RonB blames everyone the arson: Putin_Jong_Un.

Crump: Your talent at writing *fiction* is impressive, Ron.

Practice makes perfect.

Uncle_Matuch:
> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was traditionally
> Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to be a fact.

Poland is becoming NAZI Germany.
Ukraine is devolving into Soviet Poland.
Russia is morphing into North Korea.

RonB blames everyone the arson: Putin_Jong_Un.

Russia doesn't ban YouTube,
and there are plenty of English speaking YouTubers in Ukraine,
and I believe them, not RonB nor Putin_Jong_Un.

rBowman: Diversity is such a wonderful thing.

D.E.I. == Didn't Earn It.

Early 1930s, millions of Ukrainians died in Stalin's "Holodomor" (famine).

Starvation was weaponized/amplified against Ukrainians
to punish them for their rejection of "the new serfdom"
and to break their nationalism.

Early 1930s, millions of Ukrainians died in Stalin's "Holodomor" (famine).

Starvation was weaponized/amplified against Ukrainians
to punish them for their rejection of "the new serfdom"
and to break their nationalism.

Re: sending citizens to war

How do you feel about torturing puppies and filming it for all to see ?
Hitler thought of Ukrainians as subhuman, pardon me if I don't agree.

Early 1930s, millions of Ukrainians died in Stalin's "Holodomor" (famine).

Starvation was weaponized/amplified against Ukrainians
to punish them for their rejection of "the new serfdom"
and to break their nationalism.

On 2024-05-30 4:43 p.m., Relf wrote:
> Uncle_Matuch:
>> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was traditionally
>> Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to be a fact.
>
> Poland is becoming NAZI Germany.
> Ukraine is devolving into Soviet Poland.
> Russia is morphing into North Korea.

How the heck is Poland turning into Nazi Germany?

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On Thu, 30 May 2024 08:17:55 -0400, Joel wrote:

> You project from your right-wing media crud a lot, Ron. I think for
> myself, and I consume reputable media, even if I don't automatically
> agree with everything I read. I am not going to be judged by a dummy
> like you.

You say you're against war. Do you support escalations like described
here?

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/05/30/biden-gives-ukraine-permission-to-
strike-inside-russia-with-us-weapons/

How about one of Boeing's products that works?

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/05/29/israel-used-us-made-bombs-in-rafah-
tent-camp-massacre/

Just listen to the cash registers go 'ka-ching' as the MSM entertains you
with reports on the latest kangaroo kourt or the favorite ice cream flavor
of a senile old man.

Re: biden-gives-ukraine-permission-to-strike-inside-russia-with-us-weapons/
israel-used-us-made-bombs-in-rafah-tent-camp-massacre/

You blame everyone but the arsonists: first Stalin, now Putin_Jong_Un & Hamas.

On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:43:21 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Uncle_Matuch:
>> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was
>> traditionally Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to
>> be a fact.
>
> Poland is becoming NAZI Germany. Ukraine is devolving into Soviet
> Poland.
> Russia is morphing into North Korea.

And none of this has fuck all to do with the US except increasing the
profits of the military-industrial complex.

On Thu, 30 May 2024 14:42:11 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Starvation was weaponized/amplified against Ukrainians to punish them
> for their rejection of "the new serfdom"
> and to break their nationalism.

Welcome to communism. Gotta get rid of those reactionary kulaks.

On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-30 7:13 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-29, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-29 12:17 p.m., Relf wrote:
>>>> "give me liberty or give me death" -- Ukraine
>>>
>>> It looks like Russia has chosen to give them the latter.
>>
>> I guess the Ukrainians wanted "liberty" to kill their Russian speaking
>> countrymen more than they wanted peace. Just a lot of wannabe neo-Nazi
>> thugs. It's too bad, though, that the non-Nazi Ukrainians are caught in the
>> middle of this, losing their lives for a drug-addicted "comedian" and his
>> cadre of boot-lickers.
>
> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was
> traditionally Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to
> be a fact.

And then they can give back to Germany the part given to them by the Soviets
after World War II. (Not likely to happen.)

I don't think Russia would object to Poland taking what was traditionally
theirs. This is not the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine. I'm also guessing
that Romania and Hungary (or Slovakia?) would be able to get back their
traditional territories taken from them by the Soviet government and given
to Ukraine.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-30 4:43 p.m., Relf wrote:
>> Uncle_Matuch:
>>> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was traditionally
>>> Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to be a fact.
>>
>> Poland is becoming NAZI Germany.
>> Ukraine is devolving into Soviet Poland.
>> Russia is morphing into North Korea.
>
> How the heck is Poland turning into Nazi Germany?

I don't think Relf's grasp of reality is all that strong sometimes. It's
Banderists in Ukraine who are the wannabe Nazis.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-31, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:43:21 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:
>
>> Uncle_Matuch:
>>> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was
>>> traditionally Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to
>>> be a fact.
>>
>> Poland is becoming NAZI Germany. Ukraine is devolving into Soviet
>> Poland.
>> Russia is morphing into North Korea.
>
> And none of this has fuck all to do with the US except increasing the
> profits of the military-industrial complex.

Yep. President Washington wanted the U.S. to stay out of "foreign
entanglements." So much for that. Our current string pulling Deep State
wonks want us to continue being an Empire. We're failing like the Roman
Empire failed and, unless we change direction, we'll collapse like they did.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 07:45:31 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On 2024-05-29, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-29 12:17 p.m., Relf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "give me liberty or give me death" -- Ukraine
>>>>
>>>> It looks like Russia has chosen to give them the latter.
>>>
>>>I guess the Ukrainians wanted "liberty" to kill their Russian speaking
>>>countrymen more than they wanted peace. Just a lot of wannabe neo-Nazi
>>>thugs. It's too bad, though, that the non-Nazi Ukrainians are caught in
>>>the middle of this, losing their lives for a drug-addicted "comedian"
>>>and his cadre of boot-lickers.
>>
>>
>> Your talent at writing *fiction* is impressive, Ron.
>
> Remember the US fomented overthrow of the elected government in 2014
> followed by the attacks on ethnic Russians in the Donbas war? Given the
> animosity of ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians it would have made
> sense to split the blanket. Diversity is such a wonderful thing.

"Diversity" and "inclusion" always turns out to mean conformity and
exclusion of those who won't conform — like the exclusion of the
Russian-speakers in Nova Russia (which is what eastern Ukraine was called
before the Soviets redrew the boundaries — this commented directed at the
purposely obtuse Joel, not you).

Joel's grasp of reality is non-existent. After all, he thinks a man can be
"woman" simply by tapping his glass slippers three times and thinking he's
one.

But, to his "credit" (so to speak) he's just following the Main Stream
Media's "news" (propaganda). If he wants to talk "fiction" he should look in
that direction.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-30 7:20 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-29, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-29 11:18 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-29, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-05-29 3:46 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-05-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-05-28 12:05 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-28 2:04 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-27 8:27 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:17:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That one? Wise choice. What could go wrong with an AI powered browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by the Chinese?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought Opera was still based in Norway. It looks like I'm about 8 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> behind the curve on this one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I think I would rather have the Chinese government spying on me
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than the CIA, NSA, etc. via U.S. social media sites.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about neither?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not going to happen. But what's the Chinese government going to do to me?
>>>>>>>>>> I'm more worried about what my government is going to do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, they might label you as an anti-Communist threat and hunt you down
>>>>>>>>> the moment they invade and take over the United States. It seems
>>>>>>>>> unlikely until you realize that they already have sleeper agents in the
>>>>>>>>> country who can easily take down the vulnerable grid using a few EMPs,
>>>>>>>>> and how America has already bankrupted itself militarily by supplying
>>>>>>>>> all of its weapons to Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> China is basically a materialistic country. Their prime object is to make
>>>>>>>> money and the United States is one of their biggest customers. I don't think
>>>>>>>> they want an empire, just like Russia doesn't want an empire. I'm more much
>>>>>>>> worried about the people running the United States. They're the crazed ones.
>>>>>>>> They're the ones pushing for the New World Order, where we'll all be eating
>>>>>>>> crickets, own nothing and "like it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The media has been telling me that China's economy is doing very poorly,
>>>>>>> and that if America just continues, it will eventually go bankrupt and
>>>>>>> adopt capitalism. Of course, they also thought that Russia would go
>>>>>>> bankrupt and that the current war of attrition will lead to a Ukrainian
>>>>>>> victory. I'm starting to wonder if the media is ever right about anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In their attempt to isolate Russia, the "West" is isolating themselves.
>>>>>> BRICS will soon have almost all of Africa and South America, most of Asia
>>>>>> (including China and India), most of the Middle East (including Iran and
>>>>>> Saudi Arabia) and most of Eurasia. In out attempt to isolate Russia we're
>>>>>> destroying the PetroDollar and we're cutting ourselves off from most of the
>>>>>> world's oil and gas production, most of the world's natural resources, and
>>>>>> the biggest industrial countries (China and India). Almost all trade between
>>>>>> Russia and China used to be done in dollars (and our country got its "vig"
>>>>>> from every exchange) — now almost all trade between Russia and China is done
>>>>>> in rubles or yuan. Russia and China have created bank exchange mechanisms
>>>>>> that no are longer dependent on the "West" controlled SWIFT system. Biden's
>>>>>> puppeteers aren't exactly brilliant. Their sanctions have hurt Europe and
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Europe is basically irrelevant now, and the U.S. is swiftly following them
>>>>>> into the swirling toilet of Woke suicide.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the war started, people with common sense were already saying that
>>>>> there was no way it was going to end well for Ukraine or for anyone who
>>>>> decided to get involved. The right thing to do would have been to stay
>>>>> out of it, let Ukraine realize that it couldn't win, have them make a
>>>>> deal with Russia and spare itself massive casualties. So, obviously,
>>>>> Boris Johnson needed to tell them to stick with it and the Woke
>>>>> countries of the West had to pump up the country with a ton of money,
>>>>> probably hoping that their populations would clamor to send soldiers
>>>>> too. All our leaders saw were military industrial complex dollar signs,
>>>>> and it didn't matter to them one bit that such a conflict could result
>>>>> in World War 3 and the oblivion of every living thing on Earth.
>>>>
>>>> I think they thought they could take Russia down with sanctions. The problem
>>>> is that we've got inbred morons running our country and Russia has Putin. He
>>>> anticipated their tactics and prepared well for them.
>>>
>>> Russia knew that the West would try the sanctions and prepared for them.
>>> There's a reason things cost less in their supermarkets than they do in
>>> ours. It should be embarrassing to all Europeans and Americans how much
>>> more expensive life is in our side of the world.
>>>
>>>> The right thing for us would have been to stay out of it. The right thing
>>>> for Ukraine would have been to abide by the Minsk Agreements they signed.
>>>> But even back in the 90s Soros was already writing about using eastern
>>>> Europeans (Slavs) to fight against Russia because the "NATO countries
>>>> wouldn't be able to handle their people coming back in body bags." These
>>>> pieces of crap don't give a damn about the Ukrainians. They're using them for
>>>> cannon fodder. Now even old men, kids and women. Of course the corrupt
>>>> (bought and paid for) leaders of Ukraine stay well away from the actual
>>>> fighting. Worthless, corrupt cowards.
>>>
>>> It truly is a shame to see so many White Christians being decimated for
>>> absolutely no gain. By conquering Ukraine, Russia gets a zone which has
>>> natural defenses against the West if a war is declared against them. By
>>> continuing a war they cannot win with Russia, there is absolutely
>>> nothing that can be gained by the Ukrainians.
>>
>> Zelensky is not trying to gain anything for Ukraine. He's licking the boots
>> of his masters in Washington, DC and London. His whole goal is not to save
>> Ukraine, but to "weaken Russia." He's even used those words. He doesn't give
>> a damn about those he's sacrificing as cannon fodder. Since he's no longer
>> legally the president (even by western Ukraine "standards"), since he didn't
>> hold elections, the Russians don't have to worry about "ending" him. But I'm
>> guessing they figure he's more useful to Russia "in office," since his
>> greed, corruption and callous disregard for his own countrymen is probably
>> more demoralizing than the Russian missiles.
>>
>> What a pathetic piece of groveling shit.
>
> He's only a "pathetic piece of groveling shit" if your eyes are open and
> your brain is responsive to common sense and facts. Let's ask DFS and
> Joel Crump what they think.

Uncle_Matuch: How the heck is Poland turning into Nazi Germany ?

You said Poland wanted to take land from Ukraine,
like Nazi Germany did with Poland.

RonB: It's Banderists in Ukraine who are the wannabe Nazis.

Early 1930s, millions of Ukrainians died in Stalin's "Holodomor" (famine).

Starvation was weaponized/amplified against Ukrainians
to punish them for their rejection of "the new serfdom"
and to break their nationalism.

You blame everyone but the arsonists: first Stalin, now Putin_Jong_Un & Hamas.

On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-30 7:40 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-29 10:12 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 21:14:52 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andrzej can talk about my sexuality/etc. all he wants, he just sounds
>>>>> like an imbecile and it doesn't affect me, as a secure person, but his
>>>>> and Ron's bullshit about Russia is bona fide *traitor* shit. If they
>>>>> love Putin so much, GTFO out of North America then, move to Moscow, go
>>>>> to their cheap grocery stores, blow up a Ukrainian hospital, just do it
>>>>> away from us, please, asswipes.
>>>>
>>>> Out of idle curiosity why do you give a shit about the Ukraine? No CIA
>>>> inspired rants about freedom and democracy, just why do you personally
>>>> care?
>>>
>>> It's treason to disagree with whatever assessment our leaders and media
>>> have made for us!
>>
>> Yeah, they were calling Tulsi Gabbard a "traitor." Because, having seen war,
>> she's not keen on endless, idiotic wars — like the morons in our government
>> (and their braindead zombie myrmidons, take your bow Joel) who want to send
>> our kids to die in an effort to keep the world safe for Wall Street
>> corporate plundering.
>
> There was a time when sending your citizens out to war was considered to
> be a last resort, something to be avoided at all costs. Over the past
> eighty years, it seems to be the main objective of American governments
> to do so.

Yep. I think the war mongers should be forced to go to the front lines any
time they push us into war. Bet we would have a lot fewer wars if that was
the case. Cowards don't mind putting other people's kids in danger, but
their own lives (and their kid's lives) that's a whole different matter.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

rBowman: And none of this has fuck all to do with the US except
increasing the profits of the military-industrial complex.

RonB: Yep. President Washington wanted the U.S. to
stay out of "foreign entanglements".

How do you feel about torturing puppies and filming it for all to see ?
Hitler thought of Ukrainians as subhuman, I disagree.

On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-30 7:24 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 12:19:31 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uncle_Matuch wrote:
>>>>> By continuing a war they cannot win with Russia,
>>>>> there is absolutely nothing that can be gained by the Ukrainians.
>>>>
>>>> Freedom isn't "Nothing".
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-J7mLyD3yc
>>>
>>> Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. When that comedian
>>> gets through that's what they'll have.
>>
>> They're already pretty close. Every day there are videos of Ukrainian thugs
>> grabbing people off the street and forcing them in vans to go to the front
>> as cannon fodder. It's sad. All for the greed of London and Washington, DC
>> (and for brain-dead, boot-lickers, like Macron and Trudeau).
>
> We've seen the videos, but since they weren't played on TV by the
> mainstream media, we didn't really see them and this didn't happen.

Unfortunately it's happening every day. Quite a few Ukrainians have drowned
in the river that separates Romania from Ukraine — trying to avoid the press
gang thugs (who work on commission). You'll find their abandoned cars along
the highway. It's sad and it's sick, especially when those who are crippled
or have a mental illness are being "okay'd" for service by crooked doctors.
So long as they keep their numbers up the TCC thugs make more money.

Oh, wait a minute, it's not on MSNBC or CNN... it couldn't have happened!

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Fri, 31 May 2024 03:19:38 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I don't think Russia would object to Poland taking what was
> traditionally theirs. This is not the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine.
> I'm also guessing that Romania and Hungary (or Slovakia?) would be able
> to get back their traditional territories taken from them by the Soviet
> government and given to Ukraine.

It can be like the early days of WWII. Germany grabbed Sudetenland, the
ethnic German part of Czechoslovakia. Poland annexed the Trans-Olza,
Hungary grabbed Ruthenia, and the Slovaks formed their own republic allied
with Germany.

Then came the ethnic cleansing after the war led by the sot Churchill,
Franklin the Red, and their buddy Joe .

Supposedly they were going to sort things out and form homogenous
countries but they fucked that up just as badly as Wilson's self-
determination dream after WWI.

On 2024-05-30 11:19 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-30 7:13 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-29, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-29 12:17 p.m., Relf wrote:
>>>>> "give me liberty or give me death" -- Ukraine
>>>>
>>>> It looks like Russia has chosen to give them the latter.
>>>
>>> I guess the Ukrainians wanted "liberty" to kill their Russian speaking
>>> countrymen more than they wanted peace. Just a lot of wannabe neo-Nazi
>>> thugs. It's too bad, though, that the non-Nazi Ukrainians are caught in the
>>> middle of this, losing their lives for a drug-addicted "comedian" and his
>>> cadre of boot-lickers.
>>
>> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was
>> traditionally Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to
>> be a fact.
>
> And then they can give back to Germany the part given to them by the Soviets
> after World War II. (Not likely to happen.)
>
> I don't think Russia would object to Poland taking what was traditionally
> theirs. This is not the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine. I'm also guessing
> that Romania and Hungary (or Slovakia?) would be able to get back their
> traditional territories taken from them by the Soviet government and given
> to Ukraine.

If I were in a position of any kind of authority in Poland, I would
actually negotiate with Russia in an effort to gain that territory,
inexpensive oil and free trade in exchange for turning a blind eye to
what they're doing in Ukraine or even helping them out. I wouldn't mind
severing ties with the Americans because the US has no bargaining chip
of any worth to my country. American values are contrary to Polish ones,
they clearly have no respect for democracy, their education system is
ineffective and prefers to propagandize rather than educate, and they
built military bases on my territory. At the very least, Russians share
a culture and genes with my people. I can work with that.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-30 11:21 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-30 4:43 p.m., Relf wrote:
>>> Uncle_Matuch:
>>>> I've heard that Poland now wants a chunk of Ukraine, as it was traditionally
>>>> Polish territory. It actually pains me to imagine this to be a fact.
>>>
>>> Poland is becoming NAZI Germany.
>>> Ukraine is devolving into Soviet Poland.
>>> Russia is morphing into North Korea.
>>
>> How the heck is Poland turning into Nazi Germany?
>
> I don't think Relf's grasp of reality is all that strong sometimes. It's
> Banderists in Ukraine who are the wannabe Nazis.

I like Relf, but I agree.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-30 11:38 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-30 7:40 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-29 10:12 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 21:14:52 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrzej can talk about my sexuality/etc. all he wants, he just sounds
>>>>>> like an imbecile and it doesn't affect me, as a secure person, but his
>>>>>> and Ron's bullshit about Russia is bona fide *traitor* shit. If they
>>>>>> love Putin so much, GTFO out of North America then, move to Moscow, go
>>>>>> to their cheap grocery stores, blow up a Ukrainian hospital, just do it
>>>>>> away from us, please, asswipes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of idle curiosity why do you give a shit about the Ukraine? No CIA
>>>>> inspired rants about freedom and democracy, just why do you personally
>>>>> care?
>>>>
>>>> It's treason to disagree with whatever assessment our leaders and media
>>>> have made for us!
>>>
>>> Yeah, they were calling Tulsi Gabbard a "traitor." Because, having seen war,
>>> she's not keen on endless, idiotic wars — like the morons in our government
>>> (and their braindead zombie myrmidons, take your bow Joel) who want to send
>>> our kids to die in an effort to keep the world safe for Wall Street
>>> corporate plundering.
>>
>> There was a time when sending your citizens out to war was considered to
>> be a last resort, something to be avoided at all costs. Over the past
>> eighty years, it seems to be the main objective of American governments
>> to do so.
>
> Yep. I think the war mongers should be forced to go to the front lines any
> time they push us into war. Bet we would have a lot fewer wars if that was
> the case. Cowards don't mind putting other people's kids in danger, but
> their own lives (and their kid's lives) that's a whole different matter.

Agreed wholeheartedly. Even the kings and queens of old would send their
own children to war because they believed in the cause. Somehow, the
cause is so serious that American congresspeople aren't willing to
sacrifice themselves or their children.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.