"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets into
>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>> charges.>
>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special low
>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement... but
>>> not Congress critters.
>>
>>But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining that
>>it is "choosing winners & losers".
>
> *applause*

Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.

Better than the return the substandard government securities have, which is
just us paying the interest, as well as the principle they have 'borrowed'.
We're barely making inflation rates with 3% interest. That's a pretty shitty
retirement account that gains no value.....

On 9/9/24 11:48 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
> news:vbcuf8$ahp0$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 9/4/24 3:05 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jayle Byrd" <jbyrd@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:vba9tc$3vq6d$5@news.mixmin.net...
>>>> On 9/4/2024 9:48 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fkqedj9og6n3k9tv8gj19daroi26mvd4rp@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 09:30:08 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/30/24 3:41 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...and just wait until P2025 abolishes police, fire, & weather
>>>>>>>>>>> services:
>>>>>>>>>>>   better start to calculate how much more its going to cost an
>>>>>>>>>>> individual citizen to replace just these services with
>>>>>>>>>>> privately run (&
>>>>>>>>>>> for-profit) services.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guarantee you it will cost more than the tax savings.  Then
>>>>>>>>>> there'll
>>>>>>>>>> be the lawsuits filed by the homeowners whose houses caught
>>>>>>>>>>  fire because a neighbor didn't have a fire service contract.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is merely YA example of where it becomes painfully clear
>>>>>>>>> just how
>>>>>>>>> bad many people are at actually developing an expenses budget,
>>>>>>>>> and then
>>>>>>>>> go on to make bad decisions that are against their own self
>>>>>>>>> interests.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FWIW, another common example of this is how they claim that EU
>>>>>>>>> taxes are
>>>>>>>>> frightfully bad (eg, 44%), not realizing that it includes
>>>>>>>>> healthcare and
>>>>>>>>> higher education, so the correct comparison starts their own
>>>>>>>>> 22% Fed
>>>>>>>>> rate, but then adds +32% ($25K/Median Income) for healthcare,
>>>>>>>>> plus let's
>>>>>>>>> say +1% for college/etc, for (22% + 32% + 1%) = 55% >> more
>>>>>>>>> than EU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Top five national income tax rates.
>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/H1LJylHMPz0>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're trying to prove your point by ignoring many taxes...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point is that in exchange for their higher taxes, Europeans get
>>>>>> a lot more
>>>>>> than we do.  Free university education.  No/low co-pay healthcare
>>>>>> including
>>>>>> prescriptions.  Vast public transportation networks that make it
>>>>>> unnecessary to
>>>>>> own a car for most people and one of the best quality road
>>>>>> networks on the
>>>>>> planet.  European highways are built to last twice as long as ours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Caveat:  Their defense budgets have historically been lower than
>>>>>> ours owing to
>>>>>> our investment in our mutual security.  Think about post WW II.
>>>>>> Who in their
>>>>>> right mind would want to see Europe rearm itself?  Nobody.  For
>>>>>> that reason, we
>>>>>> dominated European security to avoid the risks of them rearming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That danger is now past with the EU and Schweringen so they can
>>>>>> now arm
>>>>>> themselves in earnest.  And they are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But let's go with income tax.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In California combined state and federal income tax takes over
>>>>>>> 50% of your
>>>>>>> income.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that's right wing propaganda because California, like
>>>>>> federal, has a
>>>>>> progressive tax rate and their top marginal rate is currently
>>>>>> 14.4%. The
>>>>>> federal is 37%, but those are "top marginal" rates.  For those who
>>>>>> don't know
>>>>>> haw marginal rates work:
>>>>>
>>>>> You're just looking at income tax.. do you think that the ONLY tax
>>>>> that exists?
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, pretty soon Kamala would be evicting people from their homes
>>>>> because they can't pay the 25% in the unrealized income from any
>>>>> increase in the value of their home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Further, I don't see Europe ignoring their homeless while being
>>>>> able to pay to fly illegal immigrants here and arranging their
>>>>> illegal entry into the country, while then providing them housing,
>>>>> food, jobs, transportation and legal representation while the
>>>>> government pretends that deportation would ever occur for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder how much the money spend on opening the border and all the
>>>>> care given to those who ignored are laws would have done to help
>>>>> our own homeless and poor????
>>>>>
>>>>> I heard somewhere this has cost $451 Billion/year so far, and let's
>>>>> say half of that/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/border-crisis-costs-american-
>>>>> taxpayers-451-billion-annually-house-gop-report-claims/
>>>>>
>>>>> We currently have (according to HUD, 653,104 homeless Americans)
>>>>> that's $345,274 per person.
>>>>>
>>>>> In ONE year we could virtually eliminate our homeless problem and
>>>>> certainly within 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead, we allow a lot of homeless illegal immigrants who then
>>>>> compete with poor americans for housing, jobs, food, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So tell me, give our TOTAL level of taxation is higher than in
>>>>> Europe.. why don't we have such things here????
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean Democrats are seriously talking about taxing money that
>>>>> people don't even have.
>>>>>
>>>>> How long until grandma is evicted from her home because she can't
>>>>> pay the 25% tax on the unrealized income made from the increase in
>>>>> property values?
>>>>
>>>> "Fight to stop 96-year-old Pacific Grove woman's eviction continues"
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ksbw.com/article/california-96-year-old-pacific-grove-
>>>> womans-eviction/62046753
>>>>
>>>>> Who will buy these homes? Corporations will who will then make you
>>>>> pay to live in them because you can't afford to buy a home.
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly what they are doing and why homes have become
>>>> unaffordable.
>>>>
>>>>> How about the 25% you will have to pay on the income your 401K, and
>>>>> what will you do for retirement with the government sucking all
>>>>> that income from your retirement account?
>>>>
>>>> Biden stole 30% from 401k savings in 2023.
>>>>
>>>>> And in the end will it really change how the rich do things? No, it
>>>>> wont'.
>>>>
>>>> Putting Nancy Pelosi in jail for inside trading and graft would
>>>> would be a good start.
>>>
>>> That's one I could NEVER understand.. how did Congress EVER get to
>>> the point that the laws they create for everyone else does NOT apply
>>> to them.
>>
>>
>> Because too many politicians today are selfish money grubbing
>> assholes, with zero interest in Public Service.  Its also why there's
>> sections of the tax code which have so many qualification requirements
>> that they literally only apply to one (nicely donating) taxpayer.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Frankly I would love to throw those those into jail.
>>>
>>> Our leadership was NEVER suppose to be 'above the law' yet that's
>>> exactly what we have. Further, due to insider trading, their
>>> decisions can now become decided not what is best for the nation, but
>>> rather which stocks will move the most and how much can they profit
>>> personally choosing B over A.
>>
>> Then stop voting those jerks into office & support ethics reforms for
>> them .. and for SCOTUS too.
>>
>>
>>> You will also note that THEIR retirement funds don't go into SSA, but
>>> rather their own PRIVATE fund. Why is that? If SSA is good enough for
>>> the rest of us it should be good enough for them.
>>
>> Incorrect; Feds do pay into SSA.
>
> I wasn't talking feds, I'm talking Congress which runs it's own little
> independent fund for themselves.

On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>
>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>> into
>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>> charges.>
>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special low
>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>> but
>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>
>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining that
>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>
>> *applause*
>
> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.

That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.

> Better than the return the substandard government securities have, which
> is just us paying the interest, as well as the principle they have
> 'borrowed'.

Except that those securities have low returns because they're considered
to be low/lowest risk: fundamentally, the Market works from how higher
returns require higher risk (including risk of total loss).

> We're barely making inflation rates with 3% interest. That's a pretty
> shitty retirement account that gains no value.....

If your money is only making 3%, sounds like you need to shop around
more: there's FDIC insured savings accounts currently paying 5% APR.

Plus don't forget that Social Security isn't only a pension, but is also
a disability insurance policy throughout one's working years: that
needs to be considered as well when one tries to assess its 'yield'.

-hh

On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 10:51:14 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets into
>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>> charges.>
>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special low
>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement... but
>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>
>>>But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining that
>>>it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>
>> *applause*
>
>Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>
>Better than the return the substandard government securities have, which is
>just us paying the interest, as well as the principle they have 'borrowed'.
>We're barely making inflation rates with 3% interest. That's a pretty shitty
>retirement account that gains no value.....
>

SS pays off with no limit. No matter how long you live, you still collect.

And let's not forget what happened to the private investor market in 2008.

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"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
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> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>>> into
>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>> charges.>
>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special low
>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>>> but
>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>
>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>> that
>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>
>>> *applause*
>>
>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>
> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.

Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they have
enough advantage to overcome that.

Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.

On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
> news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.me...
>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the
>>>>>> assets into
>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>> low
>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with
>>>>>> embezzlement... but
>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>> that
>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>
>>>> *applause*
>>>
>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>
>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>
> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>
> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.

On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering
lightweight fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.

For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund
so that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average,
what are you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now
not there to pay this month's retirees?

Furthermore, what's the policy plan for when the SP500 stays negative
for 5+ years? For 10+ years?

FYI, don't try to claim that such timelines are impossible, because all
three of these (5, 10 years in the red) have already historically
happened repeatedly before. Indeed, there's even been one period where
the US Stock Market was underwater for 15+ years.

Summary: "invest better" is pathetically easy to say, but coming up
with a demonstrably better solution escapes those who make that claim.

-hh

On 2024-09-10, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.me...
>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the
>>>>>>> assets into
>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with
>>>>>>> embezzlement... but
>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>
>>>>> *applause*
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>
>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>
>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>
>
> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering
> lightweight fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>
> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund
> so that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average,
> what are you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now
> not there to pay this month's retirees?
>
> Furthermore, what's the policy plan for when the SP500 stays negative
> for 5+ years? For 10+ years?
>
> FYI, don't try to claim that such timelines are impossible, because all
> three of these (5, 10 years in the red) have already historically
> happened repeatedly before. Indeed, there's even been one period where
> the US Stock Market was underwater for 15+ years.
>
> Summary: "invest better" is pathetically easy to say, but coming up
> with a demonstrably better solution escapes those who make that claim.
>
>
> -hh

OMG!
Do you ever step out from behind your abacus into the real world, open your eyes and see what is
actually going on?
You should go work for Harris because her and Biden keep telling people that Bidenomics is working
and the economy is great.

Remember that Iraqi war minister?

Same thing.
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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
> On 2024-09-10, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the
>>>>>>>> assets into
>>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with
>>>>>>>> embezzlement... but
>>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *applause*
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>>
>>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>>
>>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>>
>>
>> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering
>> lightweight fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>>
>> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund
>> so that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average,
>> what are you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now
>> not there to pay this month's retirees?
>>
>> Furthermore, what's the policy plan for when the SP500 stays negative
>> for 5+ years? For 10+ years?
>>
>> FYI, don't try to claim that such timelines are impossible, because all
>> three of these (5, 10 years in the red) have already historically
>> happened repeatedly before. Indeed, there's even been one period where
>> the US Stock Market was underwater for 15+ years.
>>
>> Summary: "invest better" is pathetically easy to say, but coming up
>> with a demonstrably better solution escapes those who make that claim.
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> OMG!
> Do you ever step out from behind your abacus into the real world, open
> your eyes and see what is
> actually going on?

Oh, so you can’t dispute this either.

> You should go work for Harris because her and Biden keep telling people that
> Bidenomics is working and the economy is great.

Inflation from the CoVid fiscal stimulus money is subsiding, and done
without an employment-crashing recession: if not a success, what would you
objectively characterize this as?

Or don’t you recall the high inflation and 17% mortgage rates under Reagan
which didn’t subside until he had a recession?

> Remember that Iraqi war minister?
>
> Same thing.

Yeah, that is just like what you’re doing. Well done…?

-hh

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 10:51:14 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets into
>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>> charges.>
>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special low
>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement... but
>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>
>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining that
>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>
>>> *applause*
>>
>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>
>> Better than the return the substandard government securities have, which is
>> just us paying the interest, as well as the principle they have 'borrowed'.
>> We're barely making inflation rates with 3% interest. That's a pretty shitty
>> retirement account that gains no value.....
>>
>
> SS pays off with no limit. No matter how long you live, you still collect.
>
> And let's not forget what happened to the private investor market in 2008.

The good news about that recession is that the Market remained underwater
for ‘only’ 5 years.

Of course, anyone actually familiar with retirement investing sees where
there was a big old “Sequence of Returns” risk from that chapter…

…even before noting that Markets have remained underwater for longer
periods too. Case in point, the 1929 Market crash wasn’t fully recovered
from until 1954.

Cite:
<https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/stock-market-crash-of-1929#:~:text=The%20Dow%20did%20not%20return,crash%20heights%20until%20November%201954.&text=The%20financial%20boom%20occurred%20during,and%20other%20new%20technologies%20proliferated.>

-hh

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
news:vbq6io$34amt$4@dont-email.me...
> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.me...
>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>
>>>>> *applause*
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>
>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>
>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>
>
> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering lightweight
> fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>
> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund so
> that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average, what are
> you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now not there
> to pay this month's retirees?

About the same thing that is going to happen when the government starts
defaulting because they can no longer afford to even pay the interest.

But at least I would be making a reasonable amount of interest off of it
until such a collapse.. as it is inflation eliminated any 'profit' I might
see from the government's mandate.

In which case, I might as well keep my money and invest it as I see fit.

On 2024-09-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
> news:vbq6io$34amt$4@dont-email.me...
>> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>
news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.mhttps://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2021/12/03/benjamin-crump-americas-
racial-justice-profiteer/e...
>>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *applause*
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>>
>>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>>
>>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>>
>>
>> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering lightweight
>> fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>>
>> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund so
>> that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average, what are
>> you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now not there
>> to pay this month's retirees?
>
> About the same thing that is going to happen when the government starts
> defaulting because they can no longer afford to even pay the interest.
>
> But at least I would be making a reasonable amount of interest off of it
> until such a collapse.. as it is inflation eliminated any 'profit' I might
> see from the government's mandate.
>
> In which case, I might as well keep my money and invest it as I see fit.

Inflation, for the most part, is a direct result of excessive, flagrant government spending.

--
Charlie Glock
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
- Thomas Jefferson 1776

On 11 Sep 2024 21:47:23 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-09-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> news:vbq6io$34amt$4@dont-email.me...
>>> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.mhttps://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2021/12/03/benjamin-crump-americas-
>racial-justice-profiteer/e...
>>>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *applause*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>>>
>>>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>>>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering lightweight
>>> fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>>>
>>> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund so
>>> that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average, what are
>>> you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now not there
>>> to pay this month's retirees?
>>
>> About the same thing that is going to happen when the government starts
>> defaulting because they can no longer afford to even pay the interest.
>>
>> But at least I would be making a reasonable amount of interest off of it
>> until such a collapse.. as it is inflation eliminated any 'profit' I might
>> see from the government's mandate.
>>
>> In which case, I might as well keep my money and invest it as I see fit.
>
>Inflation, for the most part, is a direct result of excessive, flagrant government spending.

Tell it to Trump who pumped $8T in new debt into the US $20T economy.

"She spanked that ass."

"He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
woman he can't control."
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>

--
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#nevertrump

On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<3ao4ejp46rkipgmhtojo0vstsdmngre9ao@4ax.com>:

> On 11 Sep 2024 21:47:23 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-09-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vbq6io$34amt$4@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>> news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.mhttps://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2021/12/0
>> 3/benjamin-crump-americas-
>> racial-justice-profiteer/e...
>>>>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *applause*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>>>>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering lightweight
>>>> fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>>>>
>>>> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund so
>>>> that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average, what are
>>>> you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now not there
>>>> to pay this month's retirees?
>>>
>>> About the same thing that is going to happen when the government starts
>>> defaulting because they can no longer afford to even pay the interest.
>>>
>>> But at least I would be making a reasonable amount of interest off of it
>>> until such a collapse.. as it is inflation eliminated any 'profit' I might
>>> see from the government's mandate.
>>>
>>> In which case, I might as well keep my money and invest it as I see fit.
>>
>> Inflation, for the most part, is a direct result of excessive, flagrant
>> government spending.
>
> Tell it to Trump who pumped $8T in new debt into the US $20T economy.
>
> "She spanked that ass."
>
> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
> woman he can't control."
> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>

That's a great clip. Thanks.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 12 Sep 2024 16:48:58 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> "She spanked that ass."
>>
>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>> woman he can't control."
>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>
>That's a great clip. Thanks.

I thought so, and one of the most astute comments I've heard about the debate.

--
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#nevertrump

Snit wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <3ao4ejp46rkipgmhtojo0vstsdmngre9ao@4ax.com>:
>
>> On 11 Sep 2024 21:47:23 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-09-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:vbq6io$34amt$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>> news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.mhttps://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2021/12/0
>>> 3/benjamin-crump-americas-
>>> racial-justice-profiteer/e...
>>>>>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *applause*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>>>>>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering lightweight
>>>>> fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund so
>>>>> that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average, what are
>>>>> you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now not there
>>>>> to pay this month's retirees?
>>>>
>>>> About the same thing that is going to happen when the government starts
>>>> defaulting because they can no longer afford to even pay the interest.
>>>>
>>>> But at least I would be making a reasonable amount of interest off of it
>>>> until such a collapse.. as it is inflation eliminated any 'profit' I might
>>>> see from the government's mandate.
>>>>
>>>> In which case, I might as well keep my money and invest it as I see fit.
>>>
>>> Inflation, for the most part, is a direct result of excessive, flagrant
>>> government spending.
>>
>> Tell it to Trump who pumped $8T in new debt into the US $20T economy.
>>
>> "She spanked that ass."
>>
>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>> woman he can't control."
>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>
> That's a great clip. Thanks.
>
i blew myself up

On Sep 12, 2024 at 3:03:13 PM MST, "%" wrote
<PXWdneMUGqq_-H77nZ2dnZfqn_YAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> Snit wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <3ao4ejp46rkipgmhtojo0vstsdmngre9ao@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 11 Sep 2024 21:47:23 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-09-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:vbq6io$34amt$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 9/10/24 1:48 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>> news:vbnl59$2hbdt$2@dont-email.mhttps://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2021/12/0
>>>> 3/benjamin-crump-americas-
>>>> racial-justice-profiteer/e...
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/24 11:51 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:6mlkdjpqopg9f04cdeanrau61ccetfbeg7@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:49:12 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets
>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>> ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal
>>>>>>>>>>>> charges.>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special
>>>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>>>> yield stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement...
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> not Congress critters.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But if it were invested in the private sector, you'd be complaining
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> it is "choosing winners & losers".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *applause*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, but going with a straight fortune 500 might be a good start.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's still picking ... and Small Businesses would be disadvantaged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, given small business loans, financial aid and such.. I think they
>>>>>>> have enough advantage to overcome that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, I will just acknowledge you're now having to make excuses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the contrary: I've simply shown that you're only offering lightweight
>>>>>> fluff, not actually serious policy proposals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, even if we were to say to put SS into an SP500 index fund so
>>>>>> that it can reap the Market's classically touted 8%/year average, what are
>>>>>> you going to do when there's a Market crash and the money's now not there
>>>>>> to pay this month's retirees?
>>>>>
>>>>> About the same thing that is going to happen when the government starts
>>>>> defaulting because they can no longer afford to even pay the interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> But at least I would be making a reasonable amount of interest off of it
>>>>> until such a collapse.. as it is inflation eliminated any 'profit' I might
>>>>> see from the government's mandate.
>>>>>
>>>>> In which case, I might as well keep my money and invest it as I see fit.
>>>>
>>>> Inflation, for the most part, is a direct result of excessive, flagrant
>>>> government spending.
>>>
>>> Tell it to Trump who pumped $8T in new debt into the US $20T economy.
>>>
>>> "She spanked that ass."
>>>
>>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>>> woman he can't control."
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>>
>> That's a great clip. Thanks.
>>
> i blew myself up

Kinky!

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sep 12, 2024 at 10:16:24 AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<dd86ej9mibgect0klpc94j6732ifkpfcef@4ax.com>:

> On 12 Sep 2024 16:48:58 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>
>>> "She spanked that ass."
>>>
>>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>>> woman he can't control."
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>>
>> That's a great clip. Thanks.
>
> I thought so, and one of the most astute comments I've heard about the debate.

I have not checked... do you know if the polls have changed since the debate?

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 13 Sep 2024 00:28:34 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 12, 2024 at 10:16:24?AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
><dd86ej9mibgect0klpc94j6732ifkpfcef@4ax.com>:
>
>> On 12 Sep 2024 16:48:58 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>
>>>> "She spanked that ass."
>>>>
>>>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>>>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>>>> woman he can't control."
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>>>
>>> That's a great clip. Thanks.
>>
>> I thought so, and one of the most astute comments I've heard about the debate.
>
>I have not checked... do you know if the polls have changed since the debate?

Not that I'm aware of.

--
"Imagine that. Thousands of illegals enter America where they......pick our
crops, pave our streets, gut our chickens,process our cattle, clean bedpans in
our
nursing homes.

You know, the jobs Americans want but are being "stolen" from them. -- Mitchell
Holman

#nevertrump

On Sep 13, 2024 at 1:00:40 AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<u4s7ejd4ip213bpqhaqcg6d7vr2tpq85ic@4ax.com>:

> On 13 Sep 2024 00:28:34 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 12, 2024 at 10:16:24?AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <dd86ej9mibgect0klpc94j6732ifkpfcef@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 12 Sep 2024 16:48:58 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>
>>>>> "She spanked that ass."
>>>>>
>>>>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>>>>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>>>>> woman he can't control."
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>>>>
>>>> That's a great clip. Thanks.
>>>
>>> I thought so, and one of the most astute comments I've heard about the debate.
>>
>> I have not checked... do you know if the polls have changed since the debate?
>
> Not that I'm aware of.

Without doing any sort of stats, I do not see anything signifiant:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

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Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13 Sep 2024 00:28:34 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 12, 2024 at 10:16:24?AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <dd86ej9mibgect0klpc94j6732ifkpfcef@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 12 Sep 2024 16:48:58 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>
>>>>> "She spanked that ass."
>>>>>
>>>>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>>>>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>>>>> woman he can't control."
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>>>>
>>>> That's a great clip. Thanks.
>>>
>>> I thought so, and one of the most astute comments I've heard about the debate.
>>
>> I have not checked... do you know if the polls have changed since the debate?
>
> Not that I'm aware of.
>

Just read the following. Had no link, so caveat emptor:

Post debate polls:
Harris 50-45 (+5) Morn Consult
Harris 47-42 (+5) Ipsos/Reuters
Harris 51-47 (+4) RMG
Harris 50-46 (+4) Data4Progress
Harris 49-45 (+4) YouGov/Times (LVs)
Harris 50-47 (+3) Leger/NYPost
Harris 48-45 (+3) SoCal
Harris 44-42 (+2) Redfield/W

-hh

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 19:15:35 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 13 Sep 2024 00:28:34 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 12, 2024 at 10:16:24?AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>> <dd86ej9mibgect0klpc94j6732ifkpfcef@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 12 Sep 2024 16:48:58 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 11, 2024 at 8:36:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> "She spanked that ass."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "He looked small, he looked withered, he looked beaten, but most of all, he
>>>>>> looked pissed. And there's nothing quite like a pissed bigot on stage with a
>>>>>> woman he can't control."
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bFMNPwyqkK4>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a great clip. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> I thought so, and one of the most astute comments I've heard about the debate.
>>>
>>> I have not checked... do you know if the polls have changed since the debate?
>>
>> Not that I'm aware of.
>>
>
>Just read the following. Had no link, so caveat emptor:
>
>Post debate polls:
>Harris 50-45 (+5) Morn Consult
>Harris 47-42 (+5) Ipsos/Reuters
>Harris 51-47 (+4) RMG
>Harris 50-46 (+4) Data4Progress
>Harris 49-45 (+4) YouGov/Times (LVs)
>Harris 50-47 (+3) Leger/NYPost
>Harris 48-45 (+3) SoCal
>Harris 44-42 (+2) Redfield/W
>
>
>-hh

At 270towin, Trump leads in Georgia 1.3% and Arizona 2%. Harris leads in all
other battlegrounds, notably by 3.5% in Wisconsin.
<https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/>
(select 'Competitiveness' to see the battlegrounds grouped together.)

At 538, Trump leads in Arizona .7%, Georgia .6%, Harris leads everywhere else
though her lead is only .1% in Nevada and North Carolina.
<https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/>
(select states from the dropdown)

At RCP Trump is ahead in NC 0.1%, AZ 1.6% and GA 0.3% with Harris leading in the
west.
<https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris>
(state races listed in right side)

All three averages have Harris ahead in the national polls from 1.5 to 3%

Harris and hubby streaming netflix
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nCiKilUo-40>
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