Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 00:51:12 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:38 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> super70s wrote:
>>>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>>>
>>>> '1984' was a book about LEFTISM, which is totalitarian. It manifestly
>>>> FAILS to describe Trump or his movement.
>>>
>>> No, it was not. It was a book about authoritarianism which is a political system.
>> Yes it was. Authoritarianism is NOT totalitarianism. '1984' describes
>> totalitarianism.
>
> Why are you discussing politics when you're so ignorant of political language?

Projecting again, sodomite?

>> Authoritarianism wants to force people like you to shut the fuck up
>> about politics. Totalitarianism seeks to control the very THOUGHTS
>> of EVERYONE.
>>
>> As a result, authoritarians only murder between 1/100th and 1/1000th
>> the number of people totalitarians do.
>
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
>
> <laughs and points at the fool>

Go look up some of R.J. Rummel's work, faggot. Then get gunned down at a
gay nightclub.

Jonathan David Ball wrote:
> On 8/13/2024 8:09 PM, Anony-Mouse — squat-to-piss faggot cocksucker who soon
> will be culled — lied:
>> Jonathan David Ball wrote:
>
> No such poster, as Anony-Mouse — squat-to-piss faggot cocksucker who soon will
> be culled — well knows.
>
>>> On 8/10/2024 2:03 PM, Anony-Mouse — squat-to-piss faggot cocksucker who soon
>>> will be culled — lied:
>>>> super70s wrote:
>>>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>>>>   John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>>>
>>>> '1984' was a book about LEFTISM, which is totalitarian.
>>>
>>> Fuck off, you flatulent cunt. It was a book about totalitarianism, from *any*
>>> side, and the worst totalitarianism is always from the right.
>>>
>>> You filthy subhuman Nazi fuckscum
>>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as "right wing totalitarianism"
>
> That is *all* there is,

Stop lying, Jonathan David Ball.

> Anony-Mouse, you squat-to-piss faggot cocksucker who
> soon will be culled.
>
> I own you, you little faggot.
>

Whatever, shorty.

super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>
>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>
>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>> Choose wisely.'
>>
>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>
>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>> it as an instruction manual.
>
> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>

Ok, can you explain how Donald Trump has done anything like 1984? How is he
aiming to make a totalitarian or even authoritarian state? (You can mention
Jan 6, but have other exaples please)

Grimble Crumble wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>
>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>
>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>
>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>
>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>
>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>
> Ok, can you explain how Donald Trump has done anything like 1984?

Ever heard of Newspeak?

> How is he aiming to make a totalitarian or even authoritarian state? (You can
> mention Jan 6, but have other exaples please)

Project 2025 and Agenda 47. Plus all the crap about prosecuting all his enemies
he shrieks about at his hate rallies.

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>George Orwell was only off by 40 years.

As soon as the Dems successfully steal the election from hapless feeble old
man Trump again, he's off to prison where he'll be beaten and sodomized like
any other useless old man on the prison block.

Trump is the stupid man's smart guy!

On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:54:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Grimble Crumble wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>
>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>
>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>
>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>
>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>
>> Ok, can you explain how Donald Trump has done anything like 1984?
>
>Ever heard of Newspeak?
>
>> How is he aiming to make a totalitarian or even authoritarian state? (You can
>> mention Jan 6, but have other exaples please)
>
>Project 2025 and Agenda 47. Plus all the crap about prosecuting all his enemies
>he shrieks about at his hate rallies.

Trump asking Russia to interfere in our elections.

I wish there was a knob on my TV that would let me turn up the intelligence.
There's a brightness knob, but it doesn't work.

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doesn't the GOP send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass
Shootings it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown

The non insurrection according to Tucker Carlson:
https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1635677233787588609?lang=en

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

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Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Grimble Crumble wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>
>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>
>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>
>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>
>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>
>> Ok, can you explain how Donald Trump has done anything like 1984?
>
> Ever heard of Newspeak?

Yes, I have. Newspeak is what Ingsoc (the totalitarian party in 1984 for
those who don't know) wants to replace the English language with eventually
in the book. Newspeak is designed to be simple in nature to stop dissent or
even complex thought in general. If there are no possible words to express
dissent from the party, how could one even think of it? For example, in
newspeak there is no word for bad.

A sort-of "Newspeak" was made by people trying to circumvent censorship on
social media sites ("unalive" instead of "kill" or "suicide"), but I fail
to see how Donald Trump created or caused this (in addition, it was
reactionary to speech being limited). Maybe I'm just missing it, but I
really don't see how this relevent to Trump.

>
>> How is he aiming to make a totalitarian or even authoritarian state? (You can
>> mention Jan 6, but have other exaples please)
>
> Project 2025 and Agenda 47. Plus all the crap about prosecuting all his enemies
> he shrieks about at his hate rallies.

I'll address each thing listed one at time, and show how they don't
actually support Authoritarianism let alone Totalitarianism.

Project 2025 may sound scary, and it definitely is for Democrats, but not
in the way you think. Project 2025 is not an organization seeking to change
the government in any way, nor is it seeking to do anything
unconstitutional. Project 2025 is simply conservatives uniting together.
After all, it's easier to do everything when your team is united on a
strategy. These policies usually involve *de*centralization of the
government (aka giving more power to the states, and cutting funding from
some federal agencies). Project 2025 makes no effort to establish a
dictatorship, because, no matter what, the people of the United States
elect their government.

Agenda47 is Trump saying "here is what I'll do as president". I read
through it, and I couldn't see how any point establishes Authoritarianism.
Remeber, his proposed packing of agencies does not mean Authoritarianism,
as these agencies are apart of the government. In order to establish
Ingsoc, he would have to target the people's right to vote, and the
fundemental organization of the government (such as changing elected
positions to appointed ones, or giving more power to specific states to
control the federal government, or changing elections).

When it comes to his supposed prosecution of his enemies, it's because they
have prosecuted him politically. Maybe he did commit these crimes, but he
was charged because he is sticking a fork in the Democrat's plans. Were he
just a businessman, he'd have no charges (the crimes were business
related). Also, will we just ignore the whole Hunter Biden situation, or
the evil that is the Clintons? The charges are politically motivated. I'm
all for justice, but not one-sided justice.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:54:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
wrote in <vbl9uh$236pq$3@dont-email.me>:

> Grimble Crumble wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>
>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>
>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>
>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are
>>>> using it as an instruction manual.
>>>
>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>
>> Ok, can you explain how Donald Trump has done anything like 1984?
>
> Ever heard of Newspeak?
>
>> How is he aiming to make a totalitarian or even authoritarian state?
>> (You can mention Jan 6, but have other exaples please)
>
> Project 2025 and Agenda 47. Plus all the crap about prosecuting all his
> enemies he shrieks about at his hate rallies.

Does this have to be in cola?

(followup-to set)

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In <lk78bbFos1uU2@mid.individual.net> vallor wrote:
>
> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:54:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
> wrote in <vbl9uh$236pq$3@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Grimble Crumble wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>>
>>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are
>>>>> using it as an instruction manual.
>>>>
>>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>>
>>> Ok, can you explain how Donald Trump has done anything like 1984?
>>
>> Ever heard of Newspeak?
>>
>>> How is he aiming to make a totalitarian or even authoritarian state?
>>> (You can mention Jan 6, but have other exaples please)
>>
>> Project 2025 and Agenda 47. Plus all the crap about prosecuting all his
>> enemies he shrieks about at his hate rallies.
>
> Does this have to be in cola?

It started there, so yes.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 21:49:19 -0500, Grimble Crumble <grimblecrumble870@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Agenda47 is Trump saying "here is what I'll do as president". I read
>through it, and I couldn't see how any point establishes Authoritarianism.
>Remeber, his proposed packing of agencies does not mean Authoritarianism,
>as these agencies are apart of the government. In order to establish
>Ingsoc, he would have to target the people's right to vote, and the
>fundemental organization of the government (such as changing elected
>positions to appointed ones, or giving more power to specific states to
>control the federal government, or changing elections).

Utter nonsense. The people's right to vote wasn't abrogated by Stalin,
Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, Kruschev, Brezhnev or any other
authoritarian/totalitarian leader in modern times.

Raising children
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dBitGpebfIM>

--
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doesn't the GOP send thoughts and prayers? It works so well for Mass
Shootings it should easily solve the border issue." - unknown

The non insurrection according to Tucker Carlson:
https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1635677233787588609?lang=en

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 21:49:19 -0500, Grimble Crumble <grimblecrumble870@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Agenda47 is Trump saying "here is what I'll do as president". I read
>> through it, and I couldn't see how any point establishes Authoritarianism.
>> Remeber, his proposed packing of agencies does not mean Authoritarianism,
>> as these agencies are apart of the government. In order to establish
>> Ingsoc, he would have to target the people's right to vote, and the
>> fundemental organization of the government (such as changing elected
>> positions to appointed ones, or giving more power to specific states to
>> control the federal government, or changing elections).
>
> Utter nonsense. The people's right to vote wasn't abrogated by Stalin,
> Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, Kruschev, Brezhnev or any other
> authoritarian/totalitarian leader in modern times.

Yes, usually the right to vote wasn't infringed upon; instead, the
government was changed in some way. Soviet Russia was already a
dictatorship because of the communists' revolution, just under a slightly
less bad person before Stalin. Hitler was given total power by an act that
would be very very unconstitutional in the United States. A change in the
organization of the government would be necessary for anyone to take
absolute power. Agenda 47 does not plan to do that.

I mentioned the right to vote, because restricting that would be easier
than any other way to enable absolute power.

vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:54:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
> wrote in <vbl9uh$236pq$3@dont-email.me>:
>
>> <snip>
>
> Does this have to be in cola?

Sometimes I forget to check the headers, bro.

So sorry.

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In article <5rmsdjlnvcmc2ej7fo2bkslma2to2ah1e2@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:54:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>
> >Grimble Crumble wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >
> >> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> >>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
> >>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
> >>>>
> >>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
> >>>>
> >>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
> >>>> Choose wisely.'
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
> >>>>
> >>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
> >>>> it as an instruction manual.
> >>>
> >>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
> >>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
> >>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
> >>
> >> Ok, can you explain how Donald Trump has done anything like 1984?
> >
> >Ever heard of Newspeak?
> >
> >> How is he aiming to make a totalitarian or even authoritarian state? (You can
> >> mention Jan 6, but have other exaples please)
> >
> >Project 2025 and Agenda 47. Plus all the crap about prosecuting all his enemies
> >he shrieks about at his hate rallies.
>
> Trump asking Russia to interfere in our elections.

Proof? Didn't think so.
>
> I wish there was a knob on my TV that would let me turn up the intelligence.
> There's a brightness knob, but it doesn't work.

Gallagher.

On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 07:09:12 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:54:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>> <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
>> wrote in <vbl9uh$236pq$3@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>> Does this have to be in cola?
>
> Sometimes I forget to check the headers, bro.
>
> So sorry.

The Pan filters are working fine. Of 65 headers I see 4 with the rest
ignored. Shit-canning anything with limbaugh in the groups works wonders
rather than depending on the cross-post count.

On 9/9/2024 2:03 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 07:09:12 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:54:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
>>> <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
>>> wrote in <vbl9uh$236pq$3@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Does this have to be in cola?
>>
>> Sometimes I forget to check the headers, bro.
>>
>> So sorry.
>
> The Pan filters are working fine. Of 65 headers I see 4 with the rest
> ignored. Shit-canning anything with limbaugh in the groups works wonders
> rather than depending on the cross-post count.

Also filter alt.checkmate and talk.politics.guns.

A couple days ago my filters (cross-posts, conspiracy lusers, general
twits) excluded 80 of the last 82 cola posts. Only vallor and
CARPENTIER showed up, with 1 each.

It's ridiculous.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 22:04:52 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Also filter alt.checkmate and talk.politics.guns.

Those two tend to travel with limbaugh.
> A couple days ago my filters (cross-posts, conspiracy lusers, general
> twits) excluded 80 of the last 82 cola posts. Only vallor and
> CARPENTIER showed up, with 1 each.
>
> It's ridiculous.

I was starting to wonder if anyone was alive. Pan makes it easy to turn
off the header filters and if I did so all I saw was shitposters, most of
which have never been in a relevant cola thread. And hh, of course.

On 2024-09-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 22:04:52 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Also filter alt.checkmate and talk.politics.guns.
>
> Those two tend to travel with limbaugh.
>
>> A couple days ago my filters (cross-posts, conspiracy lusers, general
>> twits) excluded 80 of the last 82 cola posts. Only vallor and
>> CARPENTIER showed up, with 1 each.
>>
>> It's ridiculous.
>
> I was starting to wonder if anyone was alive. Pan makes it easy to turn
> off the header filters and if I did so all I saw was shitposters, most of
> which have never been in a relevant cola thread. And hh, of course.

When "the Canadian" by whatever nym stops posting, this newsgroup gets
quiet. At least it does for me, since I shut off all crossposts and quite a
few other "regular" posters.

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