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Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:

https://www.geeqie.org/

But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie
is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
Winblows.

Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 20:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
>already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>
>https://www.geeqie.org/
>
>But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie
>is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
>Winblows.
>
>Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

I installed it, it looks a bit clunky, actually. What are you
suggesting I use it for?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: DFS
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 22:08 UTC
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On 5/17/2024 3:51 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:

> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
> already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>
> https://www.geeqie.org/

Recycling your lameass posts from only 16 months ago... tsk tsk

> But I am so terribly sorry.

No doubt about that.

> The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie

It is NEITHER. You have to delude yourself to even use that slopware,
let alone claim it's 'fantastic'.

Unfortunately, the untalented hobby developers also claim their crapware
is "the best image viewer / photo collection browser".

> is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
> Winblows.

I clicked over to Ubuntu WSL and installed Geeqie. Running it now.

It's crap. It looks like crap. It has crap menus. It has a crap
toolbar. The options are pitiful. It has no Help. No FAQ. The 'user
manual' is a joke. on and on and on.

It's just barebones junk - the furthest thing from a professional
application.

> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

The single-author, Windows-only, proprietary freeware irfanview smokes
that silly GuhNoo hobbyware in every way possible.

https://www.irfanview.com

=============================================================================
File : 'about.txt' - Info about IrfanView
Author: Irfan Skiljan
E-Mail: irfanview@gmx.net
WWW : http://www.irfanview.com

What is IrfanView ?

IrfanView is a very fast, compact and innovative FREEWARE image
viewer/converter for Windows XP/Vista/Windows 7/8/10/11.

IrfanView is fast and small, with very low system resources
requirements. It is trying to be simple for beginners and powerful for
professionals.

Supported file formats:
AIF, ANI/CUR, ASF, AU/SND, AVI, AVIF, AWD, B3D, BLP, BMP, CAD formats
(DXF/DWG), CLP, DDS, Dicom/ACR, DJVU, DPX/CIN, ECW, EMF/WMF,
EPS/PS/PDF/AI, EXR, FITS, FLIF, FPX, G3, GIF, HDP/WDP, HEIC, AVIF,
ICO/ICL/EXE/DLL, IFF/LBM, QOI, IMG (GEM), JLS, JPG2000, JPG, JPEG-XR,
JPM, JXL, KDC, MED, MID/RMI, MNG/JNG, MP3, MPG/M2TS/MP4/MKV, MrSID, MOV,
OGG, PBM/PGM/PPM, PCX/DCX, PDN, PhotoCD, PNG, PSD, PSP, PVR, RAS/SUN,
RAW, RA, RLE, SFF, SFW, SGI/RGB, SWF/FLV, TGA, TIF, TTF, TXT, WAD, WAV,
WBMP, WEBP, WSQ, XBM, XCF, XPM, CRW/CR2/CR3, DNG, NEF/NRW, ORF, RAF,
MRW, DCR, PEF, SRF, EFF, RWL, MOS, ARW, RW2, SRW, DXF, DWG, HPGL, CGM,
SVG, WBC/WBZ, GLCD, many old formats (Atari, Amiga) etc.

(DFS note: that's at least 100 file formats)

Some features of IrfanView:
32 and 64 bit versions, full Unicode support, multi language support,
Thumbnails, Slideshow, fast directory browsing, batch conversion /
editing, multipage editing, Export Slideshow as video, file search,
email, print, change color depth, scanning, Paint plugin - to paint
lines, circles, arrows, straighten image etc., cut/crop, support for
color profiles, OCR, IPTC edit, screen capturing, lossless JPG
operations, many effects (sharpen, blur, Adobe Photoshop filters),
add watermark image, EXE/SCR creating, many (editable) hotkeys,
many command line options, 60+ plugins.

IrfanView was the first Windows graphic viewer (worldwide) with
Animated-GIF support !

FREEWARE for non commercial use !

Enjoy ! :-)
=============================================================================

GuhNoo/Linux hobbyware can't compete.

As is PROVEN once again, the absolute worst developers in the world work
in the low/unpaid GuhNoo crapware universe, and irfanview vs geeqie is
more evidence that in a world where Windows exists, there's no reason to
use Linux.

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 22:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 18:08:36 -0400, DFS wrote:

> The 'user manual' is a joke.

Windows software comes with such good manuals, doesn’t it?

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: DFS
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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On 5/17/2024 6:27 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2024 18:08:36 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> The 'user manual' is a joke.
>
> Windows software comes with such good manuals, doesn’t it?

Load up irfanview and hit F1.

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
From: Chris Ahlstrom
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 23:41 UTC
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Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
> already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>
> https://www.geeqie.org/
>
> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie
> is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
> Winblows.
>
> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.

At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.

> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

The Arch Linux link don't work. Pacman doesn't see geegle or extra/geegle.
Too lazy to look further right now.

--
Q: Why should you always serve a Southern Carolina football man
soup in a plate?
A: 'Cause if you give him a bowl, he'll throw it away.

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 00:03 UTC
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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>
>At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.

Yeah, but via WSL 2, so really Linux.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 00:04 UTC
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/17/2024 3:51 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:
>
>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
>> already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>
>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>
>> is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
>> Winblows.
>
>I clicked over to Ubuntu WSL and installed Geeqie. Running it now.
>
>It's crap. It looks like crap. It has crap menus. It has a crap
>toolbar. The options are pitiful. It has no Help. No FAQ. The 'user
>manual' is a joke. on and on and on.
>
>It's just barebones junk - the furthest thing from a professional
>application.

I installed it, too, it's broken. Not even clear what I would be
doing with it. Larry is a retard.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
From: Andrzej Matuch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 00:14 UTC
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 19:41:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely already
>> use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>
>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>
>> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie is
>> NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop Winblows.
>>
>> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>
> At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.
>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> The Arch Linux link don't work. Pacman doesn't see geegle or
> extra/geegle.
> Too lazy to look further right now.

Funny enough, I notice that Pan, of all things, is not included in the
Fedora repositories. What the heck is that all about?

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 01:34 UTC
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 18:56:00 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 5/17/2024 6:27 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 18:08:36 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> The 'user manual' is a joke.
>>
>> Windows software comes with such good manuals, doesn’t it?
>
> Load up irfanview and hit F1.

Load up GIMP, and if you can’t remember which key to press, go to the
actual GUI “Help” menu and make a selection from there.

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: Farley Flud
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Organization: UsenetExpress - www.usenetexpress.com
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 12:06 UTC
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From: ff@linux.rocks (Farley Flud)
Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 22:27:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Fri, 17 May 2024 18:08:36 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> The 'user manual' is a joke.
>
> Windows software comes with such good manuals, doesn’t it?
>

What kind of supreme fucking dunce would require a user manual
to operate a simple and straightforward image viewer?

Oh wait! The Microslop user!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
>> already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>
>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>
>> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie
>> is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
>> Winblows.
>>
>> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>
> At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.
>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> The Arch Linux link don't work. Pacman doesn't see geegle or extra/geegle.
> Too lazy to look further right now.

It was a spelling error. Doh!

--
My only love sprung from my only hate!
Too early seen unknown, and known too late!
-- William Shakespeare, "Romeo and Juliet"

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 13:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
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Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 17 May 2024 19:41:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely already
>>> use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>>
>>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>>
>>> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie is
>>> NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop Winblows.
>>>
>>> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>>
>> At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.
>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>> The Arch Linux link don't work. Pacman doesn't see geegle or
>> extra/geegle.
>> Too lazy to look further right now.
>
> Funny enough, I notice that Pan, of all things, is not included in the
> Fedora repositories. What the heck is that all about?

Fedora panned it! (pun intended!)

--
You will wish you hadn't.

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
From: Andrzej Matuch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 13:03 UTC
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On Sat, 18 May 2024 09:01:53 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 19:41:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely already
>>>> use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>>>
>>>> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie is
>>>> NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop Winblows.
>>>>
>>>> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>>>
>>> At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.
>>>
>>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>>
>>> The Arch Linux link don't work. Pacman doesn't see geegle or
>>> extra/geegle.
>>> Too lazy to look further right now.
>>
>> Funny enough, I notice that Pan, of all things, is not included in the
>> Fedora repositories. What the heck is that all about?
>
> Fedora panned it! (pun intended!)

They basically went out of their way to retire it. Do they also consider
Usenet to be dead?

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: DFS
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On 5/17/2024 8:04 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 5/17/2024 3:51 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:
>>
>>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
>>> already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>>
>>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>
>>> is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
>>> Winblows.
>>
>> I clicked over to Ubuntu WSL and installed Geeqie. Running it now.
>>
>> It's crap. It looks like crap. It has crap menus. It has a crap
>> toolbar. The options are pitiful. It has no Help. No FAQ. The 'user
>> manual' is a joke. on and on and on.
>>
>> It's just barebones junk - the furthest thing from a professional
>> application.
>
>
> I installed it, too, it's broken. Not even clear what I would be
> doing with it. Larry is a retard.

He's been doing this schtick for years: promote mediocre or even
horrible GuhNoo crapware and claim it's the best in the world, and it's
not available on Windows, and it's all he uses, and if you're not using
it you're stupid, blah blah

Surely Linux has much better image viewers than geeqie.

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/17/2024 8:04 PM, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2024 3:51 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>>
>>> I clicked over to Ubuntu WSL and installed Geeqie. Running it now.
>>>
>>> It's crap. It looks like crap. It has crap menus. It has a crap
>>> toolbar. The options are pitiful. It has no Help. No FAQ. The 'user
>>> manual' is a joke. on and on and on.
>>>
>>> It's just barebones junk - the furthest thing from a professional
>>> application.
>>
>> I installed it, too, it's broken. Not even clear what I would be
>> doing with it. Larry is a retard.
>
>He's been doing this schtick for years: promote mediocre or even
>horrible GuhNoo crapware and claim it's the best in the world, and it's
>not available on Windows, and it's all he uses, and if you're not using
>it you're stupid, blah blah
>
>Surely Linux has much better image viewers than geeqie.

Xviewer is the default with Mint, it works fine for basic opening of
an image, I dunno what all Larry was insinuating would be done with
his brokenware.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
From: rbowman
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On Sat, 18 May 2024 10:55:40 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Xviewer is the default with Mint, it works fine for basic opening of an
> image, I dunno what all Larry was insinuating would be done with his
> brokenware.

Omage Viewer appears to be the Ubuntu default, Gwenview of the Fedora KDE
spin. They work.

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
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On 2024-05-18, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2024 19:41:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely already
>>> use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>>
>>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>>
>>> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie is
>>> NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop Winblows.
>>>
>>> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>>
>> At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.
>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>> The Arch Linux link don't work. Pacman doesn't see geegle or
>> extra/geegle.
>> Too lazy to look further right now.
>
> Funny enough, I notice that Pan, of all things, is not included in the
> Fedora repositories. What the heck is that all about?

It looks like it's been "retired." Apparently whoever was maintaining it for
Fedora gave up on it. But you can still download the version for Fedora 38.
I'm guessing it would work in Fedora 40. Can't say for sure, I don't know
that much about Fedora.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 19:51 this Friday (GMT):
> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely
> already use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>
> https://www.geeqie.org/
>
> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie
> is NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop
> Winblows.
>
> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

I use nsxiv.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
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On 2024-05-18, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-05-18, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 19:41:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Unless you are a totally subjugated distro lackey, you likely already
>>>> use the great FOSS image viewer Geeqie:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.geeqie.org/
>>>>
>>>> But I am so terribly sorry. The fantastic and unparalleled Geeqie is
>>>> NOT available for that piece-of-shit OS known as Microslop Winblows.
>>>>
>>>> Like ALL great software, Geeqie is Unix/Linux/BSD only.
>>>
>>> At that site, it says it can be run on Windows 11.
>>>
>>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>>
>>> The Arch Linux link don't work. Pacman doesn't see geegle or
>>> extra/geegle.
>>> Too lazy to look further right now.
>>
>> Funny enough, I notice that Pan, of all things, is not included in the
>> Fedora repositories. What the heck is that all about?
>
> It looks like it's been "retired." Apparently whoever was maintaining it for
> Fedora gave up on it. But you can still download the version for Fedora 38.
> I'm guessing it would work in Fedora 40. Can't say for sure, I don't know
> that much about Fedora.

Well, scratch that. I tried Pan on Fedora 39 and it failed to install. I
guess that's one issue with a "cutting edge" distribution that's not as
accute when using a long term (stable) distribution.

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On Sat, 18 May 2024 23:47:14 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> It looks like it's been "retired." Apparently whoever was maintaining it
> for Fedora gave up on it. But you can still download the version for
> Fedora 38. I'm guessing it would work in Fedora 40. Can't say for sure,
> I don't know that much about Fedora.

On Fedora 40 'sudo dnf install pan' pleads ignorance about pan. I think
you can install SABnzbd but the NZB stuff is of no interest to me. It's
not the machine I do usenet on but I do have slrn set up as a backup.

I liked KNode but that's history also.

Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem
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On Sun, 19 May 2024 02:07:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Well, scratch that. I tried Pan on Fedora 39 and it failed to install. I
> guess that's one issue with a "cutting edge" distribution that's not as
> accute when using a long term (stable) distribution.

Trying to build in on my KDE spin would probably be painful since it's a
Gtk app. It does show recent commits so it's not abandoned.

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Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2024 09:01:53 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>> Funny enough, I notice that Pan, of all things, is not included in the
>>> Fedora repositories. What the heck is that all about?
>>
>> Fedora panned it! (pun intended!)
>
> They basically went out of their way to retire it. Do they also consider
> Usenet to be dead?

Red Hat is the main company in the Linux community insisting that everything
has to change in order to make Linux "modern." Systemd was from them, and
they also have a hand in Wayland, and usrmerge was their idea. They also have
radical ideas that haven't been forced on the entire Linux community (yet),
such as read-only rootfs, and image-based updates.

They always export their radical ideas to all other distros, and if this
extends to small details like the availability of newsreaders, I'd expect
to see them vanish from Debian and other distros before too long.

Subject: Re: Another piece of FOSS junk
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Le 18-05-2024, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
> On Sat, 18 May 2024 10:55:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Xviewer is the default with Mint, it works fine for basic opening of an
>> image, I dunno what all Larry was insinuating would be done with his
>> brokenware.
>
> Omage Viewer appears to be the Ubuntu default, Gwenview of the Fedora KDE
> spin. They work.

If the purpose is only to look at an image, feh is great. It's really
fast. When I need to use Gimp, I can see how Gimp is very slow to launch
compared with feh.

--
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Le 19-05-2024, Sebastian <sebastian@here.com.invalid> a écrit :
>
> Red Hat is the main company in the Linux community insisting that everything
> has to change in order to make Linux "modern."

They should start by providing up to date distros instead of obsolete by
design distros. Then I could start considering this claim seriously.

> Systemd was from them, and
> they also have a hand in Wayland, and usrmerge was their idea. They also have
> radical ideas that haven't been forced on the entire Linux community (yet),
> such as read-only rootfs, and image-based updates.

Their radical ideas haven't been forced on the entire Linux community.

For a start, when Poettering came with the idea of systemd, Red Hat, his
employer at the time told him it was bad. And so Poettering did it on
his own time and came back to his employer with the working product. And
only at this time did Red Hat decided to use it. And the other distros
decided to use it because it was good. Ubuntu tried to remove SysVInit
with upstart and were happy to switch to systemd when it was possible.

For the archlinux community, the reasons are listed there:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/4lzxs3/comment/d3rhxlc/?context=3>
It was not imposed by Read Hat it was a welcome change.

So stop believing the crap displayed by FR/DG/NV/LP/whatever and learn
what you are talking. Systemd wasn't a Red Hat idea and systemd wasn't
forced on any distro, it was happily embraced by the distros.

> They always export their radical ideas to all other distros,

Nonsense. They never imposed anything. Other embraced their ideas or not
but there is no imposition.

> and if this extends to small details like the availability of
> newsreaders, I'd expect to see them vanish from Debian and other
> distros before too long.

Nonsense. Once again. There is no relation between a radical idea and
the availability of a newsreader in the list of packages. If there is no
more use for a package, nobody will want to take care of it and it will
be removed. It's just that simple. And as usenet is a dying media, there
will be less and less use for a newsreader. There is no such thing as
Red Hat telling other distros which packages they must manage and which
one they shouldn't.

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Subject	Author
Another FOSS Gem	Farley Flud
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Joel
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	DFS
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	DFS
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Farley Flud
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Joel
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	DFS
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Joel
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	rbowman
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	candycanearter07
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Another piece of FOSS junk	candycanearter07
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Joel
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Sebastian
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	DFS
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Nux Vomica
Re: Another FOSS Gem	DFS
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	rbowman
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Joel
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	rbowman
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	rbowman
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	rbowman
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Joel
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Anti-FOSS Lunacy (was Re: Another FOSS Gem)	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
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Re: Another FOSS Gem	DFS
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Another FOSS Gem	vallor
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Re: Another FOSS Gem	vallor
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	vallor
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Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	RonB
Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	%
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Another FOSS Gem	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Another FOSS Gem	chrisv
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Re: Another FOSS Gem	rbowman
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Re: Another FOSS Gem	candycanearter07
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Re: Another FOSS Gem	candycanearter07