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Subject: Study: Illegal Immigrants Bring Whopping $32 Billion in Tax Money - We Only Pay $182 Billion
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https://dailystormer.in/study-illegal-immigrants-bring-whopping-32-billion-in-tax-money-we-only-pay-182-billion/

Study: Illegal Immigrants Bring Whopping $32 Billion in Tax Money - We Only
Pay $182 Billion

Andrew Anglin
August 29, 2024

Racists are so filled with virulent hatred for the color of the skin, they
can't even process the fact that these immigrants are great for America's
economy.

They only cost us $182 billion a year in taxpayer funds. Meanwhile, they pay
a whopping $32 billion in taxes.

It's easy math.

New York Post:
https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/us-news/the-150-billion-problem-cost-of-migrant-crisis-to-us-taxpayers-could-be-billions-higher-than-reported-expenses-in-many-states/

> The migrant crisis is more costly than Americans realize.
>
> Last year, US taxpayers shelled out some $150 billion in government
> services and support to help the 20 million illegal migrants in the
> country, according to a study from the Federation for American Immigration
> Reform (FAIR).
>
> And most of the cost is being borne by state and local governments.
>
> See: Massachusetts Republicans Want Detailed Breakdown of State's $1
> Billion "Secret" Migrant Spending
>
> In New York, the comptroller estimated that the migrant crisis will cost
> state taxpayers $4.3 billion through 2025, and New York City taxpayers $3
> billion in fiscal year 2024 alone.
>
> However, according to FAIR's estimates, the estimated 1.45 million illegal
> migrants and children in the state already cost taxpayers nearly $10
> billion in 2023.
>
> While most states' accounts of migrant expenses focus on emergency housing
> and aid, FAIR's assessment factored in the full breadth of state services
> they draw on while in the US.
>
> Services like education, medical expenses, law enforcement, legal costs
> and welfare were prominent factors FAIR looked at in its study.
>
> Those, coupled with the differences in tax revenue compared to expenses,
> helped contribute to the discrepancies between state reporting and the
> estimated true cost of hosting migrants.
>
> FAIR also included the costs of US-born children of illegal immigrants --
> something many reports don't factor in.
>
> Half of US states were estimated to have shelled out in excess of $100
> million, while the bill for 19 reaches well over $1 billion.
>
> California led the country with expenses of nearly $31 billion to take
> care of illegal immigrants and their children, according to FAIR's study.
>
> Texas followed at more than $13 billion; Florida clocked in at more than
> $8 billion; then New York and New Jersey.
>
> The total outlay by American taxpayers was even higher, according to
> estimates from FAIR, at $182 billion.
>
> However, illegal migrants do pay taxes -- and FAIR estimated their
> contributions to local, state and federal treasuries came to about $32
> billion.
>
> However, that still left $150 billion in costs that American taxpayers
> were saddled with, FAIR estimated.

Oh. So we do loose $150 billion a year with immigrants.

Okay, well. That doesn't mean anything. It's still good for our economy,
because of the GDP, for some reason.

And anyway you can't put a price on diversity. It's our greatest strength.
Tens of millions of poor people and criminals leeching off of the taxpayer
make us much stronger. Since the Biden Administration fully opened the
border, we've gotten only stronger and stronger.

At this point, America's back might break under the weight of all of this
strength.

And besides: the immigrants share our values.

Why else would they come to America, other than that they share our values?

They came here for $150 billion in free money?

Not likely.

They love America because it is the greatest country ever.

Subject: Re: Study: Illegal Immigrants Bring Whopping $32 Billion in Tax Money - We Only Pay $182 Billion
From: Joel
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Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:

>Racists are so filled with virulent hatred for the color of the skin, they
>can't even process the fact that these immigrants are great for America's
>economy.
>
>They only cost us $182 billion a year in taxpayer funds. Meanwhile, they pay
>a whopping $32 billion in taxes.
>
>It's easy math.
>
>Oh. So we do loose $150 billion a year with immigrants.
>
>Okay, well. That doesn't mean anything. It's still good for our economy,
>because of the GDP, for some reason.
>
>And anyway you can't put a price on diversity. It's our greatest strength.
>Tens of millions of poor people and criminals leeching off of the taxpayer
>make us much stronger. Since the Biden Administration fully opened the
>border, we've gotten only stronger and stronger.
>
>At this point, America's back might break under the weight of all of this
>strength.
>
>And besides: the immigrants share our values.
>
>Why else would they come to America, other than that they share our values?
>
>They came here for $150 billion in free money?
>
>Not likely.
>
>They love America because it is the greatest country ever.

Your sarcasm is amusing, but it's laughable to think that right-wing
policy on the border is something to vote for, who the fuck cares,
it's just DJT's red herring, to get white nationalist-ish people to
vote. If that's you, OK, but it ain't me. I'm not for mining rivers
with razor wire, or some crap. I'm not crying about the supposed
cost, of the migrants. Try being human.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Study: Illegal Immigrants Bring Whopping $32 Billion in Tax Money - We Only Pay $182 Billion
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:28:36 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
>
>>Racists are so filled with virulent hatred for the color of the skin, they
>>can't even process the fact that these immigrants are great for America's
>>economy.
>>
>>They only cost us $182 billion a year in taxpayer funds. Meanwhile, they pay
>>a whopping $32 billion in taxes.
>>
>>It's easy math.
>>
>>Oh. So we do loose $150 billion a year with immigrants.
>>
>>Okay, well. That doesn't mean anything. It's still good for our economy,
>>because of the GDP, for some reason.
>>
>>And anyway you can't put a price on diversity. It's our greatest strength.
>>Tens of millions of poor people and criminals leeching off of the taxpayer
>>make us much stronger. Since the Biden Administration fully opened the
>>border, we've gotten only stronger and stronger.
>>
>>At this point, America's back might break under the weight of all of this
>>strength.
>>
>>And besides: the immigrants share our values.
>>
>>Why else would they come to America, other than that they share our values?
>>
>>They came here for $150 billion in free money?
>>
>>Not likely.
>>
>>They love America because it is the greatest country ever.
>
>
>Your sarcasm is amusing, but it's laughable to think that right-wing
>policy on the border is something to vote for, who the fuck cares,
>it's just DJT's red herring, to get white nationalist-ish people to
>vote. If that's you, OK, but it ain't me. I'm not for mining rivers
>with razor wire, or some crap. I'm not crying about the supposed
>cost, of the migrants. Try being human.

Well, if we ID'd them and put them on the grid when they came in, they'd be
paying more in taxes.

Oh, one other thing, they keep food costs down as well as other business labor
costs.

Wanna know the value of migrant labor?

Ask the US Chamber of Commerce

"Ukrainian Air Defenses Shoot Down Russian Su-34 Bomber in Kursk Region"
<https://www.kyivpost.com/post/37392>

--
#NEVERtrump

Subject: Re: Study: Illegal Immigrants Bring Whopping $32 Billion in Tax Money - We Only Pay $182 Billion
From: Lil dwarf Rudey
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Governor Swill wrote:
> Here is the News

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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