In article <66c68703$1$3620703$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 21, 2024 at 4:21:23 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <66c6766b$0$2756$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <66c66885$0$3620717$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> > brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >> <66c66465$0$1895509$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>
> >>> In article <aaiccjt4ugtqv8uurlbq6sld1bbsn6afe8@4ax.com>,
> >>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
> >>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Who among us said a crazy person should have a gun?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It's about ones who already *do* have gun(s), whether they should have
> >>>>>>>> "due process" while they shoot someone.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Take them away.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So you agree with Trump, and not Klaus, good, I'm with you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No American agrees there should be no due process.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It's one thing if they appeal and show they aren't violent, and get
> >>>> their guns back, but if there's a reasonable suspicion of violent
> >>>> intent, with a gun owner, law enforcement shouldn't be burdened with
> >>>> "due process", while the guns are still there to be shot at someone.
> >>>
> >>> Only if he/she is a threat. I don't like the red light law because your
> >>> neighbor can decide he doesn't like you and make a call.
> >>
> >> You fear you will come across as not stable enough. Understandable in your
> >> case.
> >
> > Well you can't refute so I guess I win this right?
>
> I agree you might not come across as stable enough.

You can't refute it.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>
>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 16:01:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> But bat shit far right - "mass deportations!"
>> >>>"Kill women who get abortions!" "Dictator from Day
>> >>>One!" Government confiscations of guns!" - are OK
>> >>>with you?
>> >>
>> >>I have no reason to trust Trump's agenda more than his record, he
>> >>was an irresponsible Republican, choosing deficit over taxation.
>> >>If we're to have a dictator whose first term emulated Reagan, I
>> >>object, and I think some millions agree with me.
>> >
>> >This isn't going to be the usual election with Republicans voting
>> >Republican, Democrats voting Democrat, and both parties fighting for
>> >that slim cut of votes in the middle.
>> >
>> >Trump can't even be assured of taking the entire GOP base. Too many
>> >Republicans are speaking out against him - a thing unheard of in
>> >American politics - to be assured of getting all those votes.
>> >
>> >Some may stay home, which will hurt the down ballot, some will cross
>> >over for President but continue to vote red down ballot and others
>> >will switch not only for President, but down ballot as well to
>> >punish the party for the embarrassment of running such an asshole
>> >on a Republican ticket.
>> >
>> >We all know what happens when one party turns out its base
>> >effectively while the other's stays home.
>>
>>
>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
>
> You mean the fake ballots?

What fake ballots?

Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
>>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
>>
>> You mean the fake ballots?
>
> What fake ballots?

Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
if he says it. He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Aug 21, 2024 at 6:10:45 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<66c6900e$0$2760$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <66c68703$1$3620703$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 4:21:23 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <66c6766b$0$2756$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> In article <66c66885$0$3620717$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>> <66c66465$0$1895509$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <aaiccjt4ugtqv8uurlbq6sld1bbsn6afe8@4ax.com>,
>>>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who among us said a crazy person should have a gun?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's about ones who already *do* have gun(s), whether they should have
>>>>>>>>>> "due process" while they shoot someone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Take them away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you agree with Trump, and not Klaus, good, I'm with you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No American agrees there should be no due process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's one thing if they appeal and show they aren't violent, and get
>>>>>> their guns back, but if there's a reasonable suspicion of violent
>>>>>> intent, with a gun owner, law enforcement shouldn't be burdened with
>>>>>> "due process", while the guns are still there to be shot at someone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if he/she is a threat. I don't like the red light law because your
>>>>> neighbor can decide he doesn't like you and make a call.
>>>>
>>>> You fear you will come across as not stable enough. Understandable in your
>>>> case.
>>>
>>> Well you can't refute so I guess I win this right?
>>
>> I agree you might not come across as stable enough.
>
> You can't refute it.

I do not refute the fact you might not come across as stable enough to own a
weapon. We have reached agreement.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 8/21/2024 7:04 PM, Joel wrote:
> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
>>>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
>>>
>>> You mean the fake ballots?
>>
>> What fake ballots?
>
>
> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
> things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
> if he says it. He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
> when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.

Illegally extending national elections because of a phony chinese
communist flu bug when Trump was ahead - until the other candidate won
had nothing to do with it, right?

On Aug 21, 2024 at 7:04:58 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<h17dcj518cvrmd0eps0b1p5kkkfbt93e1h@4ax.com>:

> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
>>>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
>>>
>>> You mean the fake ballots?
>>
>> What fake ballots?
>
>
> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
> things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
> if he says it.

It is also insane given how much of the military votes by mail.

> He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
> when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.

As does Carroll. He just repeats what Fox and Trump and the like says and
shows no understanding.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

ferris bueller <harris@sucks.4$$> wrote:

>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>> fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
>> things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
>> if he says it. He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
>> when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.
>
>Illegally extending national elections

What does that even mean?

> because of a phony chinese
>communist flu bug

COVID did not come from the Wuhan lab, I dunno what you thought but
you were wrong, God created it deliberately because of Trump running
for reelection. Figure it out.

> when Trump was ahead - until the other candidate won
>had nothing to do with it, right?

Just rubbish, no one was "ahead" other than having had more votes
being counted *so far*, at a given point, it's just retarded to assert
that you would assume the outcome, prior to counting all the votes.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

In article <66c69fdc$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 21, 2024 at 6:10:45 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <66c6900e$0$2760$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <66c68703$1$3620703$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> > brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> On Aug 21, 2024 at 4:21:23 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >> <66c6766b$0$2756$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>
> >>> In article <66c66885$0$3620717$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>> <66c66465$0$1895509$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <aaiccjt4ugtqv8uurlbq6sld1bbsn6afe8@4ax.com>,
> >>>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
> >>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Who among us said a crazy person should have a gun?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's about ones who already *do* have gun(s), whether they should have
> >>>>>>>>>> "due process" while they shoot someone.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Take them away.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So you agree with Trump, and not Klaus, good, I'm with you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No American agrees there should be no due process.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's one thing if they appeal and show they aren't violent, and get
> >>>>>> their guns back, but if there's a reasonable suspicion of violent
> >>>>>> intent, with a gun owner, law enforcement shouldn't be burdened with
> >>>>>> "due process", while the guns are still there to be shot at someone.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Only if he/she is a threat. I don't like the red light law because your
> >>>>> neighbor can decide he doesn't like you and make a call.
> >>>>
> >>>> You fear you will come across as not stable enough. Understandable in your
> >>>> case.
> >>>
> >>> Well you can't refute so I guess I win this right?
> >>
> >> I agree you might not come across as stable enough.
> >
> > You can't refute it.
>
> I do not refute the fact you might not come across as stable enough to own a
> weapon. We have reached agreement.

You are evading again.

In article <h17dcj518cvrmd0eps0b1p5kkkfbt93e1h@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> >Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
> >>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
> >>
> >> You mean the fake ballots?
> >
> > What fake ballots?
>
>
> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> fraud,

It does. Explain why it wouldn't.

In article <66c6a0ab$0$3620714$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 21, 2024 at 7:04:58 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
> <h17dcj518cvrmd0eps0b1p5kkkfbt93e1h@4ax.com>:
>
> > Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
> >>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
> >>>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
> >>>
> >>> You mean the fake ballots?
> >>
> >> What fake ballots?
> >
> >
> > Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> > fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
> > things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
> > if he says it.
>
> It is also insane given how much of the military votes by mail.

The military is a very small portion of the vote.
>
> > He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
> > when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.
>
> As does Carroll. He just repeats what Fox and Trump and the like says and
> shows no understanding.

What makes you think your sources are telling thee truth?

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 02:00:06 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 16:01:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> But bat shit far right - "mass deportations!"
>>> >>>"Kill women who get abortions!" "Dictator from Day
>>> >>>One!" Government confiscations of guns!" - are OK
>>> >>>with you?
>>> >>
>>> >>I have no reason to trust Trump's agenda more than his record, he
>>> >>was an irresponsible Republican, choosing deficit over taxation.
>>> >>If we're to have a dictator whose first term emulated Reagan, I
>>> >>object, and I think some millions agree with me.
>>> >
>>> >This isn't going to be the usual election with Republicans voting
>>> >Republican, Democrats voting Democrat, and both parties fighting for
>>> >that slim cut of votes in the middle.
>>> >
>>> >Trump can't even be assured of taking the entire GOP base. Too many
>>> >Republicans are speaking out against him - a thing unheard of in
>>> >American politics - to be assured of getting all those votes.
>>> >
>>> >Some may stay home, which will hurt the down ballot, some will cross
>>> >over for President but continue to vote red down ballot and others
>>> >will switch not only for President, but down ballot as well to
>>> >punish the party for the embarrassment of running such an asshole
>>> >on a Republican ticket.
>>> >
>>> >We all know what happens when one party turns out its base
>>> >effectively while the other's stays home.
>>>
>>>
>>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
>>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
>>
>> You mean the fake ballots?
>
>
> What fake ballots?
>
>

The ones cast for Trump which failed to win him the election in 2020.

--
#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:04:58 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
>things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
>if he says it. He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
>when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.

And if he actually believed that, why did *he* vote by mail? Why is he now
urging Republicans to do the same?

--
#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:21:02 -0700, ferris bueller <harris@sucks.4$$> wrote:

>Illegally extending national elections because of a phony chinese
>communist flu bug when Trump was ahead - until the other candidate won
>had nothing to do with it, right?

When did that happen?

--
#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:31:31 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>ferris bueller <harris@sucks.4$$> wrote:
>
>>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>>> fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
>>> things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
>>> if he says it. He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
>>> when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.
>>
>>Illegally extending national elections
>
>
>What does that even mean?
>
>
>> because of a phony chinese
>>communist flu bug
>
>
>COVID did not come from the Wuhan lab, I dunno what you thought but
>you were wrong, God created it deliberately because of Trump running
>for reelection. Figure it out.
>
>
>> when Trump was ahead - until the other candidate won
>>had nothing to do with it, right?
>
>
>Just rubbish, no one was "ahead" other than having had more votes
>being counted *so far*, at a given point, it's just retarded to assert
>that you would assume the outcome, prior to counting all the votes.

The idiot would probably call the election with 1% of the vote in.

--
#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:03:42 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>In article <r4hacjdm2hlru8udsmhcachttv8audkvfc@4ax.com>,
>>joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > "We need guns to protect ourselves from
>>> >jack-booted feds trying to disarm us. Unless
>>> >they were sent by Trump"
>>>
>>> Yeah, he's the pro-police, law-and-order candidate, who's also against
>>> the "deep state", what a dumb bunch of bullshit. What kind of
>>> imbecile beLIEves this clown? Give me a fuckin' break, the botnet is
>>> pathetic, just suckers, accepting anything the guy says and does, no
>>> matter how retarded.
>>
>>So you are against the police and law and order?
>
>
>No, and neither is Harris and Walz, Trump doesn't get to claim
>ownership of that while *he* is the one having multiple felony cases
>against him.

Harris, as a prosecutor, took on everybody from transnational gangs to the big
banks.

Trump is scared shitless of her.

Several Republicans spoke at the DNC.
Jeff Duncan, former Georgia Lieutenant Governor "I am a Republican, but today I
stand here as an American." "We had armed officers outside our house protecting
us from OTHER REPUBLICANS."
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#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:06:01 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <66c63e78$0$1247424$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 11:03:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
>> <fuaccj5ff541r8f7se3m1netgplagquvcj@4ax.com>:
>>
>> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>> >> In article <r4hacjdm2hlru8udsmhcachttv8audkvfc@4ax.com>,
>> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>> >>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> "We need guns to protect ourselves from
>> >>>> jack-booted feds trying to disarm us. Unless
>> >>>> they were sent by Trump"
>> >>>
>> >>> Yeah, he's the pro-police, law-and-order candidate, who's also against
>> >>> the "deep state", what a dumb bunch of bullshit. What kind of
>> >>> imbecile beLIEves this clown? Give me a fuckin' break, the botnet is
>> >>> pathetic, just suckers, accepting anything the guy says and does, no
>> >>> matter how retarded.
>> >>
>> >> So you are against the police and law and order?
>> >
>> >
>> > No, and neither is Harris and Walz, Trump doesn't get to claim
>> > ownership of that while *he* is the one having multiple felony cases
>> > against him.
>>
>> Who do you trust on law and order, a carrier prosecutor or a convicted felon.
>> I mean, really, why is this even a question? LOL! If Trump owned his past
>> illegal behavior and used it to learn MAYBE they would have an argument, but
>> he always plays victim.
>
>Like you. So you think all prosecutors are honest? I remember one in
>Georgia.

What did you do in Georgia?

Several Republicans spoke at the DNC.
Stephanie Grisham, Trump's press secretary. On Jan 6, she texted Melania, "do
you want to tweet that peaceful protests are the right of every American, but
there is no place for lawlessness and violence?" The one word response was,
"no."

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#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:54:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
>find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
>boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
>who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
>have guns, even violent people.

No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.

--
#NEVERtrump

[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:

>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>> you expose yourself as an NRA asshole, wanting to protect violent
>>>>>gun owners. Fuck your guns. Fuck violence. You're an ignorant,
>>>>>redneck CRACKER.
>>>>
>>>>ROFLMAO
>>>>
>>>>You forgot ARMED redneck cracker. And you aren't.
>>>
>>>I'm not qualified to own a gun, I'm a diagnosed schizophrenic who's
>>>had a suicide attempt some time ago.
>>
>>Too bad. Your failure, I mean.
>
>
>Speaking of "failure",

Yes, we were speaking of you. If you ever need any pointers on how to
get it right the next time, let me know.

In article <rh8dcjdn9u3td6bai4nuiopb90nqipvapt@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> ferris bueller <harris@sucks.4$$> wrote:
>
> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >> fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
> >> things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
> >> if he says it. He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
> >> when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.
> >
> >Illegally extending national elections
>
>
> What does that even mean?
>
>
> > because of a phony chinese
> >communist flu bug
>
>
> COVID did not come from the Wuhan lab, I dunno what you thought but
> you were wrong, God created it deliberately because of Trump running
> for reelection. Figure it out.

Thanks for admitting how stupid you are.
>
>
> > when Trump was ahead - until the other candidate won
> >had nothing to do with it, right?
>
>
> Just rubbish, no one was "ahead" other than having had more votes
> being counted *so far*, at a given point, it's just retarded to assert
> that you would assume the outcome, prior to counting all the votes.

It's been proven.

In article <1e1ecjtir3fhtlusmfs7ktqesm9nr9jpng@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 02:00:06 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >
> >> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 16:01:19 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> But bat shit far right - "mass deportations!"
> >>> >>>"Kill women who get abortions!" "Dictator from Day
> >>> >>>One!" Government confiscations of guns!" - are OK
> >>> >>>with you?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have no reason to trust Trump's agenda more than his record, he
> >>> >>was an irresponsible Republican, choosing deficit over taxation.
> >>> >>If we're to have a dictator whose first term emulated Reagan, I
> >>> >>object, and I think some millions agree with me.
> >>> >
> >>> >This isn't going to be the usual election with Republicans voting
> >>> >Republican, Democrats voting Democrat, and both parties fighting for
> >>> >that slim cut of votes in the middle.
> >>> >
> >>> >Trump can't even be assured of taking the entire GOP base. Too many
> >>> >Republicans are speaking out against him - a thing unheard of in
> >>> >American politics - to be assured of getting all those votes.
> >>> >
> >>> >Some may stay home, which will hurt the down ballot, some will cross
> >>> >over for President but continue to vote red down ballot and others
> >>> >will switch not only for President, but down ballot as well to
> >>> >punish the party for the embarrassment of running such an asshole
> >>> >on a Republican ticket.
> >>> >
> >>> >We all know what happens when one party turns out its base
> >>> >effectively while the other's stays home.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
> >>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
> >>
> >> You mean the fake ballots?
> >
> >
> > What fake ballots?
> >
> >
>
> The ones cast for Trump which failed to win him the election in 2020.

More admission of failure from you.

In article <ug1ecjlgf2naa63kmvnqvof1ps90tvsqm0@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:04:58 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
> >things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
> >if he says it. He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
> >when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.
>
> And if he actually believed that, why did *he* vote by mail? Why is he now
> urging Republicans to do the same?

Why do you care?

In article <vp1ecj5ilhis02q2bcbeb8s17gj8497nki@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:06:01 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <66c63e78$0$1247424$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> On Aug 21, 2024 at 11:03:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
> >> <fuaccj5ff541r8f7se3m1netgplagquvcj@4ax.com>:
> >>
> >> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> In article <r4hacjdm2hlru8udsmhcachttv8audkvfc@4ax.com>,
> >> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >> >>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> "We need guns to protect ourselves from
> >> >>>> jack-booted feds trying to disarm us. Unless
> >> >>>> they were sent by Trump"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yeah, he's the pro-police, law-and-order candidate, who's also against
> >> >>> the "deep state", what a dumb bunch of bullshit. What kind of
> >> >>> imbecile beLIEves this clown? Give me a fuckin' break, the botnet is
> >> >>> pathetic, just suckers, accepting anything the guy says and does, no
> >> >>> matter how retarded.
> >> >>
> >> >> So you are against the police and law and order?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No, and neither is Harris and Walz, Trump doesn't get to claim
> >> > ownership of that while *he* is the one having multiple felony cases
> >> > against him.
> >>
> >> Who do you trust on law and order, a carrier prosecutor or a convicted felon.
> >> I mean, really, why is this even a question? LOL! If Trump owned his past
> >> illegal behavior and used it to learn MAYBE they would have an argument, but
> >> he always plays victim.
> >
> >Like you. So you think all prosecutors are honest? I remember one in
> >Georgia.
>
> What did you do in Georgia?

Fani
>
> Several Republicans spoke at the DNC.
> Stephanie Grisham, Trump's press secretary. On Jan 6, she texted Melania, "do
> you want to tweet that peaceful protests are the right of every American, but
> there is no place for lawlessness and violence?" The one word response was,
> "no."

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66c70517$0$2873019
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <h17dcj518cvrmd0eps0b1p5kkkfbt93e1h@4ax.com>,
> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>
>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>> >Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
>> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>> >>>
>> >>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
>> >>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
>> >>
>> >> You mean the fake ballots?
>> >
>> > What fake ballots?
>>
>>
>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>> fraud,
>
> It does.

Prove it.

Trump, While Attacking Mail Voting,
Casts Mail Ballot Again
August 19, 2020

https://tinyurl.com/2trvz2xy

In article <XnsB1D64F37214F7629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66c70517$0$2873019
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <h17dcj518cvrmd0eps0b1p5kkkfbt93e1h@4ax.com>,
> > joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> >news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
> >> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
> >> >>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
> >> >>
> >> >> You mean the fake ballots?
> >> >
> >> > What fake ballots?
> >>
> >>
> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >> fraud,
> >
> > It does.
>
>
> Prove it.
>
>
>
>
> Trump, While Attacking Mail Voting,
> Casts Mail Ballot Again
> August 19, 2020
>
> https://tinyurl.com/2trvz2xy

Think about it moron.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>> fraud,
>
>It does. Explain why it wouldn't.

Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
they verify them as they're processed and counted.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.