Feeling the pain yet?
Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
joy joy".
I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
payment.

<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>

Since Kamala took office:

Gas: +38.2%
Electricity: +31.3%
Fuel oil: +37.4%
Airfare: +24.5%
Hotels: +42.4%
Groceries: +22.1%
Eggs: +69.2%
Baby food: +31%
K-12 food: +69.7%
Rent: +22.9%
Transportation: +31.1%
Car insurance: +56.5%
Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%

[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> typed:

======================================
Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
Pathetic vandalism of follow ups in an impotent attempt
to stop being bitch-slapped into next week
repaired and restored.
======================================

>By just about every measure, the U.S. economy is in good shape. Growth is
>strong. Unemployment is low. Inflation is back down. More important, many
>Americans are getting sizable pay raises, and middle-class wealth has surged to
>record levels. We are living through one of the best economic years of many
>people’s lifetimes. Yet it’s barely mentioned in popular culture or on the
>campaign trail.

A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes
the truth.
- Goebbels

Rudy Canoza wrote:
> The economy is *very* strong.

Why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
Runz and a few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
> Feeling the pain yet?
> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
> joy joy".
> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
> payment.
>
> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>
>
> Since Kamala took office:
>
> Gas: +38.2%
> Electricity: +31.3%
> Fuel oil: +37.4%
> Airfare: +24.5%
> Hotels: +42.4%
> Groceries: +22.1%
> Eggs: +69.2%
> Baby food: +31%
> K-12 food: +69.7%
> Rent: +22.9%
> Transportation: +31.1%
> Car insurance: +56.5%
> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%

Another thing for the list.

Look what green-pushing Democrats did to homeowner solar generated
electricity. They bent over for the utility companies and helped pass
legislation so they don't have to buy excess electricity from
homeowners, and if they still do, it's pennies not dollars now.

On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>> Feeling the pain yet?
>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>> joy joy".
>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>> payment.
>>
>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>

Gateway pundit? LOL.

>> Since Kamala took office:

What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?

>> Gas: +38.2%
>> Electricity: +31.3%
>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>> Airfare: +24.5%
>> Hotels: +42.4%
>> Groceries: +22.1%
>> Eggs: +69.2%
>> Baby food: +31%
>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>> Rent: +22.9%
>> Transportation: +31.1%
>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%

Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:

<https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>

....wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:

"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
since January 2023."

FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
you're below average. Gosh.

>
> Another thing for the list.
>
> Look what green-pushing Democrats did to homeowner solar generated
> electricity.  They bent over for the utility companies and helped pass
> legislation so they don't have to buy excess electricity from
> homeowners, and if they still do, it's pennies not dollars now.

Really? Got a reputable citation for that claim?

Because the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) has ruled that
it doesn't have jurisdiction over net metering, and in 2020, even
dismissed a petition from utilities seeking the FERC to take control and
propose a national rule on net metering. See:

<https://www.americanactionforum.org/insight/federal-jurisdiction-of-net-metering/>

So if you've gotten screwed over by some rule change on Net Metering, it
was at the State level. Last time I looked into this, it was GOP-lead
Florida who was supporting the utility companies over homeowners. See:

<https://www.reddit.com/r/solar/comments/vtvudc/can_i_sue_my_florida_electric_coop_for/>

-hh

On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>> joy joy".
>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>> payment.
>>>
>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>
>Gateway pundit? LOL.

Second source:

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/

Third source:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html

How about addressing the issue?

>
>
>>> Since Kamala took office:
>
>What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>
>
>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>> Baby food: +31%
>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>
>
>Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:

Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.

>
><https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>
>...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>
>"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>since January 2023."
>
>FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>you're below average. Gosh.
>

Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.

On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>> joy joy".
>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>> payment.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>Gateway pundit? LOL.
>
> Second source:
>
> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>
> Third source:
>
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>
> How about addressing the issue?
>
>>
>>
>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>>What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>
>>
>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>
>>
>>Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>
> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>>
>><https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>
>>...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>
>>"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>since January 2023."
>>
>>FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>you're below average. Gosh.
>>
>
> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.
>
They don't call hh high horse for no reason.
I'd love for him to interview people at the local market and present his ever
spinning numbers and see what they think when they are paying more and getting
less.
Now that would be interesting.

--
pothead
Kama Lama Ding Dong is the long lost sister of
Rama Lama Ding Dong

On 10/13/2024 7:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>> joy joy".
>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>> payment.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>
> Second source:
>
> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>
> Third source:
>
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>
> How about addressing the issue?
>
>>
>>
>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>
>>
>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>
>>
>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>
> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>>
>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>
>> ...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>
>> "In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>> 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>> since January 2023."
>>
>> FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>> you're below average. Gosh.
>>
>
> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.

They haven't.

The USA lags behind all other developed nations when it comes to wages,
disability and social services for THEIR OWN CITIZENS.

Disability payments are a disgrace in the USA. They are unfairly tilted
to benefit blacks and those who have applied for sanctuary from foreign
countries at the expense of Caucasians and Native Americans of any
ethnicity. Can you live on $900 a month? That's what a typical monthly
disability payment is in the USA.

It's time to kick all the illegals out and focus on Americans first.

Kick them out and give them 10 Democrats each on the way out.

alan downs <alandowns@facebook.com> wrote in
news:vehetm$5bo$6@toxic.dizum.net:

>
> It's time to kick all the illegals out and focus on Americans first.
>

Yes, deport the illegals and give those
jobs instead to...........Jamaicans. Heaven
knows Americans won't do the work.

Essential Jamaican workers keep local
orchards humming
AUG 6, 2020

In an interview with the Press, Frank
Carlson, one of the owners of Carlson
Orchards, explained the process of
bringing migrant farm workers to the
U.S. He said that agricultural workers
come to the U.S. on H-2A visas, which
the New England Apple Council helps to
organize for the orchards. The council
also has a contract with Florida East
Coast Vegetables, which allows the
workers to fly from Jamaica to Florida
and stay overnight before flying or
taking a bus up the coast.
http://tinyurl.com/4mcrwzft

US hunts more agriculture workers from Jamaica
February 14, 2024
https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/business/20240214/us-hunts-more-
agriculture-workers-jamaica

On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:36:17 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>> joy joy".
>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>> payment.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>Gateway pundit? LOL.
>
>Second source:
>
>https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>
>Third source:
>
>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>
>How about addressing the issue?
>
>>
>>
>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>>What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>
>>
>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>
>>
>>Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>
>Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>>
>><https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>
>>...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>
>>"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>since January 2023."
>>
>>FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>you're below average. Gosh.
>>
>
>Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
>the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.

<crickets.wav>

On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 22:30:46 -0700, Froyd <froyd@live.com> wrote:

>On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>> Feeling the pain yet?
>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>> joy joy".
>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>> payment.
>>
>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>
>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>> Gas: +38.2%
>> Electricity: +31.3%
>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>> Airfare: +24.5%
>> Hotels: +42.4%
>> Groceries: +22.1%
>> Eggs: +69.2%
>> Baby food: +31%
>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>> Rent: +22.9%
>> Transportation: +31.1%
>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>
>Another thing for the list.
>
>Look what green-pushing Democrats did to homeowner solar generated
>electricity. They bent over for the utility companies and helped pass
>legislation so they don't have to buy excess electricity from
>homeowners, and if they still do, it's pennies not dollars now.

Um, ya know guys, that when you post stuff like this from Gateway Pundit,
everybody knows it's a lie, right?

--

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 23 days.

44) In a likely obstruction of justice, Trump pressured
then-FBI Director James Comey to stop the FBI's investigation
into Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn.
This was documented in the Mueller report.

45) When Comey didn't bend to Trump's will, Trump fired him.

In article <XnsB20AD4F9EB4F0629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> alan downs <alandowns@facebook.com> wrote in
> news:vehetm$5bo$6@toxic.dizum.net:
>
>
> >
> > It's time to kick all the illegals out and focus on Americans first.
> >
>
>
> Yes, deport the illegals and give those
> jobs instead to...........Jamaicans. Heaven
> knows Americans won't do the work.

Like you?
>
>
>
> Essential Jamaican workers keep local
> orchards humming
> AUG 6, 2020
>
> In an interview with the Press, Frank
> Carlson, one of the owners of Carlson
> Orchards, explained the process of
> bringing migrant farm workers to the
> U.S. He said that agricultural workers
> come to the U.S. on H-2A visas, which
> the New England Apple Council helps to
> organize for the orchards. The council
> also has a contract with Florida East
> Coast Vegetables, which allows the
> workers to fly from Jamaica to Florida
> and stay overnight before flying or
> taking a bus up the coast.
> http://tinyurl.com/4mcrwzft
>
>
>
> US hunts more agriculture workers from Jamaica
> February 14, 2024
> https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/business/20240214/us-hunts-more-
> agriculture-workers-jamaica

On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>> payment.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>
>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>
>> Second source:
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>
>> Third source:
>>
>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>
>> How about addressing the issue?

That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?

>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>
>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>
>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.

Interesting claim - got cite?

Because FRED's data is indicating that real income is approaching an
all-time-high:

<https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N>

>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>>
>>> ...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>>
>>> "In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>> 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>> since January 2023."
>>>
>>> FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>> you're below average. Gosh.
>>>
>>
>> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
>> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.
>>
> They don't call hh high horse for no reason.

The reason why luzers call me that is because they lose the debate on
the facts of the matter.

Case in point, the facts of the matter is that already by beginning of
2023, real median personal income was already at a nearly all-time high.
See:

<https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N>

$42,220 is 99.3% of the all-time high of $42,530 ...

And before you point and say that it is 0.7% short, note that I said
that this was as of 1/1/2023, so it is 20+ months out of date.

So what's happened on wages vs inflation over the past 21 months? Well,
go back to the Stasticia cite I provided to fill in that gap: one can
see that wage growth has exceeded inflation for all but the first month
of that time period...

....so when you do the math to bring this up to date, you find that wages
have exceeded inflation by +3% since 1/1/23. When FRED eventually
updates and publishes through to August 2024, you'll see that their real
wages will be at ~$43,487, which is 102% of its prior all-time high.

TL;DR: real median personal income is an *after* inflation metric, and
as of August 2024, it is 2% higher than the previous record high.

> I'd love for him to interview people at the local market and present his ever
> spinning numbers and see what they think when they are paying more and getting
> less.
> Now that would be interesting.
>

If you can prove that the numbers I provide are wrong, have at it.
Otherwise, you're just YA member of the luzer butthurt brigade.

-hh

On 10/14/24 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:36:17 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>> payment.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>
>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>
>> Second source:
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>
>> Third source:
>>
>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>
>> How about addressing the issue?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>
>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>
>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>>
>>> ...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>>
>>> "In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>> 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>> since January 2023."
>>>
>>> FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>> you're below average. Gosh.
>>>
>>
>> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
>> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.
>
> <crickets.wav>

Heaven forbid that I don't log in on a Sunday!

In any event, already addressed in my post on this thread of a few
minutes ago.

Real Real Median Personal Income in the United States (which is an
"after inflation" metric) was already back by 1/1/2023 to be over 99% of
that metric's all time record high, plus as per the above Statistica
cite, the growth in wages since 1/1/2023 is +3% higher than inflation,
which puts real income as of Aug 24 at 2% better than it has ever been.

Now then, Mr "crickets", for the part you've been silent on:

What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?

You've already had all of yesterday to think about your answer.

-hh

-hh

On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:12 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>>> payment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>>
>>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>>
>>> Second source:
>>>
>>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>>
>>> Third source:
>>>
>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>>
>>> How about addressing the issue?
>
>
>That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?
>
>
>>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>>
>>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>>
>>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>Interesting claim - got cite?

"Since Biden took office in January 2021, inflation has increased
19.3% while wages have risen 16.1%. "

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/06/joe-biden/have-wages-exceeded-inflation-under-joe-biden/

On 10/15/24 7:19 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>>>> payment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>>>
>>>> Second source:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>>>
>>>> Third source:
>>>>
>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>>>
>>>> How about addressing the issue?
>>
>>
>> That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?
>>
>>
>>>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>>>
>>>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>>>
>>>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>>
>> Interesting claim - got cite?
>
> "Since Biden took office in January 2021, inflation has increased
> 19.3% while wages have risen 16.1%. "
>
> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/06/joe-biden/have-wages-exceeded-inflation-under-joe-biden/

About time. Now bring it up to date, with data from 1 June forward,
since that article's not been updated to current.

For that here's the annualized data points from the prior citation for
you to finish the math on:

June 2024: wages +5.3%; inflation +3% = +3.3% NET higher wages
July 2024: wages +4.7%; inflation +2.9% = +1.8% NET higher wages
Aug. 2024: wages +4.6%; inflation +2.5% = +2.1% NET higher wages

Plus beyond that cite:
September 2024: wages +4%; inflation +2.4% = +1.6% NET higher wags

Plus if your point is to attribute inflation to elections, then you need
to recognize that election day, not inauguration, is when the business
uncertainly was removed and conditions started to change - even before
there were any new policies enacted. This means to count from November
2020, not January 2021 (or February 2021, depending on if they counted
all of January for 1/20/21, interpolated or simply started on 2/1).

The data here is that wages outstripped inflation by 2% annualized in
Nov & Dec 2020:

Nov 2020: wages +3.7%; inflation +1.2% = +2.5% NET higher wages
Dec 2020: wages +3.4%; inflation +1.4% = +2.0% NET higher wages
Jan 2021: wages +3.4%; inflation +1.4% = +2.0% NET higher wages
Feb 2021: wages +3.4%; inflation +1.7% = +1.7% NET higher wages

Finally, the other question is how much time should one grant for wages
to catch up to inflation? Because we know that they invariably lag.

Which is also why one has the metric of Real Median Personal Income,
which is an "after inflation" metric. As of Aug 2024, it was 2% better
than it has ever been.

Plus there's also the other point that you're remaining silent on:

[quote]
What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
[/quote]

Third request.

-hh

On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:12 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
<snip>
>> They don't call hh high horse for no reason.
>
>The reason why luzers call me that is because they lose the debate on
>the facts of the matter.

They plonk me for the same reason. Pothead especially NEVER engages in dialog
with anybody EXCEPT those who agree with him. Those who disagree are ignored.
This is a clear trait of drive by trolls whose job is to post outrageous lies
and half truths and then go on to the next without defending anything the write.

--
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

Four more reasons to not vote for Trump in 21 days.

46) Trump tried to shut down the Mueller investigation by ordering
White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn refused
because that would be criminal obstruction of justice.

47) Trump ordered his staff not to turn over emails showing Don Jr.
had set up a meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 election with
representatives of the Russian government.

48) Trump convinced Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about Trump's
plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, and Cohen served prison
time for lying to Congress.

49) Trump was not charged for criminal obstruction of justice
because it's the Justice Department's policy not to indict a
sitting president. But more than a thousand former federal
prosecutors who served under both Republicans and Democrats
signed a letter declaring there was more than enough evidence
to prosecute Trump.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:19:01 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:12 -0400, -hh
><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>>>> payment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>>>
>>>> Second source:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>>>
>>>> Third source:
>>>>
>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>>>
>>>> How about addressing the issue?
>>
>>
>>That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?
>>
>>
>>>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>>>
>>>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>>>
>>>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>>
>>Interesting claim - got cite?
>
>"Since Biden took office in January 2021, inflation has increased
>19.3% while wages have risen 16.1%. "
>
>https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/06/joe-biden/have-wages-exceeded-inflation-under-joe-biden/

Yet currently, wages are growing faster than inflation. Again, since you
haven't got it over the past thirty or so years of economic discussion, wage
growth, like employment rates, are a lagging indicator.

--
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

Four more reasons to not vote for Trump in 21 days.

46) Trump tried to shut down the Mueller investigation by ordering
White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn refused
because that would be criminal obstruction of justice.

47) Trump ordered his staff not to turn over emails showing Don Jr.
had set up a meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 election with
representatives of the Russian government.

48) Trump convinced Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about Trump's
plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, and Cohen served prison
time for lying to Congress.

49) Trump was not charged for criminal obstruction of justice
because it's the Justice Department's policy not to indict a
sitting president. But more than a thousand former federal
prosecutors who served under both Republicans and Democrats
signed a letter declaring there was more than enough evidence
to prosecute Trump.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fvuvgjpdq7oo69l5m1e8gcl1v7hp76de6h@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:19:01 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:12 -0400, -hh
>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy
>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>>>>> payment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second source:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>>>>
>>>>> Third source:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>>>>
>>>>> How about addressing the issue?
>>>
>>>
>>>That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>>>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>>>>
>>>>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>>>
>>>Interesting claim - got cite?
>>
>>"Since Biden took office in January 2021, inflation has increased
>>19.3% while wages have risen 16.1%. "
>>
>>https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/06/joe-biden/have-wages-exceeded-inflation-under-joe-biden/
>
> Yet currently, wages are growing faster than inflation. Again, since you
> haven't got it over the past thirty or so years of economic discussion,
> wage
> growth, like employment rates, are a lagging indicator.

Great.. we're going to need it to pay our taxes if Kamala gets elected.

"On a gross basis, we estimate that Vice President Harris's proposals would
increase taxes by about $4.1 trillion from 2025 to 2034. After taking
various credits and tax cuts into account, Harris would raise about $1.7
trillion over 10 years on a conventional basis,"

https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/kamala-harris-tax-plan-2024/

On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 14:43:19 -0700, alan downs <alandowns@facebook.com> wrote:

>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>
>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>
>> Second source:
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>
>> Third source:
>>
>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>
>> How about addressing the issue?

First, let's compare the articles.

Reuters: "WASHINGTON, Oct 10 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer prices rose slightly
more than expected in September amid higher food costs, but the annual increase
in inflation was the smallest in more than 3-1/2 years, keeping the Federal
Reserve on track to cut interest rates again next month."

Yahoo: "Grocery prices rise again in September, candy prices expected to remain
elevated ahead of Halloween"

Gateway Pundit: "BREAKING: Inflation Rises in September – Food Prices Surge –
Auto Insurance Prices Soar"

Notice the dramatic language; "surge" and "soar". Then read the articles and
note that after posting a series of tweets and dramatic looking graphs from Zero
Hedge, we finally get to this from Fox Business:

"The Labor Department on Thursday said the consumer price index (CPI) – a broad
measure of how much everyday goods like gasoline, groceries and rent cost – rose
0.2% in September from the prior month and was up 2.4% from a year ago.

"Economists predicted that inflation would slow to 2.3% on an annual basis with
it rising 0.1% from last month, according to estimates by economists surveyed by
LSEG.

"So-called core prices, which exclude more volatile measurements of gasoline and
food to better assess price growth trends, were up 0.3% on a monthly basis and
3.3% compared to a year ago – slightly higher than economists’ expectations of
0.2% and 3.2%, respectively."

Note that Fox uses the labor department as it's source while GP is pushing 0H.

What it all boils down to is that inflation has faded to near target but didn't
drop quite as much as expected.

You know why?

Strong consumer spending. If consumers weren't spending and confident in what
they're spending, there would be no inflation at all.

Bottom line: The economy remains strong and consumers have money to spend.

--
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

Four more reasons to not vote for Trump in 21 days.

46) Trump tried to shut down the Mueller investigation by ordering
White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn refused
because that would be criminal obstruction of justice.

47) Trump ordered his staff not to turn over emails showing Don Jr.
had set up a meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 election with
representatives of the Russian government.

48) Trump convinced Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about Trump's
plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, and Cohen served prison
time for lying to Congress.

49) Trump was not charged for criminal obstruction of justice
because it's the Justice Department's policy not to indict a
sitting president. But more than a thousand former federal
prosecutors who served under both Republicans and Democrats
signed a letter declaring there was more than enough evidence
to prosecute Trump.

On 10/16/24 1:54 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fvuvgjpdq7oo69l5m1e8gcl1v7hp76de6h@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:19:01 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:12 -0400, -hh
>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting
>>>>>>>>> "happy happy
>>>>>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept
>>>>>>>>> that as
>>>>>>>>> payment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-
>>>>>>>>> inflation-
>>>>>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gateway pundit?  LOL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second source:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-
>>>>>> slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Third source:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-
>>>>>> september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-
>>>>>> halloween-202000134.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about addressing the issue?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>>>>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags
>>>>>>> because it
>>>>>>> is in response to inflation.  As per Statistica:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting claim - got cite?
>>>
>>> "Since Biden took office in January 2021, inflation has increased
>>> 19.3% while wages have risen 16.1%. "
>>>
>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/06/joe-biden/have-
>>> wages-exceeded-inflation-under-joe-biden/
>>
>> Yet currently, wages are growing faster than inflation.  Again, since you
>> haven't got it over the past thirty or so years of economic
>> discussion, wage
>> growth, like employment rates, are a lagging indicator.
>
> Great.. we're going to need it to pay our taxes if Kamala gets elected.

Did you say "we"? So who is this "we" that's making $400K+?
You and Vallor?

> "On a gross basis, we estimate that Vice President Harris's proposals
> would increase taxes by about $4.1 trillion from 2025 to 2034. After
> taking various credits and tax cuts into account, Harris would raise
> about $1.7 trillion over 10 years on a conventional basis,"
>
> https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/kamala-harris-tax-plan-2024/

Which also states (relevant to you):

"The bottom 60 percent of earners would see increases in after-tax
income in 2025."

and:

"After-tax income for the bottom quintile would increase by 16.5
percent, largely from expanded tax credits."

Now put this into context of the alternative, which is Trump's tax plan.
Why are you suddenly no longer worried at all about the National Debt?

-hh

Governor Swill wrote:
> First, let's compare

Indeed we shall!

Read it again, scumbag little man Jonathan D Ball...you are no more than
a failed solar city installer and Suckramento bungalow trash pretending
to be Phil Hendrie, but giving blow jobs at the TA glory Hole and
ducking fights at the Jolly Kone like you always do...

Explain why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ public death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
Runz and a few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:54:29 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>Great.. we're going to need it to pay our taxes if Kamala gets elected.
>
>"On a gross basis, we estimate that Vice President Harris's proposals would
>increase taxes by about $4.1 trillion from 2025 to 2034. After taking
>various credits and tax cuts into account, Harris would raise about $1.7
>trillion over 10 years on a conventional basis,"
>
>https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/kamala-harris-tax-plan-2024/

Good. Let's see how much of it she can divert into deficit reduction. We
already know Republicans implement big deficits and high levels of debt.

NP: Beatles - Something.

--
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

Four more reasons to not vote for Trump in 19 days.

50) Trump said he'd hire only the best people in the world.
But his campaign chair was convicted of multiple crimes.
So was one of his closest associates. His deputy campaign
chair pleaded guilty to crimes. So did his personal lawyer,
his national security adviser, the chief financial officer of
his business campaign, a campaign foreign policy adviser, and
one of his campaign fundraisers. They all committed crimes and
Trump pardoned most of them!

51) Trump said he'd drain the swamp in Washington, D.C. but he
appointed more billionaires, CEOs, and Wall Street moguls to his
administration than any administration in history.

52) Trump intervened to get his son-in-law, Jared Kushner,
Top Secret clearance after he was denied over concerns about foreign influence.

53) Trump hosted a Russian foreign minister in the Oval Office
where Trump revealed top secret intelligence.

54) Trump promised that the average American family would see
a $4,000 pay raise because of his tax cuts for the wealthy and
big corporations. Well, how did that work out? Did you get a
$4,000 raise? Of course not! Nobody did!