[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:

>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
><snip cowardly altering of quoting>

And Joel runs away again, upset that he was revealed as a supporter of
child abuse and molestation.

I thought Jesus was supposed to be forgiving 'n' shit?

ROFLMAO!!!!

[Default] "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> typed:

>
>
>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:dbpogjhl62tdati61sm2ak96hktfl0m5ll@4ax.com...
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>The alcohol/tobacco/cannabis age of 21 is unconstitutional, it should
>>>>be 18 or even 16.
>>>
>>>Well, no, it's not.
>>>
>>>But I can understand why a pedophile such as yourself would like to
>>>give drugs to children.
>>
>>
>> I can understand that you're retarded so you think a 20 year-old is a
>> "child". Retard.
>
>In a few states, they are... legally
>

Funny how he skips over the aforementioned 16 year olds.....

Le 2024-10-14 à 12 h 40, KlausSchadenfreude a écrit :
> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip cowardly altering of quoting>
>
> And Joel runs away again, upset that he was revealed as a supporter of
> child abuse and molestation.
>
> I thought Jesus was supposed to be forgiving 'n' shit?
>
> ROFLMAO!!!!

I feel terrible for the blind child who didn't run away at first sight
of Joel.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On 10/13/24 5:09 PM, Hugh Huntzinger, at 1 Harmony Lane in Denville, New Jersey,
wrote:
> On 10/11/24 11:35 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default]  Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> typed:
>>
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Wrong. It should be outlawed until AFTER 21 years of age-- any doctors
>>>> performing it should be executed, tried, and convicted.
>>>>
>>>> In that order.
>>>
>>> What a bitter man.
>>
>> Says the child molester
>
> Sounds like you don't know that there's been surgeries like this which have been
> going on for ~90 years:  20th Century advancements in medicine resulted in
> babies being born with genetic anomalies undergoing 'corrective' surgery,
> sometimes even without the parent's knowledge.
>
> Similarly, sometimes the child was never told of their medical history, even
> after they became an adult: these got buried as 'family secrets'.
>
> "In the United States genital reconstructive surgery was pioneered between 1930
> and 1960 by urologist Hugh Hampton Young and other surgeons at Johns Hopkins
> Hospital in Baltimore and other major university centers.[11] Understanding of
> intersex conditions was relatively primitive, based on identifying the type of
> gonad(s) by palpation or by surgery. Since ability to determine even the type of
> gonads in infancy was limited, sex of assignment and rearing were determined
> mainly by the appearance of the external genitalia."
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> History_of_intersex_surgery#Surgical_pioneering_and_constructed_gender>
>
>
> So the real question here is ... is this something actually new?

Yes. Faggots like you seeking to groom normal and healthy young boys
into having their genitals cut off while still under the age of 18 is
a new thing.

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
in message
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> [Default] "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> typed:
>
>>
>>
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:dbpogjhl62tdati61sm2ak96hktfl0m5ll@4ax.com...
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>The alcohol/tobacco/cannabis age of 21 is unconstitutional, it should
>>>>>be 18 or even 16.
>>>>
>>>>Well, no, it's not.
>>>>
>>>>But I can understand why a pedophile such as yourself would like to
>>>>give drugs to children.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can understand that you're retarded so you think a 20 year-old is a
>>> "child". Retard.
>>
>>In a few states, they are... legally
>>
>
> Funny how he skips over the aforementioned 16 year olds.....

Not really, you just have to remember his delusions and dishonesty.

I mean he even lies to himself.. so how can he be honest with anyone else?

"KlausSchadenfreude" <klausschadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in
message
news:49iqgj1165ihq7s9g1l6knorj3d1cf6iri@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...
> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>
>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>><snip cowardly altering of quoting>
>
> And Joel runs away again, upset that he was revealed as a supporter of
> child abuse and molestation.
>
> I thought Jesus was supposed to be forgiving 'n' shit?
>
> ROFLMAO!!!!

Probably pissed because his parents didn't cut off his dick and then screw
him in the ass.

On 10/14/24 9:40 PM, Arrest Gays wrote:
> On 10/13/24 5:09 PM, -hh wrote:
>> On 10/11/24 11:35 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> [Default]  Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> typed:
>>>
>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>>>> royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> Wrong. It should be outlawed until AFTER 21 years of age-- any doctors
>>>>> performing it should be executed, tried, and convicted.
>>>>>
>>>>> In that order.
>>>>
>>>> What a bitter man.
>>>
>>> Says the child molester
>>
>> Sounds like you don't know that there's been surgeries like this which
>> have been going on for ~90 years:  20th Century advancements in
>> medicine resulted in babies being born with genetic anomalies
>> undergoing 'corrective' surgery, sometimes even without the parent's
>> knowledge.
>>
>> Similarly, sometimes the child was never told of their medical
>> history, even after they became an adult: these got buried as 'family
>> secrets'.
>>
>> "In the United States genital reconstructive surgery was pioneered
>> between 1930 and 1960 by urologist Hugh Hampton Young and other
>> surgeons at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore and other major
>> university centers.[11] Understanding of intersex conditions was
>> relatively primitive, based on identifying the type of gonad(s) by
>> palpation or by surgery. Since ability to determine even the type of
>> gonads in infancy was limited, sex of assignment and rearing were
>> determined mainly by the appearance of the external genitalia."
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>> History_of_intersex_surgery#Surgical_pioneering_and_constructed_gender>
>>
>>
>> So the real question here is ... is this something actually new?
>
> Yes. Faggots like you seeking to groom normal and healthy young boys
> into having their genitals cut off while still under the age of 18 is
> a new thing.

No, that's that's not at all what I said.

What I said was that sexual assignment surgery has been a thing for
nearly 100 years, and the general practice thereof was to take a genetic
abnormality and to try to make them appear to be normal.

You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
operations.

As a first start to defining what you're offended by, that statement is
fine: but the next part is: "got actual data, instead of an opinion?"

Note that whatever statistics you come up with will need to subtract out
the above surgeries which correct genetic abnormalities.

That's your homework assignment. Get to work on it & report back.

-hh

On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
> operations.

Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?

https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs

Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.

On 10/15/24 3:39 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that
>> there's adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex
>> change operations.
>
> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?

Nope. Troll, troll again.

In the meantime, there's 3.66 million babies born in the USA per year.

Likewise, it appears that the natural incidence rate of some degree of
intersex as per the Anne Fausto-Sterling estimate is 1.7%."

1.7% of 3.66M kids/year = ~62,220 kids/year.

What percentage of them need some sort of medical correction? I have no
idea. But these are abnormalities which have been routinely treated by
the medical profession, including surgical procedures as I'd mentioned.

Now because the study was over a five year period, the birth rate over
that timeframe is 5x, and thus, the 1.7% portion of it is 5x too. As
such, there's potentially 5 * 62,220 = 311,100M kids who are potentially
applicable to the ones that they found in their study.

Now the study said they found 13,994 instances where some intervention
was done ... But 14K out of 311K is just 4.5% of the total applicable
vulnerable population in steady state (and just 0.08% of all kids).

I'd venture to say that this is actually a good news story, because 4.5%
is a pretty small number of this applicable vulnerable population, who
itself is less than 2% of the general population.

Because we do know that there's standards of medical practice that have
been ongoing for 90+ years to intercede on abnormalities, we know that
some of these (up to potentially "all") are simply normal medical
practice. So where's the clear evidence that there's "experimental
pediatric gender medicine" occurring? Let alone to any significant degree?

-hh

On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>> operations.
>
> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>
> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>
> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.

I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you get my drift.
Pun intended.

--
pothead
Kama Lama Ding Dong is the long lost sister of
Rama Lama Ding Dong

On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>> operations.
>>
>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>
>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>
> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you get my drift.
> Pun intended.
>
>

Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.

-hh

On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>> operations.
>>>
>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>
>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>
>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you get my drift.
>> Pun intended.
>>
>>
>
> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>
>
> -hh

Mad?
Hardly.
I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
It's a waste of energy.

I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is saying.
That's something you seem unable to do.

You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
And that is a fact.

Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working. He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying that message so he stopped promoting it.
The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
Literally everything they have touched they have f^%*ed up.
Even the chips act, which is a great idea, is in trouble because Asian companies refuse to follow Biden's DEI requirements.
And you want to elect Kamala Harris, voted the most far left person in the senate, by far, to continue this mess?
You must be a massive idiot.

--
pothead
Kama Lama Ding Dong is the long lost sister of
Rama Lama Ding Dong

Al Feldhauser wrote:
> *No* sex

Rudey sock change.

Explain why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ public death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
Runz and a few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

On Oct 15, 2024 at 5:05:56 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
<ven013$1ta8h$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>>> operations.
>>>>
>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>>
>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>>
>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
>>> get my drift.
>>> Pun intended.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Mad?
> Hardly.
> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
> It's a waste of energy.

Then why act so angry online?

>
> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
> saying.
> That's something you seem unable to do.
>
> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that the
> number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls show that
> people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.

Many do... it is a shame there is so much ignorance in the country.

> And that is a fact.
>
> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying that
> message so he stopped promoting it.
> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.

According to most historians the worst president is Buchanan. The second worst
is Trump.

> Literally everything they have touched they have f^%*ed up.

You made that up.

> Even the chips act, which is a great idea, is in trouble because Asian
> companies refuse to follow Biden's DEI requirements.
> And you want to elect Kamala Harris, voted the most far left person in the
> senate, by far, to continue this mess?
> You must be a massive idiot.

You claimed to not be mad but you act mad. Weird.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:36:07 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

Just wondering why you're responding to such an obvious and lame troll.

--
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

Four more reasons to not vote for Trump in 21 days.

46) Trump tried to shut down the Mueller investigation by ordering
White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn refused
because that would be criminal obstruction of justice.

47) Trump ordered his staff not to turn over emails showing Don Jr.
had set up a meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 election with
representatives of the Russian government.

48) Trump convinced Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about Trump's
plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, and Cohen served prison
time for lying to Congress.

49) Trump was not charged for criminal obstruction of justice
because it's the Justice Department's policy not to indict a
sitting president. But more than a thousand former federal
prosecutors who served under both Republicans and Democrats
signed a letter declaring there was more than enough evidence
to prosecute Trump.

On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:53:46 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:15:40 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>[GAC] Surgery shouldn't be required to be trans[gender], but it should be available
>>>>>to people over 16 or 18 [depending on their level of transition].
>>>>
>>>>Wrong. It should be outlawed until AFTER 21 years of age-- any doctors
>>>>performing it should be executed, tried, and convicted.
>>>>
>>>>In that order.
>>>
>>>Idiot, phobe.
>>
>>I agree with him.
>>
>>If we can't trust young people to drink before 21, how can we trust them to make
>>such a drastic elective surgery decision?
>
>
>The alcohol/tobacco/cannabis age of 21 is unconstitutional, it should
>be 18 or even 16.

If 21 is unconstitutional, btw, show us the Article/section, then 18 and 16 are
also. All three numbers are arbitrary.

--
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

Four more reasons to not vote for Trump in 21 days.

46) Trump tried to shut down the Mueller investigation by ordering
White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn refused
because that would be criminal obstruction of justice.

47) Trump ordered his staff not to turn over emails showing Don Jr.
had set up a meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 election with
representatives of the Russian government.

48) Trump convinced Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about Trump's
plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, and Cohen served prison
time for lying to Congress.

49) Trump was not charged for criminal obstruction of justice
because it's the Justice Department's policy not to indict a
sitting president. But more than a thousand former federal
prosecutors who served under both Republicans and Democrats
signed a letter declaring there was more than enough evidence
to prosecute Trump.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>If we can't trust young people to drink before 21, how can we trust them to make
>>>such a drastic elective surgery decision?
>>
>>The alcohol/tobacco/cannabis age of 21 is unconstitutional, it should
>>be 18 or even 16.
>
>If 21 is unconstitutional, btw, show us the Article/section, then 18 and 16 are
>also. All three numbers are arbitrary.

The constitution has an amendment guaranteeing the vote to 18 year-
olds, I'd reference that if you really need something, explicitly, to
tell you what is obvious.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ovrvgjdjoji5c36v4b60tn2mlgq4pkt264@4ax.com...
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>If we can't trust young people to drink before 21, how can we trust them
>>>>to make
>>>>such a drastic elective surgery decision?
>>>
>>>The alcohol/tobacco/cannabis age of 21 is unconstitutional, it should
>>>be 18 or even 16.
>>
>>If 21 is unconstitutional, btw, show us the Article/section, then 18 and
>>16 are
>>also. All three numbers are arbitrary.
>
>
> The constitution has an amendment guaranteeing the vote to 18 year-
> olds, I'd reference that if you really need something, explicitly, to
> tell you what is obvious.

Which means for everything, the age was GREATER than 16 or even 18....
before this Amendment.

An EXCEPTION was made via Amendment to allow those at least 18 to vote,
didn't change anything else.

It does NOT allow them to do anything else that requires you to be a legal
adult... such as alcohol/tobacco/cannabis

As such.. you have just shown those laws are NOT unconstitutional.

Otherwise.. we wouldn't have needed an Amendment to lower the voting age to
18......

I love how Joel just showed us he was wrong..... and probably won't accept
it even after I explain it.

On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>>> operations.
>>>>
>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>>
>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>>
>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you get my drift.
>>> Pun intended.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Mad?
> Hardly.
> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
> It's a waste of energy.

So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?

> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is saying.
> That's something you seem unable to do.

On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.

> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
> And that is a fact.

And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
Case in point:

>
> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.

So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?

Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
of the way there by another metric.

> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying
> that message so he stopped promoting it.

Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer running, Harris
has emphasized different top messaging points.

> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.

And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but this time
from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's "WIN" (Whip
Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real wages
catch up?

> Literally everything they have touched they have f^%*ed up.

Such as?

Despite the ongoing mess from CoVid that Trump screwed up back in 2020
by claiming it would 'go away' on its own, I've personally found these
post-DJT years to have been better, both perceptually and objectively.

So if you're angry about things, perhaps it is just *you*.

> Even the chips act, which is a great idea, is in trouble because Asian
> companies refuse to follow Biden's DEI requirements.

That may be what they're _saying_, but are they putting that on the
record in SEC filings? Because there's often issues blamed on some Red
Herring as the excuse instead of what's really the cause. So how have
you verified that this claim is actually the truth?

Besides, not everything works out: take Trump's campaign promise of a
giant Foxconn factory in Wisconsin which never happened ... what excuse
did they come up with? Likewise, "saved" jobs for Carrier's operations
in Indianapolis: what happened there? If you're angry that Biden's
only hitting .500, what was Trump's comparable record? Better? Worse?
How much worse?

Oh, that's right: you don't like spreadsheets to have any objectivity!

> And you want to elect Kamala Harris, voted the most far left person
> in the senate, by far, to continue this mess?

Harris isn't in the Senate anymore. And even from her time there, she
was representing California, one of the most progressive States in the
USA (and also one of the strongest economies too ... coincidence?), so
that was what the constituents expected from their representative.

> You must be a massive idiot.

When the alternative is the fascism-promising insurrectionist, how can
anyone who swore the oath to uphold & defend the US Constitution do
otherwise? Be specific.

-hh

-hh wrote:
> Harris isn't in the Senate anymore.  And even from her time there, she
> was representing California, one of the most progressive States in the USA

The MOST failed state in this nation.

The most refugees fleeing for all other states in this nation.

The most repressive, over-taxed, shit upon mess ever in these United States.

You vermin.

How you ever lasted in our own Air Force is a study in treason from within.
--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>>>
>>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>>>
>>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
>>>> get my drift.
>>>> Pun intended.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
>>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> Mad?
>> Hardly.
>> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
>> It's a waste of energy.
>
> So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
> motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
> to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
> upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?

He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you have a signifiant
issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
>
>
>> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
>> saying.
>> That's something you seem unable to do.
>
> On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
> data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.

Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that I am somehow
responsible for Carroll's flood bot.

>> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
>> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
>> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
>> And that is a fact.
>
> And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
> Case in point:
>
>>
>> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
>
> So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
>
> Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
> know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
> of the way there by another metric.

We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle down. Trump's
work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor did the
pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine. Or Israel.
>
>> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying
>> that message so he stopped promoting it.
>
> Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer running, Harris
> has emphasized different top messaging points.
>
>> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
>> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
>
> And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but this time
> from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's "WIN" (Whip
> Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real wages
> catch up?

Wages have not come close to keeping close with productivity. Used to be a CEO
made 40x the average worker. Now it is several hundred times.
>
>
>> Literally everything they have touched they have f^%*ed up.
>
> Such as?
>
> Despite the ongoing mess from CoVid that Trump screwed up back in 2020
> by claiming it would 'go away' on its own, I've personally found these
> post-DJT years to have been better, both perceptually and objectively.

Agreed.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 10/16/24 5:20 PM, troll Pierre Delecto Romney wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> Harris isn't in the Senate anymore.  And even from her time there, she
>> was representing California, one of the most progressive States in the
>> USA
>
> The MOST failed state in this nation.

Failed...except for how California is the world's 5th largest economy.

> The most refugees fleeing for all other states in this nation.

Most populous state, so the raw number should be expected to be the most
too. What's the per capita metric say?

> The most repressive, over-taxed, shit upon mess ever in these United
> States.

But highest in services though...right?
One gets what one pays for.

> You vermin.

You angry.
You whine.
You luzer.
You jealous.
You cry harder.

-hh

In article <6710329b$1$2385545$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:
>
> > On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
> >> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> >>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
> >>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
> >>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
> >>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
> >>>>>> operations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
> >>>> get my drift.
> >>>> Pun intended.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
> >>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -hh
> >>
> >> Mad?
> >> Hardly.
> >> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
> >> It's a waste of energy.
> >
> > So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
> > motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
> > to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
> > upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?
>
> He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you have a signifiant
> issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
> >
> >
> >> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
> >> saying.
> >> That's something you seem unable to do.
> >
> > On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
> > data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.
>
> Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that I am somehow
> responsible for Carroll's flood bot.
>
> >> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
> >> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
> >> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
> >> And that is a fact.
> >
> > And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
> > Case in point:
> >
> >>
> >> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
> >
> > So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
> >
> > Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
> > know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
> > of the way there by another metric.
>
> We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle down. Trump's
> work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor did the
> pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine. Or Israel.

I was better off when Trump was in office.
> >
> >> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying
> >> that message so he stopped promoting it.
> >
> > Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer running, Harris
> > has emphasized different top messaging points.
> >
> >> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
> >> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
> >
> > And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but this time
> > from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's "WIN" (Whip
> > Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real wages
> > catch up?
>
> Wages have not come close to keeping close with productivity. Used to be a CEO
> made 40x the average worker. Now it is several hundred times.

So?
> >
> >
> >> Literally everything they have touched they have f^%*ed up.
> >
> > Such as?
> >
> > Despite the ongoing mess from CoVid that Trump screwed up back in 2020
> > by claiming it would 'go away' on its own, I've personally found these
> > post-DJT years to have been better, both perceptually and objectively.
>
> Agreed.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 16:35:02 -0400, -hh wrote:

> Harris isn't in the Senate anymore. And even from her time there, she
> was representing California, one of the most progressive States in the
> USA (and also one of the strongest economies too ... coincidence?), so
> that was what the constituents expected from their representative.

We're the world's 5th largest economy, bigger than France.

It's not perfect, but it's got a lot going for it -- and
a lot of the federal monies it generates end up in red states,
which can't seem to take care of themselves.

--
-c

On 10/16/24 6:10 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <6710329b$1$2385545$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
>>>>>> get my drift.
>>>>>> Pun intended.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
>>>>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>>> Mad?
>>>> Hardly.
>>>> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
>>>> It's a waste of energy.
>>>
>>> So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
>>> motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
>>> to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
>>> upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?
>>
>> He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you have a signifiant
>> issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
>>>> saying.
>>>> That's something you seem unable to do.
>>>
>>> On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
>>> data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.
>>
>> Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that I am somehow
>> responsible for Carroll's flood bot.
>>
>>>> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
>>>> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
>>>> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
>>>> And that is a fact.
>>>
>>> And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
>>> Case in point:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
>>>
>>> So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
>>>
>>> Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
>>> know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
>>> of the way there by another metric.
>>
>> We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle down. Trump's
>> work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor did the
>> pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine. Or Israel.
>
> I was better off when Trump was in office.

By what measure?

>>>
>>>> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people were not buying
>>>> that message so he stopped promoting it.
>>>
>>> Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer running, Harris
>>> has emphasized different top messaging points.
>>>
>>>> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as the worst
>>>> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
>>>
>>> And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but this time
>>> from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's "WIN" (Whip
>>> Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real wages
>>> catch up?
>>
>> Wages have not come close to keeping close with productivity. Used to be a CEO
>> made 40x the average worker. Now it is several hundred times.
>
> So?

The CEO:worker pay ratio shows the increasing wealth concentration at
the top, which is decreasing the prosperity of the US middle class, for
higher CEO pay means less for the rank & file, which is why more middle
class households are failing instead of rising up. It is the inevitable
outcome of the GOP's "Trickle-Down" economics starting from Reagan.

-hh