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* Running an electric car is twice as expensive as a petrol oneJohn Smyth
`- Re: Running an electric car is twice as expensive as a petrol oneEd

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Subject: Running an electric car is twice as expensive as a petrol one
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EV are a complete lost cause.

'Running an electric car is twice as expensive as a petrol one'

<https://finance.yahoo.com/news/running-electric-car-twice-expensive-124654026.html>

'Electric cars are up to twice as expensive as petrol or diesel vehicles
to run, new figures have suggested.

Running an electric vehicle (EV) can cost more than 24p per mile, while
a diesel vehicle is 12.5p.

It costs as much as 80p per kilowatt hour to charge an EV using a rapid
or ultra-rapid device on the roadside, according to data from the app
ZapMap.

A typical electric car will travel 3.3 miles for every kWh of
electricity used, meaning rapid and ultra-rapid chargers currently cost
the equivalent of 24.1p per mile, calculations by The Times suggest.

Slower chargers cost 16.4p per mile.

This is about double the average diesel car, which will do 43 miles per
gallon, resulting in a cost of 12.5p per mile at current prices. A
typical petrol car costs 14.5p per mile, according to the analysis.

A return journey from London to Penzance would cost £148 in an electric
car using rapid chargers, The Times said, compared with £77 in a diesel
car and £89 using petrol.

It added that at-home charging is much cheaper, at less than a third of
the price of the average rapid charger.

ZapMap found that prices at rapid chargers have increased by 5 per cent
over the past year, despite a 30 per cent decrease in the wholesale cost
of electricity.

This has coincided with a fall in the price of oil.

Even drivers who choose slower public chargers – the threshold is 50 Wh
of power, allowing a full recharge in around 30 minutes – are paying
more per mile than petrol and diesel drivers.

There was a 40 per cent increase in the number of rapid or ultra-rapid
charging stations across Britain, bringing the total to more than
12,500.

However, recent figures show sales of electric cars have significantly
slowed.

They account for 17.2 per cent of all new registrations since the
beginning of 2024. This marks a decrease from the 18.7 per cent high in
the latter half of 2022.

According to analysis, rapid and ultra-rapid chargers currently cost
electric car drivers the equivalent of 24.1p per mile, while slower
chargers cost the equivalent of 16.4p per mile.

Mike Hawes, the chief executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers,
told The Times: “It’s tough out there. Levels of demand are much, much
softer.”

Sales of electric cars in Europe are performing even worse than in the
UK, with figures showing registrations were down by 44 per cent in
August.

At-home charging is normally significantly cheaper than using public
points. However, a large number of households in the UK – almost half –
live in either terraced properties or flats, meaning they cannot use a
driveway or garage to allow charging at home.

'The AA has called for the Government to synchronise the level of VAT on
chargers, which is now 20 per cent, with the rate levied on at-home
electricity, which stands at 5 per cent.

Thom Groot, founder of the Electric Car Scheme, said: “We need to keep
stimulating demand with incentives and supporting consumers in making
the switch. The fact that people who charge at home pay less VAT than
those who use public chargers is unfair.”

There is also pressure on the Government to consider cutting VAT on
electric car sales or exempt electric cars from a new “luxury car
supplement”.

The supplement promises to impose a higher rate of road tax to cars that
cost more than £40,000. This is expected to impact about two-thirds of
electric cars.

Subject: Re: Running an electric car is twice as expensive as a petrol one
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>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/running-electric-car-twice-expensive-124654
>026.html

Trump says electric cars are left wing marxist so his kiddy fiddling
communist friend Elon can go take a hike.

One day real Americans will burn US coal in their cars and dump all that
foreign muslim controlled oil that people are addicted to now.

I hear they have no cars left in Russia because all the parts were stripped
out to be used as spares in the war. Russians are riding horses and
bicycles now.

Trump's never driven a car because he was raised pampered with a chauffer
at his beck and call from the age of 4.

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