Why are ignorant low-IQ uneducated zealots always the last to know
everything the whole world already knows - and then they dispute it?
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15837&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15837>

The zealots are, at this very moment in a few threads, brazenly denying
what the entire world outside of Apple religious zealots has long known.
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15844&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15844>

Since Apple has always put cheap crappy batteries in devices, no iPhone
older than the iPhone 15 comes close to the EU's durability requirement.

<https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/ecodesign-and-energy-label/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en>
"Ecodesign requirements will apply to mobile phones and tablets
put on the EU market from 20 June 2025 onwards, including:
...
sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
...

Apple's iPhone batteries are such cheap crappy garbage that even the iPhone
16 is reputed to only barely squeak past the EU's lifetime durability test.
(See cites above for details.)

Hell. No wonder your phone battery is dead; it's an Apple iPhone after all.

On 2024-07-15 16:29, Andrew wrote:
> Why are ignorant low-IQ uneducated zealots always the last to know
> everything the whole world already knows - and then they dispute it?
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15837&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15837>

No link to any EU battery tests there...

>
> The zealots are, at this very moment in a few threads, brazenly denying
> what the entire world outside of Apple religious zealots has long known.
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15844&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15844>

There is no such thing as an "EU longevity test" for batteries.

>
> Since Apple has always put cheap crappy batteries in devices, no iPhone
> older than the iPhone 15 comes close to the EU's durability requirement.
>
> <https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/ecodesign-and-energy-label/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en>
> "Ecodesign requirements will apply to mobile phones and tablets
> put on the EU market from 20 June 2025 onwards, including:
> ...
> sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
> at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
> while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
> ...

So now you're admitting that there is no test currently...

>
> Apple's iPhone batteries are such cheap crappy garbage that even the iPhone
> 16 is reputed to only barely squeak past the EU's lifetime durability test.
> (See cites above for details.)

There is nothing in any of the cites above that describes how Apple
batteries have done according to the standards listed in the third cite.

>
> Hell. No wonder your phone battery is dead; it's an Apple iPhone after all.

My phone is an iPhone 8 I've had for more than 6 years.

My battery still has 83% capacity.

Am 16.07.24 um 01:29 schrieb Andrew:
> Why are ignorant low-IQ uneducated zealots always the last to know
> everything the whole world already knows - and then they dispute it?
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15837&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15837>

Arlen, you are trolling again.

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

Andrew wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:29:33 -0000 (UTC) :

> Why are ignorant low-IQ uneducated zealots always the last to know
> everything the whole world already knows - and then they dispute it?
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15837&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15837>
>
> The zealots are, at this very moment in a few threads, brazenly denying
> what the entire world outside of Apple religious zealots has long known.
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15844&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15844>
>
> Since Apple has always put cheap crappy batteries in devices, no iPhone
> older than the iPhone 15 comes close to the EU's durability requirement.
>
> <https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/ecodesign-and-energy-label/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en>
> "Ecodesign requirements will apply to mobile phones and tablets
> put on the EU market from 20 June 2025 onwards, including:
> ...
> sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
> at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
> while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
> ...
>
> Apple's iPhone batteries are such cheap crappy garbage that even the iPhone
> 16 is reputed to only barely squeak past the EU's lifetime durability test.
> (See cites above for details.)
>
> Hell. No wonder your phone battery is dead; it's an Apple iPhone after all.

Chris wrote on Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:58:01 -0000 (UTC) :

> Thanks for sharing the link for the first time despite ranting about this
> for the best part of three days.
>
> Now point to where the regulation confirms the subject of this thread i.e.
> "every iphone <15 fails the EU [battery] longevity test". Note the key
> word "fails". Apple (or any other manufacturer) choosing to omit legacy
> models from new regulations is not equivalent to failing to meet the
> regulations.

It's not so bad that you zealots are ignorant of everything about Apple.
What sets you zealots apart is you brazenly deny what everyone else knows.

*Why iPhone 15 Batteries Are Now Rated for 1,000 Charge Cycles*
<https://www.inverse.com/tech/why-iphone-15-battery-charge-cycles-increased-from-500-to-1000>

Everyone knows about the EU mandate - they don't keep these things secret.
<https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=16035&group=uk.telecom.mobile#16035>

Everything public about Apple is only secret to you ignorant Apple zealots.
Yet you ignorant zealots still brazenly deny what everyone else long knew.
<https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R1670>

What you zealots need to do is stop brazenly denying what only you don't
know, as denying all facts you are ignorant of is a Mount Stupid DK trait.
<https://repair.eu/news/new-eu-rules-smartphones-and-tablets-will-follow-new-ecodesign-requirements-by-june-2025/>

Another DK Mount Stupid trait all you Apple zealots have is denying
everything you're ignorant of that even Apple doesn't try to deny.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/101575>

That wouldn't be so bad if you zealots weren't ignorant of everything
since Apple has been very open and honest that only the iPhones 15 & up
meet EU minimum battery life standards set to go into effect in 1 year.
<https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_3315>

It's not really important that you strange Apple zealots are ignorant.
What's important is your strange DK Mount Stupid propensity to deny it.

On 2024-07-16 01:04, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> Arlen, you are trolling again.

And you're giving it oxygen. Again.

--
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2024-07-16 01:04, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> Arlen, you are trolling again.
>
> And you're giving it oxygen.  Again.

Alan Browne has also given it oxygen within the last six hours, by
replying to these of its posting nyms:
Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com>
Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk>

On 2024-07-16 13:14, Peter Piper wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-07-16 01:04, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>
>>> Arlen, you are trolling again.
>>
>> And you're giving it oxygen.  Again.
>
> Alan Browne has also given it oxygen within the last six hours, by
> replying to these of its posting nyms:
> Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com>
> Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk>

I see that now. I give the benefit of the doubt - but it doesn't last
very long after true colours emerge.

--
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

On 2024-07-16 06:08, Andrew wrote:
> Andrew wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:29:33 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> Why are ignorant low-IQ uneducated zealots always the last to know
>> everything the whole world already knows - and then they dispute it?
>> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15837&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15837>
>>
>> The zealots are, at this very moment in a few threads, brazenly denying
>> what the entire world outside of Apple religious zealots has long known.
>> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15844&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15844>
>>
>> Since Apple has always put cheap crappy batteries in devices, no iPhone
>> older than the iPhone 15 comes close to the EU's durability requirement.
>>
>> <https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/ecodesign-and-energy-label/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en>
>> "Ecodesign requirements will apply to mobile phones and tablets
>> put on the EU market from 20 June 2025 onwards, including:
>> ...
>> sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
>> at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
>> while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
>> ...
>>
>> Apple's iPhone batteries are such cheap crappy garbage that even the iPhone
>> 16 is reputed to only barely squeak past the EU's lifetime durability test.
>> (See cites above for details.)
>>
>> Hell. No wonder your phone battery is dead; it's an Apple iPhone after all.
>
> Chris wrote on Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:58:01 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> Thanks for sharing the link for the first time despite ranting about this
>> for the best part of three days.
>>
>> Now point to where the regulation confirms the subject of this thread i.e.
>> "every iphone <15 fails the EU [battery] longevity test". Note the key
>> word "fails". Apple (or any other manufacturer) choosing to omit legacy
>> models from new regulations is not equivalent to failing to meet the
>> regulations.
>
> It's not so bad that you zealots are ignorant of everything about Apple.
> What sets you zealots apart is you brazenly deny what everyone else knows.
>
> *Why iPhone 15 Batteries Are Now Rated for 1,000 Charge Cycles*
> <https://www.inverse.com/tech/why-iphone-15-battery-charge-cycles-increased-from-500-to-1000>
>
> Everyone knows about the EU mandate - they don't keep these things secret.
> <https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=16035&group=uk.telecom.mobile#16035>
>
> Everything public about Apple is only secret to you ignorant Apple zealots.
> Yet you ignorant zealots still brazenly deny what everyone else long knew.
> <https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R1670>
>
> What you zealots need to do is stop brazenly denying what only you don't
> know, as denying all facts you are ignorant of is a Mount Stupid DK trait.
> <https://repair.eu/news/new-eu-rules-smartphones-and-tablets-will-follow-new-ecodesign-requirements-by-june-2025/>
>
> Another DK Mount Stupid trait all you Apple zealots have is denying
> everything you're ignorant of that even Apple doesn't try to deny.
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/101575>
>
> That wouldn't be so bad if you zealots weren't ignorant of everything
> since Apple has been very open and honest that only the iPhones 15 & up
> meet EU minimum battery life standards set to go into effect in 1 year.
> <https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_3315>
>
> It's not really important that you strange Apple zealots are ignorant.
> What's important is your strange DK Mount Stupid propensity to deny it.

Thank you for admitting that when you said there were currently tests
that the iPhone failed...

....you were definitely lying.

On 16.07.24 19:14, Peter Piper wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-07-16 01:04, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>
>>> Arlen, you are trolling again.
>>
>> And you're giving it oxygen.  Again.
>
> Alan Browne has also given it oxygen within the last six hours, by
> replying to these of its posting nyms:
> Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com>
> Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk>

For years Browne is the head feeder of Arlen.

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

On 2024-07-16 16:03, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 16.07.24 19:14, Peter Piper wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-16 01:04, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arlen, you are trolling again.
>>>
>>> And you're giving it oxygen.  Again.
>>
>> Alan Browne has also given it oxygen within the last six hours, by
>> replying to these of its posting nyms:
>> Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com>
>> Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk>
>
> For years Browne is the head feeder of Arlen.

Your track record of being wrong just keeps extending.

--
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

On 2024-07-17, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-16 16:03, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 16.07.24 19:14, Peter Piper wrote:
>>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-16 01:04, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Arlen, you are trolling again.
>>>>
>>>> And you're giving it oxygen.  Again.
>>>
>>> Alan Browne has also given it oxygen within the last six hours, by
>>> replying to these of its posting nyms:
>>> Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com>
>>> Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk>
>>
>> For years Browne is the head feeder of Arlen.
>
> Your track record of being wrong just keeps extending.

His filters result in a *lot* of false positive matches.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

John Hill wrote on Fri, 1 Nov 2024 07:56:58 -0000 (UTC) :

>> Who cares about the truth?
>
> "The Earth is flat".
> "No, it not for the following reasons�K".
> "It's obviously flat, because�K".

Uneducated people readily & strongly believe that gravity is a force.
Right?

But wait... Einstein hypothesized that it's not a force.
And even Newton thought that the action at a distance was preposterous.

> Doesn't make any difference to its sphericity.

I live in mountainous boonies above the Silicon Valley & Monterey Bay
where, since I'm an octogenarian, I seem to fall down a lot lately.

So I studied why gravity is so immensely powerful given Einstein said it
wasn't a force at all but the earth expanding outward at 9.8m/s/s and
curving spacetime rushing inward at 11km/s - perfectly balancing out such
that the earth *becomes* a sphere (almost symmetric in sphericity).

My point is that the Apple trolls like Jolly Roger, nospam, Lewis, Alan
Baker, Alan Browne, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, Hemidactylus, et al., are Apple
trolls *because* they don't have the intelligence or education to know the
difference between what Apple marketing (cleverly) feeds them - and truth.

They just don't have the intelligence but that alone isn't what makes these
Apple trolls the deniers of facts that they are (as they probably all think
gravity is a force for example - simply because they are ignorant people).

Just as Alan Baker claims to know bimmers but he doesn't know the basics,
and just as he claims to teach racing but he knows nothing about curves,
these uneducated low-IQ Apple trolls all are to the left of the 1st DK
quartile.

In common vernacular, these Apple trolls are all to the left of Mount
Stupid because not only do they know nothing, but they think they're
geniuses (which is witnessed by them exclaiming they "found me!!!!" after I
posted scores of messages with the same photos I've been using for decades,
and all I did was add "s" to the moniker (which threw them off for weeks!).

You see, John Hill, I've established these Apple trolls all share common
traits, one of which is they're incredibly uneducated and of very low IQ.

But being stupid alone isn't what makes them an Apple troll, right?

What's different about these strange Apple trolls like nospam was, is they
defend everything Apple to the death - no matter what it is they defend.

If Apple doesn't have automatic call recording, they come up with inane
excuses for apologizing for why Apple doesn't have that feature.

Their lack of education and low IQ shows up in those absurd excuses, from
it being illegal to nobody needs it and nobody wants it, etc.

Notice these traits ALWAYS show up with the Apple trolls who are zealots:
1. They're incredibly *uneducated* because all own abnormally low IQs
2. Yet, they *believe* in everything Apple marketing feeds them to believe
3. So they *defend to the death* everything Apple - no matter the truth

There's only one more major trait of these Apple trolls that an intelligent
well educated person would instantly notice - which makes them *different*
from normal people who speak about the other common operating systems.

A. Windows users don't defend Microsoft to the death - they know the truth.
(And they *accept* that truth - without becoming a religious zealot.)
B. Android users don't defend Google to the death - they know the truth.'
(They also *accept* that truth - without becoming a religious zealot.)
C. Apple trolls defend everything Apple - to the death - no matter what.
(Why?)

After studying why these strange Apple trolls are so *different* from
normal people - and putting together how incredibly ignorant and uneducated
all of them are - I've realized they have been told their entire lives how
stupid they are. How worthless they are. How they can't fathom truth.

Yet Apple marketing *loves* these Apple trolls!

Apple marketing tells these Apple trolls everything that these Apple trolls
want to hear - about how great they are for choosing the Apple ecosystem.

Notice all the Apple trolls get their ego fed to them by Apple marketing.
Notice I don't feed their ego - so they hate me - with a passion.

But they *love* Apple Marketing because Apple tells them how great their
choice of ecosystem is. They *identify* with the clever Apple marketing.

This *identity* ego comes out in everything Alan Browne posts for example.
Just watch.

On 2024-11-01 09:53, Andrews wrote:
> Just as Alan Baker claims to know bimmers but he doesn't know the
> basics, and just as he claims to teach racing but he knows nothing
> about curves, these uneducated low-IQ Apple trolls all are to the
> left of the 1st DK quartile.

I claim to teach road racing... ...because I do, in fact, teach road racing.
I started road racing in 2013 and was invited to join the Race Drivers
Committee of the Sports Car Club of BC after the 2016 season, and I've
been teaching every year since.

<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2024-SCCBC-Driver-
Training-June-9-2024/i-Fkd9344/buy>

That's me on the left with my fellow instructor, Paul Bunbury.