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Vance is a child rapist who committed child rape while with the Marine
Corps.


J.D. Vance�s �Stolen Valor� Claim Against Tim Walz Is Total B.S.
Trump's VP pick accused his rival of having dodged a deployment to Iraq,
and of engaging in "stolen valor garbage�
August 7, 2024

There�s very little the two men running to be the nation�s next vice
president have in common, but the one thing they do share is a history of
military service.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, who as of Tuesday is running alongside Vice
President Kamala Harris, served for 24 years as a member of the Army
National Guard after voluntarily enlisting at the age of 17. Sen. J.D.
Vance (R-Ohio), former President Donald Trump�s running mate, served for
four years as a member of the Marines.

On Wednesday, Vance took a swing at Walz over his military record,
repeating viral claims that Walz had �dropped out of the Army and allowed
his unit to go without him� to Iraq. Vance described Walz�s military record
as �stolen valor garbage.�

As a member of the Army National Guard, Walz helped respond to major
natural disasters, worked in firearm and artillery training, received
commendations as a prolific sharpshooter, and was sent to Italy to support
U.S. operations in Afghanistan as part of Operation Enduring Freedom. In
2005, Walz ended his military career to pursue a successful run for
Congress, he retired honorably with a slew of awards and medals and the
rank of master sergeant � an administrative downgrade from command sergeant
major, which he had been promoted to earlier in the year but had not
completed training for.

Vance also accused Walz of feigning a record in active combat: �[Walz] said
� and he was making a point about gun control � he said, �we shouldn�t
allow weapons that I used in war, to be on America�s streets.� Well, I
wonder, Tim Walz, when you ever in war?�

The senator actually misquoted Walz in his screed. In the clip Vance was
referencing, Walz says that he �carried� weapons in war, not �used.� Given
that Operation Enduring Freedom was a part of the post-9/11 War on Terror,
and that Walz was deployed to Italy under it � and likely had a service
weapon � the claim that he is engaging in �stolen valor� holds little
water.

Vance spoke on Wednesday as if he served more honorably than Walz, noting
that he went to Iraq �I did it, I did what they asked me to do and I did it
honorably,� he said The senator was deployed for six months in Iraq as a
combat correspondent in 2005 as part of the Marines� Public Affairs office.
He � like Walz � never engaged in active combat and has stated that he was
�lucky to escape any real fighting,� during his deployment.

Walz has spoken at length about his service in the past, and it�s not the
first time his political opponents have attempted to diminish his service.
The claim that Walz abandoned his unit to avoid fighting in Iraq was
leveled against him in 2018 and 2022, during his campaigns for the
governorship and reelection, largely by former state Sen. Scott Jensen and
Thomas Behrends � a former National Guardsman who was deployed to Iraq
after Walz�s retirement.

In 2022, former battalion commander Joseph Eustice, who served with Walz,
told the Star Tribune that the accusations against Walz stemmed from ill-
informed or �sour-grapes� soldiers who were passed over for promotions. �He
was a great soldier,� Eustice told the Tribune. �When he chose to leave, he
had every right to leave � The man did nothing wrong when he chose to leave
the service; he didn�t break any rules.�

In 2018, Al Bonnifield, who served under Walz in the Guard, told MPR News
that Walz �talked with us for quite a while on that subject [of retiring].
He weighed that decision to run for Congress very heavy. He loved the
military, he loved the Guard, he loved the soldiers he worked with.�

Walz told the outlet that �once you�re in, it�s hard to retire. Of my 40
years or 41 years, I had been in the military 24 of them. It was just what
you did � So that transition period was just a challenge.�
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�I know that there are certainly folks that did far more than I did. I know
that,� Walz added. �I willingly say that I got far more out of the military
than they got out of me, from the GI Bill to leadership opportunities to
everything else.�

Twenty-four years of service is nothing to sneeze at, and Vance is running
alongside a known draft dodger who has repeatedly disparaged veterans and
Gold Star families. If Vance wants to critique a man�s honor, he should
start with his running mate.

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