Trump wasn't allowed to tell all his lies that night so he ended up looking
like a demented old fool gibber jabbering away in some back alley.

During Tuesday night's presidential debate, Donald Trump made at least 30
false claims�and he got away with most of them, in spite of the ABC News
anchors' robust fact-checking of the president in real time.

The moderators stepped in four times to correct the record on the former
president�s more outlandish claims during his wild showdown with Kamala
Harris, including his assertion that illegal immigrants are eating pets and
that Democrats support killing babies after they are born. They also
flagged his claim that �crime is through the roof,� pointing out data
showing violent crime has fallen.

Trump spent much of Wednesday ranting and raving against ABC News on his
social media platform Truth Social, posting in rapid-fire succession links
from far-right news sources siding with the former president, who said he
got a �rigged deal� from the network. He told Fox News the moderators were
�correcting everything� he said while letting Harris off scot-free. Why?
�Because they�re dishonest," he said.

But the moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, didn�t fact-check Trump on
everything. In fact, many of his other lies went unchecked. Here�s what
slipped by.
Immigration

Trump repeated one of his favorite false claims about dangerous illegal
immigrants flooding the Southern border. �We have millions of people
pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions
and insane asylums,� he said, adding that �21 million people� were pouring
in.

In reality, there have been about 10 million encounters with migrants at
the border since Joe Biden took office. Though there�s no publicly
available data about prison time or residents of mental institutions, of
the 1.4 million migrants apprehended at the border this year, Border Patrol
has found only about 1 percent have criminal convictions.
The Economy

Trump lied about the state of the economy during his own presidency and Joe
Biden�s.

�I had no inflation, virtually no inflation,� he said. �They had the
highest inflation, perhaps in the history of our country.�

Though inflation fell at the end of Trump�s term, the cumulative rate over
the course of his presidency was about 7.8 percent, according to CNN. And
though inflation has been much higher since Biden took office, it has
fallen over the past two years and came nowhere close to previous historic
highs seen in the 20th century.

Trump also said the only jobs created under the Biden administration were
�bounce-back� jobs that were lost to the pandemic but have now appeared
again. However, employment totals passed their pre-pandemic levels in the
summer of 2022, and the U.S. has added millions more jobs since then.
Ukraine

On the topic of Russia�s war against Ukraine, Trump alleged that Harris met
with Vladimir Putin to try to stop him from invading Ukraine but that
�three days later, he went in, and he started the war because everything
they said was weak and stupid.�

Harris didn�t meet with Putin, but she did meet with U.S. allies at the
Munich Security Conference in the days before the war began.

Trump also said the U.S. has given over $100 billion more to Ukraine than
Europe has. According to a tracker from the German-based Kiel Institute,
Europe had allocated and committed tens of billions more.
Joe Biden

At times, Trump seemed to long for his old opponent, mentioning Biden
throughout the evening. In addition to the wild claim that the president
�hates� Harris, his handpicked successor, the former president accused
Biden of receiving �millions of dollars� from China and Ukraine and of
orchestrating the criminal cases against him.

There is no evidence for either claim.
Other Lies

Trump also falsely said the Central Park Five �pled guilty� and �killed a
person,� both of which are not true. They pleaded not guilty but served
years in prison after they were falsely accused of the brutal sexual attack
on a jogger, before they were exonerated years later. Trump took out full-
page ads in the city�s newspapers against the five teenagers, suggesting
they be put to death.

He said former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi �was responsible� for the
Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol because �she didn�t do her job.� Trump
was indicted for conspiracy to subvert democracy for his role in the deadly
insurrection, the day he invited unruly supporters to come to Washington
and �fight like hell� to prevent the certification of Joe Biden�s electoral
victory.

He also wasted no opportunity to lie about his opponent on the debate
stage, employing a familiar attack about her previous presidential bid.
�When she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed,� he said.

In fact, more than a dozen candidates dropped out of the crowded Democratic
primary field before Harris in 2019, including several governors, New York
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, and former Rep. Beto O�Rourke.

On Sep 13, 2024 at 8:46:27 PM MST, ""."" wrote
<vc30uj$1991s$10@dont-email.me>:

> Trump wasn't allowed to tell all his lies that night so he ended up looking
> like a demented old fool gibber jabbering away in some back alley.

Looked like and IS.
>
> During Tuesday night's presidential debate, Donald Trump made at least 30
> false claims—and he got away with most of them, in spite of the ABC News
> anchors' robust fact-checking of the president in real time.
>
> The moderators stepped in four times to correct the record on the former
> president’s more outlandish claims during his wild showdown with Kamala
> Harris, including his assertion that illegal immigrants are eating pets and
> that Democrats support killing babies after they are born. They also
> flagged his claim that “crime is through the roof,” pointing out data
> showing violent crime has fallen.

They should have a team of fact checkers who call the candidates out in real
time. Flash a big red light when they are lying.
>
> Trump spent much of Wednesday ranting and raving against ABC News on his
> social media platform Truth Social, posting in rapid-fire succession links
> from far-right news sources siding with the former president, who said he
> got a “rigged deal” from the network. He told Fox News the moderators were
> “correcting everything” he said while letting Harris off scot-free. Why?
> “Because they’re dishonest," he said.

They are not obligated to pretend the two candidates are equally insane.
>
> But the moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, didn’t fact-check Trump on
> everything. In fact, many of his other lies went unchecked. Here’s what
> slipped by.
> Immigration
>
> Trump repeated one of his favorite false claims about dangerous illegal
> immigrants flooding the Southern border. “We have millions of people
> pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions
> and insane asylums,” he said, adding that “21 million people” were pouring
> in.
>
> In reality, there have been about 10 million encounters with migrants at
> the border since Joe Biden took office. Though there’s no publicly
> available data about prison time or residents of mental institutions, of
> the 1.4 million migrants apprehended at the border this year, Border Patrol
> has found only about 1 percent have criminal convictions.

Immigrants have a lower rate of violent crime than do citizens.

> The Economy
>
> Trump lied about the state of the economy during his own presidency and Joe
> Biden’s.
>
> “I had no inflation, virtually no inflation,” he said. “They had the
> highest inflation, perhaps in the history of our country.”
>
> Though inflation fell at the end of Trump’s term, the cumulative rate over
> the course of his presidency was about 7.8 percent, according to CNN. And
> though inflation has been much higher since Biden took office, it has
> fallen over the past two years and came nowhere close to previous historic
> highs seen in the 20th century.

And that inflation is strongly tied to the pandemic, Ukraine, and
"greedflation" where the rich are getting richer.
>
> Trump also said the only jobs created under the Biden administration were
> “bounce-back” jobs that were lost to the pandemic but have now appeared
> again. However, employment totals passed their pre-pandemic levels in the
> summer of 2022, and the U.S. has added millions more jobs since then.

Trump lies about everything... and his insane cult slurps it up.

> Ukraine
>
> On the topic of Russia’s war against Ukraine, Trump alleged that Harris met
> with Vladimir Putin to try to stop him from invading Ukraine but that
> “three days later, he went in, and he started the war because everything
> they said was weak and stupid.”
>
> Harris didn’t meet with Putin, but she did meet with U.S. allies at the
> Munich Security Conference in the days before the war began.
>
> Trump also said the U.S. has given over $100 billion more to Ukraine than
> Europe has. According to a tracker from the German-based Kiel Institute,
> Europe had allocated and committed tens of billions more.

Good to know. And not surprising.

> Joe Biden
>
> At times, Trump seemed to long for his old opponent, mentioning Biden
> throughout the evening. In addition to the wild claim that the president
> “hates” Harris, his handpicked successor, the former president accused
> Biden of receiving “millions of dollars” from China and Ukraine and of
> orchestrating the criminal cases against him.
>
> There is no evidence for either claim.

But his cult will slurp it up.

> Other Lies
>
> Trump also falsely said the Central Park Five “pled guilty” and “killed a
> person,” both of which are not true. They pleaded not guilty but served
> years in prison after they were falsely accused of the brutal sexual attack
> on a jogger, before they were exonerated years later. Trump took out full-
> page ads in the city’s newspapers against the five teenagers, suggesting
> they be put to death.

Like many in his cult, he will attack poor people of color. Easy to predict.
>
> He said former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi “was responsible” for the
> Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol because “she didn’t do her job.” Trump
> was indicted for conspiracy to subvert democracy for his role in the deadly
> insurrection, the day he invited unruly supporters to come to Washington
> and “fight like hell” to prevent the certification of Joe Biden’s electoral
> victory.

Jon Stewart covers some of this well.
>
> He also wasted no opportunity to lie about his opponent on the debate
> stage, employing a familiar attack about her previous presidential bid.
> “When she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed,” he said.
>
> In fact, more than a dozen candidates dropped out of the crowded Democratic
> primary field before Harris in 2019, including several governors, New York
> Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke.

He is a nonstop liar... like many of his cult supporters.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote:
> On Sep 13, 2024 at 8:46:27 PM MST, ""."" wrote
> <vc30uj$1991s$10@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Trump wasn't allowed to tell all his lies that night so he ended up looking
>> like a demented old fool gibber jabbering away in some back alley.
>
> Looked like and IS.
>>
>> During Tuesday night's presidential debate, Donald Trump made at least 30
>> false claims—and he got away with most of them, in spite of the ABC News
>> anchors' robust fact-checking of the president in real time.
>>
>> The moderators stepped in four times to correct the record on the former
>> president’s more outlandish claims during his wild showdown with Kamala
>> Harris, including his assertion that illegal immigrants are eating pets and
>> that Democrats support killing babies after they are born. They also
>> flagged his claim that “crime is through the roof,” pointing out data
>> showing violent crime has fallen.
>
> They should have a team of fact checkers who call the candidates out in real
> time. Flash a big red light when they are lying.
>>
>> Trump spent much of Wednesday ranting and raving against ABC News on his
>> social media platform Truth Social, posting in rapid-fire succession links
>> from far-right news sources siding with the former president, who said he
>> got a “rigged deal” from the network. He told Fox News the moderators were
>> “correcting everything” he said while letting Harris off scot-free. Why?
>> “Because they’re dishonest," he said.
>
> They are not obligated to pretend the two candidates are equally insane.
>>
>> But the moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, didn’t fact-check Trump on
>> everything. In fact, many of his other lies went unchecked. Here’s what
>> slipped by.
>> Immigration
>>
>> Trump repeated one of his favorite false claims about dangerous illegal
>> immigrants flooding the Southern border. “We have millions of people
>> pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions
>> and insane asylums,” he said, adding that “21 million people” were pouring
>> in.
>>
>> In reality, there have been about 10 million encounters with migrants at
>> the border since Joe Biden took office. Though there’s no publicly
>> available data about prison time or residents of mental institutions, of
>> the 1.4 million migrants apprehended at the border this year, Border Patrol
>> has found only about 1 percent have criminal convictions.
>
> Immigrants have a lower rate of violent crime than do citizens.
>
>> The Economy
>>
>> Trump lied about the state of the economy during his own presidency and Joe
>> Biden’s.
>>
>> “I had no inflation, virtually no inflation,” he said. “They had the
>> highest inflation, perhaps in the history of our country.”
>>
>> Though inflation fell at the end of Trump’s term, the cumulative rate over
>> the course of his presidency was about 7.8 percent, according to CNN. And
>> though inflation has been much higher since Biden took office, it has
>> fallen over the past two years and came nowhere close to previous historic
>> highs seen in the 20th century.
>
> And that inflation is strongly tied to the pandemic, Ukraine, and
> "greedflation" where the rich are getting richer.
>>
>> Trump also said the only jobs created under the Biden administration were
>> “bounce-back” jobs that were lost to the pandemic but have now appeared
>> again. However, employment totals passed their pre-pandemic levels in the
>> summer of 2022, and the U.S. has added millions more jobs since then.
>
> Trump lies about everything... and his insane cult slurps it up.
>
>> Ukraine
>>
>> On the topic of Russia’s war against Ukraine, Trump alleged that Harris met
>> with Vladimir Putin to try to stop him from invading Ukraine but that
>> “three days later, he went in, and he started the war because everything
>> they said was weak and stupid.”
>>
>> Harris didn’t meet with Putin, but she did meet with U.S. allies at the
>> Munich Security Conference in the days before the war began.
>>
>> Trump also said the U.S. has given over $100 billion more to Ukraine than
>> Europe has. According to a tracker from the German-based Kiel Institute,
>> Europe had allocated and committed tens of billions more.
>
> Good to know. And not surprising.
>
>> Joe Biden
>>
>> At times, Trump seemed to long for his old opponent, mentioning Biden
>> throughout the evening. In addition to the wild claim that the president
>> “hates” Harris, his handpicked successor, the former president accused
>> Biden of receiving “millions of dollars” from China and Ukraine and of
>> orchestrating the criminal cases against him.
>>
>> There is no evidence for either claim.
>
> But his cult will slurp it up.
>
>> Other Lies
>>
>> Trump also falsely said the Central Park Five “pled guilty” and “killed a
>> person,” both of which are not true. They pleaded not guilty but served
>> years in prison after they were falsely accused of the brutal sexual attack
>> on a jogger, before they were exonerated years later. Trump took out full-
>> page ads in the city’s newspapers against the five teenagers, suggesting
>> they be put to death.
>
> Like many in his cult, he will attack poor people of color. Easy to predict.
>>
>> He said former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi “was responsible” for the
>> Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol because “she didn’t do her job.” Trump
>> was indicted for conspiracy to subvert democracy for his role in the deadly
>> insurrection, the day he invited unruly supporters to come to Washington
>> and “fight like hell” to prevent the certification of Joe Biden’s electoral
>> victory.
>
> Jon Stewart covers some of this well.
>>
>> He also wasted no opportunity to lie about his opponent on the debate
>> stage, employing a familiar attack about her previous presidential bid.
>> “When she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed,” he said.
>>
>> In fact, more than a dozen candidates dropped out of the crowded Democratic
>> primary field before Harris in 2019, including several governors, New York
>> Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke.
>
> He is a nonstop liar... like many of his cult supporters.
>
he's trying to be a carroll

On Sep 14, 2024 at 10:36:54 AM MST, "%" wrote
<dQSdnd4ZKK8gVHj7nZ2dnZfqnPgAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> Snit wrote:
>> On Sep 13, 2024 at 8:46:27 PM MST, ""."" wrote
>> <vc30uj$1991s$10@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> Trump wasn't allowed to tell all his lies that night so he ended up looking
>>> like a demented old fool gibber jabbering away in some back alley.
>>
>> Looked like and IS.
>>>
>>> During Tuesday night's presidential debate, Donald Trump made at least 30
>>> false claims—and he got away with most of them, in spite of the ABC News
>>> anchors' robust fact-checking of the president in real time.
>>>
>>> The moderators stepped in four times to correct the record on the former
>>> president’s more outlandish claims during his wild showdown with Kamala
>>> Harris, including his assertion that illegal immigrants are eating pets and
>>> that Democrats support killing babies after they are born. They also
>>> flagged his claim that “crime is through the roof,” pointing out data
>>> showing violent crime has fallen.
>>
>> They should have a team of fact checkers who call the candidates out in real
>> time. Flash a big red light when they are lying.
>>>
>>> Trump spent much of Wednesday ranting and raving against ABC News on his
>>> social media platform Truth Social, posting in rapid-fire succession links
>>> from far-right news sources siding with the former president, who said he
>>> got a “rigged deal” from the network. He told Fox News the moderators were
>>> “correcting everything” he said while letting Harris off scot-free. Why?
>>> “Because they’re dishonest," he said.
>>
>> They are not obligated to pretend the two candidates are equally insane.
>>>
>>> But the moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, didn’t fact-check Trump on
>>> everything. In fact, many of his other lies went unchecked. Here’s what
>>> slipped by.
>>> Immigration
>>>
>>> Trump repeated one of his favorite false claims about dangerous illegal
>>> immigrants flooding the Southern border. “We have millions of people
>>> pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions
>>> and insane asylums,” he said, adding that “21 million people” were pouring
>>> in.
>>>
>>> In reality, there have been about 10 million encounters with migrants at
>>> the border since Joe Biden took office. Though there’s no publicly
>>> available data about prison time or residents of mental institutions, of
>>> the 1.4 million migrants apprehended at the border this year, Border Patrol
>>> has found only about 1 percent have criminal convictions.
>>
>> Immigrants have a lower rate of violent crime than do citizens.
>>
>>> The Economy
>>>
>>> Trump lied about the state of the economy during his own presidency and Joe
>>> Biden’s.
>>>
>>> “I had no inflation, virtually no inflation,” he said. “They had the
>>> highest inflation, perhaps in the history of our country.”
>>>
>>> Though inflation fell at the end of Trump’s term, the cumulative rate over
>>> the course of his presidency was about 7.8 percent, according to CNN. And
>>> though inflation has been much higher since Biden took office, it has
>>> fallen over the past two years and came nowhere close to previous historic
>>> highs seen in the 20th century.
>>
>> And that inflation is strongly tied to the pandemic, Ukraine, and
>> "greedflation" where the rich are getting richer.
>>>
>>> Trump also said the only jobs created under the Biden administration were
>>> “bounce-back” jobs that were lost to the pandemic but have now appeared
>>> again. However, employment totals passed their pre-pandemic levels in the
>>> summer of 2022, and the U.S. has added millions more jobs since then.
>>
>> Trump lies about everything... and his insane cult slurps it up.
>>
>>> Ukraine
>>>
>>> On the topic of Russia’s war against Ukraine, Trump alleged that Harris met
>>> with Vladimir Putin to try to stop him from invading Ukraine but that
>>> “three days later, he went in, and he started the war because everything
>>> they said was weak and stupid.”
>>>
>>> Harris didn’t meet with Putin, but she did meet with U.S. allies at the
>>> Munich Security Conference in the days before the war began.
>>>
>>> Trump also said the U.S. has given over $100 billion more to Ukraine than
>>> Europe has. According to a tracker from the German-based Kiel Institute,
>>> Europe had allocated and committed tens of billions more.
>>
>> Good to know. And not surprising.
>>
>>> Joe Biden
>>>
>>> At times, Trump seemed to long for his old opponent, mentioning Biden
>>> throughout the evening. In addition to the wild claim that the president
>>> “hates” Harris, his handpicked successor, the former president accused
>>> Biden of receiving “millions of dollars” from China and Ukraine and of
>>> orchestrating the criminal cases against him.
>>>
>>> There is no evidence for either claim.
>>
>> But his cult will slurp it up.
>>
>>> Other Lies
>>>
>>> Trump also falsely said the Central Park Five “pled guilty” and “killed a
>>> person,” both of which are not true. They pleaded not guilty but served
>>> years in prison after they were falsely accused of the brutal sexual attack
>>> on a jogger, before they were exonerated years later. Trump took out full-
>>> page ads in the city’s newspapers against the five teenagers, suggesting
>>> they be put to death.
>>
>> Like many in his cult, he will attack poor people of color. Easy to predict.
>>>
>>> He said former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi “was responsible” for the
>>> Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol because “she didn’t do her job.” Trump
>>> was indicted for conspiracy to subvert democracy for his role in the deadly
>>> insurrection, the day he invited unruly supporters to come to Washington
>>> and “fight like hell” to prevent the certification of Joe Biden’s electoral
>>> victory.
>>
>> Jon Stewart covers some of this well.
>>>
>>> He also wasted no opportunity to lie about his opponent on the debate
>>> stage, employing a familiar attack about her previous presidential bid.
>>> “When she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed,” he said.
>>>
>>> In fact, more than a dozen candidates dropped out of the crowded Democratic
>>> primary field before Harris in 2019, including several governors, New York
>>> Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke.
>>
>> He is a nonstop liar... like many of his cult supporters.
>>
> he's trying to be a carroll

Carroll hero-worships Trump... sees a similar person as himself.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.