On 9/30/24 1:43 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 9/30/2024 1:21 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>> news:vdedjd$29778$3@dont-email.me...
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>> paying.
>>>>
>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>
>> Cite
>>
>
>>
>>
>>
>
> https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/stories/do-the-rich-pay-their-fair-
> share/
>
> According to a 2021 White House study, the wealthiest 400 billionaire
> families in the U.S. paid an average federal individual tax rate of just
> 8.2 percent. For comparison, the average American taxpayer in the same
> year paid 13 percent.

Predictable counterpoint attempt:
"but that's not showing us that it was *illegal*!".

But what it doesn't do is to acknowledge that such outcomes are an
outcome of lobbying power to change the laws to favor them, and how the
tax code has provisions that benefit a few wealthy donors, at the
general expense of everyone else.

FWIW, a family member worked at one point for the IRS - their comment
was that it is technically illegal to have a section of tax code that
written specifically to benefit only one taxpayer ... and the workaround
that exists is to have intersecting qualification requirements where
several benefit from each section, and its only a "coincidence" that
only one person benefits from being perfectly positioned in the "BINGO"
overlap in the middle where all qualifications are met.

-hh

On 9/30/24 1:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> news:vdedad$29778$1@dont-email.me...
>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>
>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>
>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>
>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>> first.
>>>
>>
>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes,
>
> They why aren't they being arrested for tax evasion?

It isn't necessarily a criminal act requiring incarceration.

>
>> and the IRS has been so short
>> funded they couldn't go after anyone.
>
> So they have fired all the auditors?

No, its been years of deliberate under funding of the Agency, usually
done by the GOP for their wealthy constituents. Fortunately, a recent
budget cycle restored some of those cuts.

As Baxter posted on this thread earlier:

[quote]
IRS says it has recovered $1.3 billion in unpaid taxes from rich
Americans. The IRS said Friday that it has recovered $1.3 billion in
unpaid taxes from high-income Americans who had either failed to file
their returns or who hadn't fully paid what they owed.

<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-recovered-1-3-billion-unpaid-taxes-wealthy-taxpayers-audits/>

[/quote]

Likewise, my accountant told me this past spring that his telephone wait
times for his calls to the IRS were waaaaaay down this past year.

-hh

On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default]  Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>> paying.
>>>>
>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>
>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>
>
> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated point.
>
> That point was "fair share".  Its metric was "percentage of income",
> which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.

Yes we know you indexing/social class warriors are all about penance for
success.

The only literally fair tax is a low rate national flat tax, period.

> So instead of ignoring the point in the context made, could you please
> try addressing the point that they were making?

Could you just fuck the hell off and go back to lurking the PX?

> Because deflection attempts make you sound like you know that their
> point is true, and you aren't even honest enough to acknowledge it.
>
> -hh

Unable to secure a victory for "indexing" on any merits, real or
perceived, you lamely try to cast his unwillingness to micro-debate a
typical leftard taxing point.

You vermin are consummate hypocrites!

On 9/30/2024 2:43 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 9/30/24 1:43 PM, Ed P wrote:
>> On 9/30/2024 1:21 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vdedjd$29778$3@dont-email.me...
>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>> paying.
>>>>>
>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater
>>>> percentage of
>>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>>
>>> Cite
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/stories/do-the-rich-pay-their-fair- share/
>>
>> According to a 2021 White House study, the wealthiest 400 billionaire
>> families in the U.S. paid an average federal individual tax rate of
>> just 8.2 percent. For comparison, the average American taxpayer in the
>> same year paid 13 percent.
>
>
> Predictable counterpoint attempt:
> "but that's not showing us that it was *illegal*!".
>
> But what it doesn't do is to acknowledge that such outcomes are an
> outcome of lobbying power to change the laws to favor them, and how the
> tax code has provisions that benefit a few wealthy donors, at the
> general expense of everyone else.

Sort of like the electoral college benefits a few less populous states, eh?

> FWIW, a family member worked at one point for the IRS

< SMH - unsurprising familial deep statism...>

> - their comment
> was that it is technically illegal to have a section of tax code that
> written specifically to benefit only one taxpayer ... and the workaround

The entire IRS is a sham and a private corporation beholden to Yuro
banksters that must be abolished!

Learn, you fucking blood tick:

https://dn790003.ca.archive.org/0/items/pdfy--Pori1NL6fKm2SnY/The%20Creature%20From%20Jekyll%20Island.pdf

"A superb analysis deserving serious attention by all
Americans. Be prepared for one heck of a journey through time
and mind."
Ron Paul, member of Congress
House Banking Committee
"What every American needs to know about central bank
power. A gripping adventure into the secret world of the
international banking cartel."
Mark Thornton, Asst. Professor of Economics,
Auburn University; Coordinator Academic Affairs,
Ludwig von Mises Institute
"A magnificent accomplishment - a train-load of heavy history,
organized so well and written in such a relaxed and easy style
that it captivated me. I hated to put it down. "
Dan Smoot
Publisher/Editor, Dan Smoot Report
"As a career banker and president of a bank consulting firm, I
thought I had a good understanding of the Federal Reserve. But
this book changed the way I view our entire monetary system."
Marilyn MacGruder Barn wall
Grand Junction, Colorado

On 9/30/2024 2:47 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 9/30/24 1:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>> news:vdedad$29778$1@dont-email.me...
>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes,
>>
>> They why aren't they being arrested for tax evasion?
>
> It isn't necessarily a criminal act requiring incarceration.

Talk to Wesley Snipes abut that, dipshit.

>>
>>> and the IRS has been so short
>>> funded they couldn't go after anyone.
>>
>> So they have fired all the auditors?
>
> No, its been years of deliberate under funding of the Agency, usually
> done by the GOP for their wealthy constituents.  Fortunately, a recent
> budget cycle restored some of those cuts.

Yes, the IRS is a partisan payback tool of the left exclusively, as Lois
Lerner showed us.

> As Baxter posted on this thread earlier:
>
> [quote]
> IRS says it has recovered $1.3 billion in unpaid taxes from rich
> Americans.

Baxturd is a nutless, greaseball Portlandia marxist.

Anyone who invokes him or his lunatic Baghdad Bob grade rhetoric in
debate is an immediate loser.

> Likewise, my accountant told me this past spring that his telephone wait
> times for his calls to the IRS were waaaaaay down this past year.

The entire IRS is a sham and a private corporation beholden to Yuro
banksters that must be abolished!

Learn, you fucking fascist blood tick:

https://dn790003.ca.archive.org/0/items/pdfy--Pori1NL6fKm2SnY/The%20Creature%20From%20Jekyll%20Island.pdf

"A superb analysis deserving serious attention by all
Americans. Be prepared for one heck of a journey through time
and mind."
Ron Paul, member of Congress
House Banking Committee
"What every American needs to know about central bank
power. A gripping adventure into the secret world of the
international banking cartel."
Mark Thornton, Asst. Professor of Economics,
Auburn University; Coordinator Academic Affairs,
Ludwig von Mises Institute
"A magnificent accomplishment - a train-load of heavy history,
organized so well and written in such a relaxed and easy style
that it captivated me. I hated to put it down. "
Dan Smoot
Publisher/Editor, Dan Smoot Report
"As a career banker and president of a bank consulting firm, I
thought I had a good understanding of the Federal Reserve. But
this book changed the way I view our entire monetary system."
Marilyn MacGruder Barn wall
Grand Junction, Colorado

On 30 Sep 2024, Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted some
news:vdentf$2atfe$1@dont-email.me:

> On 9/30/2024 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>
>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in
>>> news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>> are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>> us first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes
>>
>> Bullshit. The rich pay most of the taxes.
>
>
> They should pay the largest portion as they have the largest portion
> of the money
>
> https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/stories/do-the-rich-pay-their-fair
> -share/
>
> According to a 2021 White House study, the wealthiest 400 billionaire
> families in the U.S. paid an average federal individual tax rate of
> just 8.2 percent. For comparison, the average American taxpayer in the
> same year paid 13 percent.

That's political word salad and laughably correct since many
billionaires don't get a paycheck like the working class. They, like
all business owners, take draws which are not taxed because it's
considered removal of profits and not personal income. Ever think that
through?

Obviously you've never owned a business. Business owners pay higher
interest rates, higher phone rates, higher internet rates, higher
electrical, higher everything. Why? Because they are a business. A
smart business owner takes advantage of the deductions granted them by
state governments and Congress. That is why they pay less taxes in some
cases.

Something else you may not have considered. Businesses collect taxes
and pay them back to the government in quarterly payments. Do they
get paid for that? No. The more they collect due to success the more
they must pay.

On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> [Default]  Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>
>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>> paying.
>>>>>
>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>>
>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>
>>
>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated point.
>>
>> That point was "fair share".  Its metric was "percentage of income",
>> which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.

Wrong.

A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15

That's fair

On 9/30/2024 6:11 PM, Allen wrote:

>
> That's political word salad and laughably correct since many
> billionaires don't get a paycheck like the working class. They, like
> all business owners, take draws which are not taxed because it's
> considered removal of profits and not personal income. Ever think that
> through?

It is still income

>
> Obviously you've never owned a business. Business owners pay higher
> interest rates, higher phone rates, higher internet rates, higher
> electrical, higher everything. Why? Because they are a business. A
> smart business owner takes advantage of the deductions granted them by
> state governments and Congress. That is why they pay less taxes in some
> cases.

Obviously you have no idea what I've done. Both my wife and I had
businesses. Not everything is a higher rate.

>
> Something else you may not have considered. Businesses collect taxes
> and pay them back to the government in quarterly payments. Do they
> get paid for that? No. The more they collect due to success the more
> they must pay.

Cost of doing business. Hey, its deductible too!
>

On 9/30/24 11:20, Baxter wrote:
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:vdeh4t$29ret$3@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>>
>> "Frank" <"frank "@frank.net> wrote in message
>> news:vde0gd$274ne$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 9/30/2024 4:40 AM, T wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>> paying.
>>>>
>>>> This is just Fascist/Communist envy politics.
>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>>> are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>>> us first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And does the public realize that ultimately business
>>>> taxes are passed on to their customer? It is a way
>>>> of taxing the populace without it appearing on their
>>>> tax bill.
>>>
>>> It is simple, increase corporate tax and corporations take business
>>> and profits off shore where taxes are less.
>>
>> Yes, when corporate taxes are high enough to make the expense of such
>> a move worth it, they will.
>>
> Yet when taxes were high (93%) those corporations stayed here and
> invested in the US. It's when the taxes were lowered that they quit here
> and went to other countries.
>

You are forgetting that they had loop holes out the wazoo.
They did not pay that much actual taxes. When the loop
holes were plugged and the taxes lowered, they were
actually paying more taxes than under the 90+% rate.
So yes, of course, they moved.

There is greed more insatiable in this world than
government greed.

Envy is not the answer to our problems.

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vdfg7b$2e575$1@dont-email.me:

> On 9/30/24 11:20, Baxter wrote:
>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>> news:vdeh4t$29ret$3@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frank" <"frank "@frank.net> wrote in message
>>> news:vde0gd$274ne$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 9/30/2024 4:40 AM, T wrote:
>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>> paying.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just Fascist/Communist envy politics.
>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>>>> us first.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And does the public realize that ultimately business
>>>>> taxes are passed on to their customer? It is a way
>>>>> of taxing the populace without it appearing on their
>>>>> tax bill.
>>>>
>>>> It is simple, increase corporate tax and corporations take business
>>>> and profits off shore where taxes are less.
>>>
>>> Yes, when corporate taxes are high enough to make the expense of
>>> such a move worth it, they will.
>>>
>> Yet when taxes were high (93%) those corporations stayed here and
>> invested in the US. It's when the taxes were lowered that they quit
>> here and went to other countries.
>>
>
>
> You are forgetting that they had loop holes out the wazoo.
> They did not pay that much actual taxes.

I'm not forgetting that. Those "loopholes" are what actually kept them
here and investing in the US

> When the loop
> holes were plugged and the taxes lowered, they were
> actually paying more taxes than under the 90+% rate.
> So yes, of course, they moved.

Nope. The lower the taxes, the less they gained from "loopholes" and the
more money they had to move operations to other countries.

On 9/30/24 19:30, Baxter wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vdfg7b$2e575$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 9/30/24 11:20, Baxter wrote:
>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>> news:vdeh4t$29ret$3@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frank" <"frank "@frank.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:vde0gd$274ne$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 9/30/2024 4:40 AM, T wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is just Fascist/Communist envy politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>>>>> us first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And does the public realize that ultimately business
>>>>>> taxes are passed on to their customer? It is a way
>>>>>> of taxing the populace without it appearing on their
>>>>>> tax bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is simple, increase corporate tax and corporations take business
>>>>> and profits off shore where taxes are less.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, when corporate taxes are high enough to make the expense of
>>>> such a move worth it, they will.
>>>>
>>> Yet when taxes were high (93%) those corporations stayed here and
>>> invested in the US. It's when the taxes were lowered that they quit
>>> here and went to other countries.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You are forgetting that they had loop holes out the wazoo.
>> They did not pay that much actual taxes.
>
> I'm not forgetting that. Those "loopholes" are what actually kept them
> here and investing in the US
>
>> When the loop
>> holes were plugged and the taxes lowered, they were
>> actually paying more taxes than under the 90+% rate.
>> So yes, of course, they moved.
>
> Nope. The lower the taxes, the less they gained from "loopholes" and the
> more money they had to move operations to other countries.

Silly you. They move to other countries when the cost
exceeds what they can absorb. They would not leave
if they made more money.

You know president Trump did remark on this at the time.
Give me back the 90% tax and the loop holes.

On 9/30/24 13:48, citizen winston smith wrote:
> The only literally fair tax is a low rate national flat tax, period.

Stop making sense!!!!! A flat tax would remove all
the social engineering and that would be a bad thing
for the anointed! Good for the rest of us though.

On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> [Default]  Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>>>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>>>
>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>
>>>
>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated point.
>>>
>>> That point was "fair share".  Its metric was "percentage of income",
>>> which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.
>
> Wrong.
>
> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>
> That's fair
>

Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???

Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> wrote
in
news:5rqlfjdqotub16iptnu6jer64g29ssohbo@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck
ing.dwarf.com:

> [Default] Ed P <esp@snet.n> typed:
>
>>On 9/30/2024 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>
>>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in
>>>> news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>>
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>>> are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>>> us first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes
>>>
>>> Bullshit. The rich pay most of the taxes.
>>
>>
>>They should pay the largest portion as they have the largest portion
>>of the money
>
> No. Everyone should pay the same.
>

Nope - no matter how you define "the same" And the history of taxation
in this country is that the rich pay all or more than the poor.

[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:

>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> [Default]  Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>>>>>> their income than a billionaire.
>>>>>
>>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated point.
>>>>
>>>> That point was "fair share".  Its metric was "percentage of income",
>>>> which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>
>> That's fair
>>
>
>
>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???

What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?

It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak

Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
wrote:
>[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>
>>> That's fair
>>
>>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>
>What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>
>It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak

The only way it's "fair" is if you compare the accessibility and
prices of fast food burgers, such as McD's McDouble, it provides a way
to get beef but you sacrifice choice and quality.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Baxter wrote:
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
> in
> news:5rqlfjdqotub16iptnu6jer64g29ssohbo@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck
> ing.dwarf.com:
>
>> [Default] Ed P <esp@snet.n> typed:
>>
>>> On 9/30/2024 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> me too <not@kamala.dunce> wrote in
>>>>> news:vddela$14gjp$1@news.mixmin.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you
>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>>>>>> us first.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And yet they haven't been paying their taxes
>>>> Bullshit. The rich pay most of the taxes.
>>>
>>> They should pay the largest portion as they have the largest portion
>>> of the money
>> No. Everyone should pay the same.
>>
> Nope - no matter how you define "the same" And the history of taxation
> in this country is that the rich pay all or more than the poor.

Does Nancy Piglosi pay her fair share of taxes on her insider trades?

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> Wrong.
> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>
> That's fair
>

The poor person pays for the steak with their taxpayer funded WIC EBT card.

So Joe Taxpayer pays for his own food and that of the Democrat voters.

Taxpayers have a long list of government dependents but can't claim any
of them on their taxes.

citizen winston smith wrote:
> The entire IRS is a sham and a private corporation beholden to Yuro
> banksters that must be abolished!

The IRS takes money from working people and gives it to lazy welfare people.

Scout wrote:

>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater percentage of
>> their income than a billionaire.
>
>Cite

Come on. Surely, you are aware of Trump paying no income taxes for 18
fscking years. That ain't right.

[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:

>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>>
>>>> That's fair
>>>
>>>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>
>>What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>
>>It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>
>
>The only way it's "fair" is

It's fair. The opinions of the mentally ill don't count here.

Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
wrote:
>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>>>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>>>
>>>>> That's fair
>>>>
>>>>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>>
>>>What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>>
>>>It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>>
>>The only way it's "fair" is
>
>It's fair. The opinions of the mentally ill don't count here.

You're a white piece of shit, cracker. Redneck greasy oinking pig.
Devil race of Satan.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vdfrj8$2e575$6@dont-email.me:

> On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On 9/30/2024 2:38 PM,Fuckwit -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/24 1:08 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> [Default]  Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vddo52$1u779$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/29/24 22:58, me too wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when the populace is asked what percentage that "fair
>>>>>>> share" is, it is usually under what they are already
>>>>>>> paying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it's not - not when a teacher, or nurse pays a greater
>>>>>> percentage of their income than a billionaire.
>>>>>
>>>>> They STILL pay less in taxes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True, but that's being a tad dishonest in avoiding the stated
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> That point was "fair share".  Its metric was "percentage of
>>>> income", which is very consistent with how this topic is discussed.
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor person
>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>
>> That's fair
>>
>
>
> Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>

A rich person buys Wagyu beef for $800/pound, a poor person buys hamburger
at $3/pound - a poor person doesn't eat steak.

Al Burt Boarla <al.burt.boarla@myocarditis.vax> wrote in
news:66fbda80$0$1784$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> citizen winston smith wrote:
>> The entire IRS is a sham and a private corporation beholden to Yuro
>> banksters that must be abolished!
>
> The IRS takes money from working people and gives it to lazy welfare
> people.
>

Reagan was champion of that, wasn't he?

Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> wrote
in news:paqnfjtug4vkscedh19ad73q0t8c1ats74
@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com:

> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>
>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>[Default] T <T@invalid.invalid> typed:
>>>>On 9/30/24 15:23, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A steak is $15.00 at the grocery store. It's "fair" if a poor
person
>>>>> buys it or a rich person buys it. It costs either one of them $15
>>>>>
>>>>> That's fair
>>>>
>>>>Do you seriously think both are on the same budget???
>>>
>>>What's budget got to do with it, dumb ass?
>>>
>>>It's FAIR that BOTH pay the same price for the steak
>>
>>
>>The only way it's "fair" is
>
> It's fair. The opinions of the mentally ill don't count here.
>
The opinions of mentally disabled KKKlaun are worthless.