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Subject: Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
From: Andrew
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Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

> Everything Apple Announced Today:
> iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>
> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:

1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom

The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.
--
Nobody spends less than Apple in R&D (by size); nor more in marketing.

Subject: RE: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
From: Wilf
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On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
> Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :
>
>> Everything Apple Announced Today:
>> iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>>
>> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>
>
> Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:
>
> 1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
> 2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
> 3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
> 4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom
>
> The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.

I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed
superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like
something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and why
should I care?

--
Wilf

Subject: Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
From: badgolferman
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Wilf wrote:

>I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
>technology and although you may or may not be right about the
>supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
>If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
>so, and why should I care?

I like my iPhone too. There are some things it does and certain apps
which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without. But I think
what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has
severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
phone manufacturers. This type of mentality is not tolerated and
immediately assailed by those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem.
There can't be a real discussion without personal insults and talking
past each other. If anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately
labeled a troll or heretic. It's much like the political discourse
these days.

Subject: Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
From: Jolly Roger
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On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
> On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
>> Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :
>>
>>> Everything Apple Announced Today:
>>> iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>>>
>>> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>
>>
>> Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:
>>
>> 1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
>> 2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
>> 3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
>> 4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
>> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom
>>
>> The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
>> now.
>
> I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
> technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed
> superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like
> something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
> why should I care?

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

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Subject: Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
From: Tom Elam
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On 9/11/2024 9:00 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
>>> Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :
>>>
>>>> Everything Apple Announced Today:
>>>> iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>
>>>
>>> Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:
>>>
>>> 1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
>>> 2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
>>> 3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
>>> 4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
>>> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom
>>>
>>> The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
>>> now.
>>
>> I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
>> technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed
>> superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like
>> something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
>> why should I care?
>
> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
> Andrew is one such troll.
>

Bingo

Subject: Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
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On 2024-09-11 22:38:22 +0000, badgolferman said:
> Wilf wrote:
>>
>> I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
>> technology and although you may or may not be right about the
>> supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
>> If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
>> so, and why should I care?
>
> I like my iPhone too. There are some things it does and certain apps
> which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without. But I think
> what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has
> severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
> phone manufacturers.

iOS also has less problems, less malware, and far less garbage apps
than Android. It also works mostly properly and sensibly, unlike the
disastorous mess of Android where every different manufacture adds
their own crap into it.

> This type of mentality is not tolerated and immediately assailed by
> those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem. There can't be a real
> discussion without personal insults and talking past each other. If
> anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately labeled a troll or
> heretic. It's much like the political discourse these days.

Subject: Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
From: David Brooks
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On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
[....]
> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
> Andrew is one such troll.

How about /this/ matter, JR?

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=172613227600

Your views welcomed.

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On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
> [....]
>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>> Andrew is one such troll.
>
> How about /this/ matter, JR?

Not interested in random links.

Sorry.

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From: andrew@spam.net (Andrew)
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Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Sep 2024 16:13:09 GMT :

>>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>>> Andrew is one such troll.
>>
>> How about /this/ matter, JR?
>
> Not interested in random links.
>
> Sorry.

If someone is going to bother to post a related link, I click on the link;
but this link to Howard Knight went to an Apple discussion forum.
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022>

What I find interesting about Apple ngs is that the truth about Apple
products is not tolerated - yet every other OS newsgroups allows facts.

Why not?

The fact is the article said Apple announced this about the new iPhones.
1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom"

That's just a fact.
Why should a simple fact such as that, provoke such hatred on an Apple ng?

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From: BDB@nomail.afraid.org (David Brooks)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today
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On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> [....]
>>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>>> Andrew is one such troll.
>>
>> How about /this/ matter, JR?
>
> Not interested in random links.
>
> Sorry.

From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100

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Here are the facts:-

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022

Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?

Thanks if you can. :-D

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David

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On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> [....]
>>>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>>>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>>>> Andrew is one such troll.
>>>
>>> How about /this/ matter, JR?
>>
>> Not interested in random links.
>>
>> Sorry.
>
> From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
> Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100
>
> Message-ID: <lkfl59F2dg9U2@mid.individual.net>
>
> Here are the facts:-
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022
>
> Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?
>
> Thanks if you can. :-D

Again, not interested.

Sorry.

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Subject	Author
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Andrew
RE: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Wilf
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	badgolferman
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Your Name
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Jolly Roger
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Tom Elam
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	David Brooks
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Jolly Roger
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Andrew
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	David Brooks
Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today	Jolly Roger