On 10/1/24 22:01, rbowman wrote:
> Personally, my supper was pulled pork that started with an identifiable
> piece of pig that was $4.29 / lb. I like to know what I'm eating.

Pork is $2 per pound down here. I buy them for making catfood.

You once told me I had no idea what you eat, and didn't add anything to
that comment. If you're about 75 and can run a few miles without
stopping I'd like to know your diet.

My diet, I've started to think (or rather wonder) might not be the best
for me at my age because pre-agricultural era men most probably didn't
live that long to see how that type of diet and habits work for them.
They often died of infections or injuries long before they hit the 70.

So now, I'm curious on how today's men who are doing well at ages above
70 handle diet and exercise and salt intake, etc.

If you think you're doing well for your age why don't you describe your
diet.

IransFinest: why don't you [rBowman] describe your diet.

Like any German, rBowman eats "processed" (cooked) cabbage & sausages.

"Processed" (cooked) rice stew, &| rice with kebab, are popular in Iran.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:19:59 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> If you think you're doing well for your age why don't you describe your
> diet.
>

At any age and all ages the best diet, proven through epidemiological
studies, is the Mediterranean diet.

Look it up.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:19:59 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> If you think you're doing well for your age why don't you describe your
>> diet.
>
>At any age and all ages the best diet, proven through epidemiological
>studies, is the Mediterranean diet.
>
>Look it up.

For someone not on MDMA, yeah. McD's et al are good enough, for ones
who are, properly, on it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-10-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 16:51:05 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> Relf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> rBowman: My supper was pulled pork, 4.29 $/lb.
>>>>
>>>> I'm doubting that price, 4.29 $/lb; Walmart wants double that.
>>>> Does it come in a can, or is it fresh ?
>>>
>>>If you parsed my post correctly you might have figured out it was a
>>>piece of raw meat that I put in a dutch oven and cooked over an
>>>environmentally unsafe gas range.
>>
>> That's close to how I make my pork. I buy a couple big racks of baby
>> back ribs and slow bake them for four hours (in a gas oven, of course).
>> Delicious and reasonably priced.
>
> I never cared for the cost/benefits analysis of ribs.

My wife likes to make BBQ pork ribs. I'm not a fan. Basically not a fan of
anything barbecued — at least not meat they slather with BBQ sauce.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-02, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> rbowman wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> That's close to how I make my pork. I buy a couple big racks of baby
>>> back ribs and slow bake them for four hours (in a gas oven, of course).
>>> Delicious and reasonably priced.
>>
>>I never cared for the cost/benefits analysis of ribs.
>
> In a restaurant, I would agree.
>
> IIRC in the grocery store they are only about $4 a pound.

I think pork chops are cheaper than ground beef, as well. I like them a lot
better than ribs.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

RonB wrote:
>>> That's close to how I make my pork. I buy a couple big racks of baby
>>> back ribs and slow bake them for four hours (in a gas oven, of course).
>>> Delicious and reasonably priced.
>>
>> I never cared for the cost/benefits analysis of ribs.
>
>My wife likes to make BBQ pork ribs. I'm not a fan. Basically not a fan of
>anything barbecued — at least not meat they slather with BBQ sauce.

I don't put sauce on my home-cooked ribs. They get a salt and pepper
rub before cooking, and that's it. It's a fatty meat, and has plenty
of flavor on it's own.

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
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> On 9/30/24 1:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>> news:vdedad$29778$1@dont-email.me...
>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes,
>>
>> They why aren't they being arrested for tax evasion?
>
> It isn't necessarily a criminal act requiring incarceration.

26USC7201

"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Scout wrote:
>
>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>
>>Cite
>
> Come on. Surely, you are aware of Trump paying no income taxes for 18
> fscking years. That ain't right.

Did he legally owe any income taxes?

If he had no taxable income.. then why would he pay taxes on it?

Oh, and before you ask, yes, everyone has some non-taxable income assuming
you have any income.

"Ed P" <esp@snet.n> wrote in message news:vdentf$2atfe$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/30/2024 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>
>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes
>>
>> Bullshit. The rich pay most of the taxes.
>
>
> They should pay the largest portion as they have the largest portion of
> the money

But having is not the same thing as taxable income.

If I have no income, how can I pay income tax on that no matter how much
money I might have?

Even if I have an income, as long as the income is non-taxable income... why
should I pay tax on it?

If you aren't filling out a 1040 then you are probably paying more in tax
than you need to.

"Ed P" <esp@snet.n> wrote in message news:vdetth$2bu0t$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/30/2024 2:18 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] Ed P <esp@snet.n> typed:
>>
>>> On 9/30/2024 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in
>>>>> news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. The rich pay most of the taxes.
>>>
>>>
>>> They should pay the largest portion as they have the largest portion of
>>> the money
>>
>> No. Everyone should pay the same.
>
> Correct. You are not interpreting that correctly.
>
> If I make $10,000 and pay $100 in taxes do you think a billionaire should
> pay the same $100?

Why should he have to pay more just because you're lazy?

>
> No, but they should be paying the same percentage.

Sounds good.. that means if you make $1 in a year then you should pay a
penny in income tax.. right?

"Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message
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> Ed P wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 9/30/2024 2:18 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> [Default] Ed P <esp@snet.n> typed:
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2024 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in
>>>>>> news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. The rich pay most of the taxes.
>>>>
>>>> They should pay the largest portion as they have the largest portion of
>>>> the money
>>>
>>> No. Everyone should pay the same.
>>
>> Correct. You are not interpreting that correctly.
>>
>> If I make $10,000 and pay $100 in taxes do you think a billionaire
>> should pay the same $100?
>>
>> No, but they should be paying the same percentage. They have more
>> money, this they pay more in whole dollars but are paying less as a
>> percentage of their income.
>
> They get to hide a lot of income in various tax shelters.

Well, shit, who would ever have thought that people would use the law to
their benefit.

So, question, why aren't you doing the same?

Do you like paying more tax than necessary?

For someone complaining they are paying too much in tax.. I would think you
would be motivated to see how to reduce that.

"Ed P" <esp@snet.n> wrote in message news:vdfbvr$2dt6d$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/30/2024 6:11 PM, Allen wrote:
>
>>
>> That's political word salad and laughably correct since many
>> billionaires don't get a paycheck like the working class. They, like
>> all business owners, take draws which are not taxed because it's
>> considered removal of profits and not personal income. Ever think that
>> through?
>
> It is still income

But not TAXABLE income.

But tell me. if your home appreciates in value should you have to pay some
portion of that income to the government?

What about stock? Should price increases count as income?

If the stock crashes, or your house burns down 3 years later do you get a
refund?

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:vdeh4t$29ret$3@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>>
>> "Frank" <"frank "@frank.net> wrote in message
>> news:vde0gd$274ne$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 9/30/2024 4:40 AM, T wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>> paying.
>>>>
>>>> This is just Fascist/Communist envy politics.
>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>>> are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>>> us first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And does the public realize that ultimately business
>>>> taxes are passed on to their customer? It is a way
>>>> of taxing the populace without it appearing on their
>>>> tax bill.
>>>
>>> It is simple, increase corporate tax and corporations take business
>>> and profits off shore where taxes are less.
>>
>> Yes, when corporate taxes are high enough to make the expense of such
>> a move worth it, they will.
>>
> Yet when taxes were high (93%) those corporations stayed here and
> invested in the US. It's when the taxes were lowered that they quit here
> and went to other countries.

Yep, because the effective rate was much lower under the 93% than it was
later.

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:vdfmrq$2itiv$4@dont-email.me...
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vdfg7b$2e575$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 9/30/24 11:20, Baxter wrote:
>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>> news:vdeh4t$29ret$3@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frank" <"frank "@frank.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:vde0gd$274ne$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 9/30/2024 4:40 AM, T wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is just Fascist/Communist envy politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>>>>> us first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And does the public realize that ultimately business
>>>>>> taxes are passed on to their customer? It is a way
>>>>>> of taxing the populace without it appearing on their
>>>>>> tax bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is simple, increase corporate tax and corporations take business
>>>>> and profits off shore where taxes are less.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, when corporate taxes are high enough to make the expense of
>>>> such a move worth it, they will.
>>>>
>>> Yet when taxes were high (93%) those corporations stayed here and
>>> invested in the US. It's when the taxes were lowered that they quit
>>> here and went to other countries.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You are forgetting that they had loop holes out the wazoo.
>> They did not pay that much actual taxes.
>
> I'm not forgetting that. Those "loopholes" are what actually kept them
> here and investing in the US

And yet.. see what happened when you closed the loopholes.. they left and
you lost ALL the tax from them.

You don't suppose the rich would do the same, if push came to shove?

>> When the loop
>> holes were plugged and the taxes lowered, they were
>> actually paying more taxes than under the 90+% rate.
>> So yes, of course, they moved.
>
> Nope. The lower the taxes, the less they gained from "loopholes" and the
> more money they had to move operations to other countries.

Except that many of those loopholes no longer existed at all, thus
increasing their effective tax rate.

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
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> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>> paying.
>>>>
>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>
>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>
>
> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated point.
>
> That point was "fair share". Its metric was "percentage of income", which
> is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.

Ok.. a flat rate income tax all other taxes shall be revoked.

Everyone pays the same rate on all income whether a billionaire or a beggar
on the street.

if unrealized income is taxed, then ALL unrealized income is taxed. From
cardboard box the beggar set up a home in, to stock value increases,
property and real estate. If you can't afford the tax you will have to
liquidate assets to pay it. If the value declines later.. you don't get a
refund.

Is that what you had in mind.. or are you going to start making it unfair?

"T" <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>>>>
>>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated point.
>>>>
>>>> That point was "fair share". Its metric was "percentage of income",
>>>> which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>
>> That's fair
>>
>
>
> Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???

What difference does that make?

Are you suggesting one should pay less than the other?

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>>
>>>> That's fair
>>>
>>>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>
>>What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>
>>It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>
>
> The only way it's "fair" is if you compare the accessibility and
> prices of fast food burgers, such as McD's McDouble, it provides a way
> to get beef but you sacrifice choice and quality.

Why should anyone have to sacrifice choice and quality????

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>>[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>>>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>>>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's fair
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>>>
>>>>What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>>>
>>>>It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>>>
>>>The only way it's "fair" is
>>
>>It's fair. The opinions of the mentally ill don't count here.
>
>
> You're a white piece of shit

So are you, but you don't hear him saying that.

>, cracker.

And Joel turns out to be a racist as well.

> Redneck

And a bigot

> greasy oinking pig.

and Zoomorphism

> Devil race of Satan.

and religious intolerance.

Amazing how intolerant Joel is about others... but question HIS actions and
he gets mad.

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
in message
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> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>
>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>>>>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>>>>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's fair
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>>>>
>>>>>What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>>>>
>>>>>It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>>>>
>>>>The only way it's "fair" is
>>>
>>>It's fair. The opinions of the mentally ill don't count here.
>>
>>
>>You're a white piece of shit, cracker. Redneck greasy oinking pig.
>>Devil race of Satan.
>
> ROFLMAO
>
> Looks like poor Joel eats a lot of hamburger, when he's not eating his
> "girlfriend's" sausage.

He probably wishes he could have a hamburger.. instead of sucking his
sustenance from his partner's 'sausage'.

"T" <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 10/1/24 03:27, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>
>>> On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater
>>>>>>>> percentage of
>>>>>>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That point was "fair share". Its metric was "percentage of income",
>>>>>> which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong.
>>>>
>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>>
>>>> That's fair
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>
>> What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>
>> It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>
>
> You misread me. I was criticizing the "equality of outcome" crowd.

Was there equality in input? If not how can you expect the same outcome?

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vdhuh5$2tick$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 10/1/24 03:27, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> [Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> [Default]Â Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater
>>>>>>>>> percentage of their income than a billionaire.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated
>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That point was "fair share". Its metric was "percentage of
>>>>>>> income", which is very consistent with how this topic is
>>>>>>> discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor
>>>>> person buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of
>>>>> them $15
>>>>>
>>>>> That's fair
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>>
>>> What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>>
>>> It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>>
>>
>> You misread me. I was criticizing the "equality of outcome" crowd.
>>
>
> If you think a Flat Tax is fair, then we should price EVERYTHING on
> percentage of income too - that would only be fair.

Why? Everyone pays the same tax rate, everyone pays the same price for what
they buy.

However, if you think paying a percentage of your income is unfair.

I propose we go with Baxter's point and impose a flat tax.

Everyone paying $21,000 per year in taxes.. those who can't pay will be
punished, evicted from the country or otherwise dealt with.
Any government assistance must be given to all or none.

There.. now it's perfectly fair. Happy????

Somehow. I doubt it, but then liberals are often short sighted in their
demands.

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
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> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>
>>T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vdhuh5$2tick$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 10/1/24 03:27, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> [Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> [Default]Â Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater
>>>>>>>>>> percentage of their income than a billionaire.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated
>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That point was "fair share". Its metric was "percentage of
>>>>>>>> income", which is very consistent with how this topic is
>>>>>>>> discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor
>>>>>> person buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of
>>>>>> them $15
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's fair
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>>>
>>>> What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>>>
>>>> It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>>>
>>>
>>> You misread me. I was criticizing the "equality of outcome" crowd.
>>>
>>
>>If you think a Flat Tax is fair, then we should price EVERYTHING on
>>percentage of income too - that would only be fair.
>
> No, you don't know what "fair" means.

See my response to his notion of fairness....

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vdfrj8$2e575$6@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> [Default]Â Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater
>>>>>>> percentage of their income than a billionaire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated
>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> That point was "fair share". Its metric was "percentage of
>>>>> income", which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>
>>> That's fair
>>>
>>
>>
>> Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>
>
> A rich person buys Wagyu beef for $800/pound, a poor person buys hamburger
> at $3/pound - a poor person doesn't eat steak.

And if the rich person wants a hamburger he buys hamburger at $3/pound

Sounds fair to me.

"citizen winston smith" <sss@example.de> wrote in message
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> On 10/1/2024 11:09 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>
>>> A rich person buys Wagyu beef for $800/pound, a poor person buys
>>> hamburger
>>> at $3/pound - a poor person doesn't eat steak.
>>
>> Where are you buying Wagyu for $800 a pound, you stupid fucktard?
>>
>> I can buy 16 oz. wagyu ribeyes all day long for $85.
>
> $20-24 at Wal Mart.

Wow, so Wal-Mart carries $800/pound Wagyu beef at $20-24/pound.. no wonder
that company gets al that business.