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* Distro Lackeys Take NoteDiego Garcia
`* Re: Distro Lackeys Take Notevallor
 +* Re: Distro Lackeys Take NoteFarley Flud
 |+* Re: Distro Lackeys Take NoteStéphane CARPENTIER
 ||`* Re: Distro Lackeys Take NoteFarley Flud
 || `- Re: Distro Lackeys Take Notevallor
 |`* Re: Distro Lackeys Take Notecandycanearter07
 | `- Re: Distro Lackeys Take NoteFarley Flud
 `- Re: Distro Lackeys Take Noterbowman

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Subject: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: Diego Garcia
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 16:58 UTC
From: dg@chaos.rocks (Diego Garcia)
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Most mainstream distros are based on Ubuntu or ReadHat, but there really
is no difference twixt the two.

The central theme of Ubuntu is SECURITY. Yes, ridiculous SECURITY.

To satisfy the delusions of brain-dead maintainers, Ubuntu is literally riddled,
and hence crippled, with security "features." Check 'em out:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features

Holy godzilla mutherfuckers! They got more security shit than I have hairs on
my testicles!

Any desktop workstation user that installs Ubuntu, or its derivatives, is a seriously
fucked idiot.

Check out my vulnerability report:

[~]# grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/*
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/gather_data_sampling:Vulnerable: No microcode
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/itlb_multihit:Processor vulnerable
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/l1tf:Not affected
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mds:Not affected
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown:Not affected
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/mmio_stale_data:Vulnerable
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/reg_file_data_sampling:Not affected
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/retbleed:Vulnerable
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spec_rstack_overflow:Not affected
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spec_store_bypass:Vulnerable
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v1:Vulnerable: __user pointer sanitization and user
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v2:Vulnerable; IBPB: disabled; STIBP: disabled; PBR
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/srbds:Not affected
/sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/tsx_async_abort:Vulnerable

[~]# uname -a
Linux odysseus.xxxxxxxxxx 6.9.1 #1 SMP Sun May 19 10:12:55 EDT 2024 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(R) W-2223 CPU @ 3.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Whoa baby! I is vulnerable everywhere!

And I am damned glad of it.

My system runs totally free of any and all security encumbrances.

Hey lackey. Don't you wish that you could do the same?

Maybe some day.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: vallor
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From: vallor@cultnix.org (vallor)
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Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
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On Sun, 19 May 2024 16:58:45 +0000, Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote in
<17d0f259af938473$41041$2863996$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:
> Whoa baby! I is vulnerable everywhere!
>
> And I am damned glad of it.

Yes, Furled Fart has established over and over again that
he is an idiot.

Elsewhere he's disclosed that he runs as root.

I used to do that in the 90's, before I realized
(learned) how extremely stupid that is.

He is the poster boy for how not to run Linux.

However, Poe's Law does apply here -- Furled Fart seems
to be some kind of parody.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

--
-v

Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: Farley Flud
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On Sun, 19 May 2024 17:15:28 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

>
> Elsewhere he's disclosed that he runs as root.
>
> I used to do that in the 90's, before I realized
> (learned) how extremely stupid that is.
>

If it is claimed to be "stupid" than that would imply that
something terrible could happen as a consequence.

What, pray tell, is that terrible thing or things and why
hasn't that terrible thing or things happened to me?

Huh? What? Why?

You have no answer because you are a totally deluded idiot
that is ruled by illusion.

Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: rbowman
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On Sun, 19 May 2024 17:15:28 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

> Elsewhere he's disclosed that he runs as root.
>
> I used to do that in the 90's, before I realized (learned) how extremely
> stupid that is.

I think it was SUSE where if you ran as root the background changed to red
with black, cartoon style bombs.

I can't remember exactly when installing Linux transitioned from setting
up to root account to setting up a user account without being root. It
confused me at first.

In our super secure work environment all the AIX and Linux machines had
the same root password. That bit us a couple of times like when a
programmer tried to free up space on an AIX machine and deleted the
equivalent of /usr/bin. The tradition was to buy donuts after publicly
screwing up.

Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: Stéphane CARPENTIER
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Le 19-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
> What, pray tell, is that terrible thing or things and why
> hasn't that terrible thing or things happened to me?

Three reasons.

First, because your computer does nothing. It's a brick and it's
impossible to take control of a brick.

Second, if you ever manage to run something, it must crash some times
and you don't consider habitual crash as a terrible thing. The fact is,
if you manage to make something work by mistake, when it breaks you
wouldn't be able to see if it's your fault or someone else fault.

Third, the attacks have evolved since the last decades. Thirty years ago
when someone could get access to your computer, it was to break it. Now,
it's to use it. So there are to kinds of reason to access your computer.
The first is ransomewar, which you would know about but as there is
nothing to steal on your computer, that can't happen to you. The second
is to use your computer, so to be as discrete as possible, either to
mine bitcoins or to attack banks. So maybe something terrible is
happening to you and you can't realise it.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
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Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: Farley Flud
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On 19 May 2024 18:43:19 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> Le 19-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>>
>> What, pray tell, is that terrible thing or things and why
>> hasn't that terrible thing or things happened to me?
>
> Three reasons.
>
> [snip feeble bullshit]
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

You are a PROVEN idiot.

I will ALWAYS run as root and I will ALWAYS reject security
and, as ALWAYS, nothing will ever happen. Nothing.

Go and crawl into your bomb shelter and prepare for WWIII.

Idiot.

Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
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On Sun, 19 May 2024 19:02:29 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
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> On 19 May 2024 18:43:19 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> Le 19-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>>>
>>> What, pray tell, is that terrible thing or things and why hasn't that
>>> terrible thing or things happened to me?
>>
>> Three reasons.
>>
>> [snip feeble bullshit]
>>
>>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> You are a PROVEN idiot.
>
> I will ALWAYS run as root and I will ALWAYS reject security and, as
> ALWAYS, nothing will ever happen. Nothing.
>
> Go and crawl into your bomb shelter and prepare for WWIII.
>
> Idiot.

Cool sig, bro.

Dollars to donuts, "Idiot." is running a honeypot -- one that can
be jailbroken.

--
-v

Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: candycanearter07
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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 17:38 this Sunday (GMT):
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 17:15:28 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>
>>
>> Elsewhere he's disclosed that he runs as root.
>>
>> I used to do that in the 90's, before I realized
>> (learned) how extremely stupid that is.
>>
>
> If it is claimed to be "stupid" than that would imply that
> something terrible could happen as a consequence.
>
> What, pray tell, is that terrible thing or things and why
> hasn't that terrible thing or things happened to me?
>
> Huh? What? Why?
>
> You have no answer because you are a totally deluded idiot
> that is ruled by illusion.

It's to keep yourself from breaking something by protecting the
important files unless you need to edit them.

Do you wear a bike helmet?
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Subject: Re: Distro Lackeys Take Note
From: Farley Flud
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On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:50:08 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

>
> It's to keep yourself from breaking something by protecting the
> important files unless you need to edit them.
>

Ever hear of system backups?

If done regularly then another "security" concern is again
nipped in the bud.

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