Governor Swill wrote:
> let them get jobs and work

Please choose your preferred cell # now, little man Rudey/Jonathan Ball.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

On 9/27/24 1:47 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> if our per capita rate of immigration today was set to be the same as
>> it was a century ago, we'd be opening our shores to 5 million per year
>
>
> SO FUCKING WHAT?

It was showing that chrisv's claim that we're incapable of accommodating
1/5th as many today is patently ridiculous.

>
> Nations adjust all over time..

Yup.

> But successful nations do nor refuse to SECURE THEIR BORDERS!

Except that the history of the USA is that we went basically 200 years
without securing all of our borders against immigrants.

> You treasonous slimebag!

Oh, so people who have demonstrated that they know more about US History
than you, and know more about US Law than you, and know more about US
Public Policy than you are supposedly "treasonous"?

Nah, it just means that they're a lot smarter than you, and you can't
bring yourself to admit that you fall short. Okay, "Moe"...

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_characters_in_Calvin_and_Hobbes#Moe>

-hh

On 9/27/24 1:26 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Mittens Romney" <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote in message
> news:vd6lab$po0d$2@dont-email.me...
>> -hh wrote:
>>> And something to note in it is the very low conviction rate from
>>> arrests; call it roughly just one third (1/3rd).
>>
>> Well Goddamn Huntzy!
>
> How many weren't convicted because they simply disappeared?

A reasonable question too.

Point is that all of the details in any statistic need to be reviewed,
often with a fine tooth comb, to see if these details are shaping the
picture.

Its part of the basis of "lies, damn lies, and statistics".

-hh

-hh wrote:
> the history of the USA is that we went basically 200 years without
> securing all of our borders against immigrants.

Nope.

You lied again Huntzy-traitor.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/raging-controversy-border-began-100-years-ago-180969343/

The Raging Controversy at the Border Began With This Incident 100 Years Ago
In Nogales, Arizona, the United States and Mexico agreed to build walls
separating their countries

In early August 1918, Felix B. Peñaloza, the presidente municipal, or
mayor, of Nogales, Mexico, ordered construction of a fence running along
the boundary line between his city and Nogales, Arizona. The fence would
consist of six wires strung to a height of six feet. His intent was to
direct the flow of people crossing the border through two gateways, to
make it easier for a growing number of soldiers, customs agents and
other officials to oversee transborder movement. Peñaloza also met with
U.S. representatives to discuss a second, parallel fence, to be built by
the Americans. Mexican officials said they “would welcome the building
of such a fence by the United States Government, as it would aid
officials on both sides of the line in enforcing their regulations,” and
they insisted that “such action would not be irritating or offensive to
Mexican sentiment.”

Today a ten-mile-long rusted steel border wall is a defining feature of
the cities. Its origin story begins with these two fences. When they
were first erected in Nogales a century ago, they were neither a brazen
political statement nor a barrier to immigrants, but a cooperative
measure, embraced by both the United States and Mexico in the spirit of
“good fences make good neighbors.” But the proposed American fence
became what was most likely the first permanent barrier to control the
movement of people across the U.S.-Mexico border.
But on August 27, 1918, soon after Mexican workers had erected the fence
in Nogales, conflict broke out when an unidentified man attempted to
cross into Mexico. A U.S. customs inspector ordered him to halt, but he
did not stop. Officers on both sides of the border raised their guns,
and a firefight broke out. About two hours later, at least 12 Mexicans
and Americans had been killed, including Peñaloza, who had built the
fence precisely to minimize the risk of conflict between the nations.

Ironically, despite his failure, U.S. officials in Nogales, Arizona,
soon went ahead with plans for their own fence—which quickly became a
model for controlling the movement of people across the U.S.-Mexico
border. Following Nogales’ lead, officials in Calexico, California,
erected a fence that ran two miles along the boundary line there. By the
1920s, fences were a fixture in most border towns.

Over time, the fences were put to a new use. In the 1940s, the U.S.
Immigration and Naturalization Service coordinated with the
International Boundary and Water Commission to erect chain-link barriers
on the border. More fences, a border patrolman later acknowledged,
forced unauthorized migrants through dangerous mountains, deserts and
rivers “around the ends of the fence.” The U.S. expansion of the fencing
in the 1990s doubled-down on this strategy, leading to a dramatic
increase in the number of migrants who died attempting the treacherous
crossing. Thus the fences and other barriers that stand along much of
the U.S.-Mexico border now mark not only an international boundary but
also a humanitarian crisis.

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-hh wrote:
>> How many weren't convicted because they simply disappeared?
>
>
> A reasonable question too.
>
> Point is that all of the details in any statistic need to be reviewed,
> often with a fine tooth comb, to see if these details are shaping the
> picture.

You're a treasonous scumbag just like Milley!

https://www.rightwing.org/us-border-overwhelmed-by-walk-aways/

Border agents are warning of a new issue on our collapsing southern
border. The flood of illegal immigrants is now so overwhelming that
hundreds of people are simply walking away and disappearing into the US
because the Border Patrol doesn’t have the time and manpower to deal
with them.

On March 25, the Washington Times reported that the situation at the
US-Mexican border is so bad that agents just can’t deal with the volume
of illegal immigration anymore. Things were bad enough already with
thousands of migrants being released into the US by federal agencies,
and the Biden administration flying in thousands more directly from
their own countries. Now Border Patrol agents say there’s a new problem
— “walk-aways,” who just cross the border and walk into our towns and
cities.

Former FBI agent and Customs and Border Patrol acting commissioner Mark
Morgan told reporters that large groups of illegal immigrants are being
sent across the border by people traffickers and told to wait for US
agents to process them. The problem is that there aren’t enough agents
to cope with the volume of illegal border crossings; sometimes these
groups have to wait for days before Border Patrol can get around to
them, and a lot of them don’t wait that long. Instead, they just get up
and leave, either back into Mexico or — more often — into the US.

That means they’ve entered our country without even the basic processing
usually done by agents. We don’t know anything about them — who they
are, whether they have a criminal record, where they plan to go, or what
they plan to do.

San Diego Border Patrol sector chief Brent L Schwerdtfeger says because
these migrants aren’t in custody, they’re free to leave the groups they
crossed the border with “at any point prior to arrest.” The problem is
they aren’t being arrested, so they can just disappear into our society
and US law enforcement doesn’t even know they’re here. As Morgan — who
ran Border Patrol under the Trump administration — said, “What’s driving
85% of this crisis is bad policy.”

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On 9/27/24 5:50 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> the history of the USA is that we went basically 200 years without
>> securing all of our borders against immigrants.
>
> Nope.
>
> You lied again Huntzy-traitor.
>
> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/raging-controversy-border-
> began-100-years-ago-180969343/
>
> The Raging Controversy at the Border Began With This Incident 100 Years Ago
> In Nogales, Arizona, the United States and Mexico agreed to build walls
> separating their countries
>
> In early August 1918, ...

So? What were the border controls like for 1607-1918?

Yes, that's 300+ years by your line in the sand.

-hh

On 9/27/24 5:52 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>>> How many weren't convicted because they simply disappeared?
>>
>>
>> A reasonable question too.
>>
>> Point is that all of the details in any statistic need to be reviewed,
>> often with a fine tooth comb, to see if these details are shaping the
>> picture.
>
> You're a treasonous scumbag just like Milley!

Nope, just pointing out how partisan assholes will lie & deceive.

TL;DR: I tried to be reasonable with you.

-hh

On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 10:20:58 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On 9/27/24 5:52 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>>> How many weren't convicted because they simply disappeared?
>>>
>>>
>>> A reasonable question too.
>>>
>>> Point is that all of the details in any statistic need to be reviewed,
>>> often with a fine tooth comb, to see if these details are shaping the
>>> picture.
>>
>> You're a treasonous scumbag just like Milley!
>
>Nope, just pointing out how partisan assholes will lie & deceive.
>
>TL;DR: I tried to be reasonable with you.

This is who you're responding to.

Loran - loran@invalid.net Message-ID: <v3q8fm$12ehe$14@dont-email.me>
C_V <c_v@invalid.net> Message-ID: <v73tgn$qk96$39@dont-email.me>
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Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> Message-ID:
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Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> Message-ID:
<vd46iq$ajkn$5@dont-email.me>

These are all eternal september accounts - nobody else will have him.

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Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 38 days.

17) Trump profited personally off the Presidency making an
estimated $160M from foreign countries.

18) Trump billed the Secret Service over a million dollars
when they stayed at his golf clubs and resorts protecting him.

On 9/27/24 4:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:25:02 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jamie McGregor, owner McGregor Metal fabrication in Springfield, Ohio,
>>>>> who has 30 Haitian employees: "I wish I had more. They come to
>>>>> work every day, they don't have drug problems, they stay at their
>>>>> machines and make their quotas. They come here to work."
>>>>>
>>>>> George Bush: America is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have helped
>>>>> build the country that we have become. And immigrants can help
>>>>> build a dynamic tomorrow. Not only do immigrants help build our
>>>>> economy, they invigorate our soul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ronald Reagan: If we ever close the door to new Americans, our
>>>>> leadership in the world would soon be lost.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us not forget the millions Reagan himself extended amnesty to.
>>>>
>>>> Not "closing the door" doesn't mean letting derelicts stream at
>>>> anything like the pace that we have today, dummy. Letting quality
>>>> people immigrate to here makes sense.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are we unable to make "quality people" out of the folks joining us?
>>
>> Well, how do you make quality people from people that start off by openly
>> violating our laws?
>
> You let them get jobs and work.

That's part of it.

Another part is to make sure that our laws are actually true & just, and
not deliberately undermining the public policy position.

-hh

On 9/28/24 9:50 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 10:20:58 -0400, -hh wrote:
>> On 9/27/24 5:52 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>> How many weren't convicted because they simply disappeared?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A reasonable question too.
>>>>
>>>> Point is that all of the details in any statistic need to be reviewed,
>>>> often with a fine tooth comb, to see if these details are shaping the
>>>> picture.
>>>
>>> You're a treasonous scumbag just like Milley!
>>
>> Nope, just pointing out how partisan assholes will lie & deceive.
>>
>> TL;DR: I tried to be reasonable with you.
>
> This is who you're responding to.
>
> Loran - loran@invalid.net Message-ID: <v3q8fm$12ehe$14@dont-email.me>
> C_V <c_v@invalid.net> Message-ID: <v73tgn$qk96$39@dont-email.me>
> CLV <cv@invalid.org> Message-ID: <v6k71u$1h434$5@dont-email.me>
> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> Message-ID:
> <v70vqu$7mp8$48@dont-email.me>
> Convair <cv@invalid.cz> Message-ID: <v7e6r3$32qaf$13@dont-email.me>
> Lil dwarf Rudey <dumbasastump@invalid.org> - Message-ID:
> <v7rrb9$1tdhp$14@dont-email.me>
> De-Trois-Leaning <dtl@invalid.net> - Message-ID: <vd17iu$3nd5q$6@dont-email.me>
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> Message-ID:
> <vd46iq$ajkn$5@dont-email.me>
>

Thanks. I knew that it was some luzer's sockpuppet nym, but frankly,
his trolls are so lame that he's not worth bothering to figure out which
of my comments (or beatdowns) of another nym had triggered them into his
string of pathetically pwned butthurt one-liner whines.

-hh

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ao4efjlbukkc5ju68nvjrht49hl7o46i22@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:25:02 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:m9kbfjl6oqvkdnqft69n7oceaievpj7mdb@4ax.com...
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Jamie McGregor, owner McGregor Metal fabrication in Springfield, Ohio,
>>>>>who has
>>>>>30 Haitian employees: "I wish I had more. They come to work every
>>>>>day,
>>>>>they
>>>>>don't have drug problems, they stay at their machines and make their
>>>>>quotas.
>>>>>They come here to work."
>>>>>
>>>>>George Bush: America is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have
>>>>>helped
>>>>>build
>>>>>the country that we have become. And immigrants can help build a
>>>>>dynamic
>>>>>tomorrow. Not only do immigrants help build our economy, they
>>>>>invigorate
>>>>>our
>>>>>soul.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ronald Reagan: If we ever close the door to new Americans, our
>>>>>leadership in
>>>>>the world would soon be lost.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let us not forget the millions Reagan himself extended amnesty to.
>>>>
>>>>Not "closing the door" doesn't mean letting derelicts stream at
>>>>anything like the pace that we have today, dummy. Letting quality
>>>>people immigrate to here makes sense.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are we unable to make "quality people" out of the folks joining us?
>>
>>Well, how do you make quality people from people that start off by openly
>>violating our laws?
>
> You let them get jobs and work.

So your 'solution' is to encourage them to commit yet MORE crimes?

Tell me.. when exactly do their crimes end?

When exactly does this person who has been breaking our laws from the moment
they illegally crossed the border end?

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
news:vd77dh$saht$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/27/24 1:26 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mittens Romney" <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote in message
>> news:vd6lab$po0d$2@dont-email.me...
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> And something to note in it is the very low conviction rate from
>>>> arrests; call it roughly just one third (1/3rd).
>>>
>>> Well Goddamn Huntzy!
>>
>> How many weren't convicted because they simply disappeared?
>
>
> A reasonable question too.
>
> Point is that all of the details in any statistic need to be reviewed,
> often with a fine tooth comb, to see if these details are shaping the
> picture.
>
> Its part of the basis of "lies, damn lies, and statistics".

Agreed. Often when I see statistics that don't match the 'sniff' test I look
for what they aren't telling me, or what they carefully excluded from the
study.

Sometimes, it's not even the study itself.. but the person reporting it that
is twisting it.