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Subject: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
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Democrats post-2016 election were all in on election denial.

Donald Trump cheated. The Russians did it. Hacking! Donald Trump is an
illegitimate president! Hillary even said the election was stolen, and
nearly every Democrat claimed that Trump didn't win the election.

Prior to the 2020 elections, we heard warnings put out in stentorian tones
about how voting machines could be hacked (they can, easily), and that
people should be prepared for election tampering.

Then Joe Biden was declared the winner in 2020, and challenging elections
was tantamount to treason. Election "denialism" is one of the great sins
of which Donald Trump and all Republicans are accused. It is a threat to
democracy itself to express any doubts about the results of an election.

It is a mystery why anybody WOULD question our elections, after all.
Banning voter ID, suing to stop taking illegal aliens off the voter rolls,
and fighting against hand-counting ballots is perfectly normal and
understandable. Why would anybody want to impose the very same election
integrity tools that almost every First-world country uses? Trust the
system!

Except now that Kamala Harris is in danger of losing--all signs point to
yes on that point--the specter of election tampering is being raised again
by Democrats.

You sorta expect it of Democrat flaks and politicians; they are paid liars
who will use any hoax to get an advantage. Every single thing they say
these days is a lie, with the exception of a few decent commentators and
even politicians. But when Anne Applebaum of the venerable and now
insanely anti-Trump The Atlantic starts talking about Trump rigging the
election, I can't figure out whether to laugh or cry.

Honestly, it is really deranged.

This time, we are living in a much different world. The predictions of
what might happen on November 5 and in the days that follow are not based
on rumors. On the contrary, we can be absolutely certain that an attempt
will be made to steal the 2024 election if Kamala Harris wins. Trump
himself has repeatedly refused to acknowledge the results of the 2020
election. He has waffled on and evaded questions about whether he will
accept the outcome in 2024. He has hired lawyers to prepare to challenge
the results.

Trump also has a lot more help this time around from his own party.
Strange things are happening in state legislatures: a West Virginia
proposal to �not recognize an illegitimate presidential election� (which
could be read as meaning not recognize the results if a Democrat wins); a
last-minute push, ultimately unsuccessful, to change the way Nebraska
allocates its electoral votes. Equally weird things are happening in state
election boards. Georgia�s has passed a rule requiring that all ballots be
hand-counted, as well as machine-counted, which, if not overturned, will
introduce errors�machines are more accurate�and make the process take much
longer. A number of county election boards have in recent elections tried
refusing to certify votes, not least because many are now populated with
actual election deniers, who believe that frustrating the will of the
people is their proper role. Multiple people and groups are also seeking
mass purges of the electoral rolls.

Just to be clear, Democrats challenge the results all the time, and they
have many more lawyers who specialize in this. To point to having lawyers
ready as an attempt to steal the election is rich. I bet Anne is quite
familiar with Marc Elias and his shenanigans. He is so scummy that some
Democrats have shied away from him.

As for how Trump might steal the election post-counting, Applebaum has
deployed a very vivid imagination. In fact, Democrats have already said
that they WILL challenge a Trump victory in Congress, and have been
pushing for many a Constitutional "reform" to remake our entire federal
system.

Kamala Harris has been an election denier, and will be one of the people
certifying the election results. Will she do it if she loses? Who knows,
but Applebaum doesn't care to ask.

I can't tell whether these people believe their own BS or not. Are they
just jacking up the fear, as they have ever since Trump got elected? Or
are they so brainwashed that they believe this tripe?

Applebaum lives in her East Coast liberal bubble, so I suspect she
believes it. She fears that scary Christians are going to rise up and
commit massacres or some such idiocy. As Venezuelan gangs roam our
streets, she spends time worrying that Christian nationalists are joining
militias to install Trump as Dictator-for-Life.

It's absurd, but these fantasies have inspired not one but TWO
assassination attempts on the former president. Mark Halperin is likely
right that a Trump victory will create the single-largest mental health
crisis in American history. We have been building up to it, and liberals
already are primed. Look at how COVID deranged them. Look at gender
ideology. Look at Trump Derangement Syndrome.

The groundwork is there. Left-wing violence is already on the upswing.
Imagine what might happen if Trump pulls this out, as it increasingly
seems like he will.

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/10/16/democrats-reembrace-election-
denial-n3795885

Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
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Shoot antifa this time <no@mercy.com> wrote in
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> Democrats post-2016 election were all in on election denial.
>
Nah, Dems didn't storm the Capital. Didn't lose 59 court cases, etc.

Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
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Baxter wrote:
> Dems didn't storm the Capital.

But Ray Epps and his false flag Feds did.
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Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
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Shoot antifa this time wrote:
> Left-wing violence is already on the upswing.
> Imagine what might happen if Trump pulls this out, as it increasingly
> seems like he will.

Not going to happen.

Disinformation.
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Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
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Pierre Delecto Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>Baxter wrote:
>
>> Dems didn't storm the Capital.
>
>But Ray Epps and his false flag Feds did.

Right-wing media strikes again ...

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
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Joel wrote:
> Pierre Delecto Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>> Baxter wrote:
>>
>>> Dems didn't storm the Capital.
>>
>> But Ray Epps and his false flag Feds did.
>
>
> Right-wing media strikes again ...
>
Left wing liars try and paper history over:

https://youtu.be/5KWotzO4csU

A man targeted by right-wing conspiracy theories about the U.S. Capitol
riot was sentenced on Tuesday to a year of probation for joining the
Jan. 6, 2021, attack

https://youtu.be/nAsvV92t5GA

bry77008
9 months ago
Epps was also caught on his cell phone bragging to his nephew that he
started the whole J6 thing....

@dianavaldez3371
9 months ago
He was on the wanted list, then removed from the wanted list, then left
to roam the country, while others have been in lockdown for years. He
was an asset.

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Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
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Pierre Delecto Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>> Pierre Delecto Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>>> Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dems didn't storm the Capital.
>>>
>>> But Ray Epps and his false flag Feds did.
>>
>> Right-wing media strikes again ...
>>
>Left wing liars try and paper history over:
>
>
>https://youtu.be/5KWotzO4csU
>
>A man targeted by right-wing conspiracy theories about the U.S. Capitol
>riot was sentenced on Tuesday to a year of probation for joining the
>Jan. 6, 2021, attack
>
>https://youtu.be/nAsvV92t5GA
>
>bry77008
>9 months ago
>Epps was also caught on his cell phone bragging to his nephew that he
>started the whole J6 thing....
>
>@dianavaldez3371
>9 months ago
>He was on the wanted list, then removed from the wanted list, then left
>to roam the country, while others have been in lockdown for years. He
>was an asset.

Imbecile, people died that day, even someone who was a rioter, and
it's tragic in any of these cases, people have lost their livelihoods
and freedom for this shit, you apologizing for it is sick. Fuck you.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
From: Pierre Delecto Romne
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Joel wrote:
> Pierre Delecto Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>> Pierre Delecto Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>>>> Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dems didn't storm the Capital.
>>>>
>>>> But Ray Epps and his false flag Feds did.
>>>
>>> Right-wing media strikes again ...
>>>
>> Left wing liars try and paper history over:
>>
>>
>> https://youtu.be/5KWotzO4csU
>>
>> A man targeted by right-wing conspiracy theories about the U.S. Capitol
>> riot was sentenced on Tuesday to a year of probation for joining the
>> Jan. 6, 2021, attack
>>
>> https://youtu.be/nAsvV92t5GA
>>
>> bry77008
>> 9 months ago
>> Epps was also caught on his cell phone bragging to his nephew that he
>> started the whole J6 thing....
>>
>> @dianavaldez3371
>> 9 months ago
>> He was on the wanted list, then removed from the wanted list, then left
>> to roam the country, while others have been in lockdown for years. He
>> was an asset.
>
>
> Imbecile, people died that day,

Yes, some scumbag DC cop shot Air force veteran Ashli Babbit in the face
through a glass security door.

https://www.axios.com/2021/08/12/trump-ashli-babbitt-justice-call

"I spoke to the wonderful mother and husband of Ashli Babbitt, who was
murdered at the hands of someone who should have never pulled the
trigger of his gun," Trump said in an emailed statement to news outlets
calling for "justice."

"If this happened to the 'other side,' there would be riots all over
America, and yet there are far more people represented by Ashli, who
truly loved America, than there are on the other side."

> even someone who was a rioter,

There was no "riot".

An no LE personnel lost their lives in this event - just none.

> and it's tragic in any of these cases, people have lost their livelihoods
> and freedom for this shit,

Yes, we have political prisoners held still in a cruel DC gulag while
Ray Epps skates with probation, you fascist traitor!

> you apologizing for it is sick.

I would never apologize for Ray Eps and his feds goon squad.

> Fuck you.

Bring it!
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Subject: Re: Democrats (Re)Embrace Election Denial
From: Baxter
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Pierre Delecto Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote in news:veri5g$2rgsb$4
@dont-email.me:

> Baxter wrote:
>> Dems didn't storm the Capital.
>
> But Ray Epps and his false flag Feds did.

J6 was tRump followers one and all - including some of the masterminds that
didn't take part in the assault.

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Baxter wrote:
> J6 was tRump followers one and all

Nope - Feds in dressup primarily.
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