So much for the "science." This crap was actually published in the so-called
"Scientific" American magazine.

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent
biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are
treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running events allow the
use of professional runners called pacesetters to help competitors
perform their best. men are not permitted to act as pacesetters in many
women's events because of the belief that they will make women
"artificially faster," as though women were not actually doing the
running themselves.

It has nothing to do with size, muscle mass, size of the lungs, weight
distribution, etc. — the differences between men and women athletes'
performances is all due to "bias."

When "scientists" (so-called) get this stupid, real science doesn't exist.
It's just a cult spreading their fairy-tale propaganda.

Kind of like the Covid mRNA shot was "safe and effective." Until they
admitted it wasn't. And masks and six foot distancing was "necessary" until
the admitted they just spitballed it.

You'll notice the U.N. in their "one world control document" (recently
posted here) kept referring to "science-based" evidence. This is the kind
of "science" they were referring to, i.e., cult stupidity and propaganda,
like the asinine belief that "men can have babies."

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-06 7:25 p.m., RonB wrote:
> So much for the "science." This crap was actually published in the so-called
> "Scientific" American magazine.
>
> The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent
> biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are
> treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running events allow the
> use of professional runners called pacesetters to help competitors
> perform their best. men are not permitted to act as pacesetters in many
> women's events because of the belief that they will make women
> "artificially faster," as though women were not actually doing the
> running themselves.
>
> It has nothing to do with size, muscle mass, size of the lungs, weight
> distribution, etc. — the differences between men and women athletes'
> performances is all due to "bias."
>
> When "scientists" (so-called) get this stupid, real science doesn't exist.
> It's just a cult spreading their fairy-tale propaganda.
>
> Kind of like the Covid mRNA shot was "safe and effective." Until they
> admitted it wasn't. And masks and six foot distancing was "necessary" until
> the admitted they just spitballed it.
>
> You'll notice the U.N. in their "one world control document" (recently
> posted here) kept referring to "science-based" evidence. This is the kind
> of "science" they were referring to, i.e., cult stupidity and propaganda,
> like the asinine belief that "men can have babies."

And people like Hugh Huntzinger wondered why I didn't put too much faith
into the sources they provided. Apparently, even respected publications
with a history of basing their opinions strictly on facts can be
persuaded to become willful morons.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:25:35 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of
> inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in
> how they are treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running
> events allow the use of professional runners called pacesetters to
> help competitors perform their best. men are not permitted to act as
> pacesetters in many women's events because of the belief that they
> will make women "artificially faster," as though women were not
> actually doing the running themselves.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/spains-first-transgender-soccer-
team-makes-debut-regional-mens-league-2024-10-04/

That's sort of a man bites dog story. At least on their first outing the
transgenders playing with the real boys didn't do very well. I would guess
a used-to-be-men team playing against a women's team would do better.

On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:25:35 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
wrote in <vdv69f$1dbcc$1@dont-email.me>:

> So much for the "science." This crap was actually published in the
> so-called "Scientific" American magazine.
>
> The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of
> inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in
> how they are treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running
> events allow the use of professional runners called pacesetters to
> help competitors perform their best. men are not permitted to act as
> pacesetters in many women's events because of the belief that they
> will make women "artificially faster," as though women were not
> actually doing the running themselves.
>
> It has nothing to do with size, muscle mass, size of the lungs, weight
> distribution, etc. — the differences between men and women athletes'
> performances is all due to "bias."
>
> When "scientists" (so-called) get this stupid, real science doesn't
> exist. It's just a cult spreading their fairy-tale propaganda.
>
> Kind of like the Covid mRNA shot was "safe and effective." Until they
> admitted it wasn't. And masks and six foot distancing was "necessary"
> until the admitted they just spitballed it.
>
> You'll notice the U.N. in their "one world control document" (recently
> posted here) kept referring to "science-based" evidence. This is the
> kind of "science" they were referring to, i.e., cult stupidity and
> propaganda, like the asinine belief that "men can have babies."

And you felt the need to post about this in Linux advocacy because
it burns in your brain as a never-ending obsession?

When you go to Thanksgiving dinner, are you going to stand up and
announce to everybody what you think of the Scientific
American's article?

Ace Ventura voice: "Obsessed much?"

ObLinux:

$ apropos namespaces
cgroup_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux cgroup namespaces
gitnamespaces (7) - Git namespaces
ioctl_ns (2) - ioctl() operations for Linux namespaces
ipc_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux IPC namespaces
lsns (8) - list namespaces
mount_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux mount namespaces
namespaces (7) - overview of Linux namespaces
network_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux network namespaces
nsenter (1) - run program in different namespaces
pid_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux PID namespaces
time_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux time namespaces
unshare (1) - run program in new namespaces
user_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux user namespaces
uts_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux UTS namespaces
XML::NamespaceSupport (3pm) - A simple generic namespace proce...
_ _ _ _ _ _ _

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On 2024-10-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:25:35 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of
>> inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in
>> how they are treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running
>> events allow the use of professional runners called pacesetters to
>> help competitors perform their best. men are not permitted to act as
>> pacesetters in many women's events because of the belief that they
>> will make women "artificially faster," as though women were not
>> actually doing the running themselves.
>
> https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/spains-first-transgender-soccer-
> team-makes-debut-regional-mens-league-2024-10-04/
>
> That's sort of a man bites dog story. At least on their first outing the
> transgenders playing with the real boys didn't do very well. I would guess
> a used-to-be-men team playing against a women's team would do better.

Not doing "very well," is a nice way to put it. Lost 19-0. So these women
(probably on steroids) couldn't do well against men — which totally
disproves the bullshit in the "Scientific" American about "bias" being the
deciding factor instead of physical attributes.

From the linked article...

Fenix's first game of the season on Sept. 21 ended with a 19-0 defeat.
But for its fans and players, trans men having the right to play their
favourite sport on equal terms is far more important than the score.

Non "trans" women haven't done very well against boy's teams. (Not men,
boys.)

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/

In preparation for two upcoming friendlies against Russia, the U.S.
women’s national team played the FC Dallas U-15 boys academy team on
Sunday and fell 5-2, according to FC Dallas’ official website.

"U-15" means under 15 years old. Playing one of the best women's teams in
the world at the time.

Chris Everett, the best women's tennis player at the time, was asked how
well she did against her brother (who, at the time, was ranked 670 something
in the men's rankings). She said she never beat him.

I guess according to the so-called "scientists" that would be due to "bias"
as well.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

vallor wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:25:35 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
> wrote in <vdv69f$1dbcc$1@dont-email.me>:
>
> <snip>
>
> And you felt the need to post about this in Linux advocacy because
> it burns in your brain as a never-ending obsession?

Psychiatrist scribbles a note, looks up, and asks:

"Mr. B, is Woke here in the room with us now?"

> When you go to Thanksgiving dinner, are you going to stand up and
> announce to everybody what you think of the Scientific
> American's article?
>
> Ace Ventura voice: "Obsessed much?"

Ron's capacity for nuance seems to have completely atrophied.

> ObLinux:
>
> $ apropos namespaces
> cgroup_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux cgroup namespaces
> gitnamespaces (7) - Git namespaces
> ioctl_ns (2) - ioctl() operations for Linux namespaces
> ipc_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux IPC namespaces
> lsns (8) - list namespaces
> mount_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux mount namespaces
> namespaces (7) - overview of Linux namespaces
> network_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux network namespaces
> nsenter (1) - run program in different namespaces
> pid_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux PID namespaces
> time_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux time namespaces
> unshare (1) - run program in new namespaces
> user_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux user namespaces
> uts_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux UTS namespaces
> XML::NamespaceSupport (3pm) - A simple generic namespace proce...

Thanks for that! On my Arch Lenovo, it leaves off the XML but adds:

Tcl_AppendExportList (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_CreateNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_DeleteNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_Export (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_FindCommand (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_FindNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_ForgetImport (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_GetCurrentNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_GetGlobalNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_GetNamespaceUnknownHandler (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_Import (3) - manipulate namespaces
Tcl_SetNamespaceUnknownHandler (3) - manipulate namespaces

How nations fail:

--
Rebellion
When rulers take grain so that they may feast,
Their people become hungry;
When rulers take action to serve their own interests,
Their people become rebellious;
When rulers take lives so that their own lives are maintained,
Their people no longer fear death.
When people act without regard for their own lives
They overcome those who value only their own lives.
-- Lao Tse, "Tao Te Ching"

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>Ron's capacity for nuance seems to have completely atrophied.

He's got a point about the Orwellian nonsense that the radical
leftists in the media want us to believe.

--
"In other words, you take what they give you and you better like it."
- DumFSck, lying shamelessly

On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:03:16 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Thanks for that! On my Arch Lenovo, it leaves off the XML but adds:
>
> Tcl_AppendExportList (3) - manipulate namespaces Tcl_CreateNamespace (3)
> - manipulate namespaces

Did you install tcl? I see a snap namespace on Ubuntu and nmve and region
namespaces on Fedora along with the others but no tcl.

rbowman wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:03:16 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that! On my Arch Lenovo, it leaves off the XML but adds:
>>
>> Tcl_AppendExportList (3) - manipulate namespaces Tcl_CreateNamespace (3)
>> - manipulate namespaces
>
> Did you install tcl? I see a snap namespace on Ubuntu and nmve and region
> namespaces on Fedora along with the others but no tcl.

Tcl must have been installed as dependency. I don't directly use it.

--
Delores breezed along the surface of her life like a flat stone forever
skipping along smooth water, rippling reality sporadically but oblivious
to it consistently, until she finally lost momentum, sank, and due to an
overdose of flouride as a child which caused her to suffer from chronic
apathy, doomed herself to lie forever on the floor of her life as useless
as an appendix and as lonely as a five-hundred pound barbell in a
steroid-free fitness center.
-- Winning sentence, 1990 Bulwer-Lytton bad fiction contest.

On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 16:22:28 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> rbowman wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:03:16 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for that! On my Arch Lenovo, it leaves off the XML but adds:
>>>
>>> Tcl_AppendExportList (3) - manipulate namespaces Tcl_CreateNamespace
>>> (3)
>>> - manipulate namespaces
>>
>> Did you install tcl? I see a snap namespace on Ubuntu and nmve and
>> region namespaces on Fedora along with the others but no tcl.
>
> Tcl must have been installed as dependency. I don't directly use it.

Odd. Both the Fedora and Ubuntu machines had tclsh. I saved a script from

https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Show+me+an+example

as h.tcl and 'tclsh h.tcl' birngs up a little window. Blast from the very
distant past.

#! /bin/env tclsh
package require Tk
# Create the main message window
message .m -text {Hello Tcl!} -background white
pack .m -expand true -fill both -ipadx 100 -ipady 40

# Create the main menu bar with a Help-About entry
menu .menubar
menu .menubar.help -tearoff 0
..menubar add cascade -label Help -menu .menubar.help -underline 0
..menubar.help add command -label {About Hello ...} \
-accelerator F1 -underline 0 -command showAbout

# Define a procedure - an action for Help-About
proc showAbout {} {
tk_messageBox -message "Tcl/Tk\nHello Windows\nVersion 1.0" \
-title {About Hello}
}

# Configure the main window
wm title . {Hello Foundation Application}
.. configure -menu .menubar -width 200 -height 150
bind . {<Key F1>} {showAbout}

On 2024-10-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> vallor wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>
>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:25:35 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
>> wrote in <vdv69f$1dbcc$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> And you felt the need to post about this in Linux advocacy because
>> it burns in your brain as a never-ending obsession?
>
> Psychiatrist scribbles a note, looks up, and asks:
>
> "Mr. B, is Woke here in the room with us now?"
>
>> When you go to Thanksgiving dinner, are you going to stand up and
>> announce to everybody what you think of the Scientific
>> American's article?
>>
>> Ace Ventura voice: "Obsessed much?"
>
> Ron's capacity for nuance seems to have completely atrophied.

And Chris's lack of depth has gotten even shallower over time.

I guess he approves of Airhead Hyena Harris completely dodging press
confences so she can take part in an interview on an Airhead YouTube Blog
show to talk about her sex life. (Something called "Call Her Daddy", a
"broadcast" that most of the world never heard of until now.) Ironically,
the airhead interviewer asked Kamala why she isn't doing real press
conferences and apparently Hyena Harris "word saladed" her way through it
(as usual).

>> ObLinux:
>>
>> $ apropos namespaces
>> cgroup_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux cgroup namespaces
>> gitnamespaces (7) - Git namespaces
>> ioctl_ns (2) - ioctl() operations for Linux namespaces
>> ipc_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux IPC namespaces
>> lsns (8) - list namespaces
>> mount_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux mount namespaces
>> namespaces (7) - overview of Linux namespaces
>> network_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux network namespaces
>> nsenter (1) - run program in different namespaces
>> pid_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux PID namespaces
>> time_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux time namespaces
>> unshare (1) - run program in new namespaces
>> user_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux user namespaces
>> uts_namespaces (7) - overview of Linux UTS namespaces
>> XML::NamespaceSupport (3pm) - A simple generic namespace proce...
>
> Thanks for that! On my Arch Lenovo, it leaves off the XML but adds:
>
> Tcl_AppendExportList (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_CreateNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_DeleteNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_Export (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_FindCommand (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_FindNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_ForgetImport (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_GetCurrentNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_GetGlobalNamespace (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_GetNamespaceUnknownHandler (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_Import (3) - manipulate namespaces
> Tcl_SetNamespaceUnknownHandler (3) - manipulate namespaces
>
> How nations fail:
>

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-07, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>Ron's capacity for nuance seems to have completely atrophied.
>
> He's got a point about the Orwellian nonsense that the radical
> leftists in the media want us to believe.

If anyone is stupid enough to believe that women can't compete with men in
sports because of bias, instead of the differences in physical attributes,
then they absolute Woke morons. Definite NOT scientists — just Woke Cultists
pushing their insane agenda (which is what science has basically become).

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien