Nearly every Apple or iPhone commercial has blacks in them.

Specifically black males on slobbering wigger white left-wing fems.

Blacks are at most a 14% market.

Other ethnic group segments that use Apple products are generally
lowbrow weak and useless.

AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and others are all pushing iPhone junk using
these racist commercials.

Apple is a racist corporation and needs to learn some social lessons.

Don't spend your money on Apple products.

Sales <sales@drpepper.com> wrote:

>Nearly every Apple or iPhone commercial has blacks in them.
>
>Specifically black males on slobbering wigger white left-wing fems.
>
>Blacks are at most a 14% market.
>
>Other ethnic group segments that use Apple products are generally
>lowbrow weak and useless.
>
>AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and others are all pushing iPhone junk using
>these racist commercials.
>
>Apple is a racist corporation and needs to learn some social lessons.
>
>Don't spend your money on Apple products.

What the fuck do you care about their commercials, Kid Rock? This is
how people are led into making irrational decisions. There are plenty
of good reasons not to use Apple's products, beyond mere advertising.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 15:47, Joel wrote:
> Sales <sales@drpepper.com> wrote:
>
>> Nearly every Apple or iPhone commercial has blacks in them.
>>
>> Specifically black males on slobbering wigger white left-wing fems.
>>
>> Blacks are at most a 14% market.
>>
>> Other ethnic group segments that use Apple products are generally
>> lowbrow weak and useless.
>>
>> AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and others are all pushing iPhone junk using
>> these racist commercials.
>>
>> Apple is a racist corporation and needs to learn some social lessons.
>>
>> Don't spend your money on Apple products.
>
>
> What the fuck do you care about their commercials, Kid Rock? This is
> how people are led into making irrational decisions. There are plenty
> of good reasons not to use Apple's products, beyond mere advertising.
>

Reasons such as what: how simple they are to use?

How (relatively) trouble free?

I support computer users for a living and every time I convince someone
to buy a Mac, I basically lose a customer.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-07 15:47, Joel wrote:
>> Sales <sales@drpepper.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nearly every Apple or iPhone commercial has blacks in them.
>>>
>>> Don't spend your money on Apple products.
>>
>> What the fuck do you care about their commercials, Kid Rock? This is
>> how people are led into making irrational decisions. There are plenty
>> of good reasons not to use Apple's products, beyond mere advertising.
>
>Reasons such as what: how simple they are to use?
>
>How (relatively) trouble free?
>
>I support computer users for a living and every time I convince someone
>to buy a Mac, I basically lose a customer.

Apple gear is OK. But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
the frontier of software freedom.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 16:12, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-07 15:47, Joel wrote:
>>> Sales <sales@drpepper.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nearly every Apple or iPhone commercial has blacks in them.
>>>>
>>>> Don't spend your money on Apple products.
>>>
>>> What the fuck do you care about their commercials, Kid Rock? This is
>>> how people are led into making irrational decisions. There are plenty
>>> of good reasons not to use Apple's products, beyond mere advertising.
>>
>> Reasons such as what: how simple they are to use?
>>
>> How (relatively) trouble free?
>>
>> I support computer users for a living and every time I convince someone
>> to buy a Mac, I basically lose a customer.
>
>
> Apple gear is OK.

You're contradicting yourself....

....again.

> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
> the frontier of software freedom.
What makes it "quirky"?

Be specific.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> Apple gear is OK.
>
>You're contradicting yourself....
>
>...again.

I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.

>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>> the frontier of software freedom.
>What makes it "quirky"?
>
>Be specific.

Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
finite.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 16:59, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> Apple gear is OK.
>>
>> You're contradicting yourself....
>>
>> ...again.
>
>
> I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.

Actually, you said PRECISELY that.

Do you want me to pull up the quotes?

>
>
>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>
>> Be specific.
>
>
> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
> finite.
Not an answer.

Try again.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> Apple gear is OK.
>>>
>>> You're contradicting yourself....
>>>
>>> ...again.
>>
>> I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.
>
>Actually, you said PRECISELY that.
>
>Do you want me to pull up the quotes?

Right, I said Apple hardware is overpriced. That was implicit, heh.

>>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>
>>> Be specific.
>>
>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>> finite.
>Not an answer.
>
>Try again.

It's definitely an answer. The reality of what I got is far better.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-12-07 16:59, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Apple gear is OK.
>>>
>>> You're contradicting yourself....
>>>
>>> ...again.
>>
>>
>> I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.
>
> Actually, you said PRECISELY that.
>
> Do you want me to pull up the quotes?
>
>>
>>
>>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>
>>> Be specific.
>>
>>
>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>> finite.
> Not an answer.
>
> Try again.

My local school district had been using Windows laptops for the students (middle and high school) but
they had tons of issues with them. In fairness they were low line Dell models and not built like the
professional business class line but many issues were software based, students figuring out how to bypass the
locked down machine and so forth.

So in their infinite wisdom the moron school board decided to switch to Chromebooks.
This decision was based upon the advice of a "consultant" who turned out to be a relative of
one of the school board members.
Anyway, this technology swap had issues from day one.
Serious issues.

So finally they decided to move to Apple Macbooks, middle tier model, and for the past 3 years things
have been peachy.
Like you say, the IT department was basically like the Maytag repairman and put out of business.
Software wise most if not everything is in the cloud so that's no problem.
The laptops are locked down and students are unable to crack them.
Mechanically they are like business class Thinkpads and are indestructible for the most part.

My tax dollars hard at work :)

--
pothead

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On 2024-12-07 17:18, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> Apple gear is OK.
>>>>
>>>> You're contradicting yourself....
>>>>
>>>> ...again.
>>>
>>> I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.
>>
>> Actually, you said PRECISELY that.
>>
>> Do you want me to pull up the quotes?
>
>
> Right, I said Apple hardware is overpriced. That was implicit, heh.
>
>
>>>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>>
>>>> Be specific.
>>>
>>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>>> finite.
>> Not an answer.
>>
>> Try again.
>
>
> It's definitely an answer. The reality of what I got is far better.
>

No... ...it really isn't.

What makes "running macOS"... ...quirky?

On 2024-12-07 17:21, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-12-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-07 16:59, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Apple gear is OK.
>>>>
>>>> You're contradicting yourself....
>>>>
>>>> ...again.
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.
>>
>> Actually, you said PRECISELY that.
>>
>> Do you want me to pull up the quotes?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>>
>>>> Be specific.
>>>
>>>
>>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>>> finite.
>> Not an answer.
>>
>> Try again.
>
> My local school district had been using Windows laptops for the students (middle and high school) but
> they had tons of issues with them. In fairness they were low line Dell models and not built like the
> professional business class line but many issues were software based, students figuring out how to bypass the
> locked down machine and so forth.
>
> So in their infinite wisdom the moron school board decided to switch to Chromebooks.
> This decision was based upon the advice of a "consultant" who turned out to be a relative of
> one of the school board members.
> Anyway, this technology swap had issues from day one.
> Serious issues.
>
> So finally they decided to move to Apple Macbooks, middle tier model, and for the past 3 years things
> have been peachy.
> Like you say, the IT department was basically like the Maytag repairman and put out of business.
> Software wise most if not everything is in the cloud so that's no problem.
> The laptops are locked down and students are unable to crack them.
> Mechanically they are like business class Thinkpads and are indestructible for the most part.
>
> My tax dollars hard at work :)
Exactly.

Back in the days before Mac OS X was first released, I made my living
mostly by supporting Mac users through the trials of keeping Mac OS 9/8
running (Mac OS 7 and before, my primary role wasn't support).

They loved it and what it let them do, but there were ongoing challenges
keeping it running smoothly and stably.

Since the day that Mac OS X went golden, I've seen my work for Mac-using
customers dwindle to next to nothing.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> But it's [using a Mac] the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Be specific.
>>>>
>>>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>>>> finite.
>>> Not an answer.
>>>
>>> Try again.
>>
>> It's definitely an answer. The reality of what I got is far better.
>
>No... ...it really isn't.
>
>What makes "running macOS"... ...quirky?

I have a computer that makes sense, but is unlimited in options. You
made a choice of an OEM's computer, just an exceptional one, Apple's.
You wish to justify it with rationales that don't really hit pay dirt.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-07 16:59, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>>
>>>> Be specific.
>>>
>>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>>> finite.
>> Not an answer.
>>
>> Try again.
>
>My local school district had been using Windows laptops for the students (middle and high school) but
>they had tons of issues with them. In fairness they were low line Dell models and not built like the
>professional business class line but many issues were software based, students figuring out how to bypass the
>locked down machine and so forth.
>
>So in their infinite wisdom the moron school board decided to switch to Chromebooks.
>This decision was based upon the advice of a "consultant" who turned out to be a relative of
>one of the school board members.
>Anyway, this technology swap had issues from day one.
>Serious issues.
>
>So finally they decided to move to Apple Macbooks, middle tier model, and for the past 3 years things
>have been peachy.
>Like you say, the IT department was basically like the Maytag repairman and put out of business.
>Software wise most if not everything is in the cloud so that's no problem.
>The laptops are locked down and students are unable to crack them.
>Mechanically they are like business class Thinkpads and are indestructible for the most part.
>
>My tax dollars hard at work :)

You live in a weird place, but I guess I comprehend the whole hating
to finance kids that aren't yours thing, albeit we were all kids once.
I support public education.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-12-07 17:21, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-12-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-07 16:59, Joel wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Apple gear is OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're contradicting yourself....
>>>>>
>>>>> ...again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.
>>>
>>> Actually, you said PRECISELY that.
>>>
>>> Do you want me to pull up the quotes?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Be specific.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>>>> finite.
>>> Not an answer.
>>>
>>> Try again.
>>
>> My local school district had been using Windows laptops for the students (middle and high school) but
>> they had tons of issues with them. In fairness they were low line Dell models and not built like the
>> professional business class line but many issues were software based, students figuring out how to bypass the
>> locked down machine and so forth.
>>
>> So in their infinite wisdom the moron school board decided to switch to Chromebooks.
>> This decision was based upon the advice of a "consultant" who turned out to be a relative of
>> one of the school board members.
>> Anyway, this technology swap had issues from day one.
>> Serious issues.
>>
>> So finally they decided to move to Apple Macbooks, middle tier model, and for the past 3 years things
>> have been peachy.
>> Like you say, the IT department was basically like the Maytag repairman and put out of business.
>> Software wise most if not everything is in the cloud so that's no problem.
>> The laptops are locked down and students are unable to crack them.
>> Mechanically they are like business class Thinkpads and are indestructible for the most part.
>>
>> My tax dollars hard at work :)
> Exactly.
>
> Back in the days before Mac OS X was first released, I made my living
> mostly by supporting Mac users through the trials of keeping Mac OS 9/8
> running (Mac OS 7 and before, my primary role wasn't support).
>
> They loved it and what it let them do, but there were ongoing challenges
> keeping it running smoothly and stably.
>
> Since the day that Mac OS X went golden, I've seen my work for Mac-using
> customers dwindle to next to nothing.

Yep.
And the cloud has helped tremendously for Apple and Linux as well.
No need to have native/local applications.
The Macs interface fine with the "magic whiteboard" the schools use and so forth.

My opinion of the Apple devices is you have to compare "apples" with apples and
look at the total package, performance and features in a given price range.

For example supporting 6 (I think?) 4k monitors out of the box is insane.
And benchmarks, as usual, don't tell the entire story because the software that
the user is running has a major effect on the performance. It's not just OS efficiency.

--
pothead

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<https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html>

On 2024-12-07 17:33, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> But it's [using a Mac] the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>>>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be specific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>>>>> finite.
>>>> Not an answer.
>>>>
>>>> Try again.
>>>
>>> It's definitely an answer. The reality of what I got is far better.
>>
>> No... ...it really isn't.
>>
>> What makes "running macOS"... ...quirky?
>
>
> I have a computer that makes sense, but is unlimited in options. You
> made a choice of an OEM's computer, just an exceptional one, Apple's.
> You wish to justify it with rationales that don't really hit pay dirt.
>

You still haven't answered.

On 2024-12-08, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>On 2024-12-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-07 16:59, Joel wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>>>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>>>>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Be specific.
>>>>
>>>> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
>>>> finite.
>>> Not an answer.
>>>
>>> Try again.
>>
>>My local school district had been using Windows laptops for the students (middle and high school) but
>>they had tons of issues with them. In fairness they were low line Dell models and not built like the
>>professional business class line but many issues were software based, students figuring out how to bypass the
>>locked down machine and so forth.
>>
>>So in their infinite wisdom the moron school board decided to switch to Chromebooks.
>>This decision was based upon the advice of a "consultant" who turned out to be a relative of
>>one of the school board members.
>>Anyway, this technology swap had issues from day one.
>>Serious issues.
>>
>>So finally they decided to move to Apple Macbooks, middle tier model, and for the past 3 years things
>>have been peachy.
>>Like you say, the IT department was basically like the Maytag repairman and put out of business.
>>Software wise most if not everything is in the cloud so that's no problem.
>>The laptops are locked down and students are unable to crack them.
>>Mechanically they are like business class Thinkpads and are indestructible for the most part.
>>
>>My tax dollars hard at work :)
>
>
> You live in a weird place, but I guess I comprehend the whole hating
> to finance kids that aren't yours thing, albeit we were all kids once.
> I support public education.

Please stop making false assumptions.
I put 3 kids through college, all with masters degrees in high paying fields
where they had jobs before they even graduated.

No gender studies or underwater basket weaving degrees here.
That was established from day one.
You want to earn a useless degree, do it on your own dime.

I prefer my tax dollars are spent wisely and not wasted on leeches like snit
who refuse to work even when they can and thus become parasites on the system.

I would rather give away the $19k per year I pay in property taxes to homeless
people (not illegals) living on the streets than waste a dime on a leech like snit.

--
pothead

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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> What makes "running macOS"... ...quirky?
>>
>> I have a computer that makes sense, but is unlimited in options. You
>> made a choice of an OEM's computer, just an exceptional one, Apple's.
>> You wish to justify it with rationales that don't really hit pay dirt.
>
>You still haven't answered.

I want to like macOS, being a Unix system. But everything Apple-
centric is just glued onto that. It's not fundamentally different
from Windows, or a lot of Linux distros, but why should I be so
obsessed with having Apple's quirky take on personal computing? Why
can't I use my human intelligence to build a PC, unbound by Apple?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 18:01, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> What makes "running macOS"... ...quirky?
>>>
>>> I have a computer that makes sense, but is unlimited in options. You
>>> made a choice of an OEM's computer, just an exceptional one, Apple's.
>>> You wish to justify it with rationales that don't really hit pay dirt.
>>
>> You still haven't answered.
>
>
> I want to like macOS, being a Unix system. But everything Apple-
> centric is just glued onto that. It's not fundamentally different
> from Windows, or a lot of Linux distros, but why should I be so
> obsessed with having Apple's quirky take on personal computing? Why
> can't I use my human intelligence to build a PC, unbound by Apple?
>

All of this is EVASION.

You claimed it is "quirky"...

....so actually give an example.

On 12/7/24 7:59 PM, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> Apple gear is OK.
>>
>> You're contradicting yourself....
>>
>> ...again.
>
> I didn't say it wasn't overpriced, I said it was acceptable quality.

Gosh, that's a change.

>>> But it's the same as it ever was, quirky. Linux is
>>> the frontier of software freedom.
>> What makes it "quirky"?
>>
>> Be specific.
>
> Running macOS, for one. But certainly the hardware options are
> finite.

Name a company whose hardware options *aren't* finite.

Because it is grossly disingenuous to try to compare what one company
offers to the grand sum of the rest of the companies of that industry.

-hh

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> What makes "running macOS"... ...quirky?
>>>>
>>>> I have a computer that makes sense, but is unlimited in options. You
>>>> made a choice of an OEM's computer, just an exceptional one, Apple's.
>>>> You wish to justify it with rationales that don't really hit pay dirt.
>>>
>>> You still haven't answered.
>>
>> I want to like macOS, being a Unix system. But everything Apple-
>> centric is just glued onto that. It's not fundamentally different
>> from Windows, or a lot of Linux distros, but why should I be so
>> obsessed with having Apple's quirky take on personal computing? Why
>> can't I use my human intelligence to build a PC, unbound by Apple?
>
>All of this is EVASION.
>
>You claimed it is "quirky"...
>
>...so actually give an example.

I just don't understand the thought that it'd be crazy to say that,
you accept Apple copying BSD as if it's an achievement. There was a
person at M$ who coded something from scratch. Linus Torvalds, and
countless Microsoft developers, have more credentials than anyone at
Apple.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>> certainly the [Apple's] hardware options are
>> finite.
>
>Name a company whose hardware options *aren't* finite.
>
>Because it is grossly disingenuous to try to compare what one company
>offers to the grand sum of the rest of the companies of that industry.

Micro Center and Newegg each offer essentially limitless possibilities
with hardware.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-08, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>> certainly the [Apple's] hardware options are
>>> finite.
>>
>>Name a company whose hardware options *aren't* finite.
>>
>>Because it is grossly disingenuous to try to compare what one company
>>offers to the grand sum of the rest of the companies of that industry.
>
>
> Micro Center and Newegg each offer essentially limitless possibilities
> with hardware.
>
Yes they do.
Assuming the buyer knows what she is doing.
Most don't.

--
pothead

All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:

<https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html>

On 2024-12-07 19:45, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> What makes "running macOS"... ...quirky?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a computer that makes sense, but is unlimited in options. You
>>>>> made a choice of an OEM's computer, just an exceptional one, Apple's.
>>>>> You wish to justify it with rationales that don't really hit pay dirt.
>>>>
>>>> You still haven't answered.
>>>
>>> I want to like macOS, being a Unix system. But everything Apple-
>>> centric is just glued onto that. It's not fundamentally different
>>> from Windows, or a lot of Linux distros, but why should I be so
>>> obsessed with having Apple's quirky take on personal computing? Why
>>> can't I use my human intelligence to build a PC, unbound by Apple?
>>
>> All of this is EVASION.
>>
>> You claimed it is "quirky"...
>>
>> ...so actually give an example.
>
>
> I just don't understand the thought that it'd be crazy to say that,
> you accept Apple copying BSD as if it's an achievement. There was a
> person at M$ who coded something from scratch. Linus Torvalds, and
> countless Microsoft developers, have more credentials than anyone at
> Apple.
>

You're deflecting even more.

You stated:

"But it's [Apple's gear is] the same as it ever was, quirky."

And yet you haven't been able to state a single example of this
so-called "quirkiness".

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> You claimed it is "quirky"...
>>>
>>> ...so actually give an example.
>>
>> I just don't understand the thought that it'd be crazy to say that,
>> you accept Apple copying BSD as if it's an achievement. There was a
>> person at M$ who coded something from scratch. Linus Torvalds, and
>> countless Microsoft developers, have more credentials than anyone at
>> Apple.
>
>You're deflecting even more.
>
>You stated:
>
>"But it's [Apple's gear is] the same as it ever was, quirky."
>
>And yet you haven't been able to state a single example of this
>so-called "quirkiness".

There's not enough navigable interface on an iPhone or Mac.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>[Apple's gear is] the same as it ever was, quirky."
>
>And yet you haven't been able to state a single example of this
>so-called "quirkiness".

From the moment you purchase Apple's products, you join a cult.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.