chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>>Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is what I did not superior, in relating the results?
>>>
>>>No. Text is searchable and indexable, and can also be quoted. We see this
>>>all too often in online open-source support forums, particularly from
>>>users who are too accustomed to Dimdows systems, posting screenshots of
>>>text messages instead of copying and pasting the text.
>>
>>Um, this is Usenet, not an "online support forum". What I posted was
>>the correct, modern way to respond to your request.
>
>I wouldn't kill you to admit that you were wrong, you know.

I was right.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/47lF8YL.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Posting screenshots of text, instead of just copying and pasting the
>>>>>>>text ... sigh ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, even on fuckin' IRC, I can turn an image into a text link with a
>>>>>> Ctrl-V. So, here I need Imgur.
>>>>>
>>>>>You use a Linux system, but you can’t copy/paste text out of a terminal
>>>>>session into a News client windows?
>>>>
>>>> Is what I did not superior, in relating the results?
>>>
>>>No. Harder to edit/fake, maybe.
>>
>> That isn't a thing, then? That's kind of the point. We're in the
>> 21st century.
>
>We're in a text-only medium, here.

Look above in the quoting: what I posted was text. A URL, a Web site
link, but text. If you don't have a graphical browser, oh fucking
well.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 18:11:39 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
<fovgfjhe903sn6gktn7rrlprci037kihiq@4ax.com>:

> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>Joel wrote:
>>>Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is what I did not superior, in relating the results?
>>>>
>>>>No. Text is searchable and indexable, and can also be quoted. We see
>>>>this all too often in online open-source support forums, particularly
>>>>from users who are too accustomed to Dimdows systems, posting
>>>>screenshots of text messages instead of copying and pasting the text.
>>>
>>>Um, this is Usenet, not an "online support forum". What I posted was
>>>the correct, modern way to respond to your request.
>>
>>I wouldn't kill you to admit that you were wrong, you know.
>
>
> I was right.

Wrong on both counts.

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"Enter that again, just a little slower."

Le 28-09-2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>On 9/27/2024 8:14 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You use a Linux system, but you can’t copy/paste text out of a terminal
>>>> session into a News client windows?
>>>
>>> I want to comment additionally, here. Yeah, I'm using a Linux system,
>>> and I'm fairly good at doing so, but frankly with Mint and whatnot
>>> they've made Linux as easy to install and use as M$, the question of
>>> copying the results of what Lawrence asked me to do, as text,
>>> presupposes that this would really relate what is seen in the
>>> terminal, I suggest that my method while elaborate is the only way to
>>> do it right.
>>
>>Well, not to pile on, but Larry Duh is right: you should've just copied
>>the text from your terminal and pasted it into your post.
>>
>>It's quicker for you to post, and everyone else to read.
>>
>>Why did you take a screenshot of 3 lines of text in a terminal?
>
>
> If you really see what I did as overeager, I would question how
> objective that is.

Everyone told you the same thing. You should question your objectivity
instead.

> Retrofitting Usenet with graphical features

That's not what you did.

> seems reasonable to this extent.

It's not, the arguments have been given. You refuse them. But they are
valid nonetheless.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 18:11:39 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
><fovgfjhe903sn6gktn7rrlprci037kihiq@4ax.com>:
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>Joel wrote:
>>>>Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is what I did not superior, in relating the results?
>>>>>
>>>>>No. Text is searchable and indexable, and can also be quoted. We see
>>>>>this all too often in online open-source support forums, particularly
>>>>>from users who are too accustomed to Dimdows systems, posting
>>>>>screenshots of text messages instead of copying and pasting the text.
>>>>
>>>>Um, this is Usenet, not an "online support forum". What I posted was
>>>>the correct, modern way to respond to your request.
>>>
>>>I wouldn't kill you to admit that you were wrong, you know.
>>
>> I was right.
>
>Wrong on both counts.

I'm not backing down, one person against many on a Linux newsgroup in
2024 could be the normal one.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>Le 28-09-2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Why did you take a screenshot of 3 lines of text in a terminal?
>>
>> If you really see what I did as overeager, I would question how
>> objective that is.
>
>Everyone told you the same thing. You should question your objectivity
>instead.

If everyone did something wrong, would I copy them?

>> Retrofitting Usenet with graphical features
>
>That's not what you did.

Sure it is, you do have a browser, right?

>> seems reasonable to this extent.
>
>It's not, the arguments have been given. You refuse them. But they are
>valid nonetheless.

My arguments "have been given", too. Deal with it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 9/28/2024 6:10 PM, Joel wrote:
> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 04:12:30 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <iheffjd8c04deaike4c94vqogblm93qd6t@4ax.com>:
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/47lF8YL.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Posting screenshots of text, instead of just copying and pasting the
>>>>>>>> text ... sigh ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, even on fuckin' IRC, I can turn an image into a text link with
>>>>>>> a Ctrl-V. So, here I need Imgur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You use a Linux system, but you can’t copy/paste text out of a
>>>>>> terminal session into a News client windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is what I did not superior, in relating the results?
>>>>
>>>> No. Text is searchable and indexable, and can also be quoted. We see
>>>> this all too often in online open-source support forums, particularly
>>> >from users who are too accustomed to Dimdows systems, posting
>>>> screenshots of text messages instead of copying and pasting the text.
>>>
>>> Um, this is Usenet, not an "online support forum". What I posted was
>>> the correct, modern way to respond to your request.
>>
>> No, it wasn't.
>>
>> Copy and paste the text, please, I don't want to
>> go peer at your images of plain text.
>
>
> Then don't click the link, idiot. Not my problem, if you're another
> one of these old people stuck in your ways. Modern people would show
> this as a screenshot. Get fucked.

OK, now you're in timeout until you understand the error of your ways.

Screenshots of a few lines of terminal text is verboten; it's a waste of
time and computing resources.

And it makes you look like a weird newb.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 9/28/2024 6:10 PM, Joel wrote:
>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 04:12:30 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <iheffjd8c04deaike4c94vqogblm93qd6t@4ax.com>:
>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/47lF8YL.png
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Posting screenshots of text, instead of just copying and pasting the
>>>>>>>>> text ... sigh ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, even on fuckin' IRC, I can turn an image into a text link with
>>>>>>>> a Ctrl-V. So, here I need Imgur.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You use a Linux system, but you can’t copy/paste text out of a
>>>>>>> terminal session into a News client windows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is what I did not superior, in relating the results?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. Text is searchable and indexable, and can also be quoted. We see
>>>>> this all too often in online open-source support forums, particularly
>>>> >from users who are too accustomed to Dimdows systems, posting
>>>>> screenshots of text messages instead of copying and pasting the text.
>>>>
>>>> Um, this is Usenet, not an "online support forum". What I posted was
>>>> the correct, modern way to respond to your request.
>>>
>>> No, it wasn't.
>>>
>>> Copy and paste the text, please, I don't want to
>>> go peer at your images of plain text.
>>
>> Then don't click the link, idiot. Not my problem, if you're another
>> one of these old people stuck in your ways. Modern people would show
>> this as a screenshot. Get fucked.
>
>OK, now you're in timeout until you understand the error of your ways.
>
>Screenshots of a few lines of terminal text is verboten; it's a waste of
>time and computing resources.
>
>And it makes you look like a weird newb.

Wow, another person on the bandwagon. We can't modernize Usenet. Run
Windows 7, then, dummy, come on. If you can't do what I did
efficiently, you don't have GIMP.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 18:28:55 -0400, Joel wrote:

>>We're in a text-only medium, here.
>
> Look above in the quoting: what I posted was text.

SXMgdGhhdCBhIGZhY3QgLi4u

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>>>We're in a text-only medium, here.
>>
>> Look above in the quoting: what I posted was text.
>
>SXMgdGhhdCBhIGZhY3QgLi4u

Posting a link is the way to display an image, without a binary
newsgroup. More reliable than one, anyway. Usenet can be retrofitted
in a number of ways.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 9/28/2024 8:58 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 9/28/2024 6:10 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 04:12:30 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <iheffjd8c04deaike4c94vqogblm93qd6t@4ax.com>:
>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/47lF8YL.png
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Posting screenshots of text, instead of just copying and pasting the
>>>>>>>>>> text ... sigh ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, even on fuckin' IRC, I can turn an image into a text link with
>>>>>>>>> a Ctrl-V. So, here I need Imgur.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You use a Linux system, but you can’t copy/paste text out of a
>>>>>>>> terminal session into a News client windows?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is what I did not superior, in relating the results?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. Text is searchable and indexable, and can also be quoted. We see
>>>>>> this all too often in online open-source support forums, particularly
>>>>> >from users who are too accustomed to Dimdows systems, posting
>>>>>> screenshots of text messages instead of copying and pasting the text.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, this is Usenet, not an "online support forum". What I posted was
>>>>> the correct, modern way to respond to your request.
>>>>
>>>> No, it wasn't.
>>>>
>>>> Copy and paste the text, please, I don't want to
>>>> go peer at your images of plain text.
>>>
>>> Then don't click the link, idiot. Not my problem, if you're another
>>> one of these old people stuck in your ways. Modern people would show
>>> this as a screenshot. Get fucked.
>>
>> OK, now you're in timeout until you understand the error of your ways.
>>
>> Screenshots of a few lines of terminal text is verboten; it's a waste of
>> time and computing resources.
>>
>> And it makes you look like a weird newb.
>
>
> Wow, another person on the bandwagon.

Are you getting a clue yet?

Stubbornness while being wrong is

> We can't modernize Usenet. Run
> Windows 7, then, dummy, come on. If you can't do what I did
> efficiently, you don't have GIMP.

Posting a link to a silly image isn't modernizing Usenet. What would be
nice is counters to track views and upvotes/downvotes. But that would
mean a centralized way to manage unique user logins and some kind of IP
or ID tracker to go along with the post headers. Very much against the
anonymous, decentralized structure of Usenet.

Did you really need to involve the Gimp bloatware in this operation? I
figured a modern Linux would have a quick screenshot app like Win11's
nifty Snipping Tool.

MS is doomed by screenshots of 2 lines of code.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>>> Screenshots of a few lines of terminal text is verboten; it's a waste of
>>> time and computing resources.
>>>
>>> And it makes you look like a weird newb.
>>
>> Wow, another person on the bandwagon.
>
>Are you getting a clue yet?
>
>Stubbornness while being wrong is
>
>> We can't modernize Usenet. Run
>> Windows 7, then, dummy, come on. If you can't do what I did
>> efficiently, you don't have GIMP.
>
>Posting a link to a silly image isn't modernizing Usenet. What would be
>nice is counters to track views and upvotes/downvotes. But that would
>mean a centralized way to manage unique user logins and some kind of IP
>or ID tracker to go along with the post headers. Very much against the
>anonymous, decentralized structure of Usenet.
>
>Did you really need to involve the Gimp bloatware in this operation? I
>figured a modern Linux would have a quick screenshot app like Win11's
>nifty Snipping Tool.
>
>MS is doomed by screenshots of 2 lines of code.

I used the screenshot utility to make the image, GIMP to export it to
PNG. Probably there's a way to export it within the utility, but I
normally don't need these things as files, Usenet is just that
ancient. But it can take a URL, as I posted initially - and thus have
been right despite everyone else claiming otherwise. 2024 Usenet.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 04:12:45 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Posting a link is the way to display an image ...

V2hpY2ggd2FzIHRvdGFsbHkgdW5uZWNlc3NhcnkgaW4gdGhpcyBjYXNlLg==

Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> <doofsnip>
>
> I used the screenshot utility to make the image, GIMP to export it to
> PNG. Probably there's a way to export it within the utility, but I
> normally don't need these things as files, Usenet is just that
> ancient. But it can take a URL, as I posted initially - and thus have
> been right despite everyone else claiming otherwise. 2024 Usenet.

You can install ImageMagick and do that in one command:

1. import xyz.png
2. Click on the desired window.

You could even crop it from the command line.

--
Your reasoning powers are good, and you are a fairly good planner.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 07:20 this Monday (GMT):
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 04:12:45 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Posting a link is the way to display an image ...
>
> V2hpY2ggd2FzIHRvdGFsbHkgdW5uZWNlc3NhcnkgaW4gdGhpcyBjYXNlLg==

Why did you use base64 for that?
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 19:40:08 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 07:20 this Monday (GMT):
>> On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 04:12:45 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Posting a link is the way to display an image ...
>>
>> V2hpY2ggd2FzIHRvdGFsbHkgdW5uZWNlc3NhcnkgaW4gdGhpcyBjYXNlLg==
>
>
> Why did you use base64 for that?

Because..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base64

It's wide spread. Go back about 20 years and NCIC (National Crime
Information Center) returns were plain text. Over the years they added the
ability to return images, mugshots, finger prints, and so forth. Since
many systems can only handle text the images are Base64 encoded with a tag
like <image></image>. You can either skip over the block or convert it to
a binary and figure out some way to display it.