$ uname -a
Linux lm 6.11.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Sep 19 04:20:54 PDT 2024 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

real 384.60
user 18007.15
sys 3648.83

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"Is it possible to feel gruntled?"

On 9/19/2024 8:57 AM, vallor wrote:
> $ uname -a
> Linux lm 6.11.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Sep 19 04:20:54 PDT 2024 x86_64
> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> real 384.60
> user 18007.15
> sys 3648.83

There's medication you can take for OCD, you know.

6.12 will have the last of the PREEMPT_RT patchset integrated.

On 19 Sep 2024 12:57:30 GMT, vallor wrote:

> $ uname -a
> Linux lm 6.11.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Sep 19 04:20:54 PDT 2024 x86_64
> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>

Good.

Now the next thing that you have to is actually configure the damned
thing rather than just accept the defaults.

Question: What is the size or you final compressed kernel image?

Here is mine (also 6.11):

ls -l /boot
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3216384 Sep 18 06:26 vmlinuz-611

That's just 3.22 megabytes. Yours must at least 10x.

But this is only a rough comparison because it doesn't include
the modules, but you must build about 100x as many modules as
I do.

Don't forget. Next time CONFIGURE.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:49:25 +0000, Cy DeMillion <cyde@loozers.net> wrote
in <pan$2ca4c$cb55c12b$15e553ab$6a2e1ae3@loozers.net>:

> On 19 Sep 2024 12:57:30 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>> $ uname -a
>> Linux lm 6.11.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Sep 19 04:20:54 PDT 2024 x86_64
>> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>
> Good.
>
> Now the next thing that you have to is actually configure the damned
> thing rather than just accept the defaults.

Hi Larry. :)

>
> Question: What is the size or you final compressed kernel image?
>
> Here is mine (also 6.11):
>
> ls -l /boot
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3216384 Sep 18 06:26 vmlinuz-611
>
> That's just 3.22 megabytes. Yours must at least 10x.

$ ll /boot/vmlinuz-6.11.0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10781184 Sep 19 04:31 /boot/vmlinuz-6.11.0

11M. Big woop, I have scads of disk space and memory.

>
> But this is only a rough comparison because it doesn't include
> the modules, but you must build about 100x as many modules as
> I do.

I build a "kitchen sink" kernel with almost all the modules,
and it takes about 6 minutes.

> Don't forget. Next time CONFIGURE.

I "CONFIGURE"d several versions ago. Now I just copy
over my .config, "make oldconfig", and configure new variables
that have been added.

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"URA Redneck if you own more TV's than books."

On 21 Sep 2024 01:42:52 GMT, vallor wrote:

>
> 11M. Big woop, I have scads of disk space and memory.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

That summarizes the dominant philosophy of commercial programming
today. If your code is bloated, inefficient, and a memory hog, just add more
memory and crank up the processor. There is no need to waste time, and
money, on silly improvements when hardware is so cheap.

Probably 99% of commercial software is built with this philosophy.

That's why a simple text editor on Microslop Winblows can be 300Mb.

Soon it will be 3 Gb for "Hello World."

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:27:49 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:

>
> Probably 99% of commercial software is built with this philosophy.
>
> That's why a simple text editor on Microslop Winblows can be 300Mb.
>

Let's contrast this with the quintessential Unix editor "cooledit," which
is a total GUI program with extensive features:

ls -l /usr/local/bin/cooledit
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 342400 Sep 25 2021 /usr/local/bin/cooledit

We need also the shared library:

ls -l /usr/local/lib64/libCw.so.1.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 597768 Sep 25 2021 /usr/local/lib64/libCw.so.1.0.0

So, 342400 + 597768 = 940168

Thus, for only 940 Kbytes on GNU/Linux we have a text editor that surpasses
most, if not all, Microslop text editors that require 300X the code.

Whew! If that's not an indictment of the junk Microslop I don't know what would
be.

Keep in mind that cooledit has syntax highlighting, compiling, debugging, email,
and a LOT of other fundamental stuff built in -- all within less than a megabyte
of code.

That's GNU/Linux power!

On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:53:10 +0000, Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote in
<17f74d50a832220a$1642$1111581$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:27:49 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>
>>
>> Probably 99% of commercial software is built with this philosophy.
>>
>> That's why a simple text editor on Microslop Winblows can be 300Mb.
>>
>
> Let's contrast this with the quintessential Unix editor "cooledit,"
which
> is a total GUI program with extensive features:
>
> ls -l /usr/local/bin/cooledit
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 342400 Sep 25 2021 /usr/local/bin/cooledit
>
> We need also the shared library:
>
> ls -l /usr/local/lib64/libCw.so.1.0.0
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 597768 Sep 25 2021 /usr/local/lib64/libCw.so.
1.0.0
>
> So, 342400 + 597768 = 940168
>
> Thus, for only 940 Kbytes on GNU/Linux we have a text editor that
surpasses
> most, if not all, Microslop text editors that require 300X the code.
>
> Whew! If that's not an indictment of the junk Microslop I don't know
what would
> be.
>
> Keep in mind that cooledit has syntax highlighting, compiling,
debugging, email,
> and a LOT of other fundamental stuff built in -- all within less than a
megabyte
> of code.
>
> That's GNU/Linux power!

I just looked at Cooledit screen shots, and thought "ugh".

The fonts are fugly, for one.

I just use joe in my terminal window, which has smooth
fonts, as well as syntax highlighting. I won't tolerate
pixelated fonts in any of my programs

$ ll /usr/bin/joe
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 747344 Sep 5 2019 /usr/bin/joe

But I'm not going to play "editor wars". If you like
Cooledit, more power to you.

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"Unsolicited advice answers unasked questions"

On 21 Sep 2024 16:53:09 GMT, vallor wrote:

>
> I just looked at Cooledit screen shots, and thought "ugh".
>
> The fonts are fugly, for one.
>

You are most likely looking at the obsolete versions of
Cooledit.

The latest version, 4.1.2 is located here:

ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/apps/editors/X/cooledit/

There are no screenshots available.

However, the 4.1.2 version uses the Google Notosans fonts
for Unicode coverage. These fonts are not very attractive.

But I have patched the source code to use the Liberation fonts
which are very nice.

Here is the result:

https://i.postimg.cc/t4WRB6WX/cooledit.png

Do you want the patch?

I only provide my outstanding software patches, free of charge,
to worthy individuals.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 17:38:17 +0000, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote in
<pan$2d7c7$6bbe7257$a3424ceb$3da5d5c0@gnu.rocks>:

> On 21 Sep 2024 16:53:09 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>
>> I just looked at Cooledit screen shots, and thought "ugh".
>>
>> The fonts are fugly, for one.
>>
>>
> You are most likely looking at the obsolete versions of Cooledit.
>
> The latest version, 4.1.2 is located here:
>
> ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/apps/editors/X/cooledit/
>
> There are no screenshots available.
>
> However, the 4.1.2 version uses the Google Notosans fonts for Unicode
> coverage. These fonts are not very attractive.
>
> But I have patched the source code to use the Liberation fonts which are
> very nice.
>
> Here is the result:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/t4WRB6WX/cooledit.png
>
> Do you want the patch?
>
> I only provide my outstanding software patches, free of charge,
> to worthy individuals.

Keep it. The screenshot shows a font that -- while less
jaggy -- is still jaggy.

(My terminal emulator font is "Liberation Mono Regular"
and looks typeset.)

(BTW, if you were serious about open source, you'd patch
the software to allow one to select the font, then send
a pull request to the author. 'Nuff said?)

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"The brain you have reached is out of order at this time."

On 22 Sep 2024 16:59:13 GMT, vallor wrote:

>
> Keep it. The screenshot shows a font that -- while less
> jaggy -- is still jaggy.
>
> (My terminal emulator font is "Liberation Mono Regular"
> and looks typeset.)
>

Jaggy my fucking ass.

Your monitor must be FUBAR cheap Chinese junk.

The fonts are rendered using libfreetype and in cooledit they
are the same quality as in any other application.

On my system Liberation is clear, crisp, and impeccable.

Your system must be total junk, or your eyeballs must be
FUBAR.

>
> (BTW, if you were serious about open source, you'd patch
> the software to allow one to select the font, then send
> a pull request to the author. 'Nuff said?)
>

There are ways to select the font on the command line, as well
as in the configuration file, but to avoid that I patched the code.

I am in contact with Paul Sheer, the author of cooledit, and
he informs me that the next version will include the option
to select the font through a drop-down tool.

One must remember that cooledit, being "ancient" software, is
based only on X libraries but it still does a fantastic job
provided that one knows how to actually use a Unix system.

Also remember: my assessment is worth far, far, far more than
your warped opinions and fucked up perception.

I MANGLE people who dare to doubt my phenomenal expertise.

Cooledit is a GNU/Linux jewel that is worthy only for
for highly competent individuals -- and that is NOT you.

Go slither through shit with the rest of your species.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On 22 Sep 2024 19:06:35 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> I won't believe that until I see a comment in this way in his github
> repo.
>

I don't care what you believe.

You believe that YOU are a sentient being and that alone quashes all
of your ridiculous suppositions.

I communicate directly via email and not through the intermediary of
that shit-junk github.

There is problem with the 4.x.x version of "coolman" which is probably
the best man page viewer ever written.

I have debugged the problem and when I have the time I shall provide
a patch.

What do YOU do?

YOU do nothing except feebly attack your undisputed superiors, such
as myself.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On 9/22/2024 1:34 PM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:

> I am in contact with Paul Sheer, the author of cooledit,

Ask him if he still spies on cooledit users.

<quote>
STATISTICS OF COOLEDIT USAGE
Cooledit mailed me when it first ran on the following machines.

There were a total of 22524 unique addresses as of September 2000.

AUTHORS
Paul Sheer (psheer /AT/ icon.co.za)

4 April 2005
</quote>

http://swoolley.org/man.cgi/1/cooledit

On 9/22/2024 3:53 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 9/22/2024 1:34 PM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:
>
>
>> I am in contact with Paul Sheer, the author of cooledit,
>
>
> Ask him if he still spies on cooledit users.
>
>
> <quote>
> STATISTICS OF COOLEDIT USAGE
> Cooledit mailed me when it first ran on the following machines.
>
> There  were  a total of 22524 unique addresses as of September 2000.
>
> AUTHORS
> Paul Sheer (psheer /AT/ icon.co.za)
>
> 4 April 2005
> </quote>
>
> http://swoolley.org/man.cgi/1/cooledit

dead link, but the same info is here:

https://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/cooledit/

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"STATISTICS OF COOLEDIT USAGE
Cooledit mailed me when it first ran on the following machines.
unknown 84
alpha-debian-linux-gnu 4
alpha-dec-osf2.1 1
alpha-dec-osf3.2 12
alpha-dec-osf4.0 13
alpha-dec-osf4.0b 2
alpha-dec-osf4.0d 5
alpha-dec-osf4.0f 3
alpha-unknown-linux 62
alpha-unknown-linux-gnu 28
alpha-unknown-none 2
alphaev5-dec-osf4.0a 1
alphaev5-dec-osf4.0b 3
alphaev5-dec-osf4.0d 8
alphaev5-unknown-linux-gnu 2
alphaev5-unknown-linux-gnulibc1 6
alphaev56-dec-osf4.0b 4
alphaev56-dec-osf4.0d 14
alphaev56-dec-osf4.0e 2
alphaev56-dec-osf5.0 2
alphaev56-unknown-linux-gnu 8
arm-linux-elf 1
arm-unknown-linux-gnu 1
arm-unknown-linux-gnuelf 7
armv4l-unknown-linux-gnu 2
hppa1.0-hp-hpux10.20 5
hppa1.0-hp-hpux11.00 1
hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.01 3
hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.10 39
hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20 350
hppa1.1-hp-hpux11.00 5
hppa1.1-hp-hpux8.07 1
hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.01 3
hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.03 10
hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.05 8
hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.07 1
hppa2.0-hp-hpux10.20 4
hppa2.0n-hp-hpux11.00 11
hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00 7
i386-gnu-linux-gnu 1
i386-pc-bsdi3.1 1
i386-pc-bsdi4.0 2
i386-pc-linux-gnu 1
i386-pc-sco3.2v5.0.5 1
i386-pc-solaris2.6 3
i386-pc-solaris2.7 9
i386-unknown-bsdi2.1 3
i386-unknown-bsdi3.0 1
i386-unknown-freebsd2.1.5 1
i386-unknown-freebsd2.1.6 4
i386-unknown-freebsd2.1.7 1
i386-unknown-freebsd2.2 4
i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.2 4
i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.5 16
i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.6 9
i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.7 14
i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.8 1
i386-unknown-freebsd3.0 10
i386-unknown-freebsd3.1 13
i386-unknown-freebsd4.0 2
i386-unknown-freebsdelf3.0 1
i386-unknown-freebsdelf3.1 3
i386-unknown-freebsdelf3.2 7
i386-unknown-freebsdelf3.3 7
i386-unknown-freebsdelf3.4 5
i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.0 15
i386-unknown-linux 11
i386-unknown-netbsd1.1 1
i386-unknown-netbsd1.3.2 2
i386-unknown-netbsd1.4 1
i386-unknown-netbsd1.4.1 1
i386-unknown-netbsd1.4I 1
i386-unknown-netbsd1.4K 1
i386-unknown-none 4
i386-unknown-openbsd2.3 1
i386-unknown-openbsd2.4 2
i386-unknown-openbsd2.5 6
i386-unknown-openbsd2.6 4
i386-unknown-solaris2.5.1 5
i386-unknown-solaris2.6 2
i486-ibm-linux 1
i486-pc-linux-gnu 84
i486-pc-linux-gnulibc1 95
i486-pc-linux-gnuoldld 1
i486-unknown-linux 1522
i486-unknown-linuxaout 6
i486-unknown-linuxoldld 1
i486-unknown-none 2
i486-unknown-solaris2.5.1 1
i586-intel-linux 4
i586-intel-none 4
i586-k6-linux-gnu 2
i586-mandrake-linux-gnu 90
i586-pc-linux-gnu 2792
i586-pc-linux-gnuaout 1
i586-pc-linux-gnucoff 1
i586-pc-linux-gnulibc1 732
i586-pc-none 1
i586-pc-sco3.2v5.0.2 1
i586-redhat-linux 1
i586-unknown-linux 2844
i586-unknown-linuxaout 5
i586-unknown-none 12
i586-unknown-sco3.2v4.2 1
i586-unknown-sco3.2v5.0.2 1
i686-pc-linux-gnu 14457
i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 867
i686-pc-none 1
i686-redhat-linux-gnu 1
i686-tech-linux-gnu 1
i686-unknown-linux 6
i686-unknown-linux-gnu 3
m68k-apple-netbsd1.3.3 1
m68k-unknown-linux-gnu 2
mips-dec-ultrix4.3 1
mips-sgi-irix5.3 36
mips-sgi-irix6.2 33
mips-sgi-irix6.3 13
mips-sgi-irix6.4 2
mips-sgi-irix6.5 22
mips-sni-sysv4 3
mips-unknown-linux 2
powerpc-ibm-aix3.2.5 2
powerpc-ibm-aix4.1.4.0 3
powerpc-ibm-aix4.1.5.0 5
powerpc-ibm-aix4.2.1.0 16
powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.1.0 1
powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.2.0 2
powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.3.0 1
powerpc-unknown-linux 1
powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu 2
rs6000-ibm-aix4.1.4.0 3
rs6000-ibm-aix4.2.0.0 1
sparc-mandrake-linux-gnu 1
sparc-sun-solaris2.4 20
sparc-sun-solaris2.5 63
sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1 200
sparc-sun-solaris2.6 224
sparc-sun-solaris2.7 46
sparc-sun-solaris2.8 1
sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3 2
sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3_U1 6
sparc-sun-sunos4.1.4 8
sparc-unknown-linux 3
sparc-unknown-linux-gnu 16
sparc64-unknown-linux-gnu 3

There were a total of 22524 unique addresses as of September 2000. I
don't know if it completely worked on these machines, but it certainly
compiled and ran. I also don't know if the user's had to make
modifications to get it to compile."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On 9/22/2024 3:51 PM, Lameass Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:

> There is problem with the 4.x.x version of "coolman" which is probably
> the best man page viewer ever written.

"DESCRIPTION
This man page reader just views the output of the man system command,
with a nice point and click, drag and drop, GUI."

https://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1//coolman/

I'm so shocked that you're actually a faggot hypocrite GUI-pussy.

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:34:05 +0000, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote in
<pan$def33$a213bc3c$8c953fcc$4965f138@gnu.rocks>:

> On 22 Sep 2024 16:59:13 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>
>> Keep it. The screenshot shows a font that -- while less jaggy -- is
>> still jaggy.
>>
>> (My terminal emulator font is "Liberation Mono Regular" and looks
>> typeset.)
>>
>>
> Jaggy my fucking ass.

Okay, so your fucking ass is jaggy too.

> Your monitor must be FUBAR cheap Chinese junk.

No, it's not.

>
> The fonts are rendered using libfreetype and in cooledit they are the
> same quality as in any other application.

Then why are they jaggy?

> On my system Liberation is clear, crisp, and impeccable.

I can't help it if you have no discernment.

https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe

That's what it should look like, not what you posted.

> Your system must be total junk, or your eyeballs must be FUBAR.

Your screenshot shows _less_ jaggies than the original screenshot
I saw, but yelling and shaking your fist at the clouds won't
change the sub-optimal anti-aliasing in the screenshot you posted.

> Also remember: my assessment is worth far, far, far more than your
> warped opinions and fucked up perception.

Everybody can see the flaws in your screenshot. You aren't
fooling anybody.

BTW, if I were a suspicious person, I'd think you tried
to blur the screenshot to make the font look less jaggy.
Again, you're fooling nobody.

> I MANGLE people who dare to doubt my phenomenal expertise.

The only thing you mangle is your font.

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"Obiwankenobiphobia: Fear of Jedi Masters"

Le 22-09-2024, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
> On 22 Sep 2024 19:06:35 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> I won't believe that until I see a comment in this way in his github
>> repo.
>
> I don't care what you believe.

In fact, you do because you said in the part of your message you removed
that you mangle every one who doubt you. So, I doubt you and you want to
mangle me because you care.

> You believe that YOU are a sentient being and that alone quashes all
> of your ridiculous suppositions.

That's a good one. Thanks for the laugh.

> I communicate directly via email and not through the intermediary of
> that shit-junk github.

I knew you don't know how git is working. I'm not speaking about github,
which I agree to say it's normal to refuse to use it, but about git
itself, which is good.

So I said only about a comment on his github repo. Meaning that if he
ever includes you code, which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist, he wouldn't
make believe the code is his but he would credit you about it. It's the
purpose of a comment.

> There is problem with the 4.x.x version of "coolman" which is probably
> the best man page viewer ever written.

It's a GUI text editor. It can't compete with vim or Emacs. You should
be aware of your limitations when you criticise the GUI and defend GUI
text editors at the same time. There is no need of a GUI to edit some
text. If you are in need for it, you show your limitations.

> I have debugged the problem and when I have the time I shall provide
> a patch.

As I said: I'm waiting for a comment on his github repo before believing
it.

> What do YOU do?

Don't change the subject. You are speaking about yourself. What I do is
irrelevant to believing in your claims.

> YOU do nothing except feebly attack your undisputed superiors, such
> as myself.

I don't attack undisputed superiors. I'm attacking your claims. Which is
different. I'm not really attacking you, but the difference between you
and your claims can be tricky to understand for a lunatic living in an
asylum.

And, as we both know, by "undisputed superiors" you speak about you, who
are more of a joke than of a human being, I have to tell you: you never
provided any hint about your superiority on me in any subject. Your are
probably the only human being in the all universe to be inferior to me.
Every one on earth can do things I can't do and I can do things that the
others can't. There is no one thing I'm the only one in the world able
to do, mind you, the things others can't do depend on the others. Except
for you: the more I read you, the more I believe you are the only one
unable to do anything I can do. And, I believe, I can do ten times better
than you anything you can do. You are a wonder in this way. You can't be
real. Either you are a bot or you are faking your stupidity, which is
beyond imagination, I have still no explanation.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Le 22-09-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
> BTW, if I were a suspicious person, I'd think you tried
> to blur the screenshot to make the font look less jaggy.

You miss something. You not only need to be suspicious, but you would
need to grant him some technical abilities at the same time. So, the
case is closed: he didn't fake anything because he can't.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

On 22 Sep 2024 20:29:41 GMT, vallor wrote:

>>>
>> Jaggy my fucking ass.
>
> Okay, so your fucking ass is jaggy too.
>

Ha. Ha. Ha.

Your failure at wittiness is only exceeded by your stupidity
regarding GNU/Linux.

Get the fuck outa here!

Cooledit is the choice all GNU/Linux aficionados.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On 22 Sep 2024 21:06:15 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
>> What do YOU do?
>
> Don't change the subject. You are speaking about yourself. What I do is
> irrelevant to believing in your claims.
>

Incorrect.

The spirit of FOSS demands that users contribute in every way in which
they are able. That could be patches, bug reports, comments, etc.

But YOU do not contribute. You are just a selfish user with a big,
fat, useless mouth.

FOSS does not need YOU, but if does need ME.

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 21:44:14 +0000, Cy DeMillion <cyde@loozers.net> wrote
in <pan$7cdf0$41e91e2f$62afe39d$dedd3702@loozers.net>:

> On 22 Sep 2024 21:06:15 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>
>>> What do YOU do?
>>
>> Don't change the subject. You are speaking about yourself. What I do is
>> irrelevant to believing in your claims.
>>
>>
> Incorrect.
>
> The spirit of FOSS demands that users contribute in every way in which
> they are able. That could be patches, bug reports, comments, etc.
>
> But YOU do not contribute. You are just a selfish user with a big, fat,
> useless mouth.
>
> FOSS does not need YOU, but if does need ME.

Your nym-shifting to stay out of killfiles is getting
old.

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G

vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 21:44:14 +0000, Cy DeMillion <cyde@loozers.net> wrote
> in <pan$7cdf0$41e91e2f$62afe39d$dedd3702@loozers.net>:
>
>> On 22 Sep 2024 21:06:15 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> What do YOU do?
>>>
>>> Don't change the subject. You are speaking about yourself. What I do is
>>> irrelevant to believing in your claims.
>>>
>>>
>> Incorrect.
>>
>> The spirit of FOSS demands that users contribute in every way in which
>> they are able. That could be patches, bug reports, comments, etc.
>>
>> But YOU do not contribute. You are just a selfish user with a big, fat,
>> useless mouth.
>>
>> FOSS does not need YOU, but if does need ME.
>
> Your nym-shifting to stay out of killfiles is getting
> old.
>
who is , " if " and why does , " if " need him

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 15:45:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<yxWdnSh4dJeHA237nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 21:44:14 +0000, Cy DeMillion <cyde@loozers.net>
>> wrote in <pan$7cdf0$41e91e2f$62afe39d$dedd3702@loozers.net>:
>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2024 21:06:15 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> What do YOU do?
>>>>
>>>> Don't change the subject. You are speaking about yourself. What I do
>>>> is irrelevant to believing in your claims.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> The spirit of FOSS demands that users contribute in every way in which
>>> they are able. That could be patches, bug reports, comments, etc.
>>>
>>> But YOU do not contribute. You are just a selfish user with a big,
>>> fat,
>>> useless mouth.
>>>
>>> FOSS does not need YOU, but if does need ME.
>>
>> Your nym-shifting to stay out of killfiles is getting old.
>>
> who is , " if " and why does , " if " need him

It's a sign of his imperfect command of the keyboard.

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:14:50 -0400, DFS wrote:

> "DESCRIPTION This man page reader just views the output of the man
> system command, with a nice point and click, drag and drop, GUI."

KDE Konqueror already does that. And info pages as well. Besides being a
web browser, it’s also a file manager. And possibly some other things I
can’t remember off the top of my head right now.

Yup, it’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:08:00 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 9/22/2024 3:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>
> https://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/cooledit/
>
> alpha-unknown-linux 62
> alpha-unknown-linux-gnu 28
> hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.10 39
> hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20 350
> i486-unknown-linux 1522
> i686-pc-linux-gnu 14457
> i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 867
> mips-sgi-irix5.3 36
> mips-sgi-irix6.2 33
> mips-sgi-irix6.3 13
> mips-sgi-irix6.5 22
> sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1 200
> sparc-sun-solaris2.6 224

Gee, I wonder if any Dimdows software can claim that kind of cross-
platform support ...