On 10/17/24 5:00 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <verr9t$2squh$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 10/17/24 12:36 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vere5c$2q4h9$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/17/24 9:51 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <ver1fr$2ohqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/16/24 8:27 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <veph2p$2ejus$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/16/24 6:10 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <6710329b$1$2385545$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my drift.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pun intended.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mad?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a waste of energy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
>>>>>>>>>>> motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
>>>>>>>>>>> to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
>>>>>>>>>>> upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you have a signifiant
>>>>>>>>>> issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
>>>>>>>>>>>> saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's something you seem unable to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
>>>>>>>>>>> data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that I am somehow
>>>>>>>>>> responsible for Carroll's flood bot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
>>>>>>>>>>>> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
>>>>>>>>>>> Case in point:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
>>>>>>>>>>> know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
>>>>>>>>>>> of the way there by another metric.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle down. Trump's
>>>>>>>>>> work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor did the
>>>>>>>>>> pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine. Or Israel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was better off when Trump was in office.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By what measure?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying
>>>>>>>>>>>> that message so he stopped promoting it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer running, Harris
>>>>>>>>>>> has emphasized different top messaging points.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but this time
>>>>>>>>>>> from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's "WIN" (Whip
>>>>>>>>>>> Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real wages
>>>>>>>>>>> catch up?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wages have not come close to keeping close with productivity. Used to be a CEO
>>>>>>>>>> made 40x the average worker. Now it is several hundred times.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The CEO:worker pay ratio shows the increasing wealth concentration at
>>>>>>>> the top, which is decreasing the prosperity of the US middle class, for
>>>>>>>> higher CEO pay means less for the rank & file, which is why more middle
>>>>>>>> class households are failing instead of rising up. It is the inevitable
>>>>>>>> outcome of the GOP's "Trickle-Down" economics starting from Reagan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I couls afford to do stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what you're saying is that you lost your job due to CoVid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or are you saying that you've not gotten raises, either because your
>>>>>> employer has not been kept up with the national average for wage
>>>>>> increases, or didn't think you were worth paying more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or did you (or spouse) retire, so your income has dropped from that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or are you just complaining that you're getting old and can't physically
>>>>>> go out boozing every weekend? /s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YMMV, but my hourly rate has soared, such that I don't need to work long
>>>>>> hours anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crime wasn't as bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting claim, because National crime statistics show that most
>>>>>> crime rates have continued to go down, despite the public's false
>>>>>> perception that things aren't getting better:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Using the FBI data, the violent crime rate fell 49% between 1993 and
>>>>>> 2022, with large decreases in the rates of robbery (-74%), aggravated
>>>>>> assault (-39%) and murder/nonnegligent manslaughter (-34%)."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TL;DR: half as bad as it used to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus said, there have been changes in opportunistic nonviolent property
>>>>>> theft, such as stealing FedEx deliveries, washing checks stolen from the
>>>>>> mail, etc, but property crime still been trending down over time:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate
>>>>>> between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary
>>>>>> (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%)."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ibid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what evidence do you have of crime being "worse": is it merely your
>>>>>> personal perception? Or true for just your highly localized region?
>>>>>> Because on a National macro level, the claim does not ring true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>
>>>>> Moron.
>>>>
>>>> Translation: Nailed It.
>>>>
>>>> So what was your career path before CoVid ruined it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>>
>>> I was already retired. What does that have to do with you being a moron?
>>
>> Oh, so then what you're really saying is that you failed on your own
>> retirement planning to take inflation into account.
>
> I never said any of that liar.

On 10/18/24 7:59 AM, -hh wrote:
> On 10/17/24 5:18 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> In article <vers8u$2squh$3@dont-email.me>,
>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>
>>> On 10/17/24 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Additionally China is build coal plants as fast as they can.
>>>> Wonder why that is.
>>>> duh.
>>>
>>> I've already explained the reason why to you guys.
>>>
>>> Since you're getting even more senile, re-read the archives.
>>>
>> You never explained shit to me. Pothead isn't a guy. Get your shit
>> straight before you judge.
>
>
> Fun Fact:
>
> Posts to a USENET forum are public, going out to all readers.
>
>
> ...and from a colloquial perspective, "guys" isn't gender specific.

Oh, look: its even more than just colloquial.

From a 2021 report:

[quote]
‘Guys’ isn’t a gendered word anymore. It’s fine to use with everyone.
....
One of the problems with dismissing the word guys as inherently
masculine is that it assumes that the gendering of language is fixed —
that the meaning we make of things now is the meaning they’ve always had
and always will. But clearly that’s not true. In fact, guys comes from
the burned effigies of England’s 17th-century would-be bomber Guy
Fawkes, which were called “guys,” and then came to be applied to every
lowlife fellow, and eventually to males altogether. But by the middle of
the 20th century, women began using it too, as a generic, plural form of
“you.” In other words, women themselves helped make “guys” gender-neutral.

[/quote]

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/07/07/guys-defense-gendered-etymology/>

TL;DR: you may live way in the boonies, but as per the above reporting,
you're a half century out of date. Please do try to keep up.

-hh

>
>
> Jesus, you're a stupid fuck.  Cry harder, snowflake.
>
>
> -hh

In article <vetjvd$39sr8$1@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 10/17/24 5:00 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <verr9t$2squh$1@dont-email.me>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>
> >> On 10/17/24 12:36 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vere5c$2q4h9$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/17/24 9:51 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <ver1fr$2ohqk$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/16/24 8:27 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <veph2p$2ejus$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/16/24 6:10 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <6710329b$1$2385545$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my drift.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pun intended.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mad?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hardly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's a waste of energy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
> >>>>>>>>>>> motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
> >>>>>>>>>>> to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
> >>>>>>>>>>> upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you have a signifiant
> >>>>>>>>>> issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> saying.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That's something you seem unable to do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
> >>>>>>>>>>> data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that I am somehow
> >>>>>>>>>> responsible for Carroll's flood bot.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
> >>>>>>>>>>>> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And that is a fact.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Case in point:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
> >>>>>>>>>>> know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
> >>>>>>>>>>> of the way there by another metric.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle down. Trump's
> >>>>>>>>>> work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor did the
> >>>>>>>>>> pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine. Or Israel.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I was better off when Trump was in office.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> By what measure?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that message so he stopped promoting it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer running, Harris
> >>>>>>>>>>> has emphasized different top messaging points.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
> >>>>>>>>>>>> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but this time
> >>>>>>>>>>> from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's "WIN" (Whip
> >>>>>>>>>>> Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real wages
> >>>>>>>>>>> catch up?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Wages have not come close to keeping close with productivity. Used to be a CEO
> >>>>>>>>>> made 40x the average worker. Now it is several hundred times.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The CEO:worker pay ratio shows the increasing wealth concentration at
> >>>>>>>> the top, which is decreasing the prosperity of the US middle class, for
> >>>>>>>> higher CEO pay means less for the rank & file, which is why more middle
> >>>>>>>> class households are failing instead of rising up. It is the inevitable
> >>>>>>>> outcome of the GOP's "Trickle-Down" economics starting from Reagan.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I couls afford to do stuff.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So what you're saying is that you lost your job due to CoVid?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or are you saying that you've not gotten raises, either because your
> >>>>>> employer has not been kept up with the national average for wage
> >>>>>> increases, or didn't think you were worth paying more?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or did you (or spouse) retire, so your income has dropped from that?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or are you just complaining that you're getting old and can't physically
> >>>>>> go out boozing every weekend? /s
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> YMMV, but my hourly rate has soared, such that I don't need to work long
> >>>>>> hours anymore.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Crime wasn't as bad.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Interesting claim, because National crime statistics show that most
> >>>>>> crime rates have continued to go down, despite the public's false
> >>>>>> perception that things aren't getting better:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Using the FBI data, the violent crime rate fell 49% between 1993 and
> >>>>>> 2022, with large decreases in the rates of robbery (-74%), aggravated
> >>>>>> assault (-39%) and murder/nonnegligent manslaughter (-34%)."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> TL;DR: half as bad as it used to be.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thus said, there have been changes in opportunistic nonviolent property
> >>>>>> theft, such as stealing FedEx deliveries, washing checks stolen from the
> >>>>>> mail, etc, but property crime still been trending down over time:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate
> >>>>>> between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary
> >>>>>> (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%)."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Ibid
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So what evidence do you have of crime being "worse": is it merely your
> >>>>>> personal perception? Or true for just your highly localized region?
> >>>>>> Because on a National macro level, the claim does not ring true.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Moron.
> >>>>
> >>>> Translation: Nailed It.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what was your career path before CoVid ruined it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -hh
> >>>
> >>> I was already retired. What does that have to do with you being a moron?
> >>
> >> Oh, so then what you're really saying is that you failed on your own
> >> retirement planning to take inflation into account.

On 10/18/24 10:26 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vetjvd$39sr8$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 10/17/24 5:00 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <verr9t$2squh$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/17/24 12:36 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vere5c$2q4h9$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/17/24 9:51 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <ver1fr$2ohqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/16/24 8:27 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <veph2p$2ejus$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/16/24 6:10 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <6710329b$1$2385545$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my drift.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pun intended.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mad?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a waste of energy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you have a signifiant
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's something you seem unable to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that I am somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for Carroll's flood bot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Case in point:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the way there by another metric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle down. Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>> work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor did the
>>>>>>>>>>>> pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine. Or Israel.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was better off when Trump was in office.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By what measure?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that message so he stopped promoting it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer running, Harris
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has emphasized different top messaging points.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but this time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's "WIN" (Whip
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real wages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> catch up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wages have not come close to keeping close with productivity. Used to be a CEO
>>>>>>>>>>>> made 40x the average worker. Now it is several hundred times.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The CEO:worker pay ratio shows the increasing wealth concentration at
>>>>>>>>>> the top, which is decreasing the prosperity of the US middle class, for
>>>>>>>>>> higher CEO pay means less for the rank & file, which is why more middle
>>>>>>>>>> class households are failing instead of rising up. It is the inevitable
>>>>>>>>>> outcome of the GOP's "Trickle-Down" economics starting from Reagan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I couls afford to do stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what you're saying is that you lost your job due to CoVid?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or are you saying that you've not gotten raises, either because your
>>>>>>>> employer has not been kept up with the national average for wage
>>>>>>>> increases, or didn't think you were worth paying more?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or did you (or spouse) retire, so your income has dropped from that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or are you just complaining that you're getting old and can't physically
>>>>>>>> go out boozing every weekend? /s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> YMMV, but my hourly rate has soared, such that I don't need to work long
>>>>>>>> hours anymore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Crime wasn't as bad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interesting claim, because National crime statistics show that most
>>>>>>>> crime rates have continued to go down, despite the public's false
>>>>>>>> perception that things aren't getting better:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Using the FBI data, the violent crime rate fell 49% between 1993 and
>>>>>>>> 2022, with large decreases in the rates of robbery (-74%), aggravated
>>>>>>>> assault (-39%) and murder/nonnegligent manslaughter (-34%)."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TL;DR: half as bad as it used to be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thus said, there have been changes in opportunistic nonviolent property
>>>>>>>> theft, such as stealing FedEx deliveries, washing checks stolen from the
>>>>>>>> mail, etc, but property crime still been trending down over time:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate
>>>>>>>> between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary
>>>>>>>> (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%)."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Ibid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what evidence do you have of crime being "worse": is it merely your
>>>>>>>> personal perception? Or true for just your highly localized region?
>>>>>>>> Because on a National macro level, the claim does not ring true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Translation: Nailed It.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what was your career path before CoVid ruined it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>
>>>>> I was already retired. What does that have to do with you being a moron?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, so then what you're really saying is that you failed on your own
>>>> retirement planning to take inflation into account.
>
> I didn't admit to anything. Typical liberal putting words in my mouth.

In article <vetij7$39q0d$1@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 10/17/24 5:18 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vers8u$2squh$3@dont-email.me>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>
> >> On 10/17/24 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> Additionally China is build coal plants as fast as they can.
> >>> Wonder why that is.
> >>> duh.
> >>
> >> I've already explained the reason why to you guys.
> >>
> >> Since you're getting even more senile, re-read the archives.
> >>
> > You never explained shit to me. Pothead isn't a guy. Get your shit
> > straight before you judge.
>
>
> Fun Fact:
>
> Posts to a USENET forum are public, going out to all readers.
>
>
> ...and from a colloquial perspective, "guys" isn't gender specific.
>
>
> Jesus, you're a stupid fuck. Cry harder, snowflake.
>
>
> -hh

Oh so you steal the "snowflake" from us and use it. Nothing original.

In article <vetlf8$39sr8$2@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 10/18/24 7:59 AM, -hh wrote:
> > On 10/17/24 5:18 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >> In article <vers8u$2squh$3@dont-email.me>,
> >> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On 10/17/24 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>> Additionally China is build coal plants as fast as they can.
> >>>> Wonder why that is.
> >>>> duh.
> >>>
> >>> I've already explained the reason why to you guys.
> >>>
> >>> Since you're getting even more senile, re-read the archives.
> >>>
> >> You never explained shit to me. Pothead isn't a guy. Get your shit
> >> straight before you judge.
> >
> >
> > Fun Fact:
> >
> > Posts to a USENET forum are public, going out to all readers.
> >
> >
> > ...and from a colloquial perspective, "guys" isn't gender specific.
>
> Oh, look: its even more than just colloquial.
>
> From a 2021 report:
>
> [quote]
> ?Guys? isn?t a gendered word anymore. It?s fine to use with everyone.
> ...
> One of the problems with dismissing the word guys as inherently
> masculine is that it assumes that the gendering of language is fixed ?
> that the meaning we make of things now is the meaning they?ve always had
> and always will. But clearly that?s not true. In fact, guys comes from
> the burned effigies of England?s 17th-century would-be bomber Guy
> Fawkes, which were called ?guys,? and then came to be applied to every
> lowlife fellow, and eventually to males altogether. But by the middle of
> the 20th century, women began using it too, as a generic, plural form of
> ?you.? In other words, women themselves helped make ?guys? gender-neutral.
>
> [/quote]
>
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/07/07/guys-defense-gendered-etymology/>
>
> TL;DR: you may live way in the boonies, but as per the above reporting,
> you're a half century out of date. Please do try to keep up.
>
>
> -hh
>
> >
> >
> > Jesus, you're a stupid fuck.  Cry harder, snowflake.
> >
> >
> > -hh

I made you respond to your own post. Obsessed much?

In article <vetsqo$3bg55$1@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> Yet gas is still not 2x what it was before CoVid. Nor are groceries.

Do you admit prices are higher? Yes when Trump was in office i was
paying less than 2 bucks a gallon.
>
> Your claims have been debunked by the facts, and for you to try to blame
> the messenger instead of yourself for being wrong is pathetically lame.

Whatever. What you call facts is only bullshit put out there to make the
people happy. I do the shopping. I know what is going on.
>

On Oct 18, 2024 at 8:23:52 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<67127d6f$1$1781$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <vetsqo$3bg55$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>> Yet gas is still not 2x what it was before CoVid. Nor are groceries.
>
> Do you admit prices are higher? Yes when Trump was in office i was
> paying less than 2 bucks a gallon.

Covid. Ukraine. Israel. Corporate greed. Trump redistributing money to the
very rich. These things hurt the economy badly.
>>
>> Your claims have been debunked by the facts, and for you to try to blame
>> the messenger instead of yourself for being wrong is pathetically lame.
>
> Whatever.

That is the right wing response to evidence: whatever.

You focus on emotions... those on the left TEND to focus on evidence and equal
rights more.

> What you call facts is only bullshit put out there to make the
> people happy. I do the shopping. I know what is going on.

Unsupported accusation based on your emotional state.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
news:vers6c$2squh$2@dont-email.me...
> On 10/17/24 12:44 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> news:vere4d$2q4h9$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 10/17/24 10:38 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>> "-hh" wrote:
>>>>> On 10/16/24 5:20 PM, troll Pierre Delecto Romney wrote:
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> Harris isn't in the Senate anymore. And even from her time there,
>>>>>>> she was representing California, one of the most progressive States
>>>>>>> in the USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The MOST failed state in this nation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Failed...except for how California is the world's 5th largest economy.
>>>>
>>>> Great, and China is the 2nd largest economy..
>>>
>>> Behind the USA, of which California is 14%.
>>
>> Yea, and just because you have a large economy does not make you good.
>
> Of course not. Amongst other things is the context of that GDP, which is
> why one normalizes by population to find relative prosperity. China is
> ~3x the population of the USA, but it is because its GDP per Capita is so
> low ... roughly ~1/6th that of the USA ($13K vs $83K) ... that they don't
> have a comparable amount of prosperity for its population.

So.. China's economy SUCKS then?

I mean you can't tell us they have a great economy and then turn around
claim we have to look at GDP per Catpita.. because then China would have
shitty economy.

When you have a lot of people in poverty.. that doesn't mean you have a
great economy..

In article <67127eb3$1$1428338$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 18, 2024 at 8:23:52 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <67127d6f$1$1781$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <vetsqo$3bg55$1@dont-email.me>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >> Yet gas is still not 2x what it was before CoVid. Nor are groceries.
> >
> > Do you admit prices are higher? Yes when Trump was in office i was
> > paying less than 2 bucks a gallon.
>
> Covid. Ukraine. Israel. Corporate greed. Trump redistributing money to the
> very rich. These things hurt the economy badly.
> >>
> >> Your claims have been debunked by the facts, and for you to try to blame
> >> the messenger instead of yourself for being wrong is pathetically lame.
> >
> > Whatever.
>
> That is the right wing response to evidence: whatever.

and the left wing response to anything is "TRUMP".
>
> You focus on emotions... those on the left TEND to focus on evidence and equal
> rights more.

But you feel harmed bu Trump.
>
> > What you call facts is only bullshit put out there to make the
> > people happy. I do the shopping. I know what is going on.
>
> Unsupported accusation based on your emotional state.

Truth and you are to stupid to know it.

On 2024-10-18, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> In article <vetij7$39q0d$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 10/17/24 5:18 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> > In article <vers8u$2squh$3@dont-email.me>,
>> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>> >>
>> >> On 10/17/24 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>> >>> ...
>> >>> Additionally China is build coal plants as fast as they can.
>> >>> Wonder why that is.
>> >>> duh.
>> >>
>> >> I've already explained the reason why to you guys.
>> >>
>> >> Since you're getting even more senile, re-read the archives.
>> >>
>> > You never explained shit to me. Pothead isn't a guy. Get your shit
>> > straight before you judge.
>>
>>
>> Fun Fact:
>>
>> Posts to a USENET forum are public, going out to all readers.
>>
>>
>> ...and from a colloquial perspective, "guys" isn't gender specific.
>>
>>
>> Jesus, you're a stupid fuck. Cry harder, snowflake.
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Oh so you steal the "snowflake" from us and use it. Nothing original.

Typical libby.
They are good at stealing.

The use of the term "snowflake" became popular as related to politics
during the 2016 election where the libbys were out walking the streets
crying about Hillary losing and needing safe spaces in order to come to
terms with their lost election.

--
pothead

See Kamala Harris best interview ever.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363352689112
She really knocks this one out of the park.
Don't you agree?

On Oct 18, 2024 at 9:03:13 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<671286c1$1$212402$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <67127eb3$1$1428338$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2024 at 8:23:52 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <67127d6f$1$1781$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> In article <vetsqo$3bg55$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>> Yet gas is still not 2x what it was before CoVid. Nor are groceries.
>>>
>>> Do you admit prices are higher? Yes when Trump was in office i was
>>> paying less than 2 bucks a gallon.
>>
>> Covid. Ukraine. Israel. Corporate greed. Trump redistributing money to the
>> very rich. These things hurt the economy badly.
>>>>
>>>> Your claims have been debunked by the facts, and for you to try to blame
>>>> the messenger instead of yourself for being wrong is pathetically lame.
>>>
>>> Whatever.
>>
>> That is the right wing response to evidence: whatever.
>
> and the left wing response to anything is "TRUMP".

Nope. While it is true ANYONE would be better than Trump, those of us on the
left care about a lot more than that.

Liberal policies are rooted in evidence-based approaches and a commitment to
equal rights, aiming for outcomes that benefit society as a whole. For
healthcare, they focus on universal access or the like which studies show
leads to better health outcomes and lower costs.

On climate change, they look to scientific consensus that transitioning to
renewable energy reduces carbon emissions and can create millions of jobs in
clean energy industries.

Economically, raising the minimum wage and taxing the wealthy more are
supported by data showing they reduce income inequality and improve quality of
life for low- and middle-income workers.

In education, offering free public college and forgiving student loans are
based on evidence that increasing access to education leads to higher earnings
and economic mobility. Expanding early childhood education has long been
proven to improve long-term academic and social outcomes.

For civil rights, policies promoting racial justice, LGBTQ+ protections, and
reproductive rights aim to ensure equal treatment for all, leading to a
fairer, more inclusive society. Immigration reform would provide a path to
citizenship for undocumented immigrants, with research showing that
integrating immigrants strengthens the economy.

Gun control measures like universal background checks and assault weapon bans
are supported by data linking them to lower rates of gun violence. Expanding
voting rights and strengthening unions have been shown to lead to greater
civic participation and fairer wages, promoting equality across society. The
focus is on policies that create a healthier, fairer, and more just society
for all.

What do you think the right wing has to offer? Notice below you focus on
feelings and maintain your unsupported accusations.
>>
>> You focus on emotions... those on the left TEND to focus on evidence and equal
>> rights more.
>
> But you feel harmed bu Trump.
>>
>>> What you call facts is only bullshit put out there to make the
>>> people happy. I do the shopping. I know what is going on.
>>
>> Unsupported accusation based on your emotional state.
>
> Truth and you are to stupid to know it.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

-hh wrote:
> On 10/18/24 1:41 PM, Pierre Delecto Romney wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>> 10/08/2018:  $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
>>> 10/07/2024:  $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
>>
>> They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive
>> virus of a demoturd.
>>
>> And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
>> grossly under-represented.
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-
>> biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
>>
>> Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden — 13 times faster
>> than previous 7 years: analysis
>>
>> And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
>> higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.
>
> Fox lied to you.

Nope.

You are a craven liar, Huntzy.

Since January 2021, electricity prices have soared 29.4% — 50% more than
overall inflation — rising 13 times faster than the previous seven
years, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Bureau of Labor
Statistics data.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/started-going-energy-prices-soar-biden-pursues-green-agenda

The Labor Department's new Consumer Price Index (CPI) report on Tuesday
showed that gasoline and housing costs were the biggest drivers of a
0.4% increase in March. Prices climbed 3.5% from the same time last
year, higher than economists had predicted. Oil prices have reached a
five-month-high.

"There is no improvement here, we’re moving in the wrong direction,"
said Greg McBride, chief financial analyst for Bankrate.

Every driver in America knows that gasoline prices surged to exorbitant
highs in 2022, following international disruptions in oil production as
a result of war between Russia and Ukraine. Prices have since come down,
but overall gas still costs 52.1% more today than when Biden became
president. On Jan. 18, 2021, the average price per gallon of gas was
$2.38, and today it is $3.62, according to data from the _Energy
Information Administration_.

Diesel prices tell a similar story, increasing 50.4% over the last three
years, from $2.70 per gallon in January 2021 to $4.06 per gallon today.

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

In article <veuaqu$3cf08$1@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 10/18/24 1:41 PM, Pierre Delecto Romney wrote:
> > -hh wrote:
> >> 10/08/2018:  $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
> >> 10/07/2024:  $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
> >
> > They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive virus
> > of a demoturd.
> >
> > And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
> > grossly under-represented.
> >
> > https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-
> > biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
> >
> > Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden ? 13 times faster than
> > previous 7 years: analysis
> >
> > And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
> > higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.
>
> Fox lied to you.
>
> They lied because a +52% increase from $2.392/gal (week ending 1/25/21)
> is equal to $3.638/gal, whereas prices are roughly 50 cents/gal lower,
> namely either $3.136 to $3.171, depending on if Fox published as per EAI
> week ending 10/07/24 or 10/14/24.
>
> And you don't need to believe me: go check the cite & math yourself:
>
> <https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W>
>
>
>
> -hh

Do you always respond to yourself? Seeking attention?

On Oct 18, 2024 at 10:41:14 AM MST, "Pierre Delecto Romney" wrote
<veu6js$3ddiq$1@dont-email.me>:

> -hh wrote:
>> 10/08/2018: $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
>> 10/07/2024: $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
>
> They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive virus
> of a demoturd.
>
> And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
> grossly under-represented.
>
> https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
>
> Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden — 13 times faster than
> previous 7 years: analysis
>
> And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
> higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.

The pandemic reduced demand. That reduced prices. Capitalism.

Add to that the war in Ukraine has impacted MANY prices.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Oct 18, 2024 at 12:24:15 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<6712b5aa$1$2756$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <veuaqu$3cf08$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 10/18/24 1:41 PM, Pierre Delecto Romney wrote:
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> 10/08/2018: $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
>>>> 10/07/2024: $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
>>>
>>> They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive virus
>>> of a demoturd.
>>>
>>> And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
>>> grossly under-represented.
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-
>>> biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
>>>
>>> Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden ? 13 times faster than
>>> previous 7 years: analysis
>>>
>>> And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
>>> higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.
>>
>> Fox lied to you.
>>
>> They lied because a +52% increase from $2.392/gal (week ending 1/25/21)
>> is equal to $3.638/gal, whereas prices are roughly 50 cents/gal lower,
>> namely either $3.136 to $3.171, depending on if Fox published as per EAI
>> week ending 10/07/24 or 10/14/24.
>>
>> And you don't need to believe me: go check the cite & math yourself:
>>
>> <https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W>
>>
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Do you always respond to yourself? Seeking attention?

Why do you respond to facts you do not like but with nastiness instead of
staying on topic?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Oct 18, 2024 at 10:18:53 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<6712996b$2$1428050$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <67128dea$2$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2024 at 9:03:13 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <671286c1$1$212402$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> In article <67127eb3$1$1428338$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2024 at 8:23:52 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>> <67127d6f$1$1781$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <vetsqo$3bg55$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>> Yet gas is still not 2x what it was before CoVid. Nor are groceries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you admit prices are higher? Yes when Trump was in office i was
>>>>> paying less than 2 bucks a gallon.
>>>>
>>>> Covid. Ukraine. Israel. Corporate greed. Trump redistributing money to the
>>>> very rich. These things hurt the economy badly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your claims have been debunked by the facts, and for you to try to blame
>>>>>> the messenger instead of yourself for being wrong is pathetically lame.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever.
>>>>
>>>> That is the right wing response to evidence: whatever.
>>>
>>> and the left wing response to anything is "TRUMP".
>>
>> Nope. While it is true ANYONE would be better than Trump, those of us on the
>> left care about a lot more than that.
>
> No you don't. You are willing to put a buffoon in office just because
> your hate. That's YOUR feelings.

Your claim is faulty.
>>
>> Liberal policies are rooted in evidence-based approaches and a commitment to
>> equal rights, aiming for outcomes that benefit society as a whole. For
>> healthcare, they focus on universal access or the like which studies show
>> leads to better health outcomes and lower costs.
>>
>> On climate change, they look to scientific consensus that transitioning to
>> renewable energy reduces carbon emissions and can create millions of jobs in
>> clean energy industries.
>>
>> Economically, raising the minimum wage and taxing the wealthy more are
>> supported by data showing they reduce income inequality and improve quality of
>> life for low- and middle-income workers.
>>
>> In education, offering free public college and forgiving student loans are
>> based on evidence that increasing access to education leads to higher earnings
>> and economic mobility. Expanding early childhood education has long been
>> proven to improve long-term academic and social outcomes.
>>
>> For civil rights, policies promoting racial justice, LGBTQ+ protections, and
>> reproductive rights aim to ensure equal treatment for all, leading to a
>> fairer, more inclusive society. Immigration reform would provide a path to
>> citizenship for undocumented immigrants, with research showing that
>> integrating immigrants strengthens the economy.
>>
>> Gun control measures like universal background checks and assault weapon bans
>> are supported by data linking them to lower rates of gun violence. Expanding
>> voting rights and strengthening unions have been shown to lead to greater
>> civic participation and fairer wages, promoting equality across society. The
>> focus is on policies that create a healthier, fairer, and more just society
>> for all.
>>
>> What do you think the right wing has to offer? Notice below you focus on
>> feelings and maintain your unsupported accusations.
>
> They are not the left.

The things I list above are ideas promoted by the left. And it counters your
claims about feelings and about it just being about Trump. I have challenged
you to share a similar list from the right.

You, of course, failed. As you note about yourself, the right tends to focus
on emotion over evidence and equal rights.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article <6712b6ac$1$3068676$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 18, 2024 at 12:24:15 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <6712b5aa$1$2756$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <veuaqu$3cf08$1@dont-email.me>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>
> >> On 10/18/24 1:41 PM, Pierre Delecto Romney wrote:
> >>> -hh wrote:
> >>>> 10/08/2018: $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
> >>>> 10/07/2024: $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
> >>>
> >>> They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive virus
> >>> of a demoturd.
> >>>
> >>> And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
> >>> grossly under-represented.
> >>>
> >>> https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-
> >>> biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
> >>>
> >>> Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden ? 13 times faster than
> >>> previous 7 years: analysis
> >>>
> >>> And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
> >>> higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.
> >>
> >> Fox lied to you.
> >>
> >> They lied because a +52% increase from $2.392/gal (week ending 1/25/21)
> >> is equal to $3.638/gal, whereas prices are roughly 50 cents/gal lower,
> >> namely either $3.136 to $3.171, depending on if Fox published as per EAI
> >> week ending 10/07/24 or 10/14/24.
> >>
> >> And you don't need to believe me: go check the cite & math yourself:
> >>
> >> <https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -hh
> >
> > Do you always respond to yourself? Seeking attention?
>
> Why do you respond to facts you do not like but with nastiness instead of
> staying on topic?

Answer the question coward.

In article <6712b653$1$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 18, 2024 at 10:41:14 AM MST, "Pierre Delecto Romney" wrote
> <veu6js$3ddiq$1@dont-email.me>:
>
> > -hh wrote:
> >> 10/08/2018: $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
> >> 10/07/2024: $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
> >
> > They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive virus
> > of a demoturd.
> >
> > And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
> > grossly under-represented.
> >
> > https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
> >
> > Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden ? 13 times faster than
> > previous 7 years: analysis
> >
> > And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
> > higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.
>
> The pandemic reduced demand. That reduced prices. Capitalism.
>
> Add to that the war in Ukraine has impacted MANY prices.

Bullshit. What is the excuse for todays prices?

DRILL BABY DRILL

In article <6712b735$2$3825$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 18, 2024 at 10:18:53 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <6712996b$2$1428050$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <67128dea$2$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> > brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> On Oct 18, 2024 at 9:03:13 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >> <671286c1$1$212402$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>
> >>> In article <67127eb3$1$1428338$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 18, 2024 at 8:23:52 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>> <67127d6f$1$1781$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <vetsqo$3bg55$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>>> Yet gas is still not 2x what it was before CoVid. Nor are groceries.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you admit prices are higher? Yes when Trump was in office i was
> >>>>> paying less than 2 bucks a gallon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Covid. Ukraine. Israel. Corporate greed. Trump redistributing money to the
> >>>> very rich. These things hurt the economy badly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Your claims have been debunked by the facts, and for you to try to blame
> >>>>>> the messenger instead of yourself for being wrong is pathetically lame.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whatever.
> >>>>
> >>>> That is the right wing response to evidence: whatever.
> >>>
> >>> and the left wing response to anything is "TRUMP".
> >>
> >> Nope. While it is true ANYONE would be better than Trump, those of us on the
> >> left care about a lot more than that.
> >
> > No you don't. You are willing to put a buffoon in office just because
> > your hate. That's YOUR feelings.
>
> Your claim is faulty.

It's truth.
> >>
> >> Liberal policies are rooted in evidence-based approaches and a commitment to
> >> equal rights, aiming for outcomes that benefit society as a whole. For
> >> healthcare, they focus on universal access or the like which studies show
> >> leads to better health outcomes and lower costs.
> >>
> >> On climate change, they look to scientific consensus that transitioning to
> >> renewable energy reduces carbon emissions and can create millions of jobs in
> >> clean energy industries.
> >>
> >> Economically, raising the minimum wage and taxing the wealthy more are
> >> supported by data showing they reduce income inequality and improve quality of
> >> life for low- and middle-income workers.
> >>
> >> In education, offering free public college and forgiving student loans are
> >> based on evidence that increasing access to education leads to higher earnings
> >> and economic mobility. Expanding early childhood education has long been
> >> proven to improve long-term academic and social outcomes.
> >>
> >> For civil rights, policies promoting racial justice, LGBTQ+ protections, and
> >> reproductive rights aim to ensure equal treatment for all, leading to a
> >> fairer, more inclusive society. Immigration reform would provide a path to
> >> citizenship for undocumented immigrants, with research showing that
> >> integrating immigrants strengthens the economy.
> >>
> >> Gun control measures like universal background checks and assault weapon bans
> >> are supported by data linking them to lower rates of gun violence. Expanding
> >> voting rights and strengthening unions have been shown to lead to greater
> >> civic participation and fairer wages, promoting equality across society. The
> >> focus is on policies that create a healthier, fairer, and more just society
> >> for all.
> >>
> >> What do you think the right wing has to offer? Notice below you focus on
> >> feelings and maintain your unsupported accusations.
> >
> > They are not the left.
>
> The things I list above are ideas promoted by the left. And it counters your
> claims about feelings and about it just being about Trump. I have challenged
> you to share a similar list from the right.

I didn't even read it. I watched Harris and saw her meltdown. That's all
I need.
>
> You, of course, failed. As you note about yourself, the right tends to focus
> on emotion over evidence and equal rights.

I never said that. You think a man can be a woman. I would say that is
not facts.

On Oct 18, 2024 at 12:39:27 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<6712b96f$0$1895490$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <6712b653$1$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2024 at 10:41:14 AM MST, "Pierre Delecto Romney" wrote
>> <veu6js$3ddiq$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> 10/08/2018: $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
>>>> 10/07/2024: $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
>>>
>>> They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive virus
>>> of a demoturd.
>>>
>>> And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
>>> grossly under-represented.
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
>>>
>>> Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden ? 13 times faster than
>>> previous 7 years: analysis
>>>
>>> And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
>>> higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.
>>
>> The pandemic reduced demand. That reduced prices. Capitalism.
>>
>> Add to that the war in Ukraine has impacted MANY prices.
>
> Bullshit. What is the excuse for todays prices?
>
> DRILL BABY DRILL

Gas prices are currently high for several reasons. First, as economies bounce
back from COVID-19, demand for oil has surged, while OPEC+ manages supply by
sometimes restricting production, keeping prices elevated. Geopolitical
tensions also play a role; the war in Ukraine has disrupted energy markets,
especially with sanctions on Russia impacting global supply, and instability
in other oil-producing regions adds to these concerns. Additionally, rising
costs across various sectors, including transportation and labor, contribute
to higher gas prices, as overall inflation affects energy costs. Seasonal
maintenance or unplanned outages at refineries can limit gasoline production,
further tightening supplies and increasing prices. The summer driving season
also drives up demand as more travelers hit the road. Market speculation about
future oil supply and demand can lead to price increases as investors react to
these perceptions.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Oct 18, 2024 at 12:38:36 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<6712b93d$0$1895495$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>> Why do you respond to facts you do not like but with nastiness instead of
>> staying on topic?
>
> Answer the question coward.

You failed to. I accept this makes you a coward.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Oct 18, 2024 at 12:41:37 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<6712b9f2$1$1895503$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> I didn't even read it.

What you ran from -- you prefer ignorance:

Liberal policies are rooted in evidence-based approaches and a commitment to
equal rights, aiming for outcomes that benefit society as a whole. For
healthcare, they focus on universal access or the like which studies show
leads to better health outcomes and lower costs.

On climate change, they look to scientific consensus that transitioning to
renewable energy reduces carbon emissions and can create millions of jobs in
clean energy industries.

Economically, raising the minimum wage and taxing the wealthy more are
supported by data showing they reduce income inequality and improve quality of
life for low- and middle-income workers.

In education, offering free public college and forgiving student loans are
based on evidence that increasing access to education leads to higher earnings
and economic mobility. Expanding early childhood education has long been
proven to improve long-term academic and social outcomes.

For civil rights, policies promoting racial justice, LGBTQ+ protections, and
reproductive rights aim to ensure equal treatment for all, leading to a
fairer, more inclusive society. Immigration reform would provide a path to
citizenship for undocumented immigrants, with research showing that
integrating immigrants strengthens the economy.

Gun control measures like universal background checks and assault weapon bans
are supported by data linking them to lower rates of gun violence. Expanding
voting rights and strengthening unions have been shown to lead to greater
civic participation and fairer wages, promoting equality across society. The
focus is on policies that create a healthier, fairer, and more just society
for all.

What do you think the right wing has to offer?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article <6712baa2$1$3834$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 18, 2024 at 12:39:27 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <6712b96f$0$1895490$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <6712b653$1$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> > brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> On Oct 18, 2024 at 10:41:14 AM MST, "Pierre Delecto Romney" wrote
> >> <veu6js$3ddiq$1@dont-email.me>:
> >>
> >>> -hh wrote:
> >>>> 10/08/2018: $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
> >>>> 10/07/2024: $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
> >>>
> >>> They spend the same regardless of which year Huntzy, you deceptive virus
> >>> of a demoturd.
> >>>
> >>> And "inflation" as calculated by this paper printing giverment is
> >>> grossly under-represented.
> >>>
> >>> https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/
> >>>
> >>> Energy prices soar almost 30 percent under Biden ? 13 times faster than
> >>> previous 7 years: analysis
> >>>
> >>> And gasoline prices, while down from their 2022 peak, are still 52.1%
> >>> higher today than when Biden took the White House, Fox Business reported.
> >>
> >> The pandemic reduced demand. That reduced prices. Capitalism.
> >>
> >> Add to that the war in Ukraine has impacted MANY prices.
> >
> > Bullshit. What is the excuse for todays prices?
> >
> > DRILL BABY DRILL
>
> Gas prices are currently high for several reasons. First, as economies bounce
> back from COVID-19, demand for oil has surged, while OPEC+ manages supply by
> sometimes restricting production, keeping prices elevated. Geopolitical
> tensions also play a role; the war in Ukraine has disrupted energy markets,
> especially with sanctions on Russia impacting global supply, and instability
> in other oil-producing regions adds to these concerns. Additionally, rising
> costs across various sectors, including transportation and labor, contribute
> to higher gas prices, as overall inflation affects energy costs. Seasonal
> maintenance or unplanned outages at refineries can limit gasoline production,
> further tightening supplies and increasing prices. The summer driving season
> also drives up demand as more travelers hit the road. Market speculation about
> future oil supply and demand can lead to price increases as investors react to
> these perceptions.

Whatever. Now explain food prices. Stop with the AI bullshit.

In article <6712bae9$0$3620706$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 18, 2024 at 12:38:36 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <6712b93d$0$1895495$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >> Why do you respond to facts you do not like but with nastiness instead of
> >> staying on topic?
> >
> > Answer the question coward.
>
> You failed to. I accept this makes you a coward.

You snipped thereby making this thread null and void. Stop cheating and
get on track.