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Subject: Would Americans fight for their country like Ukrainians? A recent poll is discouraging | Opinion
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Like most Americans, I’ve spent the last few weeks contemplating the
implications of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, including those
that extend beyond ever-increasing gasoline prices and grocery bills.

As I was explaining to my inquisitive 6-year-old, war is, sadly, a
perennial state of human existence. This isn’t the first war of her
lifetime, and no matter how much we strive for peace throughout the
world, it won’t be the last.

But unlike the wars of the recent past — even those in which U.S. troops
were committed — the fight in Ukraine feels closer to home. The images
and stories of ordinary men taking up arms, of women constructing
Molotov cocktails in their town squares and of families resolutely
hunkering down in defense of their nation are as terrifying as they are
compelling.

They are hopeful, too. They remind us that when their culture, freedoms
and way of life are under assault, many people will risk and even lose
their own lives to ensure their long-term survival.

What would we do in such circumstances? A recent Quinnipiac University
poll posed that same question to Americans: Would you stay and fight or
leave the country? A bare majority, 55%, said they would stay and fight,
while 38% said they would leave. “When confronted with a terrible
hypothetical that would put them in the shoes of the Ukrainians,
Americans say they would stand and fight rather than seek safety in
another country,” said Quinnipiac polling analyst Tim Malloy.

That’s one way to spin it, I guess. For me, the fact that just under
half of my friends and neighbors would hypothetically abandon their
homeland and all it stands for in the face of a foreign invader is less
than encouraging.

Many people don’t even seem to have hypothetical patriotism, let alone
fortitude. Further disheartening is that the youngest Americans, those
ages 18-34 and most physically capable, were even less likely to stay
and fight.

Only 45% said they would remain, while 48% would flee. Comparatively,
two-thirds of the 50-to-64-year-old cohort said they would remain.

That’s not wholly surprising given that so much of the recent
discontentment with America is concentrated among the youth. Equally
unsurprising is that political differences also play a role in
willingness to defend our nation. Republicans (68%-25%) and independents
(57%-36%) said they would stay and fight, while Democrats said, 52%-40%,
that they would leave the country.

That seems consistent with our political divide. Many people on the left
find America, because of its historical failures and present-day
inadequacies, unworthy of our defense.

But there are elements of that thinking on the political right now, too.
For all the chest-thumping of the MAGA right, a surprising number of
people believe that the United States — much like Ukraine — has brought
destruction upon itself, and any attack would be wholly warranted if not
deserved.

I don’t disagree that we are a decadent society — one that has generally
enjoyed so much freedom for so long that we have sometimes lost all
perspective. To wit, I received a promotional email last week from the
children’s clothier, explaining that, in an effort to defend the
children of the world from ongoing “violence and discrimination,” it
would donate equal amounts to a domestic LGTBQ nonprofit and an
international aid organization.

As if transgender policies in Texas and Florida (even if one believe
them to be misguided) are the moral equivalent of deadly rocket attacks
on a children’s hospital in Ukraine. They are not.

America, in spite of its shortcomings and failures, is worth defending.

Our highest ideals — liberty, equality and democracy — would never be
truly achieved if we were to turn and run from an invader.

While I have no delusions about my ability to fight, if we ever faced an
existential crisis like the people of Ukraine now face, I would stay. I
hope more of us would do the same. Cynthia M. Allen is a columnist for
the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article259392144.html

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