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He�s disconcerted by the idea that this country is being run by �childless
cat ladies.�

When it resurfaced in July, this item quickly became one of Vance�s most
infamous quotes, gaining so much traction that he�s now beefing with
Jennifer Aniston. Here it is: In 2021 (which is to say, early in Joe
Biden�s presidency), Vance complained to Tucker Carlson that the U.S. was
being run by �childless cat ladies who are miserable in their own lives and
the choices that they�ve made,� and �want to make the rest of the country
miserable, too.� As evidence, he pointed to vice-president and step-mother
Kamala Harris, Transportation secretary and adoptive father Pete Buttigieg,
as well as congresswoman and dog owner Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, arguing
that a person without biological children can�t have a stake in the future.
He�s since walked back the comment by degrees � �I�ve got nothing against
cats,� he claims � but nonetheless appears obsessed with birthing, warning
that the �childless left� lack a �physical commitment� to the country and
blaming his bad press on the idea that most journalists are �angry,�
�miserable,� and �childless adults.� He has also argued that childless
members of the �leadership class� are �more sociopathic� and make the
country �less mentally stable,� and he�s speculated that the �most
deranged� and �most psychotic� critics on social media tended not to have
kids. In a recent CNN interview, he also appeared to suggest that Harris �
whose step-kids call her her �Momala� � is �anti-child� and certainly �part
of a set of ideas that exist in American leadership that is anti-family.�
He thinks people with children should be rewarded with extra votes.

As may be clear from the above, Vance has a lot of trad-ass opinions about
parenting. (Despite the fact that the mother of his own children was, until
very recently, a working lawyer at an elite law firm.) Though he has (for
example) voted against federal protections for IVF and called universal day
care �class war against normal people,� he�s also evinced support for a
U.S. version of a loan-forgiveness program instituted by Hungary�s far-
right nationalist prime minister, in which same-sex married couples get
financial kickbacks for having more kids. On top of all that, he�s said
that people who have kids deserve more votes per election. �Let�s give
votes to all children in this country, but let�s give control over those
votes to the parents of those children,� he said in 2021. Vance explained
that people who don�t have kids � whether by choice or, I guess, because
they can�t � should �face the consequences and reality� of their childless
status, because �if you don�t have as much of an investment in the future
of this country, maybe you shouldn�t get nearly the same voice.�
He�s also said some frightening things about reproductive health.

Vance�s views on abortion � that it isn�t acceptable, even in cases of rape
and/or incest, and that law enforcement should play a role in policing
patients� medical decisions � are strong, if not out of line with his hard-
right pivot. Sound bites such as �the rejection of the American family is
perhaps the most pernicious and the most evil thing the left has done in
this country� don�t feel especially surprising, given the context. But,
consider this hypothetical scenario he spun out about the fall of Roe v.
Wade, before the Supreme Court actually overturned it. If abortion became
illegal in his state (Ohio), he worried, then �every day George Soros sends
a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately Black women to get them to
go have abortions in California. And of course, the left will celebrate
this as a victory for diversity � uh, that�s kind of creepy.� He went on to
say that, due to the situation�s supposed creepiness, he would be �pretty
sympathetic� to some sort of �federal response to prevent it from
happening.� Which is itself a pretty creepy prospect.
He said he felt his most �female� on the day he was too weepy to watch
Garden State.

As our colleagues at Intelligencer have noted, Vance liked to indulge in a
little �moody blogging� during the mid-aughts. Ahead of his deployment to
Iraq, a 20-year-old Vance reflected on feelings of loneliness and intense
homesickness, in distinctly 2005 terms:

Needless to say it was a crappy day, and I hate airports, and yesterday
was incredibly emotional for me. I honestly can say that I felt more like a
female than I think I ever have or ever will. �I couldn�t watch Garden
State because New Jersey�s landscape is so much like Ohio�s, the music is
so relevant to my life right now, and the story of a guy returning home,
realizing that home isn�t what it used to be, etc. made me want to tear up.

Listen, I�m not in a position to judge anyone for posting a retrospectively
embarrassing blog, nor for crying during Garden State in 2005. I just
wonder if this wasn�t a window into the bizarre gender politics to come,
particularly given that Vance would later describe his blogged
�ruminations� as being �like a diary, only far more masculine.�
He�s called Trump �an idiot,� a �cynical asshole,� and �America�s Hitler.�

I�m not saying he�s wrong, but I think that � if I were running for
president � I probably wouldn�t want my second-in-command to have gone on
the record saying, �My God, what an idiot!� when asked about me, nor would
I want them using adjectives including �noxious� and �reprehensible� to
describe my character. But back in 2016, Vance was talking a lot of shit on
whatever platform would have him. In fairness, I guess, Vance drew the
Hitler parallel as an either/or � �I go back and forth between thinking
Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn�t be that bad (and might
even prove useful) or that he�s America�s Hitler,� he Facebook messaged a
friend during Trump�s first run � so maybe his presence on the ticket
settles the question. Anyway, during his Senate run, he said he �regret[s]
being wrong about the guy,� and subsequently earned himself a Trump
endorsement along with the title of suck-up.
He�s outlined a vision for the second Trump presidency that sounds a lot
like dictatorship.

During a 2021 podcast with a prominent men�s-rights activist, Vance called
for a �de-woke-ification program� in which the right would �seize the
institutions of the left, and turn them against the left.� He went on to
say that, should Trump win in 2024, he would encourage his boss to �fire
every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the
administrative state, replace them with our people. And when the courts
stop you, stand before the country, and say � quoting Andrew Jackson � �the
chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.�� Based on a
recent ABC interview, it sounds like Vance stands by that advice.
He considers Alex Jones to be a reliable source.

In 2019, under the influence of the billionaire Peter Thiel, Vance
converted to Catholicism. That late-in-life pivot might help explain the
following sentiment, expressed in remarks to a 2021 conference of young
conservatives. Defending a previous assertion that Infowars host Alex Jones
� who owes $1.5 billion to the families of Sandy Hook shooting victims for
spreading the conspiracy theory that the massacre was a hoax � was a
�better source of information than Rachel Maddow,� Vance offered the
following:

It�s like, yeah, okay, this person believes crazy things. But I bet if
you�re being honest with yourself, every single person in this room
believes at least something that�s a little crazy, right? I believe the
devil is real and that he works terrible things in our society. � We have
to get away from this weird tension that we feel in our chest when somebody
says, �This person believes something crazy. Therefore, you must denounce
them.�

He theorized that Biden might be trying to murder Trump supporters with
fentanyl.

Speaking of crazy beliefs and conspiracy theories, Vance once floated the
idea that Biden had weaponized border policy against Trump�s base in an
attempt at mass retribution via fatal overdose. �If you wanted to kill a
bunch of MAGA voters in the middle of the heartland, how better than to
target them and their kids with this deadly fentanyl?� he told the Gateway
Pundit in 2022. �It does look intentional. It�s like Joe Biden wants to
punish the people who didn�t vote for him and opening up the floodgates to
the border is one way to do it.�

In August, he shifted his focus to Harris, telling CBS that fentanyl
addiction is her fault, claiming that �if Harris was applying proper
leverage to the Chinese and to the Mexican drug cartels, we would not have
so many people dying of fentanyl overdoses.�
He is a certified freak for Diet Mountain Dew.

Another thing about Vance is that he freakin� loves Diet Mountain Dew, and
he is always bringing it up. �Democrats say that it is racist to believe �
well, they say it�s racist to do anything,� he said at a July rally. �I had
a Diet Mountain Dew yesterday and one today, and I�m sure they�re going to
call that racist too. But � it�s good.� Several days later, in BTS footage
from a campaign event in Radford, Virginia, Vance again bumped his beloved
DMD while giving his followers a look at the Trump buffet: �They�ve got a
ton of crap for you to drink and eat,� he says, plucking a chilled bottle
of his favorite soda from its ice bucket. �They�ve got about a dozen
Snickers, a bag of chips � if I ate even half this stuff, of course, I�d
balloon up like crazy. This is the energy that powers the presidential and
vice-presidential campaign.� Which, yeah, it shows.
He agrees with Trump�s assessment that the vice-president doesn�t matter.

Click here to read the complete article

"the true [genius] of JD Vance is that he takes sentiments that *could* be totally normal,
like "intergenerational caregiving is good," and somehow makes them incredibly creepy,"
the co-chair of the progressive group Indivisible, Leah Greenberg, posted on X, formerly
Twitter, while sharing the resurfaced clip.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-postmenopausal-women-podcast-1939927

#nevertrump

J.D. Vance: "It's that Trump is a really bad candidate, and frankly I think, a really bad
person."
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7S_NUogsWx8>

Governor Swill wrote:
> J.D. Vance:

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Rudy Canoza wrote:

I might go to some swing state that is very close in the polls, and try
to become a mole saboteur in the Trump campaign. That sound like fun!

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...adding in electoral fraud to your public death threats...

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE WELL-DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

Click here to read the complete article

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>J.D. Vance: "It's that Trump is a really bad candidate, and frankly I think, a really bad
>person."
><https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7S_NUogsWx8>

Oh but the senator has grown up to be so wise, and ready to take up
the reins at 40, let DJT have his garden of dictatorship.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-08-15, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>J.D. Vance: "It's that Trump is a really bad candidate, and frankly I think, a really bad
>>person."
>><https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7S_NUogsWx8>
>
>
> Oh but the senator has grown up to be so wise, and ready to take up
> the reins at 40, let DJT have his garden of dictatorship.
>
You keep referring to Trump as a dictator yet AFAIK you still have not given a single example of
how Trump's presidency was even close to a dictatorship.

Since you are now doing the same with Vance, are you aware of how Walz behaves like a tryanical
dictator?
You won't if you watch MSNBC or NPR.

Here is one example:

"Video shows troops fire paintballs at citizens on their own porch to enforce lockdowns while Walz
reigned"
<https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/08/13/video-shows-troops-fire-paintballs-at-citizens-on-their-own
-porch-to-enforce-lockdowns-while-walz-reigned-1479628/>

Here is another way over the top dictator like behavior:

"Minnesota grandma sentenced to 90 days in prison for violating Walz lockdown orders speaks out"
<https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-grandma-sentenced-90-days-125842257.html>

How about :

How's it feel to have your children taken away from you by force?

<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tim-walz-signed-bill-making-minnesota-a-sanctuary-state-for
-child-sex-changes/ar-AA1olufz>

And there are many, many more examples.

So tell me again, how has Trump acted like a dictator?

--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

Talkers are no good doers. -- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI"

comp / comp.os.linux.advocacy / Re: World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance

Subject	Author
World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance	Leper
Re: World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance	Governor Swill
Re: World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance	Lil dwarf Rudey
Re: World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance	Joel
Re: World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance	pothead
Re: World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance	Governor Swill
Re: World's Bravest War Hero's Letter To JD "Stolen Valor" Vance	Chris Ahlstrom