What DE do REAL MEN use? There is one and only one:

Xterm and Midnight Commander

https://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.html

http://midnight-commander.org/

Hey lackey! What more could you fucking need?

The fucking distro lackey needs a fucking whole lot more
to do his chicken-shit whatever he does.

But the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm
and Midnight Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.

All distro lackeys get fucked.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>What DE do REAL MEN use? There is one and only one:
>
>Xterm and Midnight Commander
>
>https://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.html
>
>http://midnight-commander.org/
>
>Hey lackey! What more could you fucking need?
>
>The fucking distro lackey needs a fucking whole lot more
>to do his chicken-shit whatever he does.
>
>But the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm
>and Midnight Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.
>
>All distro lackeys get fucked.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

You speak of "potent men", but your computer still sucks balls. You're
judging it the wrong way. "Distro lackeys" are dealing with something
superior.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> your computer still sucks balls.
>
>
keep your fag fantasies to yourself

% <percent@yohooo.not> wrote:

>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2
>
>Joel wrote:
>> your computer still sucks balls.
> >
> >
>keep your fag fantasies to yourself

You're apparently running an outdated Win8.1 build, you need to put
Linux on that machine, since 10 or 11 would obviously not work well
with it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 5/22/2024 1:35 PM, Lameass Larry Piet babbled his usual bullshit:

> the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm
> and Midnight Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.

Being not a 'REAL MAN' - and one that accomplishes only the most
pedestrian digital tasks - you also require:

a GUI newsreader
a GUI text editor
a GUI window manager
a GUI web browser
a GUI office suite
etc etc

or you're dead in the water.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/22/2024 1:35 PM, Lameass Larry Piet babbled his usual bullshit:
>
>> the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm
>> and Midnight Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.
>
>Being not a 'REAL MAN' - and one that accomplishes only the most
>pedestrian digital tasks - you also require:
>
> a GUI newsreader
> a GUI text editor
> a GUI window manager
> a GUI web browser
> a GUI office suite
> etc etc
>
>or you're dead in the water.

Larry is a funny character, yeah, really doesn't meld with the world
as it is. My computer makes his look lame and goofy.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:29:18 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<664e559d$0$8485$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On 5/22/2024 1:35 PM, Lameass Larry Piet babbled his usual bullshit:
>
>
>> the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm and Midnight
>> Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.
>
>
> Being not a 'REAL MAN' - and one that accomplishes only the most
> pedestrian digital tasks - you also require:
>
> a GUI newsreader a GUI text editor a GUI window manager a GUI web
> browser a GUI office suite etc etc
>
> or you're dead in the water.

Previously, he said he didn't even use a desktop environment.

Now he's pretending to have one (but it isn't one).

Meanwhile, he's a "distro lackey" relying on his Gentoo distro to
build his Linux kernel. If he were a REAL MAN, a POTENT MAN,
he'd be running Linux 6.9.1. (I don't think he knows how to
do that, though -- despite the instructions I posted several
weeks ago.)

Or he could show us all up, and run "Linux-next".

--
-v

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:29:18 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
><664e559d$0$8485$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>> On 5/22/2024 1:35 PM, Lameass Larry Piet babbled his usual bullshit:
>>
>>> the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm and Midnight
>>> Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.
>>
>> Being not a 'REAL MAN' - and one that accomplishes only the most
>> pedestrian digital tasks - you also require:
>>
>> a GUI newsreader a GUI text editor a GUI window manager a GUI web
>> browser a GUI office suite etc etc
>>
>> or you're dead in the water.
>
>Previously, he said he didn't even use a desktop environment.
>
>Now he's pretending to have one (but it isn't one).
>
>Meanwhile, he's a "distro lackey" relying on his Gentoo distro to
>build his Linux kernel. If he were a REAL MAN, a POTENT MAN,
>he'd be running Linux 6.9.1. (I don't think he knows how to
>do that, though -- despite the instructions I posted several
>weeks ago.)
>
>Or he could show us all up, and run "Linux-next".

So, Larry is talking to himself. That's what liquid-acid baby minds
are good for. It takes one a lot more special than him, to be on PBS.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 5/22/2024 4:53 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 5/22/2024 1:35 PM, Lameass Larry Piet babbled his usual bullshit:
>>
>>> the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm
>>> and Midnight Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.
>>
>> Being not a 'REAL MAN' - and one that accomplishes only the most
>> pedestrian digital tasks - you also require:
>>
>> a GUI newsreader
>> a GUI text editor
>> a GUI window manager
>> a GUI web browser
>> a GUI office suite
>> etc etc
>>
>> or you're dead in the water.
>
>
> Larry is a funny character, yeah, really doesn't meld with the world
> as it is. My computer makes his look lame and goofy.

He's very proud of, and equates masculinity with, running a stripped
down distro and using lots of cli commands. It's probably a reaction to
a domineering mother that broke his spirit growing up.

Le 22-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> What DE do REAL MEN use? There is one and only one:
>
> Xterm and Midnight Commander

You are really late. Xterm is obsolete. Midnight Commander is useless.

> Hey lackey! What more could you fucking need?

Than Midnight Commander? It's too heavy. It's faster to use ls, cd and
the old good commands with a good use of history. I'm pretty sure the
only way in which you are using your history file is with your arrow
keys.

Than Xterm? A lot. Unlike you, I don't want to use my mouse when I'm
using my terminal. So xterm is deprecated.

I can live with Alacritty which help me scroll up and copy/past the
results of my commands without using my mouse.

But when I can, I'd rather use Kitty which provides more possibilities. The
possibility to open the result of a command directly in vim is great.
The possibility to open a file following a link thanks to a shortcut is
great.

> But the REAL MAN, the POTENT MAN, only requires xterm
> and Midnight Commander to accomplish his digital miracles.

The last time you provided a video of your limitations, you weren't able
to use Midnight Commander. To find a file with your shortcuts, you
didn't used xterm and Midnight Commander, but your mouse to open a
graphical text editor to copy its result in your terminal. So by your
own definition, you are not a real man a potent man or anything at all
but a lackey of your mouse.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

On 24 May 2024 17:53:11 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> You are really late. Xterm is obsolete. Midnight Commander is useless.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Only for technically incompetent idiots like you.

>
> Than Midnight Commander? It's too heavy.
>

That's just your sluggish intelligence. MC, in the right hands,
is blazingly fast and efficient. It will beat any FM hands down.

But, of course, you don't have the "right hands."

>
> Than Xterm? A lot. Unlike you, I don't want to use my mouse when I'm
> using my terminal. So xterm is deprecated.
>

Then configure it, idiot.

See below.

===================================
Xterm build configuration
===================================

To assign environment variables (e.g., CC, CFLAGS...), specify them as
VAR=VALUE. See below for descriptions of some of the useful variables.

Defaults for the options are specified in brackets.

Configuration:
-h, --help display this help and exit
--help=short display options specific to this package
--help=recursive display the short help of all the included packages
-V, --version display version information and exit
-q, --quiet, --silent do not print `checking...' messages
--cache-file=FILE cache test results in FILE [disabled]
-C, --config-cache alias for `--cache-file=config.cache'
-n, --no-create do not create output files
--srcdir=DIR find the sources in DIR [configure dir or `..']

Installation directories:
--prefix=PREFIX install architecture-independent files in PREFIX
[/usr/local]
--exec-prefix=EPREFIX install architecture-dependent files in EPREFIX
[PREFIX]

By default, `make install' will install all the files in
`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/lib' etc. You can specify
an installation prefix other than `/usr/local' using `--prefix',
for instance `--prefix=$HOME'.

For better control, use the options below.

Fine tuning of the installation directories:
--bindir=DIR user executables [EPREFIX/bin]
--sbindir=DIR system admin executables [EPREFIX/sbin]
--libexecdir=DIR program executables [EPREFIX/libexec]
--datarootdir=DIR read-only architecture-independent data [PREFIX/share]
--datadir=DIR read-only architecture-independent data [DATAROOTDIR]
--sysconfdir=DIR read-only single-machine data [PREFIX/etc]
--sharedstatedir=DIR modifiable architecture-independent data [PREFIX/com]
--localstatedir=DIR modifiable single-machine data [PREFIX/var]
--runstatedir=DIR extra definition of runtime data [LOCALSTATEDIR/run]
--libdir=DIR object code libraries [EPREFIX/lib]
--includedir=DIR C header files [PREFIX/include]
--oldincludedir=DIR C header files for non-gcc [/usr/include]
--infodir=DIR info documentation [DATAROOTDIR/info]
--mandir=DIR man documentation [DATAROOTDIR/man]

Program names:
--program-prefix=PREFIX prepend PREFIX to installed program names
--program-suffix=SUFFIX append SUFFIX to installed program names
--program-transform-name=PROGRAM run sed PROGRAM on installed program names

X features:
--x-includes=DIR X include files are in DIR
--x-libraries=DIR X library files are in DIR

System types:
--build=BUILD configure for building on BUILD [guessed]
--host=HOST build programs to run on HOST [BUILD]

Optional Features:
--disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as --enable-FEATURE=no)
--enable-FEATURE[=ARG] include FEATURE [ARG=yes]

Optional Packages:
--with-PACKAGE[=ARG] use PACKAGE [ARG=yes]
--without-PACKAGE do not use PACKAGE (same as --with-PACKAGE=no)

Compile/Install Options:
--disable-full-tgetent disable check for full tgetent function
--with-app-class=XXX override X applications class (default XTerm)
--with-app-defaults=DIR directory in which to install resource files (EPREFIX/lib/X11/app-defaults)
--with-icon-name=XXXX override icon name (default: mini.xterm)
--with-icon-symlink=XXX make symbolic link for icon name (default: xterm)
--with-pixmapdir=DIR directory in which to install pixmaps (DATADIR/pixmaps)
--with-icondir=DIR directory in which to install icons for desktop
--with-icon-theme=XXX install icons into desktop theme (hicolor)
--disable-desktop disable install of xterm desktop files
--with-desktop-category=XXX one or more desktop catgories or auto
--with-reference=XXX program to use as permissions-reference
--with-xterm-symlink=XXX make symbolic link to installed xterm
--disable-openpty disable openpty, prefer other interfaces
--disable-setuid disable setuid in xterm, do not install setuid/setgid
--disable-setgid disable setgid in xterm, do not install setuid/setgid
--with-setuid=XXX use the given setuid user
--with-utmp-setgid=XXX use setgid to match utmp/utmpx file
--with-utempter use utempter library for access to utmp
--with-utmp-path=XXX use XXX rather than auto for utmp path
--with-wtmp-path=XXX use XXX rather than auto for wtmp path
--with-tty-group=XXX use XXX for the tty-group
--with-x use the X Window System
--with-pkg-config{=path} enable/disable use of pkg-config
--with-xpm=DIR use Xpm library for colored icon, may specify path
--without-xinerama do not use Xinerama extension for multiscreen support
--with-Xaw3d link with Xaw 3d library
--with-Xaw3dxft link with Xaw 3d xft library
--with-neXtaw link with neXT Athena library
--with-XawPlus link with Athena-Plus library
--disable-xcursor disable cursorTheme resource
--enable-narrowproto enable narrow prototypes for X libraries
--disable-imake disable use of imake for definitions
--with-man2html=XXX use XXX rather than groff
Terminal Configuration:
--with-terminal-id=V set default decTerminalID (default: vt420)
--with-terminal-type=T set default $TERM (default: xterm)
--enable-backarrow-key set default backarrowKey resource (default: true)
--enable-backarrow-is-erase set default backarrowKeyIsErase resource (default: false)
--enable-delete-is-del set default deleteIsDEL resource (default: maybe)
--enable-pty-erase set default ptyInitialErase resource (default: maybe)
--enable-alt-sends-esc set default altSendsEscape resource (default: no)
--enable-meta-sends-esc set default metaSendsEscape resource (default: no)
--with-own-terminfo=P set default $TERMINFO (default: from environment)
--enable-env-terminfo setenv $TERMINFO if --with-own-terminfo gives value
Optional Features:
--disable-active-icon disable X11R6.3 active-icon feature
--disable-ansi-color disable ANSI color
--disable-16-color disable 16-color support
--disable-256-color disable 256-color support
--disable-direct-color disable direct-color support
--disable-88-color disable 88-color support
--disable-blink-cursor disable support for blinking cursor
--enable-broken-osc allow broken Linux OSC-strings
--disable-broken-st disallow broken string-terminators
--enable-builtin-xpms compile-in icon data
--disable-c1-print disallow -k8 option for printable 128-159
--disable-bold-color disable PC-style mapping of bold colors
--disable-color-class disable separate color class resources
--disable-color-mode disable default colorMode resource
--disable-highlighting disable support for color highlighting
--disable-doublechars disable support for double-size chars
--disable-boxchars disable fallback-support for box chars
--disable-exec-selection disable "exec-formatted" and "exec-selection" actions
--enable-exec-xterm enable "spawn-new-terminal" action
--enable-double-buffer enable double-buffering in default resources
--disable-freetype disable freetype library-support
--with-freetype-config configure script to use for FreeType
--with-freetype-cflags -D/-I options for compiling with FreeType
--with-freetype-libs -L/-l options to link FreeType
--enable-hp-fkeys enable support for HP-style function keys
--enable-sco-fkeys enable support for SCO-style function keys
--disable-sun-fkeys disable support for Sun-style function keys
--disable-fifo-lines disable FIFO-storage for saved-lines
--disable-i18n disable internationalization
--disable-initial-erase disable setup for stty erase
--disable-input-method disable input-method
--enable-load-vt-fonts enable load-vt-fonts() action
--enable-logging enable logging
--enable-logfile-exec enable exec'd logfile filter
--disable-maximize disable actions for iconify/deiconify/maximize/restore
--disable-num-lock disable NumLock keypad support
--disable-paste64 disable get/set base64 selection data
--disable-pty-handshake disable pty-handshake support
--disable-readline-mouse disable support for mouse in readline applications
--disable-regex disable regular-expression selections
--with-pcre2 use PCRE2 for regular-expressions
--with-pcre use PCRE for regular-expressions
--disable-rightbar disable right-scrollbar support
--disable-samename disable check for redundant name-change
--disable-selection-ops disable selection-action operations
--disable-session-mgt disable support for session management
--enable-status-line enable support for status-line
--disable-tcap-fkeys disable termcap function-keys support
--disable-tcap-query disable compiled-in termcap-query support
--disable-tek4014 disable tek4014 emulation
--enable-toolbar compile-in toolbar for pulldown menus
--disable-vt52 disable VT52 emulation
--disable-wide-attrs disable wide-attribute support
--disable-wide-chars disable wide-character support
--enable-16bit-chars enable 16-bit character support
--enable-mini-luit enable mini-luit (built-in Latin9 support)
--disable-luit enable luit filter (Unicode translation)
--enable-dabbrev enable dynamic-abbreviation support
--enable-dec-locator enable DECterm Locator support
--disable-screen-dumps disable XHTML and SVG screen dumps
--enable-regis-graphics enable ReGIS graphics support
--disable-sixel-graphics disable sixel graphics support
--disable-print-graphics disable screen dump to sixel support
--disable-rectangles disable VT420 rectangle support
--disable-ziconbeep disable -ziconbeep option
Testing/development Options:
--enable-trace test: set to enable debugging traces
--with-dmalloc test: use Gray Watson's dmalloc library
--with-dbmalloc test: use Conor Cahill's dbmalloc library
--with-valgrind test: use valgrind
--disable-leaks test: free permanent memory, analyze leaks
--disable-echo do not display "compiling" commands
--enable-xmc-glitch test: enable xmc magic-cookie emulation
--enable-warnings test: turn on gcc compiler warnings
--enable-stdnoreturn enable C11 _Noreturn feature for diagnostics
--disable-rpath-hack don't add rpath options for additional libraries

Le 24-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 24 May 2024 17:53:11 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> You are really late. Xterm is obsolete. Midnight Commander is useless.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> Only for technically incompetent idiots like you.

The difference between us is I know the tools you are striving to try to
use when you don't know the basics.

>> Than Midnight Commander? It's too heavy.
>
> That's just your sluggish intelligence. MC, in the right hands,
> is blazingly fast and efficient. It will beat any FM hands down.
>
> But, of course, you don't have the "right hands."

Let say it another way. Midnight Commander is a TUI making you believe
you don't need a GUI. But you're, once again, a useless GUI addict
trying to say that CLI is best when you are unable to use it.

You pretend you have the "right hands" to use a terminal, but you can't
because one of your hand is glued to your mouse. So you have only one
hand to use your terminal and like your videos show: it's inefficient.

>> Than Xterm? A lot. Unlike you, I don't want to use my mouse when I'm
>> using my terminal. So xterm is deprecated.
>
> Then configure it, idiot.

There are limitations with xterm. Not only configuration issues. But as
your knowledge is limited to the GUI environment, you don't know the
alternatives. Alacritty and kitty are far superior to xterm for reasons
you'll never be able to imagine. Xterm is like you, stuck in the past.
If I don't need my mouse it's not because it's too modern, it's because
it's less efficient. And is was obvious in your videos: you are slow in
your way to use Linux.

There are new things that are better than old ones and I'm using them.
Not because they are new but because they are more efficient. When you
are using old stuff only because you can't follow the modernity.

> See below.

There is nothing interesting. Tell me: how can I use my keyboard to copy
the result of the last command with xterm? Without using my mouse? It's
not displayed in your limited configuration. With Alacritty, it's easy:
[Shit]+[Ctrl]+[Space], [arrow up], [Shift]+[V] and [Y] (the [Shift]+[V]
and [Y] are the same as in vim, so there is nothing new to learn). In
Kitty [Shift]+[CTRL]+[G] and the result is opened in vim, so I use vim
to copy it.

With xterm, it's impossible. If your last command results in an error
message, you have to use your mouse to copy it and paste it in your
browser. Because it's, like you, too limited.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

On 24 May 2024 20:47:08 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> There is nothing interesting. Tell me: how can I use my keyboard to copy
> the result of the last command with xterm?
>

Just do:

command > file 2>&1

This has been the case with Unix since time immemorial.

You are just an idiot that cannot use basic tools.

Take your "modern" anti-Unix solutions and stuff them
up your rectum.

I am more productive with xterm and mc than you could
ever dream with your "modern" garbage.

Le 24-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 24 May 2024 20:47:08 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> There is nothing interesting. Tell me: how can I use my keyboard to copy
>> the result of the last command with xterm?
>>
>
> Just do:
>
> command > file 2>&1
>
> This has been the case with Unix since time immemorial.

What a joke. You are still able to surprise me.

It's like you, slow, inefficient and useless. It would be faster to use
a mouse thant to do it your way and that's why you still use a GUI when
you pretend a CLI is better: because you don't know the right tools.

I provided you two ways (one in Alacritty and one in Kitty) to copy the
result of the last command with a few shortcut to be able to paste it in
a browser. With your way, I would have to launch again the command and
changing the way it's called to be able to have the error message saved
in a file. Then, I have to open the file with vim. Then I have to copy
the message from vim. Then, I have to delete the file to avoid having
too many garbage on my disk.

So, thanks for proving my point, with Kitty or Alacritty, it's twice
faster than with xterm and I'm right to tell it's obsolete thanks for
your confirmation.

> You are just an idiot that cannot use basic tools.

I'm using the right tools. You don't use the right tools because you
don't know them. And like your videos show, you don't use the basic
tools neither because your way is too clumsy and it's why you are using
a GUI when a CLI would be better.

> Take your "modern" anti-Unix solutions and stuff them up your rectum.

Alacritty and Kitty are terminals, not GUI. You are the one using GUI
pretending you are using CLI.

And you don't understand the UNIX way. The Unix way is to exchange
between application. Which xterm can't do as you proved with your
answer. Unlike Alacritty and Kitty which provide a lot of good way to be
efficient.

Your way is the exact reason the -highthorse believe that apple is
faster than the command line.

> I am more productive with xterm and mc than you could
> ever dream with your "modern" garbage.

Nope. You are ten time slower than me. I saw it in your video. In your
video, you didn't used midnight commander because you are unable to
really use it. In your video, you barely used a terminal because you
can't master it. If you had used only your terminal and midnight
commander in your video (like you pretend you do), you would have been a
hundred time slower than me just struggling to understand how to use it.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

On 24 May 2024 21:59:05 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> So, thanks for proving my point, with Kitty or Alacritty, it's twice
> faster than with xterm and I'm right to tell it's obsolete thanks for
> your confirmation.
>

It's not faster than this:

ls -l | xclip

Now I can paste the output anywhere.

Furthermore, I can specify which of the 3 clipboards to use:

ls -l | xclip -selection <primary | secondary | clipboard>

Furthermore again, I can specify the format of the save:

xclip -o -t 'image/png' -selection clipboard > equation.png

The possibilities are endless.

As I said, you cannot use basic Unix tools and you need that
"modern" junk.

As I said again, I am more productive with basic tools than
you could ever be with your "modern" junk.

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On 24 May 2024 21:59:05 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> So, thanks for proving my point, with Kitty or Alacritty, it's twice
>> faster than with xterm and I'm right to tell it's obsolete thanks for
>> your confirmation.
>
>It's not faster than this:
>
>ls -l | xclip
>
>Now I can paste the output anywhere.
>
>Furthermore, I can specify which of the 3 clipboards to use:
>
>ls -l | xclip -selection <primary | secondary | clipboard>
>
>Furthermore again, I can specify the format of the save:
>
>xclip -o -t 'image/png' -selection clipboard > equation.png
>
>The possibilities are endless.
>
>As I said, you cannot use basic Unix tools and you need that
>"modern" junk.
>
>As I said again, I am more productive with basic tools than
>you could ever be with your "modern" junk.

You are an obsessive freak of nature, you brag about committing sex
crimes, your computer is goofy in multiple respects, if you had a God
damn CLUE you'd hear me, but you won't. You'll just be the narcissist
nerd, for life. You suck.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-05-24 5:59 p.m., Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 24-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>> On 24 May 2024 20:47:08 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There is nothing interesting. Tell me: how can I use my keyboard to copy
>>> the result of the last command with xterm?
>>>
>>
>> Just do:
>>
>> command > file 2>&1
>>
>> This has been the case with Unix since time immemorial.
>
> What a joke. You are still able to surprise me.
>
> It's like you, slow, inefficient and useless. It would be faster to use
> a mouse thant to do it your way and that's why you still use a GUI when
> you pretend a CLI is better: because you don't know the right tools.
>
> I provided you two ways (one in Alacritty and one in Kitty) to copy the
> result of the last command with a few shortcut to be able to paste it in
> a browser. With your way, I would have to launch again the command and
> changing the way it's called to be able to have the error message saved
> in a file. Then, I have to open the file with vim. Then I have to copy
> the message from vim. Then, I have to delete the file to avoid having
> too many garbage on my disk.
>
> So, thanks for proving my point, with Kitty or Alacritty, it's twice
> faster than with xterm and I'm right to tell it's obsolete thanks for
> your confirmation.
>
>> You are just an idiot that cannot use basic tools.
>
> I'm using the right tools. You don't use the right tools because you
> don't know them. And like your videos show, you don't use the basic
> tools neither because your way is too clumsy and it's why you are using
> a GUI when a CLI would be better.
>
>> Take your "modern" anti-Unix solutions and stuff them up your rectum.
>
> Alacritty and Kitty are terminals, not GUI. You are the one using GUI
> pretending you are using CLI.
>
> And you don't understand the UNIX way. The Unix way is to exchange
> between application. Which xterm can't do as you proved with your
> answer. Unlike Alacritty and Kitty which provide a lot of good way to be
> efficient.
>
> Your way is the exact reason the -highthorse believe that apple is
> faster than the command line.
>
>> I am more productive with xterm and mc than you could
>> ever dream with your "modern" garbage.
>
> Nope. You are ten time slower than me. I saw it in your video. In your
> video, you didn't used midnight commander because you are unable to
> really use it. In your video, you barely used a terminal because you
> can't master it. If you had used only your terminal and midnight
> commander in your video (like you pretend you do), you would have been a
> hundred time slower than me just struggling to understand how to use it.

Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>On 2024-05-24 5:59 p.m., Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 24-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>>> On 24 May 2024 20:47:08 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is nothing interesting. Tell me: how can I use my keyboard to copy
>>>> the result of the last command with xterm?
>>>
>>> Just do:
>>>
>>> command > file 2>&1
>>>
>>> This has been the case with Unix since time immemorial.
>>
>> What a joke. You are still able to surprise me.
>>
>> It's like you, slow, inefficient and useless. It would be faster to use
>> a mouse thant to do it your way and that's why you still use a GUI when
>> you pretend a CLI is better: because you don't know the right tools.
>>
>> I provided you two ways (one in Alacritty and one in Kitty) to copy the
>> result of the last command with a few shortcut to be able to paste it in
>> a browser. With your way, I would have to launch again the command and
>> changing the way it's called to be able to have the error message saved
>> in a file. Then, I have to open the file with vim. Then I have to copy
>> the message from vim. Then, I have to delete the file to avoid having
>> too many garbage on my disk.
>>
>> So, thanks for proving my point, with Kitty or Alacritty, it's twice
>> faster than with xterm and I'm right to tell it's obsolete thanks for
>> your confirmation.
>>
>>> You are just an idiot that cannot use basic tools.
>>
>> I'm using the right tools. You don't use the right tools because you
>> don't know them. And like your videos show, you don't use the basic
>> tools neither because your way is too clumsy and it's why you are using
>> a GUI when a CLI would be better.
>>
>>> Take your "modern" anti-Unix solutions and stuff them up your rectum.
>>
>> Alacritty and Kitty are terminals, not GUI. You are the one using GUI
>> pretending you are using CLI.
>>
>> And you don't understand the UNIX way. The Unix way is to exchange
>> between application. Which xterm can't do as you proved with your
>> answer. Unlike Alacritty and Kitty which provide a lot of good way to be
>> efficient.
>>
>> Your way is the exact reason the -highthorse believe that apple is
>> faster than the command line.
>>
>>> I am more productive with xterm and mc than you could
>>> ever dream with your "modern" garbage.
>>
>> Nope. You are ten time slower than me. I saw it in your video. In your
>> video, you didn't used midnight commander because you are unable to
>> really use it. In your video, you barely used a terminal because you
>> can't master it. If you had used only your terminal and midnight
>> commander in your video (like you pretend you do), you would have been a
>> hundred time slower than me just struggling to understand how to use it.
>
>Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?

Good question, why do any of us waste time, with any others of us? I
know you killfiled me for being a fag, but why can't we just form a
consensus that, at least, Larry's computer sucks balls. It's just too
ridiculous, the way he preaches his fried-brain mantra of using
Gentoo, as if using a modern distro, like Mint, is so wrong.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Le 25-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 24 May 2024 21:59:05 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> So, thanks for proving my point, with Kitty or Alacritty, it's twice
>> faster than with xterm and I'm right to tell it's obsolete thanks for
>> your confirmation.
>>
>
> It's not faster than this:
>
> ls -l | xclip

It is, because you put the full output of your clipboard when you need
only a part of it. So, now, you need open a text editor, to put the
content of your clipboard in a text editor, to copy only the part you
need and to close your text editor. Once again, you are at the bottom
bug you still manage to dive. And if you don't know you will need the
output, you have to launch your command again, with the piped command.

For example, I have a lot of CD ripped on my computer. Some of them with
characters unavailable on my keyboard. So, when I want to go in their
directory, I do a ls and then, I can use its output to write it on
the command line. Simply and directly with my way, with a lot of extra
steps with your way.

> The possibilities are endless.

The examples you provide are mostly useless and become clumsy in a real
world usage.

> As I said,

You can say it at length, it won't be enough for it to become truth.

> you cannot use basic Unix tools and you need that "modern" junk.

I am using the basic tools in my terminal, you are the one using
midnight commander. My terminal has more features than xterm, it's still
a terminal. You are using a TUI to imagine you are using the basic
tools, but midnight commander is not a basic tool: it's as close as a
GUI as possible. You can't use basic tools, you rely too heavily on your
mouse.

The modern tools provide easier ways to use basic tools. For example,
I'm using heavily the history with [CTRL]+[R] to find out the commands I
already wrote more easily. That's old good stuff. Combined with fzf,
which is modern stuff, it's a killing feature to use efficiently the
shell history. It's the full Unix way to use good applications
combined together.

> As I said again,

You can keep repeating your stupidities, they wont become true anytime.

> I am more productive with basic tools than you could ever be with your
> "modern" junk.

Nope. Your videos show you are unable to use basic stuff. What you
provided were examples you found on Internet without being able to
use them. You don't understand them and you can't understand why they
are so useless in the way you tell to use them.

The only way the commands you provided can be useful is on a script,
which is not the same thing as using the terminal.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Le 25-05-2024, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> a écrit :
>
> Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?

He's funny.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>Le 25-05-2024, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> a écrit :
>>
>> Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?
>
>He's funny.

If by "funny" you mean "brain damaged".

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-05-25 7:13 a.m., Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 25-05-2024, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> a écrit :
>>
>> Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?
>
> He's funny.

Only because he lacks the intelligence to realize that everyone is
laughing at how stupid he is.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>On 2024-05-25 7:13 a.m., Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 25-05-2024, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?
>>
>> He's funny.
>
>Only because he lacks the intelligence to realize that everyone is
>laughing at how stupid he is.

Narcissists delude themselves that the others don't have the mind that
they do. Meanwhile, I don't want his fried mind.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>
>>> Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?
>>
>> He's funny.
>
>Only because he lacks the intelligence to realize that everyone is
>laughing at how stupid he is.

You consider the vile DumFSck troll to be "funny", and he's just as
stupid and far shittier...

--
"The middle 32 characters look very random - but it looks like you
stop at the letter 'f'.
* why stop at letter f?" - DumFSck, putting his ignorance on display

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Stéphane, pourquoi gaspilles-tu autant de temps avec ce crétin ?
>>>
>>> He's funny.
>>
>>Only because he lacks the intelligence to realize that everyone is
>>laughing at how stupid he is.
>
>You consider the vile DumFSck troll to be "funny", and he's just as
>stupid and far shittier...

That's only so true - DFS does say racist things, which I don't like,
but he's a non-Trump Republican, which I *do* like, he's not as edgy
with his views as some would be. Larry is ultimately more obnoxious,
because he doesn't advocate, he just spews his weirdo, obsessive shit
about Linux, hell I'll take DFS's pro-Windows crap over that. That's
how annoying Larry is, he's just a dumb turd, with a goofy computer,
and talks smack about everyone, like a dumb infant.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.