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Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: Lil dwarf Rudey
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Governor Swill wrote:
> there are transgenders in women's boxing

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: Lil dwarf Rudey
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Governor Swill wrote:
> a woman’s choice

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


Click here to read the complete article
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: Lil dwarf Rudey
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Governor Swill wrote:
> Per Roe,

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


Click here to read the complete article
Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: Lil dwarf Rudey
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump, alt.politics.liberalism
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Governor Swill wrote:
> *anybody* frightens

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


Click here to read the complete article
Subject: “changed the subject” Kamala Harris Supports
From: -hh
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Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You falsely accused me of lying, making you a liar. Proven fact.
>>>>
>>>> Now, if perhaps I was wrong about the law in Minnesota (wrong, not
>>>> lying), feel free to change the subject to something like "Abortion
>>>> law in Minnesota" and I'll read what you (or -highhorse) have to say
>>>> on the issue.
>>>
>>> (snipped, unread)
>>
>> If you want to apologize, you will need to change the subject to
>> indicate that.
>>
>> Joel's follow-up post to yours was deleted, unread, As were your two
>> 8/14 posts. As will your response to this post, unless you change the
>> subject.
>
>
> You need therapy, or something, OCD newsgroup reading guy.
>

chrisv’s delusions need to have the subject line changed for him to reduce
his petulant rants.
So done.

The underlying issue is as Swill & I noted, namely that the legal vacuum
from Roe’s revocation resulted in absence-of-laws in some jurisdictions.
They probably will be temporary, but from the GOP/MAGA-centric “States
Rights!” platform, chrisv can’t now insist on having Federal control over
them because he doesn’t like their self-rule choice: he ethically can’t try
to have it both ways.

-hh

Subject: Re: “changed the subject” Kamala Harris Supports
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-hh wrote:
> The underlying issue is as Swill & I noted

Huntzy you have thrown in with the worst scum out here.

Unsurprising for a TRAITOR like yourself.

Subject: Re: “changed the subject” Kamala Harris Supports
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Chips Loral wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> The underlying issue is as Swill & I noted
>
> Huntzy you have thrown in with the worst scum out here.
>
> Unsurprising for a TRAITOR like yourself.
>
if you don't like the traitors where you live , move

Subject: Minnesota abortion law
From: chrisv
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-hh wrote:

>> chrisv wrote:
>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You falsely accused me of lying, making you a liar. Proven fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, if perhaps I was wrong about the law in Minnesota (wrong, not
>>>>> lying), feel free to change the subject to something like "Abortion
>>>>> law in Minnesota" and I'll read what you (or -highhorse) have to say
>>>>> on the issue.
>>>>
>>>> (snipped, unread)
>>>
>>> If you want to apologize, you will need to change the subject to
>>> indicate that.
>
>chrisv’s delusions need to have the subject line changed for him to reduce
>his petulant rants.
>So done.

I asked to change the subject to reflect the issue, you moron.
So done, by me.

>The underlying issue is as Swill & I noted, namely that the legal vacuum
>from Roe’s revocation resulted in absence-of-laws in some jurisdictions.

Minnesota passed their new laws *after* Roe was overturned,

From Wikipedia: In January 2023, the Minnesota Legislature passed the
Protecting Reproductive Options Act to "explicitly protect and codify
abortion rights" within Minnesota law.

In any case, it was a lie to accuse me of lying. I was correct.

> (idiotic trolling snipped)

Since you've had your chance, and you've still got *nothing*, any
response from you or "Swill" will be deleted, unread.

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: Joel
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NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Well they already have that right in most states. The Supreme Court
>decided (rightly) that abortion is not in the Constitution and thus
>subject to regulation by the state. Apparently they aren't bright
>enough to understand how the basic document of the country works.
>
>Kamela knows she can't do what she said but she's peddling her
>nonsense because people are stupid.

Free hint, person, Kamala Harris knows that the makeup of the Supreme
Court is what will make this standard, her winning the election keeps
the presidency, that nominates justices, Democratic.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
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Joel wrote:
> NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Well they already have that right in most states. The Supreme Court
>> decided (rightly) that abortion is not in the Constitution and thus
>> subject to regulation by the state. Apparently they aren't bright
>> enough to understand how the basic document of the country works.
>>
>> Kamela knows she can't do what she said but she's peddling her
>> nonsense because people are stupid.
>
>
> Free hint, person, Kamala Harris knows that the makeup of the Supreme
> Court is what will make this standard, her winning the election keeps
> the presidency, that nominates justices, Democratic.
>
so

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: chrisv
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-hh wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> I witnessed no "complexity" with my daughter getting coverage for
>> birth-control pills or a diaphragm. Both free.
>
>"Free" ... including the healthcare insurance policy?
>
>Who paid for that insurance, chrisv?

Decent, reasonable people assume that everyone is aware of our health
insurance costs, -highhorse.

I realize that those conditions leave you out.

--
"Actually incorrect, for there's additional market competitors which
chrisv is ignoring (or is unaware of)" - lying asshole "-hh",
asserting that I may not have been aware of Microsoft and Apple

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: chrisv
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chrisv wrote:

>I will not tolerate being treated with such disrespect.

Responses from "Swill" and -highhorse were deleted, unread.

Subject: YA subject line change (was: Minnesota abortion law)
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On 8/15/24 7:00 PM, chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You falsely accused me of lying, making you a liar. Proven fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, if perhaps I was wrong about the law in Minnesota (wrong, not
>>>>>> lying), feel free to change the subject to something like "Abortion
>>>>>> law in Minnesota" and I'll read what you (or -highhorse) have to say
>>>>>> on the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> (snipped, unread)
>>>>
>>>> If you want to apologize, you will need to change the subject to
>>>> indicate that.
>>
>> chrisv’s delusions need to have the subject line changed for him to reduce
>> his petulant rants.
>> So done.
>
> I asked to change the subject to reflect the issue, you moron.
> So done, by me.

No, you merely wanted the subject line to be changed to "something"
else. Doesn't actually matter what the change was, because your real
motivation was to be lazy (again) and not read the post's body (and
likely claim "(snipped, unread)" again.

>> The underlying issue is as Swill & I noted, namely that the legal vacuum
>>from Roe’s revocation resulted in absence-of-laws in some jurisdictions.
>
> Minnesota passed their new laws *after* Roe was overturned, >
> From Wikipedia: In January 2023, the Minnesota Legislature passed the
> Protecting Reproductive Options Act to "explicitly protect and codify
> abortion rights" within Minnesota law.

Sloppy work (again): here's the citation you "forgot" to include:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Minnesota#Protect_Reproductive_Options_Act>

What is of note & relevance here is that this wasn't actually a *change*
in law: its merely language that more explicitly states existing law.

Thus, chrisv's connotation that the law was changed is a tad incorrect.

> In any case, it was a lie to accuse me of lying. I was correct.

Nope, not accusing you of lying: merely that you lack the good faith
(or perhaps intelligence) to acknowledge the complexities of reality.

>> (idiotic trolling snipped)

As was previously stated, but which chrisv is trying to avoid:

"The underlying issue is as Swill & I noted, namely that the legal
vacuum from Roe’s revocation resulted in absence-of-laws in some
jurisdictions. They probably will be temporary, but from the
GOP/MAGA-centric “States Rights!” platform, chrisv can’t now insist on
having Federal control over them because he doesn’t like their self-rule
choice: he ethically can’t try to have it both ways."

Point here is that even if we accept an interpretation of MN's laws as
allowing abortion a minute before natural birth for any reason, it is
still due to the SCOTUS Dobbs decision which made it now 100% the
Individual . States' . Rights . to . Decide . Their . Own . Laws (!).

> Since you've had your chance, and you've still got *nothing*, any
> response from you or "Swill" will be deleted, unread.

SOrry, but I'm not the one who's trying to grasp at anything you can, to
try to avoid admitting that you're choosing to miss the primary point.

-hh

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: -hh
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On 8/16/24 5:23 AM, chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> I witnessed no "complexity" with my daughter getting coverage for
>>> birth-control pills or a diaphragm. Both free.
>>
>> "Free" ... including the healthcare insurance policy?
>>
>> Who paid for that insurance, chrisv?
>
> Decent, reasonable people assume that everyone is aware of our health
> insurance costs, -highhorse.

Dodge.

Point is still that reproductive care isn't free in the USA, which means
that those on the bottom of our economic continuum can't afford it.

> I realize that those conditions leave you out.
>

"Decent, reasonable people" have empathy for those who are not as well
off as themselves. You've chosen to exclude yourself from that group.

-hh

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
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-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in news:v9nl0g$1emtj$2@dont-
email.me:

> On 8/16/24 5:23 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I witnessed no "complexity" with my daughter getting coverage for
>>>> birth-control pills or a diaphragm. Both free.
>>>
>>> "Free" ... including the healthcare insurance policy?
>>>
>>> Who paid for that insurance, chrisv?
>>
>> Decent, reasonable people assume that everyone is aware of our health
>> insurance costs, -highhorse.
>
> Dodge.
>
> Point is still that reproductive care isn't free in the USA, which means
> that those on the bottom of our economic continuum can't afford it.

Conservative logic: Welfare mothers
having child after child to be raised and
educated at public expense is cheaper than
providing free birth control to them.

Subject: Re: YA subject line change (was: Minnesota abortion law)
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-hh wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: chrisv
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chrisv wrote:

> -hh wrote:
>>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> I witnessed no "complexity" with my daughter getting coverage for
>>> birth-control pills or a diaphragm. Both free.
>>
>>"Free" ... including the healthcare insurance policy?
>>
>>Who paid for that insurance, chrisv?
>
>Decent, reasonable people assume that everyone is aware of our health
>insurance costs, -highhorse.
>
>I realize that those conditions leave you out.

The butthurt loser's response was deleted, unread.

"Look, chrisv thought that they were free!"

Sheesh. Someone needs their diaper changed.

I've already pointed-out that resources are available to those who
don't have employer health insurance. In the US, "lack of resources"
cannot be blamed for the majority of unwanted pregnancies.

"The Affordable Care Act (ACA) guarantees women insurance coverage of
all methods of birth control without additional out-of-pocket cost, no
matter where they live or how they are insured."

https://nwlc.org/resource/the-affordable-care-acts-birth-control-benefit-too-important-to-lose/

Subject: Re: ?changed the subject? Kamala Harris Supports
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From: chrisv@nospam.invalid (chrisv)
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-hh wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

My advice to change the subject was not a blanket "I'll start reading
your posts again" for any thread. It's meant to allow someone to show
me, IN THE SUBJECT, that they are willing apologize/retract/show a
willingness to be reasonable/stop trolling/etc.

Subject: Re: ?changed the subject? Kamala Harris Supports
From: chrisv
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chrisv wrote:

>-hh wrote:
>
>> (snipped, unread)

Oops that may have been the same -highhorse post that I read and
responded to already? Did I delete my own post, unread? I'm tired.

>My advice to change the subject was not a blanket "I'll start reading
>your posts again" for any thread. It's meant to allow someone to show
>me, IN THE SUBJECT, that they are willing apologize/retract/show a
>willingness to be reasonable/stop trolling/etc.

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: Governor Swill
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 18:13:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

> Conservative logic: Welfare mothers
>having child after child to be raised and
>educated at public expense is cheaper than
>providing free birth control to them.

Worth repeating.

I'll be stealing this, thanks!

#nevertrump
When they say make America great again, they want to go back to 1873.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YHju6jnwcl4

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 18:13:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

> Conservative logic: Welfare mothers
>having child after child to be raised and
>educated at public expense is cheaper than
>providing free birth control to them.

The logic stems from the belief that more illegitimate white babies will be born. These
will be given up for adoption by Christian families who will raise them in the Faith.

#nevertrump

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: -hh
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From: recscuba_google@huntzinger.com (-hh)
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On 8/16/24 3:09 PM, chrisv wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
>
>> -hh wrote:
>>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I witnessed no "complexity" with my daughter getting coverage for
>>>> birth-control pills or a diaphragm. Both free.
>>>
>>> "Free" ... including the healthcare insurance policy?
>>>
>>> Who paid for that insurance, chrisv?
>>
>> Decent, reasonable people assume that everyone is aware of our health
>> insurance costs, -highhorse.
>>
>> I realize that those conditions leave you out.
>
> The butthurt loser's response was deleted, unread.
>
> "Look, chrisv thought that they were free!"

Nope: chrisv is simply trying to ignore that healthcare insurance
*isn't* free, and as such, there's a significant segment who are
uninsured...specifically, 1 in 13 Americans:

<https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/e497c623e5a0216b31291cd37063df1d/NHIS-Q3-2023-Data-Point-FINAL.pdf>

>
> Sheesh. Someone needs their diaper changed.

Diapers aren't free either /s

> I've already pointed-out that resources are available to those who
> don't have employer health insurance. In the US, "lack of resources"
> cannot be blamed for the majority of unwanted pregnancies.
>
> "The Affordable Care Act (ACA) guarantees women insurance coverage of
> all methods of birth control without additional out-of-pocket cost, no
> matter where they live or how they are insured."
>
> https://nwlc.org/resource/the-affordable-care-acts-birth-control-benefit-too-important-to-lose/
>

Having "access" to ACA isn't the same as being able to afford it, spiff.

-hh

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: Chips Loral
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From: loralandclinton@invalid.co (Chips Loral)
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-hh wrote:
>
> Having "access" to ACA isn't the same as being able to afford it, spiff.
>
>
> -hh

HUNTZY - YOU LYING PILE OF SHIT!

https://www.healthinsurance.org/obamacare/how-immigrants-are-getting-health-coverage/

New immigrants – including those who gain citizenship or lawful
permanent residency – can obtain health insurance from a variety of
sources, including employer-sponsored plans, the individual/family
market, and health plans that are marketed specifically for immigrants.

As discussed below, some states are starting to establish their own
programs that provide health coverage to eligible applicants regardless
of immigration status.

There are a variety of other special enrollment periods that apply to
people experiencing various qualifying life events. These special
enrollment periods are available regardless of whether a person is a
lawfully present immigrant or a native-born U.S. citizen.

To address this issue, Congress included a provision in the ACA to allow
recent immigrants to get subsidies in the exchange regardless of how low
their income is.

Their premiums for the second-lowest-cost Silver plan are entirely
covered by the premium subsidy through at least the end of 2025. (The
elimination of premiums at this income level is due to the American
Rescue Plan and its enhancement of the ACA’s premium subsidies. These
provisions were extended through 2025 by the Inflation Reduction Act.)

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
From: -hh
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On 8/17/24 3:12 PM, Chips Loral wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>>
>> Having "access" to ACA isn't the same as being able to afford it, spiff.
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> HUNTZY - YOU LYING PILE OF SHIT!

Watch this, spiff!

>
> https://www.healthinsurance.org/obamacare/how-immigrants-are-getting-health-coverage/
>
> New immigrants ...

That's not "all Americans". Strike.

– including those who gain citizenship or lawful
> permanent residency – can obtain health insurance from a variety of
> sources, including employer-sponsored plans, the individual/family
> market, and health plans that are marketed specifically for immigrants.
>
> As discussed below, some states are starting to establish their own
> programs that provide health coverage to eligible applicants regardless
> of immigration status.
>
> There are a variety of other special enrollment periods that apply to
> people experiencing various qualifying life events. These special
> enrollment periods are available regardless of whether a person is a
> lawfully present immigrant or a native-born U.S. citizen.
>
> To address this issue, Congress included a provision in the ACA to allow
> recent immigrants to get subsidies in the exchange regardless of how low
> their income is.
>
> Their premiums for the second-lowest-cost Silver plan are entirely
> covered by the premium subsidy through at least the end of 2025.

....and that's showing that even just this is *temporary*, spiff.

(The
> elimination of premiums at this income level is due to the American
> Rescue Plan and its enhancement of the ACA’s premium subsidies. These
> provisions were extended through 2025 by the Inflation Reduction Act.)

You really should understand the discussion AND read your own cites
before you open your pie hole.

-hh

Subject: Re: Kamala Harris Supports
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