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Subject: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
From: Joel
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 21:14 UTC

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From: joelcrump@gmail.com (Joel)
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Subject: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 17:14:07 -0400
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https://deals.bleepingcomputer.com/sales/microsoft-visual-studio-professional-2022

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 21:27 UTC
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I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development as
it is.

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 21:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 17:35:33 -0400
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
>non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development as
>it is.

I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid
version for $40.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
From: Relf
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1970 00:00 UTC
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Crump: Sale on Visual Studio Pro from Bleeping Computer

Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.

Subject: Re: Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 22:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
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"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:

>Crump: Sale on Visual Studio Pro from Bleeping Computer
>
>Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.

I know, I had it installed under Win11, but if I ever actually used
it, I'd pay that sale price to get more features.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
From: rbowman
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 22:44 UTC
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On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:35:33 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
>>non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development
>>as it is.
>
>
> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid version
> for $40.

Unlike the earlier VS academic/free editions that were noticeably crippled
the paid professional doesn't get you much over the community edition for
most purposes.

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/compare/

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
From: Joel
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 23:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:35:33 -0400, Joel wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
>>>non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development
>>>as it is.
>>
>> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid version
>> for $40.
>
>Unlike the earlier VS academic/free editions that were noticeably crippled
>the paid professional doesn't get you much over the community edition for
>most purposes.
>
>https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/compare/

It does appear that there is not an advantage for an individual
developer. Thanks.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

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liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:35:33 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
>>non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development
>>as it is.
>
> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid version
> for $40.

If Visual Studio is so wonderful, why is there Visual Studio Code?

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
From: Joel
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 23:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>>>I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
>>>non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development
>>>as it is.
>>
>> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid version
>> for $40.
>
>If Visual Studio is so wonderful, why is there Visual Studio Code?

I guess they wanted to release that particular editor separately, for
whatever reason.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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On Fri, 24 May 2024 19:13:47 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless
>>>>for non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only
>>>>development as it is.
>>>
>>> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid
>>> version for $40.
>>
>>If Visual Studio is so wonderful, why is there Visual Studio Code?
>
> I guess they wanted to release that particular editor separately, for
> whatever reason.

Because the future belongs to cross-platform development, and Visual
Studio is useless for that.

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On May 24, 2024 at 6:25:02 PM EDT, ""Relf"" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:

> Crump: Sale on Visual Studio Pro from Bleeping Computer
>
> Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.

I have VS Community 2022 in a Windows 11 Arm VM on this MacBook Pro. For what
I need to do, it is fine. I'm not writing any commercial software, just
updating my own stuff from Intel code to Arm code. Which, BTW, could not be
easier.

But I did get my Windows 11 Arm/Windows Office 2021 AND Mac Office 2021 from
Bleeping Computer, about 6 months ago. All for around $120 total. Everything
installed and registered fine, and updates are fine.

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On 5/24/2024 7:08 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:35:33 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
>>> non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development
>>> as it is.
>>
>> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid version
>> for $40.
>
> If Visual Studio is so wonderful, why is there Visual Studio Code?

babble babble

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On Fri, 24 May 2024 20:07:09 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 5/24/2024 7:08 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:35:33 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless
>>>> for non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only
>>>> development as it is.
>>>
>>> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid
>>> version for $40.
>>
>> If Visual Studio is so wonderful, why is there Visual Studio Code?
>
> babble babble

Yeah, that seems to be the typical Microsofter’s response.

Something about using Microsoft products does this to their brains ...

Subject: Re: Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
From: rbowman
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 02:45 UTC
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On Fri, 24 May 2024 18:34:43 -0400, Joel wrote:

> "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
>>Crump: Sale on Visual Studio Pro from Bleeping Computer
>>
>>Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
>
>
> I know, I had it installed under Win11, but if I ever actually used it,
> I'd pay that sale price to get more features.

You don't level up much until you get the enterprise edition and that's
not $45.

I'm using the community 2019 and 2022 versions and have not hit anything I
could not do with C# or C++. The subscription version of Pro does include
some Azure time but I've only worked with AWS.

Subject: Re: Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Subject: Re: Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 May 2024 18:34:43 -0400, Joel wrote:
>> "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>
>>>Crump: Sale on Visual Studio Pro from Bleeping Computer
>>>
>>>Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free.
>>
>> I know, I had it installed under Win11, but if I ever actually used it,
>> I'd pay that sale price to get more features.
>
>You don't level up much until you get the enterprise edition and that's
>not $45.
>
>I'm using the community 2019 and 2022 versions and have not hit anything I
>could not do with C# or C++. The subscription version of Pro does include
>some Azure time but I've only worked with AWS.

Yeah, I was wrong, there isn't any reason for most people to pay for
it. I was sucked in by the low price.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Visual Studio, Community Edition, is cost free, but ...
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On Fri, 24 May 2024 22:51:50 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I was sucked in by the low price.

Beware of proprietary vendors bearing discounts.

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
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On Fri, 24 May 2024 23:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:35:33 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I don’t know why we care about a piece of software which is useless for
>>>non-Windows development, and barely copes with Windows-only development
>>>as it is.
>>
>> I didn't buy it, but it is an outstanding value, to get the paid
>> version for $40.
>
> If Visual Studio is so wonderful, why is there Visual Studio Code?

It's really an entirely different animal. One nice feature of Visual
Studio is the available templates for various projects although they
aren't necessary. There is better support for WinForms and WPf, installer
creation, and so forth. You can get by with dotnet and MSBuild but it's a
lot more work.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tutorials/with-visual-
studio-code?pivots=dotnet-8-0

That shows creating a project using dotnet on the command line. dwiw if
the dotnet SDK is installed on Linux it is the same procedure.

VSCode has a lot of extensions that I don't think are available in Visual
Studio workloads. For example I have Pylance installed for general Python
work, MicroPico for working with the Pico W, PlatformIO for Arduinos and
other boards, Jupyter notebook support, C/C#/C++ extensions, and a few
others.

That's on both my Windows and Linux machines. Visual Studio is Windows
only.

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
From: rbowman
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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On Fri, 24 May 2024 23:22:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Because the future belongs to cross-platform development, and Visual
> Studio is useless for that.

There is that. If the various websites can be believed VSCode has become
the IDE of choice for any language you care to mention. You have to be
careful since the landscape is changing rapidly.

That's the future but don't count VS out yet.

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On 25 May 2024 03:19:09 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> If the various websites can be believed VSCode has become
> the IDE of choice for any language you care to mention.

There is the question of why it had to be built on Electron, instead of
using Microsoft’s own Dotnet framework--wasn’t that cross-platform enough?

But then, maybe Dotnet is just as bloated as Electron ...

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On 25 May 2024 03:11:51 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 24 May 2024 23:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> If Visual Studio is so wonderful, why is there Visual Studio Code?
>
> It's really an entirely different animal. One nice feature of Visual
> Studio is the available templates for various projects although they
> aren't necessary. There is better support for WinForms and WPf,
> installer creation, and so forth. You can get by with dotnet and MSBuild
> but it's a lot more work.
>
> ...
>
> VSCode has a lot of extensions that I don't think are available in
> Visual Studio workloads. For example I have Pylance installed for
> general Python work, MicroPico for working with the Pico W, PlatformIO
> for Arduinos and other boards, Jupyter notebook support, C/C#/C++
> extensions, and a few others.
>
> That's on both my Windows and Linux machines. Visual Studio is Windows
> only.

So Microsoft’s development efforts are fragmented across two entirely
different, incompatible IDE architectures.

But then, fragmentation is nothing new to Microsoft, is it?

Subject: Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer
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On Sat, 25 May 2024 03:26:48 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> So Microsoft’s development efforts are fragmented across two entirely
> different, incompatible IDE architectures.

Even better:

https://github.com/microsoft/vscode

I'm sure there is a method to their madness.

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On Sat, 25 May 2024 03:25:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> There is the question of why it had to be built on Electron, instead of
> using Microsoft’s own Dotnet framework--wasn’t that cross-platform
> enough?

There are some attempts in the works but you can't build GUIs on Linux
with .NET. Even MAUI omits Linux.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/maui/what-is-maui?view=net-
maui-8.0

That's one area where the various choices bite Linux on the butt.

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On 25 May 2024 04:52:01 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
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> On Sat, 25 May 2024 03:26:48 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> So Microsoft’s development efforts are fragmented across two entirely
>> different, incompatible IDE architectures.
>
> Even better:
>
> https://github.com/microsoft/vscode
>
> I'm sure there is a method to their madness.

Based on your recommendation, I tried setting up VSCode
on my Linux box a few weeks ago.

After getting a handle on what was what, I ended up running
cpan to get some of its dependencies installed for perl development.
It ended up trying to install a package that wanted me to
downgrade my perl version. I didn't want to do that, so end
of that project.

I did try compiling and running a simple C program
in VSCode, which output something trivial to the console.
It wouldn't let me just run the thing ... insisted on
running it with gdb. I can see the utility of that,
but it wasn't what I expected.

Linux Mint Victoria.

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On 25 May 2024 04:52:01 GMT, rbowman wrote:

Just add to that madness/fun, that’s actually a third fragment. Remember
the VS Code itself is not open source, the open-source version is called
“VS Codium”. And lots of addons for VS Code do not work with VS Codium.

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On 25 May 2024 05:04:28 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Sat, 25 May 2024 03:25:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> There is the question of why it had to be built on Electron, instead of
>> using Microsoft’s own Dotnet framework--wasn’t that cross-platform
>> enough?
>
> There are some attempts in the works but you can't build GUIs on Linux
> with .NET. Even MAUI omits Linux.
>
> That's one area where the various choices bite Linux on the butt.

Seems like it’s actually biting Dotnet on the bum. Microsoft clearly
prioritizes Linux support over Dotnet.

Slow day. Practice crawling.

comp / comp.os.linux.advocacy / Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer

Subject	Author
Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Joel
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Joel
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Joel
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Joel
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	candycanearter07
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	candycanearter07
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	DFS
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	vallor
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	RonB
Re: Sale on Visual Studio from Bleeping Computer	rbowman