'Former top Clinton adviser calls on ABC to launch internal probe into
whether debate was rigged'

<https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mark-penn-calls-abc-news-launch-internal-probe-moderators-fact-checking>

'rk Penn, a former top adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, called
Thursday for ABC to launch a formal internal investigation into its news
division's planning and execution of this week's presidential debate to
determine if there was some effort at "rigging the outcome of this
debate."

ABC News came under significant bipartisan criticism because its
moderators fact-checked some of Donald Trump's statements but not a
single pushback at any made by Kamala Harris.

Trump said Thursday that the debate was three-on-one and declined to
participate in another one before the election.

Anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis moderated the first debate between
Harris and Trump, which drew 67.1 million viewers, making it the most
watched presidential debate since 2008. But it has drawn scorn from both
Republicans and Democrats for giving the appearance of bias.

"I actually think they should do a full internal investigation, hire an
outside law firm. I don't know how much of this was planned in advance,"
Penn told the "John Solomon Reports" podcast.

"I don't know what they told the Harris campaign. I think the day after,
suspicion here is really quite high, and I think a review of all their
internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party
to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, you know,
fact-checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of
this debate. I think the situation demands nothing less than that," he
added.

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Penn, chairman of the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll, also said Harris has
done a "good job" defining Trump as the incumbent and herself as the
change candidate even though she's the sitting vice president. But he
described the mainstream media's coverage of Harris' campaign as
laughable.

"It's a 50-50, race. He's [Trump] got more obvious tools to get across
the finish line than she does and part of the thing here is that if the
referees have their finger on the scale, it's harder to, you know, break
through and overcome. And certainly, general media coverage has been
fairly laughable," he said.

Penn, president and managing partner of The Stagwell Group, suggested
the Trump campaign mail out to every voter the ACLU questionnaire that
then-Sen. Harris, D-Calif., filled out and indicated she supports gender
surgery for illegal immigrants and defunding Immigration and Customs
Enforcement.

Other publications have disclosed a questionable coziness between Harris
and Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney and who oversees ABC News. The
New York Times quoted Harris as calling their relationship
"extraordinary friends,” and disclosed that Walden and Harris are
neighbors in Brentwood, a wealthy Los Angeles enclave where Ms. Harris
and her husband also own a residence. The Times also pointed out that
The Waldens have donated money to Ms. Harris’s political campaigns since
at least 2003, when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.

PJMedia's Victoria Taft published yet more information about Harris'
connections with ABC News undisclosed by the network. ABC moderator
Linsey Davis bragged in 2021 on ABC's live coverage of the Biden
Inauguration about being sorority sisters with Harris.

Mark Penn is not the only veteran Democratic pollster and advisor to
criticize the lopsided moderation. In an editorial, Doug Schoen, an
advisor to President Clinton and N.Y.C. Mayor Mike Bloomberg, lamented
that Harris "was aided and abetted by two ABC News moderators who
seemingly felt the need to fact-check virtually everything the former
president said."'

On 9/12/2024 4:38 PM, John Smyth wrote:
> 'Former top Clinton adviser calls on ABC to launch internal probe into
> whether debate was rigged'
>
> <https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mark-penn-calls-abc-news-launch-internal-probe-moderators-fact-checking>
>
> 'rk Penn, a former top adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, called
> Thursday for ABC to launch a formal internal investigation into its news
> division's planning and execution of this week's presidential debate to
> determine if there was some effort at "rigging the outcome of this
> debate."
>
> ABC News came under significant bipartisan criticism because its
> moderators fact-checked some of Donald Trump's statements but not a
> single pushback at any made by Kamala Harris.
>
> Trump said Thursday that the debate was three-on-one and declined to
> participate in another one before the election.
>
> Anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis moderated the first debate between
> Harris and Trump, which drew 67.1 million viewers, making it the most
> watched presidential debate since 2008. But it has drawn scorn from both
> Republicans and Democrats for giving the appearance of bias.
>
> "I actually think they should do a full internal investigation, hire an
> outside law firm. I don't know how much of this was planned in advance,"
> Penn told the "John Solomon Reports" podcast.
>
> "I don't know what they told the Harris campaign. I think the day after,
> suspicion here is really quite high, and I think a review of all their
> internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party
> to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, you know,
> fact-checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of
> this debate. I think the situation demands nothing less than that," he
> added.
>
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> first debate
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> Penn, chairman of the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll, also said Harris has
> done a "good job" defining Trump as the incumbent and herself as the
> change candidate even though she's the sitting vice president. But he
> described the mainstream media's coverage of Harris' campaign as
> laughable.
>
> "It's a 50-50, race. He's [Trump] got more obvious tools to get across
> the finish line than she does and part of the thing here is that if the
> referees have their finger on the scale, it's harder to, you know, break
> through and overcome. And certainly, general media coverage has been
> fairly laughable," he said.
>
> Penn, president and managing partner of The Stagwell Group, suggested
> the Trump campaign mail out to every voter the ACLU questionnaire that
> then-Sen. Harris, D-Calif., filled out and indicated she supports gender
> surgery for illegal immigrants and defunding Immigration and Customs
> Enforcement.
>
> Other publications have disclosed a questionable coziness between Harris
> and Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney and who oversees ABC News. The
> New York Times quoted Harris as calling their relationship
> "extraordinary friends,” and disclosed that Walden and Harris are
> neighbors in Brentwood, a wealthy Los Angeles enclave where Ms. Harris
> and her husband also own a residence. The Times also pointed out that
> The Waldens have donated money to Ms. Harris’s political campaigns since
> at least 2003, when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.
>
> PJMedia's Victoria Taft published yet more information about Harris'
> connections with ABC News undisclosed by the network. ABC moderator
> Linsey Davis bragged in 2021 on ABC's live coverage of the Biden
> Inauguration about being sorority sisters with Harris.
>
> Mark Penn is not the only veteran Democratic pollster and advisor to
> criticize the lopsided moderation. In an editorial, Doug Schoen, an
> advisor to President Clinton and N.Y.C. Mayor Mike Bloomberg, lamented
> that Harris "was aided and abetted by two ABC News moderators who
> seemingly felt the need to fact-check virtually everything the former
> president said."'

Of course it was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
Disney. They hate Trump.

On 2024-09-13, James Cook <jamescook@x.com> wrote:
> On 9/12/2024 4:38 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>> 'Former top Clinton adviser calls on ABC to launch internal probe into
>> whether debate was rigged'
>>
>> <https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mark-penn-calls-abc-news-launch-internal-probe-moderators-fact-checking>
>>
>> 'rk Penn, a former top adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, called
>> Thursday for ABC to launch a formal internal investigation into its news
>> division's planning and execution of this week's presidential debate to
>> determine if there was some effort at "rigging the outcome of this
>> debate."
>>
>> ABC News came under significant bipartisan criticism because its
>> moderators fact-checked some of Donald Trump's statements but not a
>> single pushback at any made by Kamala Harris.
>>
>> Trump said Thursday that the debate was three-on-one and declined to
>> participate in another one before the election.
>>
>> Anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis moderated the first debate between
>> Harris and Trump, which drew 67.1 million viewers, making it the most
>> watched presidential debate since 2008. But it has drawn scorn from both
>> Republicans and Democrats for giving the appearance of bias.
>>
>> "I actually think they should do a full internal investigation, hire an
>> outside law firm. I don't know how much of this was planned in advance,"
>> Penn told the "John Solomon Reports" podcast.
>>
>> "I don't know what they told the Harris campaign. I think the day after,
>> suspicion here is really quite high, and I think a review of all their
>> internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party
>> to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, you know,
>> fact-checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of
>> this debate. I think the situation demands nothing less than that," he
>> added.
>>
>> Cover Image
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>> race had ABC moderated the first debateEx-Hillary Clinton strategist
>> Penn says Biden might be still be in the race had ABC moderated the
>> first debate
>> Share
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Penn, chairman of the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll, also said Harris has
>> done a "good job" defining Trump as the incumbent and herself as the
>> change candidate even though she's the sitting vice president. But he
>> described the mainstream media's coverage of Harris' campaign as
>> laughable.
>>
>> "It's a 50-50, race. He's [Trump] got more obvious tools to get across
>> the finish line than she does and part of the thing here is that if the
>> referees have their finger on the scale, it's harder to, you know, break
>> through and overcome. And certainly, general media coverage has been
>> fairly laughable," he said.
>>
>> Penn, president and managing partner of The Stagwell Group, suggested
>> the Trump campaign mail out to every voter the ACLU questionnaire that
>> then-Sen. Harris, D-Calif., filled out and indicated she supports gender
>> surgery for illegal immigrants and defunding Immigration and Customs
>> Enforcement.
>>
>> Other publications have disclosed a questionable coziness between Harris
>> and Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney and who oversees ABC News. The
>> New York Times quoted Harris as calling their relationship
>> "extraordinary friends,” and disclosed that Walden and Harris are
>> neighbors in Brentwood, a wealthy Los Angeles enclave where Ms. Harris
>> and her husband also own a residence. The Times also pointed out that
>> The Waldens have donated money to Ms. Harris’s political campaigns since
>> at least 2003, when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.
>>
>> PJMedia's Victoria Taft published yet more information about Harris'
>> connections with ABC News undisclosed by the network. ABC moderator
>> Linsey Davis bragged in 2021 on ABC's live coverage of the Biden
>> Inauguration about being sorority sisters with Harris.
>>
>> Mark Penn is not the only veteran Democratic pollster and advisor to
>> criticize the lopsided moderation. In an editorial, Doug Schoen, an
>> advisor to President Clinton and N.Y.C. Mayor Mike Bloomberg, lamented
>> that Harris "was aided and abetted by two ABC News moderators who
>> seemingly felt the need to fact-check virtually everything the former
>> president said."'
>
> Of course it was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
> Disney. They hate Trump.

And now it's being reported that one of the moderators, Linsey Davis and Kamala Harris are sorority
sisters from the same sorority.

<https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-news/abc-debate-moderator-linsey-davis-was-a-member-of-the-same-
storied-sorority-as-kamala-harris/>

This entire debate was a scam that stinks to high heaven.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris Word Salad Special Of The Day
Served Complete With Venn Diagram Dressing

On 9/12/2024 5:25 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> *Proper alt.fan.rush-limbaugh netiquette*
> Always remove these bullshit newsgroups from your reply:
> can.politics, alt.politics.trump, alt.computer.workshop,
> comp.os.linux.advocacy, rec.arts.tv
>
> On 9/12/2024 5:15 PM, James Cook, shitbag ordinaire, lied:
>> On 9/12/2024 4:38 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>>> 'Former top Clinton adviser calls on ABC to launch internal probe into
>>> whether debate was rigged'
>>>
>>> <https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mark-penn-calls-abc-news-launch-internal-probe-moderators-fact-checking>
>>>
>>> 'rk Penn, a former top adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, called
>>> Thursday for ABC to launch a formal internal investigation into its news
>>> division's planning and execution of this week's presidential debate to
>>> determine if there was some effort at "rigging the outcome of this
>>> debate."
>>>
>>> ABC News came under significant bipartisan criticism because its
>>> moderators fact-checked some of Donald Trump's statements but not a
>>> single pushback at any made by Kamala Harris.
>>>
>>> Trump said Thursday that the debate was three-on-one and declined to
>>> participate in another one before the election.
>>>
>>> Anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis moderated the first debate between
>>> Harris and Trump, which drew 67.1 million viewers, making it the most
>>> watched presidential debate since 2008. But it has drawn scorn from both
>>> Republicans and Democrats for giving the appearance of bias.
>>>
>>> "I actually think they should do a full internal investigation, hire an
>>> outside law firm. I don't know how much of this was planned in advance,"
>>> Penn told the "John Solomon Reports" podcast.
>>>
>>> "I don't know what they told the Harris campaign. I think the day after,
>>> suspicion here is really quite high, and I think a review of all their
>>> internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party
>>> to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, you know,
>>> fact-checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of
>>> this debate. I think the situation demands nothing less than that," he
>>> added.
>>>
>>> Cover Image
>>> John Solomon Reports
>>> Ex-Hillary Clinton strategist Penn says Biden might be still be in the
>>> race had ABC moderated the first debateEx-Hillary Clinton strategist
>>> Penn says Biden might be still be in the race had ABC moderated the
>>> first debate
>>> Share
>>>   Subscribe
>>>   Amazon Music
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>>>   Stitcher
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>>> 00:00 / 52:28
>>> Listen on
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>>> Penn, chairman of the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll, also said Harris has
>>> done a "good job" defining Trump as the incumbent and herself as the
>>> change candidate even though she's the sitting vice president. But he
>>> described the mainstream media's coverage of Harris' campaign as
>>> laughable.
>>>
>>> "It's a 50-50, race. He's [Trump] got more obvious tools to get across
>>> the finish line than she does and part of the thing here is that if the
>>> referees have their finger on the scale, it's harder to, you know, break
>>> through and overcome. And certainly, general media coverage has been
>>> fairly laughable," he said.
>>>
>>> Penn, president and managing partner of The Stagwell Group, suggested
>>> the Trump campaign mail out to every voter the ACLU questionnaire that
>>> then-Sen. Harris, D-Calif., filled out and indicated she supports gender
>>> surgery for illegal immigrants and defunding Immigration and Customs
>>> Enforcement.
>>>
>>> Other publications have disclosed a questionable coziness between Harris
>>> and Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney and who oversees ABC News. The
>>> New York Times quoted Harris as calling their relationship
>>> "extraordinary friends,” and disclosed that Walden and Harris are
>>> neighbors in Brentwood, a wealthy Los Angeles enclave where Ms. Harris
>>> and her husband also own a residence. The Times also pointed out that
>>> The Waldens have donated money to Ms. Harris’s political campaigns since
>>> at least 2003, when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.
>>>
>>> PJMedia's Victoria Taft published yet more information about Harris'
>>> connections with ABC News undisclosed by the network. ABC moderator
>>> Linsey Davis bragged in 2021 on ABC's live coverage of the Biden
>>> Inauguration about being sorority sisters with Harris.
>>>
>>> Mark Penn is not the only veteran Democratic pollster and advisor to
>>> criticize the lopsided moderation. In an editorial, Doug Schoen, an
>>> advisor to President Clinton and N.Y.C. Mayor Mike Bloomberg, lamented
>>> that Harris "was aided and abetted by two ABC News moderators who
>>> seemingly felt the need to fact-check virtually everything the former
>>> president said."'
>>
>> Of course it was rigged.
>
> No.

Absolutely was rigged.

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>On 2024-09-13, James Cook <jamescook@x.com> wrote:
>>
>> Of course it [the Harris/Trump debate] was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
>> Disney. They hate Trump.
>
>And now it's being reported that one of the moderators, Linsey Davis and Kamala Harris are sorority
>sisters from the same sorority.
>
><https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-news/abc-debate-moderator-linsey-davis-was-a-member-of-the-same-
>storied-sorority-as-kamala-harris/>
>
>This entire debate was a scam that stinks to high heaven.

Are you serious? Trump tried to blame DC Mayor Bowser and Pelosi for
January 6th, FFS. Talk about "fact checking", Jesus, that is outright
crazy, he denies his own responsibility for his supporters breaking
into the Capitol. You're kidding yourself, to think that there's some
conspiracy against DJT, he's the one conspiring to be our dictator.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

In article <vc00m3$gbqj$1@dont-email.me>,
pothead@snakebite.com says...
>
> On 2024-09-13, James Cook <jamescook@x.com> wrote:
> > On 9/12/2024 4:38 PM, John Smyth wrote:
> >> 'Former top Clinton adviser calls on ABC to launch internal probe into
> >> whether debate was rigged'
> >>
> >> <https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mark-penn-calls-abc-news-launch-internal-probe-moderators-fact-checking>
> >>
> >> 'rk Penn, a former top adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, called
> >> Thursday for ABC to launch a formal internal investigation into its news
> >> division's planning and execution of this week's presidential debate to
> >> determine if there was some effort at "rigging the outcome of this
> >> debate."
> >>
> >> ABC News came under significant bipartisan criticism because its
> >> moderators fact-checked some of Donald Trump's statements but not a
> >> single pushback at any made by Kamala Harris.
> >>
> >> Trump said Thursday that the debate was three-on-one and declined to
> >> participate in another one before the election.
> >>
> >> Anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis moderated the first debate between
> >> Harris and Trump, which drew 67.1 million viewers, making it the most
> >> watched presidential debate since 2008. But it has drawn scorn from both
> >> Republicans and Democrats for giving the appearance of bias.
> >>
> >> "I actually think they should do a full internal investigation, hire an
> >> outside law firm. I don't know how much of this was planned in advance,"
> >> Penn told the "John Solomon Reports" podcast.
> >>
> >> "I don't know what they told the Harris campaign. I think the day after,
> >> suspicion here is really quite high, and I think a review of all their
> >> internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party
> >> to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, you know,
> >> fact-checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of
> >> this debate. I think the situation demands nothing less than that," he
> >> added.
> >>
> >> Cover Image
> >> John Solomon Reports
> >> Ex-Hillary Clinton strategist Penn says Biden might be still be in the
> >> race had ABC moderated the first debateEx-Hillary Clinton strategist
> >> Penn says Biden might be still be in the race had ABC moderated the
> >> first debate
> >> Share
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subscribe
> >> Amazon Music
> >> Apple Podcasts
> >> Stitcher
> >> RSS
> >> Download Description
> >> 00:00 / 52:28
> >> Listen on
> >> Listen on Apple Podcast
> >> Listen on Stitcher Privacy Policy
> >> Penn, chairman of the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll, also said Harris has
> >> done a "good job" defining Trump as the incumbent and herself as the
> >> change candidate even though she's the sitting vice president. But he
> >> described the mainstream media's coverage of Harris' campaign as
> >> laughable.
> >>
> >> "It's a 50-50, race. He's [Trump] got more obvious tools to get across
> >> the finish line than she does and part of the thing here is that if the
> >> referees have their finger on the scale, it's harder to, you know, break
> >> through and overcome. And certainly, general media coverage has been
> >> fairly laughable," he said.
> >>
> >> Penn, president and managing partner of The Stagwell Group, suggested
> >> the Trump campaign mail out to every voter the ACLU questionnaire that
> >> then-Sen. Harris, D-Calif., filled out and indicated she supports gender
> >> surgery for illegal immigrants and defunding Immigration and Customs
> >> Enforcement.
> >>
> >> Other publications have disclosed a questionable coziness between Harris
> >> and Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney and who oversees ABC News. The
> >> New York Times quoted Harris as calling their relationship
> >> "extraordinary friends,? and disclosed that Walden and Harris are
> >> neighbors in Brentwood, a wealthy Los Angeles enclave where Ms. Harris
> >> and her husband also own a residence. The Times also pointed out that
> >> The Waldens have donated money to Ms. Harris?s political campaigns since
> >> at least 2003, when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.
> >>
> >> PJMedia's Victoria Taft published yet more information about Harris'
> >> connections with ABC News undisclosed by the network. ABC moderator
> >> Linsey Davis bragged in 2021 on ABC's live coverage of the Biden
> >> Inauguration about being sorority sisters with Harris.
> >>
> >> Mark Penn is not the only veteran Democratic pollster and advisor to
> >> criticize the lopsided moderation. In an editorial, Doug Schoen, an
> >> advisor to President Clinton and N.Y.C. Mayor Mike Bloomberg, lamented
> >> that Harris "was aided and abetted by two ABC News moderators who
> >> seemingly felt the need to fact-check virtually everything the former
> >> president said."'
> >
> > Of course it was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
> > Disney. They hate Trump.
>
> And now it's being reported that one of the moderators, Linsey Davis and Kamala Harris are sorority
> sisters from the same sorority.
>
> <https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-news/abc-debate-moderator-linsey-davis-was-a-member-of-the-same-
> storied-sorority-as-kamala-harris/>
>
> This entire debate was a scam that stinks to high heaven.

What's the matter poor baby?
Are you upset that orange man got got destroyed by a woman
who is far more intelligent than he is?
Also The NY Post is a right wing rag that prints articles
of dubious accuracy. You shouldn't pollute your mind with
that garbage.

--
Signature provided on request.

In article <ql17ejl4jcth8kfmj2q5atafmbrtc5epre@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
> >On 2024-09-13, James Cook <jamescook@x.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Of course it [the Harris/Trump debate] was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
> >> Disney. They hate Trump.
> >
> >And now it's being reported that one of the moderators, Linsey Davis and Kamala Harris are sorority
> >sisters from the same sorority.
> >
> ><https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-news/abc-debate-moderator-linsey-davis-was-a-member-of-the-same-
> >storied-sorority-as-kamala-harris/>
> >
> >This entire debate was a scam that stinks to high heaven.
>
>
> Are you serious? Trump tried to blame DC Mayor Bowser and Pelosi for
> January 6th, FFS. Talk about "fact checking", Jesus, that is outright
> crazy, he denies his own responsibility for his supporters breaking
> into the Capitol. You're kidding yourself, to think that there's some
> conspiracy against DJT, he's the one conspiring to be our dictator.

Trumptards are compulsive liars. They have been
brainwashed by their leader and will believe anything he
tells them. There is no hope for them.

--
Signature provided on request.

unknown <novalidemail@toss.net> wrote:
>In article <vc00m3$gbqj$1@dont-email.me>,
>pothead@snakebite.com says...
>>
>> And now it's being reported that one of the moderators [of the Harris/Trump debate], Linsey Davis and Kamala Harris are sorority
>> sisters from the same sorority.
>>
>> <https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-news/abc-debate-moderator-linsey-davis-was-a-member-of-the-same-
>> storied-sorority-as-kamala-harris/>
>>
>> This entire debate was a scam that stinks to high heaven.
>
>What's the matter poor baby?
>Are you upset that orange man got got destroyed by a woman
>who is far more intelligent than he is?
>Also The NY Post is a right wing rag that prints articles
>of dubious accuracy. You shouldn't pollute your mind with
>that garbage.

Pothead simply doesn't think as objectively, as she believes herself
to, it's slanted against Democrats and the left, seeking confirmation
biases, which right-wing media is not lacking.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

unknown <novalidemail@toss.net> wrote:
>In article <ql17ejl4jcth8kfmj2q5atafmbrtc5epre@4ax.com>,
>joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>> >On 2024-09-13, James Cook <jamescook@x.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Of course it [the Harris/Trump debate] was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
>> >> Disney. They hate Trump.
>> >
>> >And now it's being reported that one of the moderators, Linsey Davis and Kamala Harris are sorority
>> >sisters from the same sorority.
>> >
>> ><https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-news/abc-debate-moderator-linsey-davis-was-a-member-of-the-same-
>> >storied-sorority-as-kamala-harris/>
>> >
>> >This entire debate was a scam that stinks to high heaven.
>>
>> Are you serious? Trump tried to blame DC Mayor Bowser and Pelosi for
>> January 6th, FFS. Talk about "fact checking", Jesus, that is outright
>> crazy, he denies his own responsibility for his supporters breaking
>> into the Capitol. You're kidding yourself, to think that there's some
>> conspiracy against DJT, he's the one conspiring to be our dictator.
>
>Trumptards are compulsive liars. They have been
>brainwashed by their leader and will believe anything he
>tells them. There is no hope for them.

He doesn't even have to brainwash them, he can literally think for
them, voting for himself through them. It's a hell of a thing. And
yet, it hasn't made him God, he never won the popular vote, and isn't
going to this time either. Kamala will win that for certain, I think,
but that of course isn't what determines the winner of the electoral
college, so I am not calling this thing, I don't pretend to know the
outcome.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:15:42 -0700, James Cook <jamescook@x.com> wrote:

>Of course it was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
>Disney. They hate Trump.

Everybody with a functioning brain either hates, distrusts, laughs at him or
holds him in cold contempt. Some, more than one of these things.

Trump and Vance are rooting against America
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AQl5s_NXHe0>

--
Trump and the DoJ

https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2024/01/18

GO TRUMP! Go farther! FARther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

--
The difference between Jesus and Trump is, Jesus took his beating like
a man.

#nevertrump

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 00:23:31 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>This entire debate was a scam that stinks to high heaven.

Says the sour grapes Russky.

Trump forgets who the Democratic candidate is yet again
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1yKuu9xIKSc>

--
Trump budget

https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2024/05/12

GO TRUMP! Farther! FARther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:52:57 -0400, unknown <novalidemail@toss.net> wrote:

>Trumptards are compulsive liars. They have been
>brainwashed by their leader and will believe anything he
>tells them. There is no hope for them.

If they'll believe Haitian refugees are eating cats, dogs and geese and ducks
from a city park, yes, they'll believe anything. And if they don't believe that
and still vote for him, they're just as sociopathic as he is.

Forty of four
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4vIYbJd4Oyg>

--
Trump Billboard in Georgia:
<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1CVQMVkA8nODw?format=jpg&name=small>

Modern Christian: Someone who thinks God would choose as his Messenger a
serial adulterer with 5 children by 3 different baby-mommas all of whom he
cheated on and a history of scams, bankruptcies, phony charities, hookups
with porn stars and 30,000 documented lies.
--- Mitchell Holman

Dead Nazi Series: What holocaust? https://tinyurl.com/yb3j3d5f
--
The difference between Jesus and Trump is, Jesus took his beating like
a man.

#nevertrump

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 21:09:15 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>He doesn't even have to brainwash them, he can literally think for
>them, voting for himself through them. It's a hell of a thing. And
>yet, it hasn't made him God, he never won the popular vote, and isn't
>going to this time either. Kamala will win that for certain, I think,
>but that of course isn't what determines the winner of the electoral
>college, so I am not calling this thing, I don't pretend to know the
>outcome.

"I don't care about you. I just want your vote."

Just when you think Trump has said the most insane thing he could say ...
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hsCv_JU-uVU>

--
"Trump has erased the assumption that credibility is a nice thing to have."
- David Brooks

--
The difference between Jesus and Trump is, Jesus took his beating like
a man.

#nevertrump

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:56:40 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Pothead simply doesn't think as objectively, as she believes herself
>to, it's slanted against Democrats and the left, seeking confirmation
>biases, which right-wing media is not lacking.

Her cunt throbs with desire for what she imagines is Trump's long, thick penis.

It never occurs to her to wonder why he has to PAY for sex.

Promise / Failure
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ebpxhLxjyJE>

--

Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime is going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:29:41 -0700, James Cook <jamescook@x.com> wrote:

>>> Of course it was rigged.
>>
>> No.
>
>Absolutely was rigged.

Trump says he won. Does that mean he rigged the debate in his favor?

"We got calls 88-12 ... 93-7"

Trump claims Harris doesn't know anything about the economy.
Harris' dad was an economics professor at Stamford

--
"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets
involved with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with
him because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre."
- Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Pothead simply doesn't think as objectively, as she believes herself
>>to, it's slanted against Democrats and the left, seeking confirmation
>>biases, which right-wing media is not lacking.
>
>Her cunt throbs with desire for what she imagines is Trump's long, thick penis.
>
>It never occurs to her to wonder why he has to PAY for sex.

I hate to go this low, because I don't really hate Trump as such, he's
someone I don't "admire" obviously, but I still kind of dig him as a
person in a way - but, there *is* a nude photo of him, taken by a
Secret Service agent when he was president, being hosed down after
some toxic thing or whatever. He is not well-endowed.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-09-13, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Pothead simply doesn't think as objectively, as she believes herself
>>>to, it's slanted against Democrats and the left, seeking confirmation
>>>biases, which right-wing media is not lacking.
>>
>>Her cunt throbs with desire for what she imagines is Trump's long, thick penis.
>>
>>It never occurs to her to wonder why he has to PAY for sex.
>
>
> I hate to go this low, because I don't really hate Trump as such, he's
> someone I don't "admire" obviously, but I still kind of dig him as a
> person in a way - but, there *is* a nude photo of him, taken by a
> Secret Service agent when he was president, being hosed down after
> some toxic thing or whatever. He is not well-endowed.
>
And when Joe Biden was VP he used to take swims in the WH pool while fully naked and while female
SS were around.
Your point?

--
Charlie Glock
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
- Thomas Jefferson 1776

Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>> I hate to go this low, because I don't really hate Trump as such, he's
>> someone I don't "admire" obviously, but I still kind of dig him as a
>> person in a way - but, there *is* a nude photo of him, taken by a
>> Secret Service agent when he was president, being hosed down after
>> some toxic thing or whatever. He is not well-endowed.
>>
>And when Joe Biden was VP he used to take swims in the WH pool while fully naked and while female
>SS were around.
>Your point?

Just that he has a small dick, it's not complicated.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-09-13, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>
>>> I hate to go this low, because I don't really hate Trump as such, he's
>>> someone I don't "admire" obviously, but I still kind of dig him as a
>>> person in a way - but, there *is* a nude photo of him, taken by a
>>> Secret Service agent when he was president, being hosed down after
>>> some toxic thing or whatever. He is not well-endowed.
>>>
>>And when Joe Biden was VP he used to take swims in the WH pool while fully naked and while female
>>SS were around.
>>Your point?
>
>
> Just that he has a small dick, it's not complicated.

Why is a small dick a problem?
Humor me.

--
Charlie Glock
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
- Thomas Jefferson 1776

On 2024-09-13, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
> On 2024-09-13, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I hate to go this low, because I don't really hate Trump as such, he's
>>>> someone I don't "admire" obviously, but I still kind of dig him as a
>>>> person in a way - but, there *is* a nude photo of him, taken by a
>>>> Secret Service agent when he was president, being hosed down after
>>>> some toxic thing or whatever. He is not well-endowed.
>>>>
>>>And when Joe Biden was VP he used to take swims in the WH pool while fully naked and while female
>>>SS were around.
>>>Your point?
>>
>>
>> Just that he has a small dick, it's not complicated.
>
> Why is a small dick a problem?
> Humor me.
It's not.
Loser men with low self esteem are the 'problem'. If you want to refer to it like that.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris Word Salad Special Of The Day
Served Complete With Venn Diagram Dressing

Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>>>> I hate to go this low, because I don't really hate Trump as such, he's
>>>> someone I don't "admire" obviously, but I still kind of dig him as a
>>>> person in a way - but, there *is* a nude photo of him, taken by a
>>>> Secret Service agent when he was president, being hosed down after
>>>> some toxic thing or whatever. He is not well-endowed.
>>>>
>>>And when Joe Biden was VP he used to take swims in the WH pool while fully naked and while female
>>>SS were around.
>>>Your point?
>>
>> Just that he has a small dick, it's not complicated.
>
>Why is a small dick a problem?
>Humor me.

It's not a problem, it's just something that is what it is.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:15:13 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Pothead simply doesn't think as objectively, as she believes herself
>>>to, it's slanted against Democrats and the left, seeking confirmation
>>>biases, which right-wing media is not lacking.
>>
>>Her cunt throbs with desire for what she imagines is Trump's long, thick penis.
>>
>>It never occurs to her to wonder why he has to PAY for sex.
>
>
>I hate to go this low, because I don't really hate Trump as such, he's
>someone I don't "admire" obviously, but I still kind of dig him as a
>person in a way - but, there *is* a nude photo of him, taken by a
>Secret Service agent when he was president, being hosed down after
>some toxic thing or whatever. He is not well-endowed.

In 2016 when he was proud of his statue at Madame Tussaud's some enterprising
reporter measured his hands. They really are small.

Viagra risk
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZOaCov0Uxa4>

--
The difference between Jesus and Trump is, Jesus took his beating like
a man.

#nevertrump

>'Former top Clinton adviser calls on ABC to launch internal probe into
>whether debate was rigged'
>

That's a typical Democrat. Trump received the humiliation of his life in
front of 80 million voters, Harris wiped the floor with him and now they want
to rub his nose in her shit.

Trump's already admitted defeat so it's time to move on. He was right to
avoid her in a future debate because she really strapped one on and gave him
a buttfucking the other night.

>
>Of course it was rigged. ABC is owned by child-grooming pedo-cult
>Disney. They hate Trump.
>

They really made Trump look like a fool in front of all those millions of
voters. They made it look like he was spouting gibberish and lying all the
time. What a humiliation. They're even laughing at Trump over in Russia.
They think he's a fucking imbecile.

Maybe Ann Coulter was right.

Ann Coulter: Best Thing Trump Could Do for America Is �Die�

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ann-coulter-best-thing-trump-172944605.html

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:38:53 -0400, John Smyth
<smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>'Former top Clinton adviser calls on ABC to launch internal probe into
>whether debate was rigged'
>
><https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mark-penn-calls-abc-news-launch-internal-probe-moderators-fact-checking>
>
>'rk Penn, a former top adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, called
>Thursday for ABC to launch a formal internal investigation into its news
>division's planning and execution of this week's presidential debate to
>determine if there was some effort at "rigging the outcome of this
>debate."
>
>ABC News came under significant bipartisan criticism because its
>moderators fact-checked some of Donald Trump's statements but not a
>single pushback at any made by Kamala Harris.
>
>Trump said Thursday that the debate was three-on-one and declined to
>participate in another one before the election.
>
>Anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis moderated the first debate between
>Harris and Trump, which drew 67.1 million viewers, making it the most
>watched presidential debate since 2008. But it has drawn scorn from both
>Republicans and Democrats for giving the appearance of bias.
>
>"I actually think they should do a full internal investigation, hire an
>outside law firm. I don't know how much of this was planned in advance,"
>Penn told the "John Solomon Reports" podcast.
>
>"I don't know what they told the Harris campaign. I think the day after,
>suspicion here is really quite high, and I think a review of all their
>internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party
>to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, you know,
>fact-checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of
>this debate. I think the situation demands nothing less than that," he
>added.
>
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>Penn, chairman of the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll, also said Harris has
>done a "good job" defining Trump as the incumbent and herself as the
>change candidate even though she's the sitting vice president. But he
>described the mainstream media's coverage of Harris' campaign as
>laughable.
>
>"It's a 50-50, race. He's [Trump] got more obvious tools to get across
>the finish line than she does and part of the thing here is that if the
>referees have their finger on the scale, it's harder to, you know, break
>through and overcome. And certainly, general media coverage has been
>fairly laughable," he said.
>
>Penn, president and managing partner of The Stagwell Group, suggested
>the Trump campaign mail out to every voter the ACLU questionnaire that
>then-Sen. Harris, D-Calif., filled out and indicated she supports gender
>surgery for illegal immigrants and defunding Immigration and Customs
>Enforcement.
>
>Other publications have disclosed a questionable coziness between Harris
>and Dana Walden, co-chairman of Disney and who oversees ABC News. The
>New York Times quoted Harris as calling their relationship
>"extraordinary friends,” and disclosed that Walden and Harris are
>neighbors in Brentwood, a wealthy Los Angeles enclave where Ms. Harris
>and her husband also own a residence. The Times also pointed out that
>The Waldens have donated money to Ms. Harris’s political campaigns since
>at least 2003, when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.
>
>PJMedia's Victoria Taft published yet more information about Harris'
>connections with ABC News undisclosed by the network. ABC moderator
>Linsey Davis bragged in 2021 on ABC's live coverage of the Biden
>Inauguration about being sorority sisters with Harris.
>
>Mark Penn is not the only veteran Democratic pollster and advisor to
>criticize the lopsided moderation. In an editorial, Doug Schoen, an
>advisor to President Clinton and N.Y.C. Mayor Mike Bloomberg, lamented
>that Harris "was aided and abetted by two ABC News moderators who
>seemingly felt the need to fact-check virtually everything the former
>president said."'

Interesting how Lying Lee didn't post this.
I wonder why.