"pgloader is Open Source. Purchase a Moral License to support the
development of pgloader and get priority tracking for the issues that
matter to you, in the context of your project."

https://pgloader.io/licensing/

The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and $6495.

I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.

On Sun, 19 May 2024 14:25:30 -0400, DFS wrote:

> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and
> $6495.
>
> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.

It's hard to imagine who the target audience is. I hope he has a day job.

On May 19, 2024 at 2:25:30 PM EDT, "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> "pgloader is Open Source. Purchase a Moral License to support the
> development of pgloader and get priority tracking for the issues that
> matter to you, in the context of your project."
>
> https://pgloader.io/licensing/
>
>
>
> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and $6495.
>
> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.

You did not mention that the $6495 "Moral" license is MONTHLY. Sorry, that is
IMMORAL.

$7000 monthly for a utility to load csv files into a DB? Yeah man, where do I
sign up?

On 5/19/2024 6:58 PM, Tyrone wrote:
> On May 19, 2024 at 2:25:30 PM EDT, "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> "pgloader is Open Source. Purchase a Moral License to support the
>> development of pgloader and get priority tracking for the issues that
>> matter to you, in the context of your project."
>>
>> https://pgloader.io/licensing/
>>
>>
>>
>> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and $6495.
>>
>> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.
>
> You did not mention that the $6495 "Moral" license is MONTHLY.

Ho Lee Fuk!

I didn't see that. It's almost $78,000 per year.

> Sorry, that is IMMORAL.

I just blasted him in an email. I wonder if he'll try to justify it.

> $7000 monthly for a utility to load csv files into a DB? Yeah man, where do I
> sign up?

heh! Such a deal!

On 5/19/2024 5:46 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 14:25:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and
>> $6495.
>>
>> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.
>
> It's hard to imagine who the target audience is. I hope he has a day job.

He's a Postgres DBA.

He used to hang around comp.databases.postgresql and promote that
program (pgloader) incessantly, plus help out.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sun, 19 May 2024 14:25:30 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and
>> $6495.
>>
>> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.

Ah, the life of DFS. William Burroughs wrote about control addicts.
These days he might write about troll addicts.

> It's hard to imagine who the target audience is. I hope he has a day job.

https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader

--
Q: Why is Poland just like the United States?
A: In the United States you can't buy anything for zlotys and in
Poland you can't either, while in the U.S. you can get whatever
you want for dollars, just as you can in Poland.
-- being told in Poland, 1987

Tyrone wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On May 19, 2024 at 2:25:30 PM EDT, "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> "pgloader is Open Source. Purchase a Moral License to support the
>> development of pgloader and get priority tracking for the issues that
>> matter to you, in the context of your project."
>>
>> https://pgloader.io/licensing/
>>
>> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and $6495.
>>
>> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.
>
> You did not mention that the $6495 "Moral" license is MONTHLY. Sorry, that is
> IMMORAL.
>
> $7000 monthly for a utility to load csv files into a DB? Yeah man, where do I
> sign up?

https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader maybe?

Or you could just donate to Trump's legal defense funds :-D

--
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Tyrone wrote:

>You did not mention that the $6495 "Moral" license is MONTHLY. Sorry, that is
>IMMORAL.

How is it immoral, when everyone is completely free to decline the
offer, "Tyrone"?

--
"Microsoft chooses to break the law when it suits them. Does that make
them a bad corporation?" - Oliver Wrong

On 2024-05-20, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Tyrone wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On May 19, 2024 at 2:25:30 PM EDT, "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "pgloader is Open Source. Purchase a Moral License to support the
>>> development of pgloader and get priority tracking for the issues that
>>> matter to you, in the context of your project."
>>>
>>> https://pgloader.io/licensing/
>>>
>>> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and $6495.
>>>
>>> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.
>>
>> You did not mention that the $6495 "Moral" license is MONTHLY. Sorry, that is
>> IMMORAL.
>>
>> $7000 monthly for a utility to load csv files into a DB? Yeah man, where do I
>> sign up?
>
> https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader maybe?
>
> Or you could just donate to Trump's legal defense funds :-D

Ain't it just hilarious how the Democrats are using coordinated Soviet style
show trials to try to save the Zombie and Chief's perverted hide? Yeah,
that's real "democracy" in action. Be proud of your slimy party. Be very
proud. Oh, and Biden is too senile to be tried for hoarding classified
documents, don't you know. His son is paragon of virtue, there was no
illegal shenanigans in Ukraine or China, just a lot of money for the "big
guy" somehow, somewhere. (No mystery there, Biden has somehow become rich a
lifetime leach... err "public servant." The court thing is not working,
they've made Trump into a martyr. Democrat stupidity backfiring on them. I
sincerely doubt that the senile Pervert and Chief will actually run in the
general election. He's too much of a liability.

But that leaves us with Trump, so what do we really gain?

By the way, does anyone have any clue, any clue at all, what law Trump
supposedly broke in the hush trial? Have the Democrats even figured out what
they're charging him with? — or do they even have to bother seeing as this
is a Soviet-style show trial?

--
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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-05-20, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> Tyrone wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On May 19, 2024 at 2:25:30 PM EDT, "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "pgloader is Open Source. Purchase a Moral License to support the
>>>> development of pgloader and get priority tracking for the issues that
>>>> matter to you, in the context of your project."
>>>>
>>>> https://pgloader.io/licensing/
>>>>
>>>> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and $6495.
>>>>
>>>> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.
>>>
>>> You did not mention that the $6495 "Moral" license is MONTHLY. Sorry, that is
>>> IMMORAL.
>>>
>>> $7000 monthly for a utility to load csv files into a DB? Yeah man, where do I
>>> sign up?
>>
>> https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader maybe?
>>
>> Or you could just donate to Trump's legal defense funds :-D
>
> Ain't it just hilarious how the Democrats are using coordinated Soviet style
> show trials to try to save the Zombie and Chief's perverted hide?
>
> <snippage>

> But that leaves us with Trump, so what do we really gain?
>
> By the way, does anyone have any clue, any clue at all, what law Trump
> supposedly broke in the hush trial? Have the Democrats even figured out what
> they're charging him with? — or do they even have to bother seeing as this
> is a Soviet-style show trial?

You could, you know, read the indictments.

In any case, I consider this all to be Karma For Lawsuit Larry and his
lifetime of malfeasance.

Someone wrote a book about John F. Kennedy called "A Thousand Days".

When someone writes one about Trump, they should call is "Four Thousand
Lawsuits". :-D

--
Excellent day to have a rotten day.

On 2024-05-20, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-05-20, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>> Tyrone wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On May 19, 2024 at 2:25:30 PM EDT, "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "pgloader is Open Source. Purchase a Moral License to support the
>>>>> development of pgloader and get priority tracking for the issues that
>>>>> matter to you, in the context of your project."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://pgloader.io/licensing/
>>>>>
>>>>> The 'Moral Licenses' for his small Lisp program cost $1299, $2850 and $6495.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll write my own Python and stay immoral and fed.
>>>>
>>>> You did not mention that the $6495 "Moral" license is MONTHLY. Sorry, that is
>>>> IMMORAL.
>>>>
>>>> $7000 monthly for a utility to load csv files into a DB? Yeah man, where do I
>>>> sign up?
>>>
>>> https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader maybe?
>>>
>>> Or you could just donate to Trump's legal defense funds :-D
>>
>> Ain't it just hilarious how the Democrats are using coordinated Soviet style
>> show trials to try to save the Zombie and Chief's perverted hide?
>>
>> <snippage>
>
>> But that leaves us with Trump, so what do we really gain?
>>
>> By the way, does anyone have any clue, any clue at all, what law Trump
>> supposedly broke in the hush trial? Have the Democrats even figured out what
>> they're charging him with? — or do they even have to bother seeing as this
>> is a Soviet-style show trial?
>
> You could, you know, read the indictments.

No I wouldn't. Perhaps you can enlighten me. No one seems to know what the
crime is supposed to be.

> In any case, I consider this all to be Karma For Lawsuit Larry and his
> lifetime of malfeasance.
>
> Someone wrote a book about John F. Kennedy called "A Thousand Days".
>
> When someone writes one about Trump, they should call is "Four Thousand
> Lawsuits". :-D

Four thousand Soviet-style show trials is what you're trying to say. So far
they haven't exactly been going that well for the slimeballs liars in the
Democrat Gestapo, have they? Even CNN is starting admit that it's helping
Trump rather than harming him in the polls.

Classified document case. Apparent evidence tampering. Currently on hold.

Election "interference" case. Fani Willis slimeball corruption explosion.
Currently on hold.

Hush money trial. No one knows what the charge is. Star witness, a convicted
perjurer and admitted serial liar, caught in yet another major lie.

Non-crime, "criminal" bank civil trial (no victims) currently under appeal.

Stalin wouldn't be happy with the ineptness of his spiritual "children."

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Mon, 20 May 2024 07:59:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>> It's hard to imagine who the target audience is. I hope he has a day
>> job.
>
> https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader

Even stranger... The Postgres license is another one of those 'don't call
UC is you have problems' licenses.

If you have a lot of data and no clue what you're doing the $1000 is
reasonable. We've done data conversion for clients moving to a new vendor
and it doesn't come cheap. The monthly program sounds more like wishful
thinking.

On Mon, 20 May 2024 08:00:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader maybe?
>
> Or you could just donate to Trump's legal defense funds :-D

I wonder if Cohen will donate the money he admitted he stole from Trump?
Nah, forget I said that.

On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:14:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> You could, you know, read the indictments.

They're creative, I'll say that for them.

rbowman wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>> You could, you know, read the indictments.
>
>They're creative, I'll say that for them.

The "crime" alleges "election interference", right? Such bullshit.

The Demons have ushered-in a new era in American politics. go after
adversaries with every trumped-up (no pun intended) charge they can
think of.

--
'So all those years of claims from advocates how OEM's are "forced"
and "required" to ship Windows because of secret backroom deals are
total BS?' - trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", upon hearing that a Linux
PC was purchased.

On Mon, 20 May 2024 17:20:39 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>rbowman wrote:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> You could, you know, read the indictments.
>>
>>They're creative, I'll say that for them.
>
>The "crime" alleges "election interference", right? Such bullshit.
>
>The Demons have ushered-in a new era in American politics. go after
>adversaries with every trumped-up (no pun intended) charge they can
>think of.

I have a lot of tolerance for complete bullshit but even I can't stand
following American politics anymore. I mostly stay out of reading the
news as a result.

On Mon, 20 May 2024 17:20:39 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> The "crime" alleges "election interference", right? Such bullshit.

That's the Georgia indictment. The current dog and pony show involving a
whore and a convicted serial perjurer and self-admitted thief is 34 counts
of falsifying business records in the first degree:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-34-felony-counts-charges-
new-york-read/

It hinges on 'with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime
and aid and conceal the commission thereof,' with the 'other crime' being
unspecified but supposedly an attempt to interfere in the 2016 election.

The 34 counts are cut/paste/edit check number. I'm no lawyer but at the
time there were questions of whether Bragg was overreaching and didn't
have the standing to prosecute an alleged federal crime. But, as they say,
the grand jury indicted a ham sandwich. Correction -- being NYC it would
be a pastrami sandwich.

On May 20, 2024 at 6:24:35 PM EDT, "Andrzej Matuch" <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

> I have a lot of tolerance for complete bullshit but even I can't stand
> following American politics anymore. I mostly stay out of reading the
> news as a result.

This.

And why the fuck is politics being brought into every goddamn newsgroup these
days? Could there be a more boring topic?

To be fair, you NEED a high tolerance for complete bullshit to even be here at
all.

On 2024-05-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2024 08:00:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>
>> https://github.com/dimitri/pgloader maybe?
>>
>> Or you could just donate to Trump's legal defense funds :-D
>
> I wonder if Cohen will donate the money he admitted he stole from Trump?
> Nah, forget I said that.

Not only did Cohen commit the crime of falsifying the invoice that they're
trying to peg on Trump, he committed grand larceny while doing so. If Trump
actually knew that he was being ripped off, do you think he would signed off
on it? Why does it turn out that those who they attempt to use to attack
Trump, turn out to be slimier than Trump. Are there ANY non-sleazeballs in
the Democrat party world?

(And, yes, I know you can say the same for the Republic party world as
well.)

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:14:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> You could, you know, read the indictments.
>
> They're creative, I'll say that for them.

The problem with reading the indictments is that they don't make sense. A
misdemeanor somehow being elevated to a felony in a way that's never been
done before. In other words sleazeball Democrats being extremely "creative"
(i.e. dishonest) in mishandling the law. Or, as I mentioned before, a Soviet
style show trial.

And now Trump can't even bring in an expert witness who specializes in the
kind of crimes they're supposedly charging Trump with. And the judge's
daughter is big fundraiser in the Democrat party? (Gee, no conflict of
interest here.)

No chance that, if this jury convicts, that this will stand up to an appeal.
Biden and company proving once again that they're even sleazier than the
average politician.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-20, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> rbowman wrote:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> You could, you know, read the indictments.
>>
>>They're creative, I'll say that for them.
>
> The "crime" alleges "election interference", right? Such bullshit.
>
> The Demons have ushered-in a new era in American politics. go after
> adversaries with every trumped-up (no pun intended) charge they can
> think of.

And they're stupid enough to think that, now that they've done this, it
won't happen to them when the roles are reversed. Shortsighted stupidity.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-05-20, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> [Chris] You could, you know, read the indictments.
>
> No I wouldn't. Perhaps you can enlighten me. No one seems to know what the
> crime is supposed to be.

https://manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

>> In any case, I consider this all to be Karma For Lawsuit Larry and his
>> lifetime of malfeasance.
>>
>> Someone wrote a book about John F. Kennedy called "A Thousand Days".
>>
>> When someone writes one about Trump, they should call is "Four Thousand
>> Lawsuits". :-D
>
> Four thousand Soviet-style show trials is what you're trying to say.

No, silly. I'm talking about all the lawsuits, some brought by Trump himself,
that he's been involved with during his miserable life.

> Stalin wouldn't be happy with the ineptness of his spiritual "children."

What a drama queen! Stalin caused, directly or indirectly, millions
to die.

--
Sheriff Chameleotoptor sighed with an air of weary sadness, and then
turned to Doppelgutt and said 'The Senator must really have been on a
bender this time -- he left a party in Cleveland, Ohio, at 11:30 last
night, and they found his car this morning in the smokestack of a British
aircraft carrier in the Formosa Straits.'
-- Grand Panjandrum's Special Award, 1985 Bulwer-Lytton
bad fiction contest.

On Tue, 21 May 2024 03:00:43 -0000 (UTC), RonB
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2024-05-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:14:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> You could, you know, read the indictments.
>>
>> They're creative, I'll say that for them.
>
>The problem with reading the indictments is that they don't make sense. A
>misdemeanor somehow being elevated to a felony in a way that's never been
>done before. In other words sleazeball Democrats being extremely "creative"
>(i.e. dishonest) in mishandling the law. Or, as I mentioned before, a Soviet
>style show trial.
>
>And now Trump can't even bring in an expert witness who specializes in the
>kind of crimes they're supposedly charging Trump with. And the judge's
>daughter is big fundraiser in the Democrat party? (Gee, no conflict of
>interest here.)
>
>No chance that, if this jury convicts, that this will stand up to an appeal.
>Biden and company proving once again that they're even sleazier than the
>average politician.

Despite the fact that they thought it wouldn't negatively impact Biden
in the slightest, any American with an IQ higher than 80 knows that
going after Trump is orchestrated by Biden and his administration.
That's part of why Biden's support is dwindling.

rbowman wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> The "crime" alleges "election interference", right? Such bullshit.
>
>That's the Georgia indictment. The current dog and pony show involving a
>whore and a convicted serial perjurer and self-admitted thief is 34 counts
>of falsifying business records in the first degree:
>
>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-34-felony-counts-charges-
>new-york-read/
>
>It hinges on 'with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime
>and aid and conceal the commission thereof,' with the 'other crime' being
>unspecified but supposedly an attempt to interfere in the 2016 election.

Well, yeah. Since there's no crime in paying the bitch off to stay
silent, they have to twist that into something else, i.e. "election
interference". Fscking nonsense anyway.

On 2024-05-21, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2024 03:00:43 -0000 (UTC), RonB
><ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-05-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:14:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could, you know, read the indictments.
>>>
>>> They're creative, I'll say that for them.
>>
>>The problem with reading the indictments is that they don't make sense. A
>>misdemeanor somehow being elevated to a felony in a way that's never been
>>done before. In other words sleazeball Democrats being extremely "creative"
>>(i.e. dishonest) in mishandling the law. Or, as I mentioned before, a Soviet
>>style show trial.
>>
>>And now Trump can't even bring in an expert witness who specializes in the
>>kind of crimes they're supposedly charging Trump with. And the judge's
>>daughter is big fundraiser in the Democrat party? (Gee, no conflict of
>>interest here.)
>>
>>No chance that, if this jury convicts, that this will stand up to an appeal.
>>Biden and company proving once again that they're even sleazier than the
>>average politician.
>
> Despite the fact that they thought it wouldn't negatively impact Biden
> in the slightest, any American with an IQ higher than 80 knows that
> going after Trump is orchestrated by Biden and his administration.
> That's part of why Biden's support is dwindling.

That and the fact he's a corrupt and inept senile pervert.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine