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* Alternative to Optical Storage????Nux Vomica
+* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Joel
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|| `* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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||   |+* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Paul
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||   |||`- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????The Natural Philosopher
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||   || |    | +* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????The Natural Philosopher
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||   || |    ||`- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Steve Hayes
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||   || |    `* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Joel
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||   || |      `* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Jeff Gaines
||   || |       `* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Joel
||   || |        `- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Jeff Gaines
||   || `- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Paul
||   |`- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????The Natural Philosopher
||   `- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Lawrence D'Oliveiro
|`* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Steve Hayes
| +- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Joel
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+* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????The Natural Philosopher
|`* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Nux Vomica
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| |`* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Nux Vomica
| | `- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????The Natural Philosopher
| `* Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????tom
|  `- Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????Joel
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Subject: Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????
From: tom
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:29 UTC
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:04:42 +0000
Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 07:33:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> >> Consumer SSDs are especially not
> >> long term.
> >>
> > Why not?
> >
>
> Because consumer SSDs require wear leveling and trimming which are
> both cheap technical gimmicks intended to foist an inferior technology
> onto an unsuspecting public.
Are using SSDs fine for archival as long as your filesystem implements
wear leveling and trimming?

Subject: Re: Alternative to Optical Storage????
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tom <tom@invalid.tld> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:04:42 +0000
>Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 07:33:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> >> Consumer SSDs are especially not
>> >> long term.
>> >>
>> > Why not?
>>
>> Because consumer SSDs require wear leveling and trimming which are
>> both cheap technical gimmicks intended to foist an inferior technology
>> onto an unsuspecting public.
>
>Are using SSDs fine for archival as long as your filesystem implements
>wear leveling and trimming?

Ignore "Nux Vomica" Larry here, he's too dense to even try using an
NVMe device, he'll claim the speed is unnecessary, well sure since he
literally boots to a blank screen, having to bring up a context menu
as a start menu, lacking a modern Web browser.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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