On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-07-22 9:31 p.m., Joel wrote:
>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>>
>>>> And yet it's Trump who is charged with this, not Biden. Must be a
>>>> conspiracy, the deep state wants to take Trump down, blah blah, get
>>>> with reality.
>>>
>>> The same situation, only Trump gets charged.
>>>
>>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-says>
>>>
>>> Luckily, the Supreme Court saw reason and dismissed the charges against
>>> Trump.
>>
>>
>> It's not the same situation at all. Not remotely. Trump took
>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>> and condemn Biden.
>
> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?

Good point.

And when Biden or Clinton take classified documents (which they had no right
to take) it's supposedly "unimportant" classified documents. But when Trump
has a few classified documents amongst many other documents, these are (of
course) "important" classified documents. Unfortunately for Joel's premise,
the law doesn't rate classified documents on the imaginary "important"
scale. All classified documents are presumed "important," hence the
classified designation. (But it doesn't matter, Joel is making up this
bullshit as he goes anyhow. Previously he claimed, without basis, that Trump
"paraded" classified documents.)

The other problem for Joel is that, as president, Trump had the right to
these documents and he could, at his discretion, declassify them. Not the
case with VICE-president Biden (emphasis on "vice") and Secretary of State
Clinton.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-07-22 10:51 p.m., Joel wrote:
>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-22 7:08 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's now come out that immediately after the shooting the secret
>>>>>> service lied about denying Trump's requests for additional security.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An "untrue assertion" and "absolutely false" we were told.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But they now admit that they lied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FFS. Is there one branch of the government that is *not* shitty,
>>>>>> lying incompetents?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://x.com/SecretSvcSpox/status/1812451649387933912
>>>>>
>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>
>>> Poor Joel. Clueless as usual.
>>>
>>> As for the classified documents at Trump's estate. No one has claimed they
>>> were shown like "trophies,"... completely made up. But, more importantly, as
>>> president, Trump could de-classify any classified document. Vice-president
>>> Biden did NOT have that privilege.
>>
>> Poor Ron, accusing me of being clueless as he spews nonsense.
>
> Which part is nonsense? Biden did not have the privilege and Trump
> indeed did. There is no lie there as the Supreme Court determined when
> they dismissed the charges against Trump for this very matter.

Joel makes it up as he goes. He emotionally reacts to MSM bullshit. He's
either extremely gullible or dishonest. Since I don't like accusing a person
of lying, I'll go with extremely gullible and clueless.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-07-23 2:30 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-22 9:31 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet it's Trump who is charged with this, not Biden. Must be a
>>>>> conspiracy, the deep state wants to take Trump down, blah blah, get
>>>>> with reality.
>>>>
>>>> The same situation, only Trump gets charged.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-says>
>>>>
>>>> Luckily, the Supreme Court saw reason and dismissed the charges against
>>>> Trump.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not the same situation at all. Not remotely. Trump took
>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>>> and condemn Biden.
>>
>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?
>
> Good point.
>
> And when Biden or Clinton take classified documents (which they had no right
> to take) it's supposedly "unimportant" classified documents. But when Trump
> has a few classified documents amongst many other documents, these are (of
> course) "important" classified documents. Unfortunately for Joel's premise,
> the law doesn't rate classified documents on the imaginary "important"
> scale. All classified documents are presumed "important," hence the
> classified designation. (But it doesn't matter, Joel is making up this
> bullshit as he goes anyhow. Previously he claimed, without basis, that Trump
> "paraded" classified documents.)
>
> The other problem for Joel is that, as president, Trump had the right to
> these documents and he could, at his discretion, declassify them. Not the
> case with VICE-president Biden (emphasis on "vice") and Secretary of State
> Clinton.

Why Joel Crump talks about politics is a mystery to me since he doesn't
seem to read anything and bases himself entirely on the progressive
television narrative. Much like Ahlstrom, we can replace Joel with the
RSS feed of some progressive faggot newspaper.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Racism and sexism don't exist because race and gender are "social
constructs"

On 2024-07-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 14:19:33 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 7/23/2024 5:33 AM, Relf wrote:
>>
>>> DFS tosses his vote away & he can't tell us who he prefers.
>>
>> A non-election-denying Republican that doesn't support the traitorous,
>> Kim Jong Un loving Donald Trump.
>
> Which neocon hack would that be? Trump isn't my idea of the ideal
> candidate but I did vote for him. I did not vote for McCain or Romney, the
> faces of the tradition GOP.

The "bag ladies" are screeching on the corner about Trump again. I don't
understand this irrational hatred of him. He's just another politician that
I've never voted for. Whenever I ask what EXACTLY did he do that has them so
rabidly frothy, I just get the sound of crickets. It's definitely an
emotional response, not a logical one.

The main advantage of Trump (probably the only advantage) is that he doesn't
go with the Woke "green energy" bullshit that will destroy our country. The
economy was definitely better under Trump. And that's pretty important.

As for McCain and Romney... ugh. If I had been forced to vote I would have
voted for Obama over either of them. That was pre-second term Obama — it was
in the second term that he became a race baiter... oh, wait a minute,
there aren't any races because, you know, "science" says so.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 7/23/24 2:30 PM, RonB wrote:
> ...
>
> And when Biden or Clinton take classified documents (which they had no right
> to take) ...

If they had legal access comes down to timelines, specifically on if
they were still an officeholder or not.

> ... it's supposedly "unimportant" classified documents.

It is less important stuff, plus there's also the factor on if they've
been compromised or not.

> But when Trump
> has a few classified documents amongst many other documents, these are (of
> course) "important" classified documents.

TS/SCI, Nuclear, DoD plans ... are all higher classification levels.

> Unfortunately for Joel's premise,
> the law doesn't rate classified documents on the imaginary "important"
> scale.

Yeah, it does, especially when the material was deliberately mishandled.

> All classified documents are presumed "important," hence the
> classified designation. (But it doesn't matter, Joel is making up this
> bullshit as he goes anyhow.

RonB has never had a security clearance to know any better.

> Previously he claimed, without basis, that Trump
> "paraded" classified documents.)

Oh, so you want cites because you're still a low information moron?

Here you go:

"6 Oct 2023
Former United States President Donald Trump shared classified
information about US nuclear submarines with a billionaire Australian
businessman [Anthony Pratt] shortly after he left office, in a meeting
at his Florida private members club, Mar-a-Lago..."

<https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/6/trump-revealed-us-nuclear-subs-secrets-to-australian-businessman-us-media>

> The other problem for Joel is that, as president, Trump had the right to
> these documents and he could, at his discretion, declassify them.

Nope. There's POTUS-signed Executive Orders which specifically identify
the documentation steps which are required, which Trump didn't follow.

Furthermore, there's actually includes some levels of classification
which are specifically exclude POTUS from having the legal authority to
unilaterally make a declassification decision.

> Not the
> case with VICE-president Biden (emphasis on "vice") and Secretary of State
> Clinton.
>

False, because when they're its OADR, they do have declass. authority.

-hh

On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-07-23 2:30 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-22 9:31 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet it's Trump who is charged with this, not Biden. Must be a
>>>>>> conspiracy, the deep state wants to take Trump down, blah blah, get
>>>>>> with reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> The same situation, only Trump gets charged.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-says>
>>>>>
>>>>> Luckily, the Supreme Court saw reason and dismissed the charges against
>>>>> Trump.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not the same situation at all. Not remotely. Trump took
>>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>>>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>>>> and condemn Biden.
>>>
>>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> And when Biden or Clinton take classified documents (which they had no right
>> to take) it's supposedly "unimportant" classified documents. But when Trump
>> has a few classified documents amongst many other documents, these are (of
>> course) "important" classified documents. Unfortunately for Joel's premise,
>> the law doesn't rate classified documents on the imaginary "important"
>> scale. All classified documents are presumed "important," hence the
>> classified designation. (But it doesn't matter, Joel is making up this
>> bullshit as he goes anyhow. Previously he claimed, without basis, that Trump
>> "paraded" classified documents.)
>>
>> The other problem for Joel is that, as president, Trump had the right to
>> these documents and he could, at his discretion, declassify them. Not the
>> case with VICE-president Biden (emphasis on "vice") and Secretary of State
>> Clinton.
>
> Why Joel Crump talks about politics is a mystery to me since he doesn't
> seem to read anything and bases himself entirely on the progressive
> television narrative. Much like Ahlstrom, we can replace Joel with the
> RSS feed of some progressive faggot newspaper.

The Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to have completely taken over their
"minds" (so-called). They mindlessly regurgitate this lying, anti-Trump
bullshit at the least provocation. It's just weird how rabid they are about
it. Trump is another politician, nothing more, nothing less. He does seem
more interested in making money than the Woke agenda, however, so maybe
that's their problem.

I wonder if there is a cure the Trump Derangement Syndrome?

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-07-23 3:20 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-23 2:30 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-22 9:31 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>>>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet it's Trump who is charged with this, not Biden. Must be a
>>>>>>> conspiracy, the deep state wants to take Trump down, blah blah, get
>>>>>>> with reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same situation, only Trump gets charged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-says>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Luckily, the Supreme Court saw reason and dismissed the charges against
>>>>>> Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not the same situation at all. Not remotely. Trump took
>>>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>>>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>>>>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>>>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>>>>> and condemn Biden.
>>>>
>>>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?
>>>
>>> Good point.
>>>
>>> And when Biden or Clinton take classified documents (which they had no right
>>> to take) it's supposedly "unimportant" classified documents. But when Trump
>>> has a few classified documents amongst many other documents, these are (of
>>> course) "important" classified documents. Unfortunately for Joel's premise,
>>> the law doesn't rate classified documents on the imaginary "important"
>>> scale. All classified documents are presumed "important," hence the
>>> classified designation. (But it doesn't matter, Joel is making up this
>>> bullshit as he goes anyhow. Previously he claimed, without basis, that Trump
>>> "paraded" classified documents.)
>>>
>>> The other problem for Joel is that, as president, Trump had the right to
>>> these documents and he could, at his discretion, declassify them. Not the
>>> case with VICE-president Biden (emphasis on "vice") and Secretary of State
>>> Clinton.
>>
>> Why Joel Crump talks about politics is a mystery to me since he doesn't
>> seem to read anything and bases himself entirely on the progressive
>> television narrative. Much like Ahlstrom, we can replace Joel with the
>> RSS feed of some progressive faggot newspaper.
>
> The Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to have completely taken over their
> "minds" (so-called). They mindlessly regurgitate this lying, anti-Trump
> bullshit at the least provocation. It's just weird how rabid they are about
> it. Trump is another politician, nothing more, nothing less. He does seem
> more interested in making money than the Woke agenda, however, so maybe
> that's their problem.
>
> I wonder if there is a cure the Trump Derangement Syndrome?

Honestly, there isn't. The moment people become woke, the next step is a
hanging. It's one thing to be a little progressive, but the moment you
become woke you not only want to destroy society but humanity and
decency as a whole. I have no sympathy for these people anymore,
especially since they shot at a former president and those not directly
responsible for the act at least sympathize with it.

Ahlstrom and Crump probably got hard at the thought that the man might
have been killed. If Crooks had succeeded, I imagine Crump would have
invited Ahlstrom over for a fuck. I'm not sure how that works with two
bottoms though.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Racism and sexism don't exist because race and gender are "social
constructs"

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:49:46 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> As for McCain and Romney... ugh. If I had been forced to vote I would
> have voted for Obama over either of them. That was pre-second term Obama
> — it was in the second term that he became a race baiter... oh, wait a
> minute,
> there aren't any races because, you know, "science" says so.

https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/
0,28804,1929415_1929418_1929404,00.html

No, he wasted no time to jump in with both feet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/obama-legacy/henry-louis-
gates-jr-arrest-controversy.html

"In that moment, any notion that Obama’s election had transformed America
into some kind of post-racial society was shattered. In general, blacks
agreed with him and whites thought he played the race card."

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:22:33 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I had to look up Jackson Lee. She just died last Friday. May she rest in
> peace. I think I remember some of her idiocy now that you've brought her
> up,
> but I don't follow Congress very closely. They seem completely unable to
> get anything done, except when the "Deep State" wants it done, then they
> can get legislation through lightning quick.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-constitution-is-400-years-old-and-more-
pearls-from-sheila-jackson-lee

The woman had a BA from Yale and a JD from University of Virginia. I'll
leave others to draw their own conclusions.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:44:19 -0400, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in
<ECUnO.166942$SLqf.144356@fx15.iad>:

> On 2024-07-23 3:20 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-23 2:30 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-22 9:31 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost
>>>>>>>>>> reelection, and stolen sensitive documents that when shown
>>>>>>>>>> around like trophies jeopardize our intelligence agents, or
>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted
>>>>>>>>> form who stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at
>>>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And yet it's Trump who is charged with this, not Biden. Must be
>>>>>>>> a conspiracy, the deep state wants to take Trump down, blah blah,
>>>>>>>> get with reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The same situation, only Trump gets charged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-
classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-
says>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Luckily, the Supreme Court saw reason and dismissed the charges
>>>>>>> against Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not the same situation at all. Not remotely. Trump took
>>>>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused
>>>>>> to return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH,
>>>>>> cooperated, and was given a break. Funny how that works. But you
>>>>>> can't be objective,
>>>>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT
>>>>>> does,
>>>>>> and condemn Biden.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your
>>>>> home, Joel?
>>>>
>>>> Good point.
>>>>
>>>> And when Biden or Clinton take classified documents (which they had
>>>> no right to take) it's supposedly "unimportant" classified documents.
>>>> But when Trump has a few classified documents amongst many other
>>>> documents, these are (of course) "important" classified documents.
>>>> Unfortunately for Joel's premise, the law doesn't rate classified
>>>> documents on the imaginary "important" scale. All classified
>>>> documents are presumed "important," hence the classified designation.
>>>> (But it doesn't matter, Joel is making up this bullshit as he goes
>>>> anyhow. Previously he claimed, without basis, that Trump "paraded"
>>>> classified documents.)
>>>>
>>>> The other problem for Joel is that, as president, Trump had the right
>>>> to these documents and he could, at his discretion, declassify them.
>>>> Not the case with VICE-president Biden (emphasis on "vice") and
>>>> Secretary of State Clinton.
>>>
>>> Why Joel Crump talks about politics is a mystery to me since he
>>> doesn't seem to read anything and bases himself entirely on the
>>> progressive television narrative. Much like Ahlstrom, we can replace
>>> Joel with the RSS feed of some progressive faggot newspaper.
>>
>> The Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to have completely taken over
>> their "minds" (so-called). They mindlessly regurgitate this lying,
>> anti-Trump bullshit at the least provocation. It's just weird how rabid
>> they are about it. Trump is another politician, nothing more, nothing
>> less. He does seem more interested in making money than the Woke
>> agenda, however, so maybe that's their problem.
>>
>> I wonder if there is a cure the Trump Derangement Syndrome?
>
> Honestly, there isn't. The moment people become woke, the next step is a
> hanging. It's one thing to be a little progressive, but the moment you
> become woke you not only want to destroy society but humanity and
> decency as a whole. I have no sympathy for these people anymore,
> especially since they shot at a former president and those not directly
> responsible for the act at least sympathize with it.

If you know of someone on Usenet "sympathizing" with said act,
I'd like to know who it is.

I've seen exactly one wacko talk that way. As I've said elsewhere:
I may not like Himbo, but political violence and extremism
are intolerable.

> Ahlstrom and Crump probably got hard at the thought that the man might
> have been killed.

You have no evidence for anything like this. Please cease your
parataxic distortion.

--
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OS: Linux 6.9.10 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>> Trump took
>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>> and condemn Biden.
>
>How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?

That wasn't the beginning of it, obviously, they tried to do this
without such a dramatic deal, Trump likes it to be dramatic,
obviously, he says "FU" to everyone who challenges his Hitler
authority, he's a piece of shit. Even DFS can see that he's trash,
and he is someone who refuses to vote Democrat.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-07-23 3:20 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-23 2:30 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-22 9:31 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>>>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>>>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>>>>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And yet it's Trump who is charged with this, not Biden. Must be a
>>>>>>>> conspiracy, the deep state wants to take Trump down, blah blah, get
>>>>>>>> with reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The same situation, only Trump gets charged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-willfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-no-criminal-charges-warranted-special-counsel-says>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Luckily, the Supreme Court saw reason and dismissed the charges against
>>>>>>> Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not the same situation at all. Not remotely. Trump took
>>>>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>>>>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>>>>>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>>>>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>>>>>> and condemn Biden.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?
>>>>
>>>> Good point.
>>>>
>>>> And when Biden or Clinton take classified documents (which they had no right
>>>> to take) it's supposedly "unimportant" classified documents. But when Trump
>>>> has a few classified documents amongst many other documents, these are (of
>>>> course) "important" classified documents. Unfortunately for Joel's premise,
>>>> the law doesn't rate classified documents on the imaginary "important"
>>>> scale. All classified documents are presumed "important," hence the
>>>> classified designation. (But it doesn't matter, Joel is making up this
>>>> bullshit as he goes anyhow. Previously he claimed, without basis, that Trump
>>>> "paraded" classified documents.)
>>>>
>>>> The other problem for Joel is that, as president, Trump had the right to
>>>> these documents and he could, at his discretion, declassify them. Not the
>>>> case with VICE-president Biden (emphasis on "vice") and Secretary of State
>>>> Clinton.
>>>
>>> Why Joel Crump talks about politics is a mystery to me since he doesn't
>>> seem to read anything and bases himself entirely on the progressive
>>> television narrative. Much like Ahlstrom, we can replace Joel with the
>>> RSS feed of some progressive faggot newspaper.
>>
>> The Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to have completely taken over their
>> "minds" (so-called). They mindlessly regurgitate this lying, anti-Trump
>> bullshit at the least provocation. It's just weird how rabid they are about
>> it. Trump is another politician, nothing more, nothing less. He does seem
>> more interested in making money than the Woke agenda, however, so maybe
>> that's their problem.
>>
>> I wonder if there is a cure the Trump Derangement Syndrome?
>
> Honestly, there isn't. The moment people become woke, the next step is a
> hanging. It's one thing to be a little progressive, but the moment you
> become woke you not only want to destroy society but humanity and
> decency as a whole. I have no sympathy for these people anymore,
> especially since they shot at a former president and those not directly
> responsible for the act at least sympathize with it.

You're right about Woke anarchy and the fact they want to destroy it society
(especially what was formally Christendom). They may not know it, but that's
the aim of their puppeteers.

> Ahlstrom and Crump probably got hard at the thought that the man might
> have been killed. If Crooks had succeeded, I imagine Crump would have
> invited Ahlstrom over for a fuck. I'm not sure how that works with two
> bottoms though.

Ugh.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>On 2024-07-22 10:51 p.m., Joel wrote:
>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-22 7:08 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's now come out that immediately after the shooting the secret
>>>>>> service lied about denying Trump's requests for additional security.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An "untrue assertion" and "absolutely false" we were told.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But they now admit that they lied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FFS. Is there one branch of the government that is *not* shitty,
>>>>>> lying incompetents?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://x.com/SecretSvcSpox/status/1812451649387933912
>>>>>
>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>
>>> Poor Joel. Clueless as usual.
>>>
>>> As for the classified documents at Trump's estate. No one has claimed they
>>> were shown like "trophies,"... completely made up. But, more importantly, as
>>> president, Trump could de-classify any classified document. Vice-president
>>> Biden did NOT have that privilege.
>>
>> Poor Ron, accusing me of being clueless as he spews nonsense.
>
>Which part is nonsense? Biden did not have the privilege and Trump
>indeed did. There is no lie there as the Supreme Court determined when
>they dismissed the charges against Trump for this very matter.

Oh the Supreme Court said that, well, see my extra text in my sig, to
settle that. I'm the authority, not Alito, not Trump. I'm not going
to entertain the known-to-be authoritarian, constitution-denying
"Supreme Court", which is a club for Clarence Thomas and the other
four who voted for Alito's opinion in Dobbs, to prop up Trump's
attempt at dictatorship, and turn women's internal organs into state
property.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-07-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:22:33 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I had to look up Jackson Lee. She just died last Friday. May she rest in
>> peace. I think I remember some of her idiocy now that you've brought her
>> up,
>> but I don't follow Congress very closely. They seem completely unable to
>> get anything done, except when the "Deep State" wants it done, then they
>> can get legislation through lightning quick.
>
> https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-constitution-is-400-years-old-and-more-
> pearls-from-sheila-jackson-lee
>
> The woman had a BA from Yale and a JD from University of Virginia. I'll
> leave others to draw their own conclusions.

Good grief. What a hag. And this was in written in the "ultra-conservative"
Daily Beast. And she graduated from Yale and the University of Virginia...
in the 1970s? I didn't realize they were that worthless that far back.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>Why Joel Crump talks about politics is a mystery to me since he doesn't
>seem to read anything and bases himself entirely on the progressive
>television narrative. Much like Ahlstrom, we can replace Joel with the
>RSS feed of some progressive faggot newspaper.

Are you serious? Politics is my *career*, I'm a player at the
international level, I just haven't come out from under the table,
yet. I don't watch MSNBC because I don't even have cable TV, I can
watch PBS NewsHour if I feel like it, but any network/cable news
annoys the fuck out of me. I get news on the Web, primarily.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>Ahlstrom and Crump probably got hard at the thought that the man might
>have been killed. If Crooks had succeeded, I imagine Crump would have
>invited Ahlstrom over for a fuck. I'm not sure how that works with two
>bottoms though.

Keep up, dude, I said plainly that I was appalled at the shooting at
the Trump rally. Sane people are not for gun violence, even when it's
one of our own, misguided, people doing the shooting. It's the wrong
way to handle political differences. I'm gonna help make DJT defeated
again, by voting, not by shooting.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-07-23 8:11 p.m., Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>
>>> Trump took
>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>>> and condemn Biden.
>>
>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?
>
>
> That wasn't the beginning of it, obviously, they tried to do this
> without such a dramatic deal, Trump likes it to be dramatic,
> obviously, he says "FU" to everyone who challenges his Hitler
> authority, he's a piece of shit. Even DFS can see that he's trash,
> and he is someone who refuses to vote Democrat.

Wow, it really didn't take long for Joel Crump to provide evidence of
exactly what I just said.

The man was shot at less than two weeks ago and here is the resident
cretinous faggot already calling him Hitler.

Please provide a table comparing Hitler's policies to Trump's, you
overheating jackass.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Racism and sexism don't exist because race and gender are "social
constructs"

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>>>> Trump took
>>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>>>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>>>> and condemn Biden.
>>>
>>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?
>>
>> That wasn't the beginning of it, obviously, they tried to do this
>> without such a dramatic deal, Trump likes it to be dramatic,
>> obviously, he says "FU" to everyone who challenges his Hitler
>> authority, he's a piece of shit. Even DFS can see that he's trash,
>> and he is someone who refuses to vote Democrat.
>
>Wow, it really didn't take long for Joel Crump to provide evidence of
>exactly what I just said.
>
>The man was shot at less than two weeks ago and here is the resident
>cretinous faggot already calling him Hitler.
>
>Please provide a table comparing Hitler's policies to Trump's, you
>overheating jackass.

I'm saying that DJT is the reincarnation of Hitler, literally. That's
what makes him so special, and magically able to get votes from people
who you can't believe could even figure out how to register to vote.
He's the antichrist. I'm the real second coming, and you don't
believe it because I'm a freaky bisexual and whatnot. You're obsessed
with believing in white superiority, it's just an illusion, it's
holding you back, you're a slave to Satan. Satan is a white
nationalist.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-07-23 8:29 p.m., Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-22 10:51 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-22 7:08 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's now come out that immediately after the shooting the secret
>>>>>>> service lied about denying Trump's requests for additional security.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An "untrue assertion" and "absolutely false" we were told.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But they now admit that they lied.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FFS. Is there one branch of the government that is *not* shitty,
>>>>>>> lying incompetents?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://x.com/SecretSvcSpox/status/1812451649387933912
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's almost like Trump had tried a coup after he lost reelection, and
>>>>>> stolen sensitive documents that when shown around like trophies
>>>>>> jeopardize our intelligence agents, or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds to me like you confused him with the corpse you voted form who
>>>>> stored sensitive documents next to his sports car at home.
>>>>
>>>> Poor Joel. Clueless as usual.
>>>>
>>>> As for the classified documents at Trump's estate. No one has claimed they
>>>> were shown like "trophies,"... completely made up. But, more importantly, as
>>>> president, Trump could de-classify any classified document. Vice-president
>>>> Biden did NOT have that privilege.
>>>
>>> Poor Ron, accusing me of being clueless as he spews nonsense.
>>
>> Which part is nonsense? Biden did not have the privilege and Trump
>> indeed did. There is no lie there as the Supreme Court determined when
>> they dismissed the charges against Trump for this very matter.
>
>
> Oh the Supreme Court said that, well, see my extra text in my sig, to
> settle that. I'm the authority, not Alito, not Trump.

The only thing you're an authority on is wanking.

> I'm not going
> to entertain the known-to-be authoritarian, constitution-denying
> "Supreme Court", which is a club for Clarence Thomas and the other
> four who voted for Alito's opinion in Dobbs, to prop up Trump's
> attempt at dictatorship, and turn women's internal organs into state
> property.

I kneel to thee Lord Wank-a-lot.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Racism and sexism don't exist because race and gender are "social
constructs"

vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:44:19 -0400, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in
>
> <k00ksnip>
>
> You have no evidence for anything like this. Please cease your
> parataxic distortion.

Ron and Slimer have gone off the rails.

--
Chicken Little only has to be right once.

On 2024-07-24 7:31 a.m., Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>
>>>>> Trump took
>>>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>>>> return them, was combative about it all. Biden, OTOH, cooperated, and
>>>>> was given a break. Funny how that works. But you can't be objective,
>>>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT does,
>>>>> and condemn Biden.
>>>>
>>>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your home, Joel?
>>>
>>> That wasn't the beginning of it, obviously, they tried to do this
>>> without such a dramatic deal, Trump likes it to be dramatic,
>>> obviously, he says "FU" to everyone who challenges his Hitler
>>> authority, he's a piece of shit. Even DFS can see that he's trash,
>>> and he is someone who refuses to vote Democrat.
>>
>> Wow, it really didn't take long for Joel Crump to provide evidence of
>> exactly what I just said.
>>
>> The man was shot at less than two weeks ago and here is the resident
>> cretinous faggot already calling him Hitler.
>>
>> Please provide a table comparing Hitler's policies to Trump's, you
>> overheating jackass.
>
>
> I'm saying that DJT is the reincarnation of Hitler, literally.

Moron.

> That's
> what makes him so special, and magically able to get votes from people
> who you can't believe could even figure out how to register to vote.
> He's the antichrist.

You know nothing of Christianity and are therefore ill equipped to
comment on who is or isn't the Anti-Christ. Trump is not the one pushing
a religion that is contrary to Christ; you faggots are.

> I'm the real second coming, and you don't
> believe it because I'm a freaky bisexual and whatnot.

More moronic behaviour.

> You're obsessed
> with believing in white superiority, it's just an illusion, it's
> holding you back, you're a slave to Satan. Satan is a white
> nationalist.

It's not White superiority, it's White survival at this point. From
every direction, organization, communities and cultures are trying to
destroy what we have built.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Racism and sexism don't exist because race and gender are "social
constructs"

-hh wrote:

>The problem that Cheatle has is that the stuff that the Congressmen
>wanted her to speak on (in public) are CUI, SBU & classified data: it
>violates her security clearance to say those in a non-secure venue.

Oh, the number of shell casings found on the roof, which she refused
to answer, is "classified", is it?

You're an idiot, defending the indefensible. Again.

Your response will be deleted unread. Again.

On 2024-07-24 10:04 a.m., chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
>> The problem that Cheatle has is that the stuff that the Congressmen
>> wanted her to speak on (in public) are CUI, SBU & classified data: it
>> violates her security clearance to say those in a non-secure venue.
>
> Oh, the number of shell casings found on the roof, which she refused
> to answer, is "classified", is it?
>
> You're an idiot, defending the indefensible. Again.
>
> Your response will be deleted unread. Again.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On 2024-07-24 10:04 a.m., chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
>> The problem that Cheatle has is that the stuff that the Congressmen
>> wanted her to speak on (in public) are CUI, SBU & classified data: it
>> violates her security clearance to say those in a non-secure venue.
>
> Oh, the number of shell casings found on the roof, which she refused
> to answer, is "classified", is it?
>
> You're an idiot, defending the indefensible. Again.
>
> Your response will be deleted unread. Again.

Whoops, I posted that too quickly. Awesome reply.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On 7/24/24 8:25 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2024-07-24 7:31 a.m., Joel wrote:
>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Trump took
>>>>>> specific things that really were sensitive, intentionally, refused to
>>>>>> return them, was combative about it all.  Biden, OTOH, cooperated,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> was given a break.  Funny how that works.  But you can't be
>>>>>> objective,
>>>>>> because of your political biases, you just tolerate anything DJT
>>>>>> does,
>>>>>> and condemn Biden.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you cooperate with a SWAT team that suddenly attacks your
>>>>> home, Joel?
>>>>
>>>> That wasn't the beginning of it, obviously, they tried to do this
>>>> without such a dramatic deal, Trump likes it to be dramatic,
>>>> obviously, he says "FU" to everyone who challenges his Hitler
>>>> authority, he's a piece of shit.  Even DFS can see that he's trash,
>>>> and he is someone who refuses to vote Democrat.
>>>
>>> Wow, it really didn't take long for Joel Crump to provide evidence of
>>> exactly what I just said.
>>>
>>> The man was shot at less than two weeks ago and here is the resident
>>> cretinous faggot already calling him Hitler.
>>>
>>> Please provide a table comparing Hitler's policies to Trump's, you
>>> overheating jackass.
>>
>>
>> I'm saying that DJT is the reincarnation of Hitler, literally.
>
> Moron.
>
>> That's
>> what makes him so special, and magically able to get votes from people
>> who you can't believe could even figure out how to register to vote.
>> He's the antichrist.
>
> You know nothing of Christianity and are therefore ill equipped to
> comment on who is or isn't the Anti-Christ. Trump is not the one pushing
> a religion that is contrary to Christ; you faggots are.

Fun fact: the origins of free public education, paid for by the State,
was religiously based.

Specifically, Presbyterian Minister John Knox in Glasgow, Scotland: the
religious tenant was that every Christian should be literate so as to be
able to read the Bible on their own, instead of be told.

>> I'm the real second coming, and you don't
>> believe it because I'm a freaky bisexual and whatnot.
>
> More moronic behaviour.
>
>> You're obsessed
>> with believing in white superiority, it's just an illusion, it's
>> holding you back, you're a slave to Satan.  Satan is a white
>> nationalist.
>
> It's not White superiority, it's White survival at this point. From
> every direction, organization, communities and cultures are trying to
> destroy what we have built.

"Destroy?" Just what white-only constructs have you erected that you
believe are actually worth preserving? Slavery? The KKK? Jim Crow?
Nazism? Redlining? Nepotism? Misogynistic Evangelical Churches?
Be specific, clearly identifying how it is actually supportive of US
Constitutional principles of equality for all, instead of destructive.

Because your words certainly sound like you're revealing that you've
fallen for a political strategy which LBJ noted 50+ years ago:

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best
colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him
somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

-hh