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* Study: Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $150 billion in just one year. The argumentJohn Smyth
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Subject: Study: Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $150 billion in just one year. The argument that illegal aliens pay taxes too is a lie.
From: John Smyth
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It took a study to figure this out?

'Study: Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $150 billion in just one year. The
argument that illegal aliens pay taxes too is a lie.'

<https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/08/study_illegal_aliens_cost_taxpayers_150_billion_in_just_one_year.html>

'One of the things that riles even those Americans who aren’t
politically inclined is seeing their tax dollars pay for illegal aliens’
education, housing, food, and medical care. When they raise these
concerns, though, they’re immediately told, “quit yer whining” because
even illegal aliens pay taxes and buy American products. The implication
is that the illegal aliens are paying their way. This is a lie.

According to leftist sites, illegal aliens are a net good to the
economy. Not only do “they do the jobs Americans won’t do,” but they are
also good taxpayers. According to a July report from the Institute on
Taxation and Economic Policy, illegal aliens pay lots of taxes, despite
being barred from accessing some of those programs into which they’re
paying:

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local
taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the
federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state
and local governments.
Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889
per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented
immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9
billion in additional tax revenue.
More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go
toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers
are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in
Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion
in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
[snip]

Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that
require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S.
citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving
meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed
due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or
insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
You can see here the whole list of financial benefits illegal aliens
graciously confer on America. The bottom line, though, is that these
illegal aliens are paying $96.7 billion in taxes. Wow! That’s so
awesome. They’re definitely making our economy stronger, right?

Well, maybe not. The problem is that they’re taking way more than
they’re giving. Per the New York Post:

The migrant crisis is more costly than Americans realize.

Last year, US taxpayers shelled out some $150 billion in government
services and support to help the 20 million illegal migrants in the
country, according to a study from the Federation for American
Immigration Reform (FAIR).

And most of the cost is being borne by state and local governments.

In Massachusetts, Republican leaders say there’s a $1 billion hole in
state coffers — and they’re accusing the Democrat-controlled government
of quietly siphoning off tax dollars to deal with the migrant crisis.

On Tuesday the state’s Republican party filed a Freedom of Information
Act request demanding Gov. Maura Healey release Massachusetts’ full
migrant budget, and alleging that the true cost has been hidden from the
public.

The Republicans need that FOIA request because FAIR thinks that the real
cost to Massachusetts taxpayers in 2023 was $3 billion, not just $1
billion.

FAIR’s calculations also indicate that New York State is cooking the
books. The state comptroller estimated that, by the end of 2025, illegal
aliens will have cost taxpayers $4.3 billion. However, in fiscal year
2024, NYC taxpayers alone coughed up $3 billion. FAIR, in turn, thinks
that New York State taxpayers shelled out around $10 billion for illegal
aliens in 2023.

The issue, of course, is how one accounts for the dollars spent.
According to states such as New York and Massachusetts, the only expense
is emergency food and housing. However, FAIR looks to other expenses
that are passed on to legal Americans:

Services like education, medical expenses, law enforcement, legal costs,
and welfare, were prominent factors FAIR looked at in their study.

Those, coupled with the differences in tax revenue compared to expenses,
helped contribute to the discrepancies between state reporting and the
estimated true cost of hosting migrants.

FAIR also included the costs of US-born children of illegal immigrants –
something many reports don’t factor in.

It’s a good essay and one well worth reading.

The point about law enforcement expenses is an important one. FAIR means
the cost of more police to control more crime. But there’s also the cost
of crime itself.

Just look at what’s happening in Aurora, Colorado, where Venezuelan
gangs are taking over whole communities. When a violent gang of illegal
aliens controls the community, that depresses property values, drives
out businesses, and impairs people’s ability to work. Each of these
factors decreases wealth and, by extension, tax revenues.

Just think of how Detroit was once a wealthy city that contributed to
America’s overall financial health. When its business base collapsed, it
became the “neediest” city in America. Turning cities into tax vacuums,
not tax generators, is a real cost, and illegal immigration is one of
the things driving that cost.

The expression “lies, damn lies, and statistics” originated in the 19th
century but still resonates today. Keep that expression in mind when
open-border Democrats tell you that those illegal aliens pouring in are
great for the American economy. That’s a statistic backed by phony
accounting and hides the truth about the serious drag illegal aliens
place on the economy and the money they take from all our pockets.

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Subject: Re: Study: Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $150 billion in just one year. The argument that illegal aliens pay taxes too is a lie.
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:41:03 -0400, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>'Study: Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $150 billion in just one year. The
>argument that illegal aliens pay taxes too is a lie.'

Seeing who posted it and where it came from, the lie is pretty much proven.

Repaint
<https://www.gocomics.com/drewsheneman/2024/07/24>

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Subject: Re: Study: Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $150 billion in just one year. The argument that illegal aliens pay taxes too is a lie.
From: Mitchell Holman
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Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:km52djpu6og23870dgh70mmp4t9l3ivk3j@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:41:03 -0400, John Smyth
> <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>'Study: Illegal aliens cost taxpayers $150 billion in just one year.
>>The argument that illegal aliens pay taxes too is a lie.'
>
> Seeing who posted it and where it came from, the lie is pretty much
> proven.

Even Texas quietly accepts the
proven benefits of illegal workers.

Economic benefits of illegal immigration
outweigh the costs,
May 18, 2020

The economic benefits of illegal immigration
are greater than the costs of the public
services utilized, according to an expert at
Rice University�s Baker Institute for Public
Policy.

Indeed, for every dollar the Texas state
government spends on public services for
undocumented immigrants, new research
indicates, the state collects $1.21 in
revenue.

"Undocumented residents have a positive
influence and impact on the economy,
since they pay taxes and fees and
constitute an important part of the labor
market. Even if we consider the costs of
undocumented immigrants to the state of
Texas, the benefits outweigh the costs."

In 2018, the year on which the report
is based, Texas had "an estimated
1.6 million undocumented residents,
representing 5.7% of the total state
population," according to the paper.
Those residents support the economy by
working in industries such as
construction, agriculture, manufacturing
and services � with an unemployment rate
of only 5.7% in the state, according to
the paper. They pay sales tax and
consumer taxes, such as on gasoline and
motor vehicle inspections.

In fiscal year 2018, Texas collected
$2.4 billion in state taxes from this
group.

"Like any other Texan, undocumented
immigrants pay sales and excise taxes
when they buy goods and services," he
wrote. "They pay property taxes on
their owned or rented houses. Other
payments that undocumented immigrants
make to the state are related to fees
and fines, tuition and utilities."

The analysis found that illegal
immigration cost Texas a total of
$2 billion in 2018 through education,
health care and incarceration costs.
These include costs associated with
public schools, higher education,
substance abuse services, immunizations
and emergency health care.

Rodr�guez-S�nchez also analyzed the
potential impact of deporting all such
residents from Texas. �In this case,
deportation would represent a shock to
the Texan economy,� he wrote.

"If all undocumented workers were
deported, Texas would lose more than
$41.9 billion in direct employment
compensation, defined as pretax salary
and wage earnings. The total lost would
be $70.3 billion, which represents a
reduction of 7.7% in state employment
compensation,� he wrote. �If even 20%
of this group were deported, the state
would lose approximately $8.4 billion
in direct employee compensation, and
the total impact would be $14 billion."

The report estimates that tax revenue
collected from such residents exceeded
what the state spent on them, resulting
in a net benefit of approximately
$420.9 million in fiscal year 2018.

"This means that for every dollar spent
on public services for undocumented
immigrants, they provide $1.21 in fiscal
revenue for the state of Texas,"
Rodriguez-Sanchez wrote.
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