4 more years of this mess? I hope not.

'Biden-Harris’ irresponsible legacy: Debt is 100% of GDP, highest since
WWII'

<https://nypost.com/2024/09/24/opinion/biden-harris-irresponsible-legacy-debt-is-100-of-gdp-highest-since-wwii/>

'Under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, federal spending and debt are at the
highest levels in US history outside of wars and recessions. Here's how
public-held debt has compared to the Gross Domestic Product dating back
to 1790. This year debt will hit 100% of GDP, a level seen only once
before, at the end of WWII.
NY Post composite
The presidential campaign season is once again turning politicians into
pandering game show hosts, promising voters huge tax cuts and spending
expansions with no regard to the debt crisis these policies will
accelerate.

Budget deficits are set to exceed $2 trillion this year — despite
relative peace and prosperity — and then surge to $4 trillion within a
decade under current policies.

For the first time since the end of World War II, the federal debt will
top 100% of the gross domestic product.

The impending completion of the Biden-Harris administration brings an
opportunity to assess their role in these rising deficits.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris surely inherited an economic and fiscal
mess. President Donald Trump had already signed legislation and
executive orders adding $4 trillion to 10-year deficits before the
bipartisan pandemic response added $4 trillion more.

Post-pandemic toll
That said, as Biden-Harris entered office, the pandemic-ravaged economy
was finally reopening and Americans were returning to work. Thus, the
Congressional Budget Office (CBO) forecast that budget deficits — which
had temporarily leaped to $3 trillion — would drop back to the
pre-pandemic $1 trillion levels as the pandemic aid expired.'

'Instead, the administration immediately disregarded the advice of even
liberal economists and pushed through President Biden’s $1.9 trillion
American Rescue Plan.

Because CBO had calculated that the recovering economy was only $420
billion short of its operating capacity, this $1.9 trillion bazooka
wildly overshot its economic stimulus purpose.

Consequently, just as economists warned, the excessive stimulus
overheated the economy and contributed three more percentage points to
an inflation rate that was already rising due to past pandemic stimulus
and supply constraints.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have left America (and their successor) a
fiscal nightmare
Overall, this inflation cost typical families more than $10,000.

Moreover, the American Rescue Plan’s individual expenditures were
largely unnecessary. This pent-up Democratic wish list included $350
billion to bail out state budget deficits that did not actually exist, a
bloated union pension bailout, and a decade’s worth of additional
federal school funding — all sold to the public with added unemployment
benefits, taxpayer rebates and child tax credits.

$28.2 trillion owed
The Biden-Harris administration’s spending spree did not stop there. It
also signed $1.4 trillion in new spending in omnibus appropriations
bills, $620 billion in student loan bailouts, $520 billion for new
veterans’ benefits, a $440 billion infrastructure law, a semiconductor
bill, and $360 billion in new SNAP and health spending forced through by
executive order.

The offsetting savings promised in the Inflation Reduction Act and
Fiscal Responsibility Act are unlikely to materialize.

Adding it all up and including the resulting interest costs brings the
total to more than $5 trillion in new 10-year costs enacted under
President Biden.

And that bloated figure would have been even higher had the Supreme
Court not blocked an even larger student loan bailout, and had a
Democratic Congress not reached its breaking point and blocked the
original “Build Back Better” proposal costing $2.3 trillion.

Nearly all of this spending occurred during the first two years of the
Biden-Harris administration, before inflation-weary voters staged their
own intervention and elected a Republican House in late 2022.

Thus, instead of the pandemic’s conclusion returning budget deficits to
$1 trillion as CBO had projected, the Biden-Harris spending pushed the
deficit back up to $2.8 trillion in 2021, and approximately $2 trillion
this year.

Debt will hit a shocking $50 trillion by 2034, as DC continues to spend,
spend, spend
The results are shocking:

The CBO-projected deficit for the cumulative 2021-2031 period has jumped
from $14.5 trillion to $21.3 trillion — reflecting an additional $6.8
trillion in deficits.
Last year’s federal spending level (24% of GDP) and budget deficit (7.5%
of GDP) were both the largest in American history outside of wars and
recessions.
The US debt is expected to be $28.2 trillion this year, 100% of the GDP
— the highest level since the end of WWII.
Since 2021, annual interest costs have nearly tripled, from $352 billion
to nearly $1 trillion.
The debt held by the public is currently $212,600 per household.
White House gaslighting
Rather than take responsibility for this sea of red ink, the White House
gaslit voters by claiming to have reduced budget deficits.

Biden brags that his $2 trillion budget deficits are $1 trillion below
the 2020 pandemic peak of $3 trillion.

Of course, that 2020 figure was a one-time pandemic anomaly that had
been preceded by $1 trillion deficits that were expected to return as
soon as the economy reopened and pandemic aid expired.

Essentially, the president is treating the previously scheduled
expiration of temporary pandemic spending as his own historic spending
cut — and then spending its savings. This gaslighting was rebuked by the
fact checkers at the Washington Post with a rare “Bottomless Pinocchio”
rating.

Biden’s successor will inherit $2 trillion deficits, soaring interest
costs, and Social Security and Medicare trust funds approaching
insolvency. Truly a dismal fiscal record that leaves Washington closer
to a debt crisis.'

On 25 Sep 2024, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> posted some
news:1ng8fj11tkbi0gupgp27dnlcqrumf8fkko@4ax.com:

> 4 more years of this mess? I hope not.
>
> 'Biden-Harris’ irresponsible legacy: Debt is 100% of GDP, highest
> since WWII'
>
><https://nypost.com/2024/09/24/opinion/biden-harris-irresponsible-legacy
>-debt-is-100-of-gdp-highest-since-wwii/>
>
> 'Under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, federal spending and debt are at
> the highest levels in US history outside of wars and recessions.
> Here's how public-held debt has compared to the Gross Domestic Product
> dating back to 1790. This year debt will hit 100% of GDP, a level seen
> only once before, at the end of WWII.
> NY Post composite
> The presidential campaign season is once again turning politicians
> into pandering game show hosts, promising voters huge tax cuts and
> spending expansions with no regard to the debt crisis these policies
> will accelerate.
>
> Budget deficits are set to exceed $2 trillion this year — despite
> relative peace and prosperity — and then surge to $4 trillion within
> a decade under current policies.
>
> For the first time since the end of World War II, the federal debt
> will top 100% of the gross domestic product.
>
> The impending completion of the Biden-Harris administration brings an
> opportunity to assess their role in these rising deficits.
>
> Joe Biden and Kamala Harris surely inherited an economic and fiscal
> mess. President Donald Trump had already signed legislation and
> executive orders adding $4 trillion to 10-year deficits before the
> bipartisan pandemic response added $4 trillion more.
>
> Post-pandemic toll
> That said, as Biden-Harris entered office, the pandemic-ravaged
> economy was finally reopening and Americans were returning to work.
> Thus, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) forecast that budget
> deficits — which had temporarily leaped to $3 trillion — would
> drop back to the pre-pandemic $1 trillion levels as the pandemic aid
> expired.'
>
> 'Instead, the administration immediately disregarded the advice of
> even liberal economists and pushed through President Biden’s $1.9
> trillion American Rescue Plan.
>
> Because CBO had calculated that the recovering economy was only $420
> billion short of its operating capacity, this $1.9 trillion bazooka
> wildly overshot its economic stimulus purpose.
>
> Consequently, just as economists warned, the excessive stimulus
> overheated the economy and contributed three more percentage points to
> an inflation rate that was already rising due to past pandemic
> stimulus and supply constraints.
>
> Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have left America (and their successor) a
> fiscal nightmare
> Overall, this inflation cost typical families more than $10,000.
>
> Moreover, the American Rescue Plan’s individual expenditures were
> largely unnecessary. This pent-up Democratic wish list included $350
> billion to bail out state budget deficits that did not actually exist,
> a bloated union pension bailout, and a decade’s worth of additional
> federal school funding — all sold to the public with added
> unemployment benefits, taxpayer rebates and child tax credits.
>
> $28.2 trillion owed
> The Biden-Harris administration’s spending spree did not stop there.
> It also signed $1.4 trillion in new spending in omnibus appropriations
> bills, $620 billion in student loan bailouts, $520 billion for new
> veterans’ benefits, a $440 billion infrastructure law, a
> semiconductor bill, and $360 billion in new SNAP and health spending
> forced through by executive order.
>
> The offsetting savings promised in the Inflation Reduction Act and
> Fiscal Responsibility Act are unlikely to materialize.
>
> Adding it all up and including the resulting interest costs brings the
> total to more than $5 trillion in new 10-year costs enacted under
> President Biden.
>
>
> And that bloated figure would have been even higher had the Supreme
> Court not blocked an even larger student loan bailout, and had a
> Democratic Congress not reached its breaking point and blocked the
> original “Build Back Better” proposal costing $2.3 trillion.
>
> Nearly all of this spending occurred during the first two years of the
> Biden-Harris administration, before inflation-weary voters staged
> their own intervention and elected a Republican House in late 2022.
>
> Thus, instead of the pandemic’s conclusion returning budget deficits
> to $1 trillion as CBO had projected, the Biden-Harris spending pushed
> the deficit back up to $2.8 trillion in 2021, and approximately $2
> trillion this year.
>
>
>
> Debt will hit a shocking $50 trillion by 2034, as DC continues to
> spend, spend, spend
> The results are shocking:
>
> The CBO-projected deficit for the cumulative 2021-2031 period has
> jumped from $14.5 trillion to $21.3 trillion — reflecting an
> additional $6.8 trillion in deficits.
> Last year’s federal spending level (24% of GDP) and budget deficit
> (7.5% of GDP) were both the largest in American history outside of
> wars and recessions.
> The US debt is expected to be $28.2 trillion this year, 100% of the
> GDP — the highest level since the end of WWII.
> Since 2021, annual interest costs have nearly tripled, from $352
> billion to nearly $1 trillion.
> The debt held by the public is currently $212,600 per household.
> White House gaslighting
> Rather than take responsibility for this sea of red ink, the White
> House gaslit voters by claiming to have reduced budget deficits.
>
> Biden brags that his $2 trillion budget deficits are $1 trillion below
> the 2020 pandemic peak of $3 trillion.
>
> Of course, that 2020 figure was a one-time pandemic anomaly that had
> been preceded by $1 trillion deficits that were expected to return as
> soon as the economy reopened and pandemic aid expired.
>
> Essentially, the president is treating the previously scheduled
> expiration of temporary pandemic spending as his own historic spending
> cut — and then spending its savings. This gaslighting was rebuked by
> the fact checkers at the Washington Post with a rare “Bottomless
> Pinocchio” rating.
>
> Biden’s successor will inherit $2 trillion deficits, soaring
> interest costs, and Social Security and Medicare trust funds
> approaching insolvency. Truly a dismal fiscal record that leaves
> Washington closer to a debt crisis.'

That's the end result of vote buying and Democrat administration.
Democrats are sick people.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:08:22 -0400, John Smyth wrote:

> 4 more years of this mess? I hope not.
>
> 'Biden-Harris� irresponsible legacy: Debt is 100% of GDP, highest since
> WWII'
>
> <https://nypost.com/2024/09/24/opinion/biden-harris-irresponsible-legacy-debt-is-100-of-gdp-highest-since-wwii/>
>

how is japan running? their debt is like 250% or something.

On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:33:20 -0000 (UTC), kami <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:08:22 -0400, John Smyth wrote:
>
>> 4 more years of this mess? I hope not.
>>
>> 'Biden-Harris¢ irresponsible legacy: Debt is 100% of GDP, highest since
>> WWII'
>>
>> <https://nypost.com/2024/09/24/opinion/biden-harris-irresponsible-legacy-debt-is-100-of-gdp-highest-since-wwii/>
>>
>
>
>how is japan running? their debt is like 250% or something.

And their labor force is shrinking, their retirement population is exploding and
yet they seem to be hanging in there just fine.

We don't care about you.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UOlFdy0xzg0

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 40 days.

13) Trump disbanded the National Security Council's
pandemic response team.

14) Trump repeatedly lied about the danger of covid
saying it was no worse than the flue or that it would
go away on its own.

But behind closed doors, Trump admitted it was deadly.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ooq8fjp2mkfsilg9hvthptjcstroiaarcr@4ax.com:

> nozama <nozama@facebook.com> wrote:
>
>>That's the end result of vote buying [in the Biden/Trump contest,
>>allegedly] and Democrat administration. Democrats are sick people.
>
>
> DJT knows he lost, that others really believed otherwise is a tragedy
> of our world. The real potential for this "vote buying" would be
> canceled out due to the real desire, on both sides, to vote in 2020.
> It was as secure as is possible, in a pandemic.

Illegally, and in some state cases, unconstitutionally extending the
period of voting and vote counting, because of a phony communist
created virus outbreak until the candidate who was ahead when polls should
have officially closed loses is the proper description.

China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
disaster.

Get Letitia Next <pack.your.bags.letitia.james@ny.jail> wrote:

>Injection-Info: toxic.dizum.net; posting-host="localhost:127.0.0.1";
> logging-data="19463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@dizum.net"

Enough said.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> Get Letitia Next <pack.your.bags.letitia.james@ny.jail> wrote:
>
>> Injection-Info: toxic.dizum.net; posting-host="localhost:127.0.0.1";
>> logging-data="19463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@dizum.net"
>
>
> Enough said.

Nope:

"China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
disaster."

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>> Get Letitia Next <pack.your.bags.letitia.james@ny.jail> wrote:
>>
>>> Injection-Info: toxic.dizum.net; posting-host="localhost:127.0.0.1";
>>> logging-data="19463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@dizum.net"
>>
> > Enough said.
>
>Nope:
>
>"China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>disaster."

Preposterous.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>> Get Letitia Next <pack.your.bags.letitia.james@ny.jail> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Injection-Info: toxic.dizum.net; posting-host="localhost:127.0.0.1";
>>>> logging-data="19463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@dizum.net"
>>>
>>> Enough said.
>>
>> Nope:
>>
>> "China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>> disaster."
>
>
> Preposterous.
>
Yes, tritors like you and the Xiden crime family certainly are.

DROP DEAD!

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>>> "China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>>> disaster."
>>
>> Preposterous.
>>
>Yes, tritors like you and the Xiden crime family certainly are.
>
>DROP DEAD!

Do you wish for open war in the U.S.? Some do. Jesus saves, though.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>>> "China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>>>> disaster."
>>>
>>> Preposterous.
>>>
>> Yes, tritors like you and the Xiden crime family certainly are.
>>
>> DROP DEAD!
>
>
> Do you wish for open war in the U.S.?

No, just accountability for the treasonous deep state blood ticks that
are feeding off our liberties and rights.

> Some do.

Nebulous.

> Jesus saves, though.

He also does not tolerate defilers in the Temple:

https://youtu.be/g6FYLZouuMY

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>>>>> "China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>>>>> disaster."
>>>>
>>>> Preposterous.
>>>>
>>> Yes, tritors like you and the Xiden crime family certainly are.
>>>
>>> DROP DEAD!
>>
>> Do you wish for open war in the U.S.?
>
>No, just accountability for the treasonous deep state blood ticks that
>are feeding off our liberties and rights.
>
>> Some do.
>
>Nebulous.
>
>> Jesus saves, though.
>
>He also does not tolerate defilers in the Temple:
>
>https://youtu.be/g6FYLZouuMY

I am going to make America free for the first time.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 19:17:10 -0000 (UTC), Get Letitia Next
<pack.your.bags.letitia.james@ny.jail> wrote:

>Illegally, and in some state cases, unconstitutionally extending the
>period of voting and vote counting, because of a phony communist
>created virus outbreak until the candidate who was ahead when polls should
>have officially closed loses is the proper description.
>
>China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>disaster.

Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.

Until well into the 19th century, elections were usually held over a period of
weeks. Voting all in one day wasn't common until mid century.

In 2020, the reason the vote came in slowly was because REPUBLICAN legislatures
refused to count the mail in ballots as they arrived. They insisted on waiting
until election day to start opening the envelopes and begin the certification
and counting process. Even so, the conclusion reached on election night was not
changed by late counting. Another reason for late counting was REPUBLICANS
demanding recounts and audits. How times did Arizona get counted?

Just like a Republican to cause a problem, then complain about it and lay the
blame onto somebody else.

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 40 days.

13) Trump disbanded the National Security Council's
pandemic response team.

14) Trump repeatedly lied about the danger of covid
saying it was no worse than the flue or that it would
go away on its own.

But behind closed doors, Trump admitted it was deadly.

On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 15:33:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>>Joel wrote:
>>> Get Letitia Next <pack.your.bags.letitia.james@ny.jail> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Injection-Info: toxic.dizum.net; posting-host="localhost:127.0.0.1";
>>>> logging-data="19463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@dizum.net"
>>>
>> > Enough said.
>>
>>Nope:
>>
>>"China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>>disaster."
>
>
>Preposterous.

*shrug* Well, we know that Russian interference in 2016 resulted in a Trump
catastrophe.

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 40 days.

13) Trump disbanded the National Security Council's
pandemic response team.

14) Trump repeatedly lied about the danger of covid
saying it was no worse than the flue or that it would
go away on its own.

But behind closed doors, Trump admitted it was deadly.

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>>>>> "China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>>>>>> disaster."
>>>>>
>>>>> Preposterous.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, tritors like you and the Xiden crime family certainly are.
>>>>
>>>> DROP DEAD!
>>>
>>> Do you wish for open war in the U.S.?
>>
>> No, just accountability for the treasonous deep state blood ticks that
>> are feeding off our liberties and rights.
>>
>>> Some do.
>>
>> Nebulous.
>>
>>> Jesus saves, though.
>>
>> He also does not tolerate defilers in the Temple:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/g6FYLZouuMY
>
>
> I am going to make America free for the first time.

YOU are NOT the Christ.

But you will draw attention from Him regardless.

Is that your aim?

Matthew 24:36

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,
nor the Son, but the Father alone.

Luke 12:40

You too, be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour that you do
not expect.”

1 Thessalonians 5:2

For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come
just like a thief in the night.

Revelation 3:3

So remember what you have received and heard; and keep it, and repent.
Therefore if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will
not know at what hour I will come to you.

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Governor Swill wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 15:33:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>> Get Letitia Next <pack.your.bags.letitia.james@ny.jail> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Injection-Info: toxic.dizum.net; posting-host="localhost:127.0.0.1";
>>>>> logging-data="19463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@dizum.net"
>>>>
>>>> Enough said.
>>>
>>> Nope:
>>>
>>> "China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>>> disaster."
>>
>>
>> Preposterous.
>
> *shrug* Well, we know that Russian interference in 2016 resulted in a Trump
> catastrophe.
>
you didn't like that

Governor Swill wrote:
> Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.

Choose your cell # little man Rudey/Ball.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> Russian interference

Choose your cell # little man Rudey/Ball.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

@Multiple death threats against Trump@
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From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>> I am going to make America free for the first time.
>
>YOU are NOT the Christ.
>
>But you will draw attention from Him regardless.
>
>Is that your aim?
>
>Matthew 24:36
>
>“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,
>nor the Son, but the Father alone.
>
>Luke 12:40
>
>You too, be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour that you do
>not expect.”
>
>1 Thessalonians 5:2
>
>For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come
>just like a thief in the night.
>
>Revelation 3:3
>
>So remember what you have received and heard; and keep it, and repent.
>Therefore if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will
>not know at what hour I will come to you.

I am on the verge of completely overcoming schizophrenia, a massive
achievement, I am superhuman.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 15:33:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>>>
>>>"China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
>>>disaster."
>>
>>Preposterous.
>
>*shrug* Well, we know that Russian interference in 2016 resulted in a Trump
>catastrophe.

Incorrect, we lost 2016 because of Hillary Clinton being selected over
Bernie Sanders. If we'd rallied behind Bernie, the world would be a
very different place, today.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

In article <f5nbfjlc5gbac3pg0jssd60ldkgs7m4sa8@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 15:33:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>"China interferred in a US election resulting in the Biden / Harris
> >>>disaster."
> >>
> >>Preposterous.
> >
> >*shrug* Well, we know that Russian interference in 2016 resulted in a Trump
> >catastrophe.
>
>
> Incorrect, we lost 2016 because of Hillary Clinton being selected over
> Bernie Sanders. If we'd rallied behind Bernie, the world would be a
> very different place, today.

A sad and pathetic place it would be.

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>> I am going to make America free for the first time.
>>
>> YOU are NOT the Christ.
>>
>> But you will draw attention from Him regardless.
>>
>> Is that your aim?
>>
>> Matthew 24:36
>>
>> “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,
>> nor the Son, but the Father alone.
>>
>> Luke 12:40
>>
>> You too, be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour that you do
>> not expect.”
>>
>> 1 Thessalonians 5:2
>>
>> For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come
>> just like a thief in the night.
>>
>> Revelation 3:3
>>
>> So remember what you have received and heard; and keep it, and repent.
>> Therefore if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will
>> not know at what hour I will come to you.
>
>
> I am on the verge of completely overcoming schizophrenia, a massive
> achievement, I am superhuman.
>
In that case I wish you well and will pray for your recovery.

+

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Joel wrote:
> Incorrect, we lost 2016 because of Hillary Clinton being selected over
> Bernie Sanders. If we'd rallied behind Bernie, the world would be a
> very different place, today.

You are suffering from outlandish delusions still.

Sanders has fucked up everything he's touched, right back to his vodka
sipping days in the USSR.

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Governor Swill wrote:
> Trump
> catastrophe.

Choose your cell # little man Rudey/Jonathan Ball.

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Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

@Multiple death threats against Trump@
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> lay the
> blame onto somebody else.
>
> --

Choose your cell # little man Rudey/Jonathan Ball.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

@Multiple death threats against Trump@
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.