> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 18:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> While I would've worded it nicer, I agree that AI isn't super useful and
>>> almost every implementation I've seen has been a marketing gimmick
>>> and/or useless.

Don't be confused. There is a difference between the AI is really used
to by most people (ie: creating memes) and what AI can do in some fields.
Some jobs are really threatened. It's for a reason. AI is useful today,
even if you are not directly concerned.

>>Can AI replace YOU? I would strongly believe that it can.

The good thing for you is: as AI pass the Turing test now when you
don't, you can't be replaced by AI. Or, it would require a very lame AI
to be able to replace you. It means this AI wouldn't have any other
purpose, it would be way too much expansive for no good reason.

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 21:38 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 18:00:07 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>>> AI, or more properly, pattern matching, can be quite valuable in image
>>> sharpening, background removal, and other image processing tasks.
>>
>> Agreed, and /some/ tedious tasks, like captioning.
>
> Unfortunately image recognition starts with the tedious task of
> captioning. The 'hello world' of image recognition is a huge dataset of
> dogs and cats, each labeled 'dog' or 'cat'. Guess who does the labeling.
>
> Voice recognition is as bad if not worse. There are a variety of accents
> to deal with as well as languages. A real problem is the very skewed
> nature of the available data. English has the most data while Tagalog data
> is sparse/
>
> If you have some spare time:
>
> https://commonvoice.mozilla.org/en
>
> The 'listen' side is revealing. You're shown the words and listens to the
> speaker's pronunciation and score it. Some people try really hard but what
> they produce is unintelligible. The 'speak' side can be humbling. I
> wouldn't make a good politician since it's apparent I can't read from a
> teleprompter :) At least you get a redo.
>
> There are unsupervised learning techniques that do not require massive
> amounts of stat but they seldom are in the spotlight. An example would be
> a system receiving sound, temperature, vibration, and other data from a
> car engine. In time it learns the baseline parameters of a healthy engine
> and can raise a red flag when you're getting ready to drop a rod.

No wonder youtube autocaptions are so unreliable.
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Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Subject: If you're a fucking moron

I will say, having had more experience with AI chat, it isn't useless,
it's not something I would rely on for serious work, but it's
entertaining to think of crazy things to talk about, to it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:32:22 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I will say, having had more experience with AI chat, it isn't useless,
> it's not something I would rely on for serious work, but it's
> entertaining to think of crazy things to talk about, to it.

https://www.unite.ai/ai-girlfriends/

https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/business/tech-exec-predicts-ai-girlfriends-
will-create-1b-business/

I find that rather disturbing. I wonder if the fee includes a blowup sex
doll?

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> I will say, having had more experience with AI chat, it isn't useless,
>> it's not something I would rely on for serious work, but it's
>> entertaining to think of crazy things to talk about, to it.
>
>https://www.unite.ai/ai-girlfriends/
>
>https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/business/tech-exec-predicts-ai-girlfriends-
>will-create-1b-business/
>
>I find that rather disturbing. I wonder if the fee includes a blowup sex
>doll?

AI cyber sex, I should've thought of that first! ;)

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:20:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> No wonder youtube autocaptions are so unreliable.

One project for a TinyML course I took was using an Arduino Nano Sense 33
to handle wake words. Those are phrases like 'Alexa'. Currently the wake
word triggers the system but almost all subsequent speech processing is
done by a server in the cloud. The object someday is to have the
capability in a phone or an edge device to handle the whole process. There
would be a lot of savings in eliminating a massive backend and also would
address privacy issues.

Anyway I could train the board to recognize a few words like start, stop,
up and down. Some were more reliable than others. Messing around I could
get some feel for what the neural network model was looking for, so to
speak, and trick it. That's the problem with NNs. It's not clear what they
really are doing even while understanding the process. In this case the
microphone output was sampled by an AD converter and used to create a
spectrogram.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram

Ultimately deciding if the spoken command was 'start' or 'stop' cam down
to image classification using the spectrogram. There is clipping, scaling,
and manipulations to simplify the image all along the way but it worked.
Mostly.

Trying to autocaption probably breaks the speech into phonemes to be more
flexible but given accents, inflections, poor pronunciations, and other
factors human listeners are skilled at handling it is a challenge.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:31:34 -0400, Joel wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>>> I will say, having had more experience with AI chat, it isn't useless,
>>> it's not something I would rely on for serious work, but it's
>>> entertaining to think of crazy things to talk about, to it.
>>
>>https://www.unite.ai/ai-girlfriends/
>>
>>https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/business/tech-exec-predicts-ai-
girlfriends-
>>will-create-1b-business/
>>
>>I find that rather disturbing. I wonder if the fee includes a blowup sex
>>doll?
>
>
> AI cyber sex, I should've thought of that first! ;)

Well, it was sort of a no-brainer. I poked around one, Nomi, I think. You
get to pick the girl of your dreams. They weren't nude and it was from
waist up, so maybe not your dreams. That's as far as I went so I have no
idea of how raunchy it can get.

I have had relationships where an AI would undoubtedly be a better
conversationalist but until they come up with the home android model I
don't think they cook or do housework.