I'm glad MS made it so easy to run a
> high-performing Linux distro alongside Windows.
>
>
> $ wsl --list --online
> The following is a list of valid distributions that can be installed.
> Install using 'wsl.exe --install <Distro>'.
>
> NAME                            FRIENDLY NAME
> Ubuntu                          Ubuntu
> Debian                          Debian GNU/Linux
> kali-linux                      Kali Linux Rolling
> Ubuntu-18.04                    Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
> Ubuntu-20.04                    Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
> Ubuntu-22.04                    Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
> Ubuntu-24.04                    Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
> OracleLinux_7_9                 Oracle Linux 7.9
> OracleLinux_8_7                 Oracle Linux 8.7
> OracleLinux_9_1                 Oracle Linux 9.1
> openSUSE-Leap-15.6              openSUSE Leap 15.6
> SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP5    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP5
> SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP6    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP6
> openSUSE-Tumbleweed             openSUSE Tumbleweed
>
>
> And you can create and distribute your own WSL distros.

The Linux desktop environment won't have any kind of a victory until
companies willingly sell it in stores and actually make a profit. Until
then, it'll be niche. It works well, it's pretty, but it remains niche.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:23:10 -0400, Joel wrote:

> The existence of other kinds of devices in no way
> changes the unique usefulness of desktop/laptop computers.

A lot of those laptops are also being replaced with Chromebooks. That
means further shrinking of the Windows market.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 10:48:43 -0400, DFS wrote:

> He's referring to Windows Subsystem for Linux.
>
> Bloaty thinks MS adding it as a feature bothers me and is a victory for
> Linux. He forgets Microsoft has had a *nix component available
> continuously for Windows for 25 years.

But not one that worked very well. Now suddenly Linux compatibility
matters more than paying lip service to POSIX ever did. So Microsoft first
tried to add a compatibility layer (WSL1) like it did for POSIX. And just
as for POSIX, that simply wasn’t worth using.

But having token support wasn’t enough: unlike for POSIX of old, the
market is demanding real Linux support. And the “personality” system of
Windows just isn’t up to it: so it had to add a real Linux kernel.

Yes, that does represent a victory of Linux over Windows.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:01:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> But not one that worked very well. Now suddenly Linux compatibility
> matters more than paying lip service to POSIX ever did. So Microsoft
> first tried to add a compatibility layer (WSL1) like it did for POSIX.
> And just as for POSIX, that simply wasn’t worth using.

If the Posix subsytem worked we certainly wouldn't be paying licensing
fees to MKS for cross platform ability.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>> The existence of other kinds of devices in no way
>> changes the unique usefulness of desktop/laptop computers.
>
>A lot of those laptops are also being replaced with Chromebooks. That
>means further shrinking of the Windows market.

There are a lot of desktop/laptop options, sure, but Winblows is still
the default OS for them.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:57:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:23:10 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> The existence of other kinds of devices in no way changes the unique
>> usefulness of desktop/laptop computers.
>
> A lot of those laptops are also being replaced with Chromebooks. That
> means further shrinking of the Windows market.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/1620324/chromeos-2023-google-has-
eye-on-enterprise.html

"Another area of enterprise-oriented focus in the works is expanded
support for Windows apps within the ChromeOS environment. While Google had
previously worked on a partnership that allowed you to run an entire
instance of Windows directly on a Chromebook, it’s finding that more and
more companies now prefer a simpler approach — wherein such apps are
packaged in a way that looks and feels local but is actually streaming
securely from a remote server."

If a Chromebook is used to run Microsoft 356 is that shrinking the Windows
market? A $22/month Business Premium subscription is a better cash flow
than a one-shot OS sale. Even the $100/year home family plan is more
attractive.

On 22 Oct 2024 00:20:27 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> If a Chromebook is used to run Microsoft 356 is that shrinking the
> Windows market?

Obviously it is. For a long time now, Microsoft’s primary cash cow has
been, not Windows, but Office/365.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On 22 Oct 2024 00:20:27 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> If a Chromebook is used to run Microsoft 356 is that shrinking the
>> Windows market?
>
>Obviously it is. For a long time now, Microsoft’s primary cash cow has
>been, not Windows, but Office/365.

Windows isn't their cash cow, yeah, that is true, but to pretend that
we've really made a dent in the market for it is not reality, macOS
and Linux have gained marginally in recent years, as well as ChromeOS,
but Windows 10 and 11 are still the mainstays of the desktop market,
because they're what people know. We here in COLA know how much Win11
is bloatware, but that is irrelevant to a lot of people, who see a
computer as something to be provided to them by an OEM, that's where
M$ sells its platform mainly, people for better or worse use their
crapware because they simply don't have the time and impetus, to do
something different.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:07:12 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 22 Oct 2024 00:20:27 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> If a Chromebook is used to run Microsoft 356 is that shrinking the
>> Windows market?
>
> Obviously it is. For a long time now, Microsoft’s primary cash cow has
> been, not Windows, but Office/365.

You are correct. I was equating Windows with Microsoft. I should have said
the Microsoft market. Microsoft doesn't care what platform its money
makers run on. If you want to run SQL Server on Linux, fine. Send money
for the editions other than Express.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/linux/sql-server-linux-faq?view=sql-
server-ver16

You want a Linux instance on Azure? Great. Can we interest you in our
version?

On 2024-10-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-10-21 10:48 a.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 10/21/2024 10:13 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-20 10:50 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>> <vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
>>>>> always interesting.  Most of them are pro-Linux of course.
>>>>
>>>> Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
>>>> Windows is "Linux on the desktop".
>>>>
>>>> I know that must eat at you...
>>>
>>> Absolutely none of that makes any kind of sense.
>>
>>
>> He's referring to Windows Subsystem for Linux.
>>
>> Bloaty thinks MS adding it as a feature bothers me and is a victory for
>> Linux.  He forgets Microsoft has had a *nix component available
>> continuously for Windows for 25 years.
>>
>> Rather than bother me, I'm glad MS made it so easy to run a
>> high-performing Linux distro alongside Windows.
>>
>>
>> $ wsl --list --online
>> The following is a list of valid distributions that can be installed.
>> Install using 'wsl.exe --install <Distro>'.
>>
>> NAME                            FRIENDLY NAME
>> Ubuntu                          Ubuntu
>> Debian                          Debian GNU/Linux
>> kali-linux                      Kali Linux Rolling
>> Ubuntu-18.04                    Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
>> Ubuntu-20.04                    Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
>> Ubuntu-22.04                    Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
>> Ubuntu-24.04                    Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
>> OracleLinux_7_9                 Oracle Linux 7.9
>> OracleLinux_8_7                 Oracle Linux 8.7
>> OracleLinux_9_1                 Oracle Linux 9.1
>> openSUSE-Leap-15.6              openSUSE Leap 15.6
>> SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP5    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP5
>> SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP6    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP6
>> openSUSE-Tumbleweed             openSUSE Tumbleweed
>>
>>
>> And you can create and distribute your own WSL distros.
>
> The Linux desktop environment won't have any kind of a victory until
> companies willingly sell it in stores and actually make a profit. Until
> then, it'll be niche. It works well, it's pretty, but it remains niche.

A gigantic "niche."

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-22 3:44 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-10-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-10-21 10:48 a.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 10/21/2024 10:13 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-20 10:50 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:22:17 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>>> <vf3anm$f7na$3@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/08VbexhJO4Y?t=23
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The comments on this vid about why people moved to Linux or not are
>>>>>> always interesting.  Most of them are pro-Linux of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hate to break the news to you, but if you have Windows, part of
>>>>> Windows is "Linux on the desktop".
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that must eat at you...
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely none of that makes any kind of sense.
>>>
>>>
>>> He's referring to Windows Subsystem for Linux.
>>>
>>> Bloaty thinks MS adding it as a feature bothers me and is a victory for
>>> Linux.  He forgets Microsoft has had a *nix component available
>>> continuously for Windows for 25 years.
>>>
>>> Rather than bother me, I'm glad MS made it so easy to run a
>>> high-performing Linux distro alongside Windows.
>>>
>>>
>>> $ wsl --list --online
>>> The following is a list of valid distributions that can be installed.
>>> Install using 'wsl.exe --install <Distro>'.
>>>
>>> NAME                            FRIENDLY NAME
>>> Ubuntu                          Ubuntu
>>> Debian                          Debian GNU/Linux
>>> kali-linux                      Kali Linux Rolling
>>> Ubuntu-18.04                    Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
>>> Ubuntu-20.04                    Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
>>> Ubuntu-22.04                    Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
>>> Ubuntu-24.04                    Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
>>> OracleLinux_7_9                 Oracle Linux 7.9
>>> OracleLinux_8_7                 Oracle Linux 8.7
>>> OracleLinux_9_1                 Oracle Linux 9.1
>>> openSUSE-Leap-15.6              openSUSE Leap 15.6
>>> SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP5    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP5
>>> SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP6    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP6
>>> openSUSE-Tumbleweed             openSUSE Tumbleweed
>>>
>>>
>>> And you can create and distribute your own WSL distros.
>>
>> The Linux desktop environment won't have any kind of a victory until
>> companies willingly sell it in stores and actually make a profit. Until
>> then, it'll be niche. It works well, it's pretty, but it remains niche.
>
> A gigantic "niche."

No, a small niche. It doesn't rule the tablet world, iOS does. It
doesn't rule the phone world, Android does (simply because they offer
both cheap and expensive handsets). They don't rule the desktop, Windows
does.

It can be argued that the mere fact that Android uses the Linux kernel
means that Linux won. However, people here have trouble deciding whether
Android is Linux or not. Since people use the environment atop Linux
exclusively, it shouldn't be factored in as a Linux machine.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:14:08 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> It doesn't rule the tablet world, iOS does.

Only if you draw a hard and fast distinction between “phone” and “tablet”.
Remember, Android invented the concept of the “phablet”, which was larger
than a typical phone, but smaller than a typical tablet. Because only
Android has a UI engine that intelligently adapts to different screen
sizes and resolutions.

> They don't rule the desktop, Windows does.

And Windows does not rule the workstation, Linux does.

> It can be argued that the mere fact that Android uses the Linux kernel
> means that Linux won. However, people here have trouble deciding
> whether Android is Linux or not.

It’s a true Linux kernel, there’s no disputing that. It’s not a
conventional Linux distro, that too is true.

Maybe that just means it’s not a traditional “*nix” system, like, for
example, the BSDs -- something “desktop”-oriented that is almost, but not
quite, entirely unlike Microsoft Windows. So the logical conclusion is
that “Linux” is more than just “*nix”.

On 2024-10-22 5:20 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:14:08 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> It doesn't rule the tablet world, iOS does.
>
> Only if you draw a hard and fast distinction between “phone” and “tablet”.
> Remember, Android invented the concept of the “phablet”, which was larger
> than a typical phone, but smaller than a typical tablet. Because only
> Android has a UI engine that intelligently adapts to different screen
> sizes and resolutions.

I've owned products from both Android manufacturers and Apple and I have
yet to see Android behave like anything more than a clunky version of
iOS. Additionally, every tablet is different and every phone is
different. The result is that if you learned how to use the system on
hardware manufactured by one company, chances are the experience will be
entirely different on hardware manufactured by the other. Sure, you can
get used to it rather quickly, but it's not as consistent as Apple's is.
iOS also makes it _simple_ to use the advanced features of your phone.
Most Android users don't even know that they have features because the
manufacturers and the OS do a terrible job of informing you about them
or teaching you how to use them. That's why an Apple user today will
still be one in twenty years and Android users usually choose that
system merely because "it's not Apple."

>> They don't rule the desktop, Windows does.
>
> And Windows does not rule the workstation, Linux does.

Provide evidence for this claim.

>> It can be argued that the mere fact that Android uses the Linux kernel
>> means that Linux won. However, people here have trouble deciding
>> whether Android is Linux or not.
>
> It’s a true Linux kernel, there’s no disputing that. It’s not a
> conventional Linux distro, that too is true.
>
> Maybe that just means it’s not a traditional “*nix” system, like, for
> example, the BSDs -- something “desktop”-oriented that is almost, but not
> quite, entirely unlike Microsoft Windows. So the logical conclusion is
> that “Linux” is more than just “*nix”.

So you've decided that Android is indeed Linux?

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:47:36 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> I've owned products from both Android manufacturers and Apple and I have
> yet to see Android behave like anything more than a clunky version of
> iOS.

You didn’t notice that Android did multitasking from the beginning,
instead of trying to add multiple Morse-code-encoded functions to a single
button?

>> And Windows does not rule the workstation, Linux does.
>
> Provide evidence for this claim.

Workstation-type functionality, like advanced network and filesystem
stacks, only available as standard on Linux, not Windows.

On 2024-10-22 8:04 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:47:36 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> I've owned products from both Android manufacturers and Apple and I have
>> yet to see Android behave like anything more than a clunky version of
>> iOS.
>
> You didn’t notice that Android did multitasking from the beginning,
> instead of trying to add multiple Morse-code-encoded functions to a single
> button?

I had an early Android device. The multitasking on it was no better than
what iOS was offering. Even if it might have theoretically worked, it
provided no advantage whatsoever to an iOS device. Additionally, Android
was a clunky, embarrassing mess back then.

>>> And Windows does not rule the workstation, Linux does.
>>
>> Provide evidence for this claim.
>
> Workstation-type functionality, like advanced network and filesystem
> stacks, only available as standard on Linux, not Windows.

So you have no evidence but feel comfortable making baseless claims.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:29:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> On 2024-10-22 8:04 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:47:36 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> I've owned products from both Android manufacturers and Apple and I
>>> have yet to see Android behave like anything more than a clunky
>>> version of iOS.
>>
>> You didn’t notice that Android did multitasking from the beginning,
>> instead of trying to add multiple Morse-code-encoded functions to a
>> single button?
>
> I had an early Android device. The multitasking on it was no better than
> what iOS was offering.

IOS couldn’t even do background tasks. Android could, right from the
beginning.

>> Workstation-type functionality, like advanced network and filesystem
>> stacks, only available as standard on Linux, not Windows.
>
> So you have no evidence but feel comfortable making baseless claims.

Read all about it: <https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/networking/iproute2>,
<https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/198590/what-is-a-bind-mount>.