1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.

2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.

3. Regulation Cuts.

4. Tax Cuts.

5. Rebalance Trade.

6. Stop illegal Immigration.

7. End Destabilzing Wars.

So where is Kamala Harris's plan?
Her website seems to be nothing but multiple donate here buttons.

John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>
>2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>
>3. Regulation Cuts.
>
>4. Tax Cuts.
>
>5. Rebalance Trade.
>
>6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>
>7. End Destabilzing Wars.

What possesses you to think that this nationalist bullshit will work
in a global economy, dummy? That's what you MAGA people don't get,
not all of the world is rural America, not even urban America is such.

>So where is Kamala Harris's plan?
>Her website seems to be nothing but multiple donate here buttons.

Her plan is to keep the ship afloat, something DJT will surely not do.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-08-28, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>
>>2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>
>>3. Regulation Cuts.
>>
>>4. Tax Cuts.
>>
>>5. Rebalance Trade.
>>
>>6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>
>>7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>
>
> What possesses you to think that this nationalist bullshit will work
> in a global economy, dummy? That's what you MAGA people don't get,
> not all of the world is rural America, not even urban America is such.

Because similar policies worked during Trump's first term.
You do realize that energy independence affects the globe.
Or maybe you don't.
Housing prices just hit an all time high and are completely unaffordable for most.
Read here to see how Biden & Harris helped cause this.

<https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/28/nolte-record-high-harris-biden-create-most-
unaffordable-housing-market-history/>
>
>>So where is Kamala Harris's plan?
>>Her website seems to be nothing but multiple donate here buttons.
>
>
> Her plan is to keep the ship afloat, something DJT will surely not do.

Keep the ship afloat?
After she and Biden torpedoed it?
She's had 3.5 years to fix it. So what has she done?
Same for the border BTW.
You must be an idiot to support Kamala.

--
Charlie Glock
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
- Thomas Jefferson 1776

On 8/28/2024 4:20 PM, John Smyth wrote:
> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.

Could help, but at a long-term cost.

> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.

The "waste" is in the noise. Bromide

> 3. Regulation Cuts.

Perhaps could increase supply (or not), but no details, more bromide.

> 4. Tax Cuts.

That spurs inflation (increases demand).

> 5. Rebalance Trade.

Tariffs? That spurs inflation.

> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.

Not relevant.

> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.

Oil prices? Iran comes to mind, but the Middle East remains only at
proxy-war level.

On 2024-08-29, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/2024 4:20 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>
> Could help, but at a long-term cost.

Nobody is saying to abandon renewable energy but don't shutdown fossil fuel production until we
have viable alternatives and truly accurate studies that determine the true impact of fossil fuels
and man on the environment.
Right now we have nothing of the sort.

And how does it make sense for th US to close down fossil fuel operations just to buy oil etc from
other countries?
Really?
That is not only embarrassing but it's dangerous and massively ignorant.

>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>
> The "waste" is in the noise. Bromide

Wrong.
Printing money and spending it like crazy on idiotic programs like DEI for example causes inflation
to rise.

>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>
> Perhaps could increase supply (or not), but no details, more bromide.

Nope.
Excess regulations raises prices and thus the cost to the consumer. It also stunts innovation and
product development.
The democrats thrive on regulation, many of them overbearing and useless.
Right now California is like one huge HOA run by a team of Karens.
That's one reason why businesses and people as well are leaving the state.

>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>
> That spurs inflation (increases demand).

Tell it to Kamala then.
It's part of her plan even though we have been hearing tax cuts for the middle class from the
democrats for decades.
More money in the people's pocket means more spending and purchasing.

>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>
> Tariffs? That spurs inflation.

Fair competition.
Compete on an even keel and we can all do well.
Devalue your currency, like China, and flood the market and we have a problem.
And just wait until cheap EV begin flooding the US. If Kamala is in office she will probably
welcome each one with a big blue ribbon stuck to the hood. And of course China will also be very
happy to sell us the raw materials to manufacture batteries, solar panels and so forth as well.
It's a variation on the give them the razor cheap and gouge them on the blades.
They are shrewd and Biden and his lackeys are idiots.

>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>
> Not relevant.

Are you kidding?

Do you have any idea how much illegal immigration is costing the country?
Where is this money coming from?
They can only tax the legal citizens so much and at some point, like all socialist regimes, they
will run out of people who can pay the bills.

>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>
> Oil prices? Iran comes to mind, but the Middle East remains only at
> proxy-war level.

We need to stop financing our enemies just so they can buy armaments and fire them back at us.
Under Trump Iran was pretty much bankrupt and in a box.
Biden comes along, unfreezes assests, relaxes their ability to sell oil and look what happened.
They are now behind the proxy wars.
Yet another moronic decision by the Biden administration.

We need to end these wars.
Settle them once and for all.
The cost is draining our economy and is putting us in grave danger due to depletion of our own
weapons.

The bottom line is Joe Biden was handed a country that considering COVID, was recovering quite well
and he screwed it up.
Every decision he has made has caused more harm than good and if Kamala Harris somehow manages to
get elected we will be sunk.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris Is A Marxist
Tampon Tim Walz Is A Radical Left Wing Nutjob
They Are A Match Made In Heaven

Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>On 2024-08-28, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>>
>>>2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>>
>>>3. Regulation Cuts.
>>>
>>>4. Tax Cuts.
>>>
>>>5. Rebalance Trade.
>>>
>>>6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>>
>>>7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>>
>> What possesses you to think that this nationalist bullshit will work
>> in a global economy, dummy? That's what you MAGA people don't get,
>> not all of the world is rural America, not even urban America is such.
>
>Because similar policies worked during Trump's first term.

Did they? For whom?

>You do realize that energy independence affects the globe.
>Or maybe you don't.
>Housing prices just hit an all time high and are completely unaffordable for most.
>Read here to see how Biden & Harris helped cause this.
>
><https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/28/nolte-record-high-harris-biden-create-most-
>unaffordable-housing-market-history/>

Uninterested in Breitbart's spew.

>>>So where is Kamala Harris's plan?
>>>Her website seems to be nothing but multiple donate here buttons.
>>
>> Her plan is to keep the ship afloat, something DJT will surely not do.
>
>Keep the ship afloat?
>After she and Biden torpedoed it?
>She's had 3.5 years to fix it. So what has she done?
>Same for the border BTW.
>You must be an idiot to support Kamala.

There's no crisis that we can't handle. DJT is just trying to say
otherwise, because it fits his presentation. He has to have some big
reason why we would need the change back, to him.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 8/28/2024 5:41 PM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-08-29, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 8/28/2024 4:20 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>
>> Could help, but at a long-term cost.
>
> Nobody is saying to abandon renewable energy but don't shutdown fossil fuel production until we
> have viable alternatives and truly accurate studies that determine the true impact of fossil fuels
> and man on the environment.
> Right now we have nothing of the sort.
>
> And how does it make sense for th US to close down fossil fuel operations just to buy oil etc from
> other countries?
> Really?
> That is not only embarrassing but it's dangerous and massively ignorant.
>
>
>>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>
>> The "waste" is in the noise. Bromide
>
> Wrong.
> Printing money and spending it like crazy on idiotic programs like DEI for example causes inflation
> to rise.

How much of the budget is spent on DEI?

>>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>>
>> Perhaps could increase supply (or not), but no details, more bromide.
>
> Nope.
> Excess regulations raises prices and thus the cost to the consumer. It also stunts innovation and
> product development.
> The democrats thrive on regulation, many of them overbearing and useless.
> Right now California is like one huge HOA run by a team of Karens.
> That's one reason why businesses and people as well are leaving the state.

No details means it is bromide (and we can't evaluate its impact).

>>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>>
>> That spurs inflation (increases demand).
>
> Tell it to Kamala then.
> It's part of her plan even though we have been hearing tax cuts for the middle class from the
> democrats for decades.
> More money in the people's pocket means more spending and purchasing.

More demand pushes prices up.

>>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>>
>> Tariffs? That spurs inflation.
>
> Fair competition.
> Compete on an even keel and we can all do well.
> Devalue your currency, like China, and flood the market and we have a problem.
> And just wait until cheap EV begin flooding the US. If Kamala is in office she will probably
> welcome each one with a big blue ribbon stuck to the hood. And of course China will also be very
> happy to sell us the raw materials to manufacture batteries, solar panels and so forth as well.
> It's a variation on the give them the razor cheap and gouge them on the blades.
> They are shrewd and Biden and his lackeys are idiots.

Fair competition or not, it's inflationary.

>>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>
>> Not relevant.
>
> Are you kidding?
>
> Do you have any idea how much illegal immigration is costing the country?
> Where is this money coming from?
> They can only tax the legal citizens so much and at some point, like all socialist regimes, they
> will run out of people who can pay the bills.

Tell us, how much does illegal immigration cost the country. Don't
forget to include the production from and taxes paid by unauthorized
workers.

>>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>>
>> Oil prices? Iran comes to mind, but the Middle East remains only at
>> proxy-war level.
>
> We need to stop financing our enemies just so they can buy armaments and fire them back at us.
> Under Trump Iran was pretty much bankrupt and in a box.
> Biden comes along, unfreezes assests, relaxes their ability to sell oil and look what happened.
> They are now behind the proxy wars.
> Yet another moronic decision by the Biden administration.
>
> We need to end these wars.
> Settle them once and for all.
> The cost is draining our economy and is putting us in grave danger due to depletion of our own
> weapons.

How do we end the wars?

On 2024-08-29, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/2024 5:41 PM, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-08-29, Josh Rosenbluth <nowa>>>> Haven't heard a lot about that dead person either. MAGA
is far more worried
>>>> about the election than about any innocent bystander.y@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/28/2024 4:20 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>>
>>> Could help, but at a long-term cost.
>>
>> Nobody is saying to abandon renewable energy but don't shutdown fossil fuel production until we
>> have viable alternatives and truly accurate studies that determine the true impact of fossil fuels
>> and man on the environment.
>> Right now we have nothing of the sort.
>>
>> And how does it make sense for th US to close down fossil fuel operations just to buy oil etc from
>> other countries?
>> Really?
>> That is not only embarrassing but it's dangerous and massively ignorant.
>>
>>
>>>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>>
>>> The "waste" is in the noise. Bromide
>>
>> Wrong.
>> Printing money and spending it like crazy on idiotic programs like DEI for example causes inflation
>> to rise.
>
> How much of the budget is spent on DEI?
>
>>>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>>>
>>> Perhaps could increase supply (or not), but no details, more bromide.
>>
>> Nope.
>> Excess regulations raises prices and thus the cost to the consumer. It also stunts innovation and
>> product development.
>> The democrats thrive on regulation, many of them overbearing and useless.
>> Right now California is like one huge HOA run by a team of Karens.
>> That's one reason why businesses and people as well are leaving the state.
>
> No details means it is bromide (and we can't evaluate its impact).
>
>>>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>>>
>>> That spurs inflation (increases demand).
>>
>> Tell it to Kamala then.
>> It's part of her plan even though we have been hearing tax cuts for the middle class from the
>> democrats for decades.
>> More money in the people's pocket means more spending and purchasing.
>
> More demand pushes prices up.
>
>>>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>>>
>>> Tariffs? That spurs inflation.
>>
>> Fair competition.
>> Compete on an even keel and we can all do well.
>> Devalue your currency, like China, and flood the market and we have a problem.
>> And just wait until cheap EV begin flooding the US. If Kamala is in office she will probably
>> welcome each one with a big blue ribbon stuck to the hood. And of course China will also be very
>> happy to sell us the raw materials to manufacture batteries, solar panels and so forth as well.
>> It's a variation on the give them the razor cheap and gouge them on the blades.
>> They are shrewd and Biden and his lackeys are idiots.
>
> Fair competition or not, it's inflationary.
>
>>>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>>
>>> Not relevant.
>>
>> Are you kidding?
>>
>> Do you have any idea how much illegal immigration is costing the country?
>> Where is this money coming from?
>> They can only tax the legal citizens so much and at some point, like all socialist regimes, they
>> will run out of people who can pay the bills.
>
> Tell us, how much does illegal immigration cost the country. Don't
> forget to include the production from and taxes paid by unauthorized
> workers.
>
>>>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>>>
>>> Oil prices? Iran comes to mind, but the Middle East remains only at
>>> proxy-war level.
>>
>> We need to stop financing our enemies just so they can buy armaments and fire them back at us.
>> Under Trump Iran was pretty much bankrupt and in a box.
>> Biden comes along, unfreezes assests, relaxes their ability to sell oil and look what happened.
>> They are now behind the proxy wars.
>> Yet another moronic decision by the Biden administration.
>>
>> We need to end these wars.
>> Settle them once and for all.
>> The cost is draining our economy and is putting us in grave danger due to depletion of our own
>> weapons.
>
> How do we end the wars?

We agree to disagree.
Let's leave it at that.
I've stated my points and you can agree or disagree.
Either is fine.
--
pothead
Kamala Harris Is A Marxist
Tampon Tim Walz Is A Radical Left Wing Nutjob
They Are A Match Made In Heaven

John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:uubvcjlhbf35ci78pejilbqj75g5nskrp2@4ax.com:

> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>

Trump Bans Oil Drilling Off
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina
Sept 9 2020
https://tinyurl.com/3tfn3tvj

Trump extends drilling ban off
North Carolina, Virginia
Sept 25, 2020
https://tinyurl.com/239u3bf6

> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>

Federal spending went up every
year under Trump.

> 3. Regulation Cuts.

Except all the regulations
Republicans want.

>
> 4. Tax Cuts.
>

Deficit explodes.

> 5. Rebalance Trade.

By shipping more jobs overseas,
Trump-style

>
> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.

Why did't Trump do that the first time?

>
> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.

By playing nice with all the
dictators who start them.

"Putin denied it, I trust him"

>
>John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>
>>2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>
>>3. Regulation Cuts.
>>
>>4. Tax Cuts.
>>
>>5. Rebalance Trade.
>>
>>6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>
>>7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>
>
>What possesses you to think that this nationalist bullshit will work
>in a global economy, dummy? That's what you MAGA people don't get,
>not all of the world is rural America, not even urban America is such.

It's the same old shit that tRUMP did before, leaving $9 Trillion in debt
and the economy in shambles for Biden to fix.

>Printing money and spending it like crazy on idiotic programs like DEI
>for example causes inflation to rise.

Trump's DEI broke the economy and gave us COVID and soaring inflation.

Read Breitbart.

Thank God he's going to end his days behind bars like a traitor and a Felon
deserves.

Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:uubvcjlhbf35ci78pejilbqj75g5nskrp2@4ax.com:
>
>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>
> Trump Bans Oil Drilling Off
> Florida, Georgia, South Carolina
> Sept 9 2020
> https://tinyurl.com/3tfn3tvj
>
> Trump extends drilling ban off
> North Carolina, Virginia
> Sept 25, 2020
> https://tinyurl.com/239u3bf6
>
>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>
> Federal spending went up every
>year under Trump.
>
>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>
> Except all the regulations
>Republicans want.
>
>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>
> Deficit explodes.
>
>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>
> By shipping more jobs overseas,
>Trump-style
>
>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>
> Why did't Trump do that the first time?
>
>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>
> By playing nice with all the
>dictators who start them.
>
> "Putin denied it, I trust him"

Yup, Trump is just snake oil, with his claims of preventing WWIII.
Kamala will steer the ship properly, no one denies it's a cataclysmal
period we're in, but the Democrats aren't weak, it's why numerous
Republicans are on our side in this, against DJT. We are the only
coalition with a non-dystopian vision. "Make America Great Again"?!
Says who, Donald? What was so "great" about the $2 Bacon McDouble, or
whatever, sir? Your economy isn't magic except for those who directly
benefit from it, which is admittedly a sector I care about a lot, the
working, blue collar industries in the U.S., no one denies that it
matters, but it isn't the center of everything in a global economic
environment.

And their use of deficits tells the real story, they're not
"conservative", they're right-wing, there's a difference. Right-wing
can enable whatever crazy scheme is cooked up by a think tank, to get
us into more debt. Democrats have the record of countering that.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

>How much of the budget is spent on DEI?

Trump says a billion, trillion dollars. But he spent more on Woke.

On 2024-08-29, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>news:uubvcjlhbf35ci78pejilbqj75g5nskrp2@4ax.com:
>>
>>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>
>> Trump Bans Oil Drilling Off
>> Florida, Georgia, South Carolina
>> Sept 9 2020
>> https://tinyurl.com/3tfn3tvj
>>
>> Trump extends drilling ban off
>> North Carolina, Virginia
>> Sept 25, 2020
>> https://tinyurl.com/239u3bf6
>>
>>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>
>> Federal spending went up every
>>year under Trump.
>>
>>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>>
>> Except all the regulations
>>Republicans want.
>>
>>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>>
>> Deficit explodes.
>>
>>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>>
>> By shipping more jobs overseas,
>>Trump-style
>>
>>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>
>> Why did't Trump do that the first time?
>>
>>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>>
>> By playing nice with all the
>>dictators who start them.
>>
>> "Putin denied it, I trust him"
>
>
> Yup, Trump is just snake oil, with his claims of preventing WWIII.
> Kamala will steer the ship properly, no one denies it's a cataclysmal
> period we're in, but the Democrats aren't weak, it's why numerous
> Republicans are on our side in this, against DJT. We are the only
> coalition with a non-dystopian vision. "Make America Great Again"?!
> Says who, Donald? What was so "great" about the $2 Bacon McDouble, or
> whatever, sir? Your economy isn't magic except for those who directly
> benefit from it, which is admittedly a sector I care about a lot, the
> working, blue collar industries in the U.S., no one denies that it
> matters, but it isn't the center of everything in a global economic
> environment.
>
> And their use of deficits tells the real story, they're not
> "conservative", they're right-wing, there's a difference. Right-wing
> can enable whatever crazy scheme is cooked up by a think tank, to get
> us into more debt. Democrats have the record of countering that.
>

1. It's a cataclysmal period we are in due to Biden/Harris.
2. Harris has had 4 years to work with Biden to fix it. She has done nothing.
3. Blue collar industries? the move to EV is not helping anyone at that level. Just because the
leaders of a particular union support a candidate doesn't mean the rank and file support the same
candidate. Hint: autoworkers despise Biden. Do the research.

So where are all of these green energy jobs that Biden/Harris promised would appear after he
cancelled say the Keystone pipeline? According the Biden and Hillary as well, we should have
programmers making 6 figure salaries all over the place.
Hint: China mining raw materials ie: lithium etc for batteries.

You libbys are so darn ignorant.
You hate Trump so much you go delusional.

Take your TDS infected tinfoil hat off for a second and think about this. Are you HONESTLY, and
this means YOU, better under Biden than you were under Trump.

And if so, SPECIFICALLY how?

The reason I ask is that I have not encountered a single person who can say YES and then tell me
SPECIFICALLY how.

Maybe you can.

Ball is in your court Joel.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris Is A Marxist
Tampon Tim Walz Is A Radical Left Wing Nutjob
They Are A Match Made In Heaven

On 8/28/2024 8:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>
> Take your TDS infected tinfoil hat off for a second and think about this. Are you HONESTLY, and
> this means YOU, better under Biden than you were under Trump.
>
> And if so, SPECIFICALLY how?

We no longer have a president who tried to steal an election and block
the peaceful transition of power. And yes, that makes me and the entire
country much, much better off.

On 2024-08-29, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/2024 8:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>
>> Take your TDS infected tinfoil hat off for a second and think about this. Are you HONESTLY, and
>> this means YOU, better under Biden than you were under Trump.
>>
>> And if so, SPECIFICALLY how?
>
> We no longer have a president who tried to steal an election and block
> the peaceful transition of power. And yes, that makes me and the entire
> country much, much better off.

Oh Jesus, come on already.
All Trump was doing was trying to challenge an election that stank of corruption.
Sure there were people who went overboard destroying property and so forth and they should be
prosecuted but you simply cannot tie Trump to any of that so stop parroting the MSM.
And BTW evidence comes out almost daily that the 2020 election was not honest.

So assume that matters to you, how are you better off?

Food prices?
Interest rates?
World wars?
Etc.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris Is A Marxist
Tampon Tim Walz Is A Radical Left Wing Nutjob
They Are A Match Made In Heaven

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>> Trump is just snake oil, with his claims of preventing WWIII.
>> Kamala will steer the ship properly, no one denies it's a cataclysmal
>> period we're in, but the Democrats aren't weak, it's why numerous
>> Republicans are on our side in this, against DJT. We are the only
>> coalition with a non-dystopian vision. "Make America Great Again"?!
>> Says who, Donald? What was so "great" about the $2 Bacon McDouble, or
>> whatever, sir? Your economy isn't magic except for those who directly
>> benefit from it, which is admittedly a sector I care about a lot, the
>> working, blue collar industries in the U.S., no one denies that it
>> matters, but it isn't the center of everything in a global economic
>> environment.
>>
>> And their use of deficits tells the real story, they're not
>> "conservative", they're right-wing, there's a difference. Right-wing
>> can enable whatever crazy scheme is cooked up by a think tank, to get
>> us into more debt. Democrats have the record of countering that.
>
>1. It's a cataclysmal period we are in due to Biden/Harris.
>2. Harris has had 4 years to work with Biden to fix it. She has done nothing.
>3. Blue collar industries? the move to EV is not helping anyone at that level. Just because the
>leaders of a particular union support a candidate doesn't mean the rank and file support the same
>candidate. Hint: autoworkers despise Biden. Do the research.
>
>So where are all of these green energy jobs that Biden/Harris promised would appear after he
>cancelled say the Keystone pipeline? According the Biden and Hillary as well, we should have
>programmers making 6 figure salaries all over the place.
>Hint: China mining raw materials ie: lithium etc for batteries.
>
>You libbys are so darn ignorant.
>You hate Trump so much you go delusional.
>
>Take your TDS infected tinfoil hat off for a second and think about this. Are you HONESTLY, and
>this means YOU, better under Biden than you were under Trump.
>
>And if so, SPECIFICALLY how?
>
>The reason I ask is that I have not encountered a single person who can say YES and then tell me
>SPECIFICALLY how.
>
>Maybe you can.
>
>Ball is in your court Joel.

I can tell you: I live in a blue part of a blue state. We're better
off, because our guy won. That's what this is really about, the fact
that we can't go in both directions at once. Trump is not just a
threat to some people's economics, though, but to democracy itself. I
don't accept that he's fit to be a dictator, nor that we'd accept that
vision of it to begin with, it's nothing but his greed for power, and
people's stupidity in wanting him to have it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Aug 28, 2024 at 9:30:26 PM MST, "Josh Rosenbluth" wrote
<vaoth3$3rcnu$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 8/28/2024 8:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>
>> Take your TDS infected tinfoil hat off for a second and think about this. Are
>> you HONESTLY, and
>> this means YOU, better under Biden than you were under Trump.
>>
>> And if so, SPECIFICALLY how?
>
> We no longer have a president who tried to steal an election and block
> the peaceful transition of power. And yes, that makes me and the entire
> country much, much better off.

Absolutely. And we no longer have a president who has been legally held
accountable for sexual assault. Nor one with many felony convictions.

How is this even a question? LOL!

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2024-08-29, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>> Trump is just snake oil, with his claims of preventing WWIII.
>>> Kamala will steer the ship properly, no one denies it's a cataclysmal
>>> period we're in, but the Democrats aren't weak, it's why numerous
>>> Republicans are on our side in this, against DJT. We are the only
>>> coalition with a non-dystopian vision. "Make America Great Again"?!
>>> Says who, Donald? What was so "great" about the $2 Bacon McDouble, or
>>> whatever, sir? Your economy isn't magic except for those who directly
>>> benefit from it, which is admittedly a sector I care about a lot, the
>>> working, blue collar industries in the U.S., no one denies that it
>>> matters, but it isn't the center of everything in a global economic
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> And their use of deficits tells the real story, they're not
>>> "conservative", they're right-wing, there's a difference. Right-wing
>>> can enable whatever crazy scheme is cooked up by a think tank, to get
>>> us into more debt. Democrats have the record of countering that.
>>
>>1. It's a cataclysmal period we are in due to Biden/Harris.
>>2. Harris has had 4 years to work with Biden to fix it. She has done nothing.
>>3. Blue collar industries? the move to EV is not helping anyone at that level. Just because the
>>leaders of a particular union support a candidate doesn't mean the rank and file support the same
>>candidate. Hint: autoworkers despise Biden. Do the research.
>>
>>So where are all of these green energy jobs that Biden/Harris promised would appear after he
>>cancelled say the Keystone pipeline? According the Biden and Hillary as well, we should have
>>programmers making 6 figure salaries all over the place.
>>Hint: China mining raw materials ie: lithium etc for batteries.
>>
>>You libbys are so darn ignorant.
>>You hate Trump so much you go delusional.
>>
>>Take your TDS infected tinfoil hat off for a second and think about this. Are you HONESTLY, and
>>this means YOU, better under Biden than you were under Trump.
>>
>>And if so, SPECIFICALLY how?
>>
>>The reason I ask is that I have not encountered a single person who can say YES and then tell me
>>SPECIFICALLY how.
>>
>>Maybe you can.
>>
>>Ball is in your court Joel.
>
>
> I can tell you: I live in a blue part of a blue state. We're better
> off, because our guy won. That's what this is really about, the fact
> that we can't go in both directions at once. Trump is not just a
> threat to some people's economics, though, but to democracy itself. I
> don't accept that he's fit to be a dictator, nor that we'd accept that
> vision of it to begin with, it's nothing but his greed for power, and
> people's stupidity in wanting him to have it.
>

So you can give no specifics.
Ok I get it.
You are just another low information TDS infected voter.

--
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Kamala Harris Is A Marxist
Tampon Tim Walz Is A Radical Left Wing Nutjob
They Are A Match Made In Heaven

On 29/08/2024 00:35, Joel wrote:
> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>
>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>
>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>>
>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>>
>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>>
>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>
>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>
>
> What possesses you to think that this nationalist bullshit will work
> in a global economy, dummy? That's what you MAGA people don't get,
> not all of the world is rural America, not even urban America is such.
>
>
>> So where is Kamala Harris's plan?
>> Her website seems to be nothing but multiple donate here buttons.
>
>
> Her plan is to keep the ship afloat, something DJT will surely not do.

God Bless America! 😊

On 28 Aug 2024 23:59:39 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-08-28, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>>
>>>2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>>
>>>3. Regulation Cuts.
>>>
>>>4. Tax Cuts.
>>>
>>>5. Rebalance Trade.
>>>
>>>6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>>
>>>7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>>
>>
>> What possesses you to think that this nationalist bullshit will work
>> in a global economy, dummy? That's what you MAGA people don't get,
>> not all of the world is rural America, not even urban America is such.
>
>Because similar policies worked during Trump's first term.

No, actually, they didn't. We entered a manufacturing recession under Trump and
the economy was slowing toward in 2019 - before the pandemic.

>You do realize that energy independence affects the globe.

That was achieved on the work of Bush and Obama.

>Or maybe you don't.
>Housing prices just hit an all time high and are completely unaffordable for most.

Yet you RINOs bragged about housing recovery during Trump's term.

>Read here to see how Biden & Harris helped cause this.
>
><https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/28/nolte-record-high-harris-biden-create-most-
>unaffordable-housing-market-history/>

They helped cause this by allowing corporate land owners to snap up the slack in
the housing market at premium prices after Trump became President.

>>>So where is Kamala Harris's plan?
>>>Her website seems to be nothing but multiple donate here buttons.
>>
>>
>> Her plan is to keep the ship afloat, something DJT will surely not do.
>
>Keep the ship afloat?
>After she and Biden torpedoed it?

The torpedoes were launched by Trump and we are not going to give him a chance
to do it again.

>She's had 3.5 years to fix it. So what has she done?

Her job as Vice President does not include setting or enforcing Executive policy
nor does it involve passing legislation. Perhaps if the MAGA nitwits weren't
being so obstructive and were more interested in governing than power grabbing,
Congress might have been able to pass legislation.

As it is, we'll just have to depend on the prosperity the Biden years have
brought us.

>Same for the border BTW.
>You must be an idiot to support Kamala.

Not as much an idiot as you are to support Trump. And if you don't like the
idea of Harris for President, you have only yourselves to blame for running that
fat, orange asshole you claim is a human being.

"As said, 102 Russian servicemen were captured in this group by servicemen of
the Security Service of Ukraine. The captured Russian military are said to be
from the 488th Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment and the Akhmat unit."
<https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1823989061536620789>

"Conscripts From Kursk Forced to Become More Cannon Fodder"
<https://www.kyivpost.com/post/37383>

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"Of all the things that I hated about my childhood, nothing
compared to the revolving door of father figures." -- JD Vance

#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:01:55 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On 8/28/2024 4:20 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>
>Could help, but at a long-term cost.

Won't help at all. Oil is a global commodity. If we drill more, they drill
less to keep the price/profit levels up. We saw this during the pandemic when
Trump worked with Bin Salman and Putin to cut their oil production in order to
force oil prices UP.

>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.

A mere placebo. Waste is nothing compared to total deficits and is far less
than the money lost to tax cuts for the rich.

>The "waste" is in the noise. Bromide
>
>> 3. Regulation Cuts.

Dangerous to the public. I like clean air and water. I like safe, effective
medicines, clean and pure food and business held accountable.

>Perhaps could increase supply (or not), but no details, more bromide.
>
>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>
>That spurs inflation (increases demand).

If Reagan had left taxes alone, inflation would have ended in 1982, not peaked.

>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>
>Tariffs? That spurs inflation.

It also costs jobs as retaliatory tariffs from other nations cuts into our
exports.

You can't rebalance trade with tariffs. You can only rebalance trade by
producing superior products at lower cost and/or by devaluing the dollar with
would bring back the inflation monster.

>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>
>Not relevant.
>
>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.

What wars?

>Oil prices? Iran comes to mind, but the Middle East remains only at
>proxy-war level.

And that, too, is Trump's fault. The west was on the path of normalizing
relations with Iran and putting the brakes on their nuclear program until Trump
screwed it up.

"Hundreds of Russians who have refused to fight for various reasons – age,
sickness, mental health – are reported to have been taken from a military base
where they were being held and flown to Kursk, where they will likely be used in
efforts to repel Ukraine's incursion."
<https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1823860031223386532>

--
"Of all the things that I hated about my childhood, nothing
compared to the revolving door of father figures." -- JD Vance

#NEVERtrump

On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 01:19:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2024-08-29, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 8/28/2024 5:41 PM, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-29, Josh Rosenbluth <nowa>>>> Haven't heard a lot about that dead person either. MAGA
>is far more worried
>>>>> about the election than about any innocent bystander.y@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/28/2024 4:20 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>>>
>>>> Could help, but at a long-term cost.
>>>
>>> Nobody is saying to abandon renewable energy but don't shutdown fossil fuel production until we
>>> have viable alternatives and truly accurate studies that determine the true impact of fossil fuels
>>> and man on the environment.
>>> Right now we have nothing of the sort.
>>>
>>> And how does it make sense for th US to close down fossil fuel operations just to buy oil etc from
>>> other countries?
>>> Really?
>>> That is not only embarrassing but it's dangerous and massively ignorant.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>>>
>>>> The "waste" is in the noise. Bromide
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>> Printing money and spending it like crazy on idiotic programs like DEI for example causes inflation
>>> to rise.
>>
>> How much of the budget is spent on DEI?
>>
>>>>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps could increase supply (or not), but no details, more bromide.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>> Excess regulations raises prices and thus the cost to the consumer. It also stunts innovation and
>>> product development.
>>> The democrats thrive on regulation, many of them overbearing and useless.
>>> Right now California is like one huge HOA run by a team of Karens.
>>> That's one reason why businesses and people as well are leaving the state.
>>
>> No details means it is bromide (and we can't evaluate its impact).
>>
>>>>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>>>>
>>>> That spurs inflation (increases demand).
>>>
>>> Tell it to Kamala then.
>>> It's part of her plan even though we have been hearing tax cuts for the middle class from the
>>> democrats for decades.
>>> More money in the people's pocket means more spending and purchasing.
>>
>> More demand pushes prices up.
>>
>>>>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>>>>
>>>> Tariffs? That spurs inflation.
>>>
>>> Fair competition.
>>> Compete on an even keel and we can all do well.
>>> Devalue your currency, like China, and flood the market and we have a problem.
>>> And just wait until cheap EV begin flooding the US. If Kamala is in office she will probably
>>> welcome each one with a big blue ribbon stuck to the hood. And of course China will also be very
>>> happy to sell us the raw materials to manufacture batteries, solar panels and so forth as well.
>>> It's a variation on the give them the razor cheap and gouge them on the blades.
>>> They are shrewd and Biden and his lackeys are idiots.
>>
>> Fair competition or not, it's inflationary.
>>
>>>>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>>>
>>>> Not relevant.
>>>
>>> Are you kidding?
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea how much illegal immigration is costing the country?
>>> Where is this money coming from?
>>> They can only tax the legal citizens so much and at some point, like all socialist regimes, they
>>> will run out of people who can pay the bills.
>>
>> Tell us, how much does illegal immigration cost the country. Don't
>> forget to include the production from and taxes paid by unauthorized
>> workers.
>>
>>>>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>>>>
>>>> Oil prices? Iran comes to mind, but the Middle East remains only at
>>>> proxy-war level.
>>>
>>> We need to stop financing our enemies just so they can buy armaments and fire them back at us.
>>> Under Trump Iran was pretty much bankrupt and in a box.
>>> Biden comes along, unfreezes assests, relaxes their ability to sell oil and look what happened.
>>> They are now behind the proxy wars.
>>> Yet another moronic decision by the Biden administration.
>>>
>>> We need to end these wars.
>>> Settle them once and for all.
>>> The cost is draining our economy and is putting us in grave danger due to depletion of our own
>>> weapons.
>>
>> How do we end the wars?
>
>We agree to disagree.
>Let's leave it at that.
>I've stated my points and you can agree or disagree.
>Either is fine.

Translation: "I have no way of refuting your points."

"These young Russian conscripts were forcefully sent to the Kursk Oblast,
mercilessly thrown into a meat grinder by their command, and got rescued by the
Ukrainian soldiers. Save Russian kids, call Vladimir Putin to stop the war in
Ukraine!"
Look at them, they're just KIDS and Putin sent them to war!"
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYLLq6n-w88O2LjWaiYqV8A/community?lb=UgkxNSZkOdDktOI_iDax2_A7oZWdJRQaw_5L>

--
"Of all the things that I hated about my childhood, nothing
compared to the revolving door of father figures." -- JD Vance

#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:35:44 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>news:uubvcjlhbf35ci78pejilbqj75g5nskrp2@4ax.com:
>>
>>> 1. Unleash American Energy-- Drill Baby Drill.
>>
>> Trump Bans Oil Drilling Off
>> Florida, Georgia, South Carolina
>> Sept 9 2020
>> https://tinyurl.com/3tfn3tvj
>>
>> Trump extends drilling ban off
>> North Carolina, Virginia
>> Sept 25, 2020
>> https://tinyurl.com/239u3bf6
>>
>>> 2. Rein In Wasteful Federal Spending.
>>
>> Federal spending went up every
>>year under Trump.
>>
>>> 3. Regulation Cuts.
>>
>> Except all the regulations
>>Republicans want.
>>
>>> 4. Tax Cuts.
>>
>> Deficit explodes.
>>
>>> 5. Rebalance Trade.
>>
>> By shipping more jobs overseas,
>>Trump-style
>>
>>> 6. Stop illegal Immigration.
>>
>> Why did't Trump do that the first time?
>>
>>> 7. End Destabilzing Wars.
>>
>> By playing nice with all the
>>dictators who start them.
>>
>> "Putin denied it, I trust him"
>
>
>Yup, Trump is just snake oil, with his claims of preventing WWIII.
>Kamala will steer the ship properly, no one denies it's a cataclysmal
>period we're in, but the Democrats aren't weak, it's why numerous
>Republicans are on our side in this, against DJT. We are the only
>coalition with a non-dystopian vision. "Make America Great Again"?!
>Says who, Donald? What was so "great" about the $2 Bacon McDouble, or
>whatever, sir? Your economy isn't magic except for those who directly
>benefit from it, which is admittedly a sector I care about a lot, the
>working, blue collar industries in the U.S., no one denies that it
>matters, but it isn't the center of everything in a global economic
>environment.
>
>And their use of deficits tells the real story, they're not
>"conservative", they're right-wing, there's a difference. Right-wing
>can enable whatever crazy scheme is cooked up by a think tank, to get
>us into more debt. Democrats have the record of countering that.

Today's Democrats have a fiscal policy that is far more conservative than
anything any Republican has implemented since Eisenhower.

Democrats can cut deficits *without* setting off a recession.

Losing it ...
"op ed published in the failing NYT by annonomus ... really an annomonus ...
gutless..."
"They sacrifice every day for the furniture and future of their children"
"made a pivotable ... really it was pivotal"
"when I met with the President of the Virgin Islands" [POTUS *is* President of
the Virgin Islands]
"President Obamina"
"I am pro choice in every way."
"I am pro life."
"10,000 known and suspestic ..."
"He didn't want the person deportated."
and many more in the video at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzsO2ZTRarU>

--
"Of all the things that I hated about my childhood, nothing
compared to the revolving door of father figures." -- JD Vance

#NEVERtrump

pothead wrote:

> 1. It's a cataclysmal period we are in due to Biden/Harris.
> 2. Harris has had 4 years to work with Biden to fix it. She has done nothing.

<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp>

> 3. Blue collar industries? the move to EV is not helping anyone at that level. Just because the
> leaders of a particular union support a candidate doesn't mean the rank and file support the same
> candidate. Hint: autoworkers despise Biden. Do the research.

<https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-10-12/editorial-dont-believe-the-naysayers-we-can-electrify-the-economy-without-leaving-workers-behind>

> So where are all of these green energy jobs that Biden/Harris promised would appear after he
> cancelled say the Keystone pipeline? According the Biden and Hillary as well, we should have
> programmers making 6 figure salaries all over the place.

<https://www.nature.org/en-us/about-us/where-we-work/united-states/midwest-demand-for-renewables/>

> Hint: China mining raw materials ie: lithium etc for batteries.

<https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2024/04/14/2024-could-be-the-year-for-american-lithium/>

> You libbys are so darn ignorant.
> You hate Trump so much you go delusional.
>
> Take your TDS infected tinfoil hat off for a second and think about this. Are you HONESTLY, and
> this means YOU, better under Biden than you were under Trump.
>
> And if so, SPECIFICALLY how?
>
> The reason I ask is that I have not encountered a single person who can say YES and then tell me
> SPECIFICALLY how.

Do say.

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