Jolly Roger wrote on 2 Sep 2024 18:33:10 GMT :

>> That's just a fact that you *must* provide Apple a phone number.
>> And you *must* have that phone with you for the rest of your life.
>> Every time you log into an Apple device.
>
> Nope, just the very first time. Afterwards there is no need to do 2FA
> since the device is remembered from then on. Also, you can easily
> change the 2FA number if/when needed. As usual, Arlen can't write about
> anything Apple-related without injecting outright lies into it.

The fact Jolly Roger resorts to brazen lies tells us what we need to know.

The fact is, for all new Apple Id's after February of 2023, you *must* for
the rest of your life, provide Apple with identifiable 2FA - and for the
rest of your life - you can never get out of this privacy ruining
requirement of Apple requiring one of your most private identifiers.
*For the rest of your life!*

You're screwed if you don't *always* (for the rest of your life!) carry
*both* your Apple device and your 2FA device (usually your cell phone),
everywhere you go, whenever you need to log back into your Apple ID.

FACT
No other operating system vendor steals your privacy like Apple does.
No other operating system vendor treats its customers like that.

Just Apple.

On 2024-09-02, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 2 Sep 2024 18:33:10 GMT :
>
>>> That's just a fact that you *must* provide Apple a phone number.
>>> And you *must* have that phone with you for the rest of your life.
>>> Every time you log into an Apple device.
>>
>> Nope, just the very first time. Afterwards there is no need to do 2FA
>> since the device is remembered from then on. Also, you can easily
>> change the 2FA number if/when needed. As usual, Arlen can't write
>> about anything Apple-related without injecting outright lies into it.
>
> The fact Jolly Roger resorts to brazen lies tells us what we need to
> know.

Nothing I said was untrue. You, on the other hand...

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Jolly Roger wrote on 3 Sep 2024 17:16:00 GMT :

>> The fact Jolly Roger resorts to brazen lies tells us what we need to
>> know.
>
> Nothing I said was untrue. You, on the other hand...

Since you always brazenly deny all facts about Apple that you hate...
Let's see what you know, Jolly Roger... (and what you do not know).

Question: Is it a fact that Apple requires 2FA for all new AppleIDs.
Answer: Yes, or no.

On 2024-09-03, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 3 Sep 2024 17:16:00 GMT :
>
>>> The fact Jolly Roger resorts to brazen lies tells us what we need to
>>> know.
>>
>> Nothing I said was untrue. You, on the other hand...
>
> Since blah blah blah

Nothing I said was untrue. That's why you are trying to move the goal
post now.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 02:43:25 GMT :

> Nothing I said was untrue.
> That's why you are trying to move the goal post now.

The point of this thread has always been to find out if it's even possible
to log into a new Apple device with a new Apple ID WITHOUT having to carry
your Android phone with you to do it (for the rest of your life!).

You may hate that goal - but that's the goal whether or not you hate it.

What matters isn't that you repeatedly lied because you *hate* not only the
fact that only Apple requires an Apple account just to turn the device into
a usable device, but that this required account *must* have permanent 2FA
(which can never be removed).

Note what's very different with Apple (which is what you seem to *hate*).
1. *Only Apple requires an account( just to make the phone functional, and,
2. *Only Apple requires that (new) account to be permanent 2FA*.

No other common consumer operating system vendor murders privacy like that.
a. You're forced to give Apple your very private Android phone number, and,
b. You need to carry Android with you, forever, just to log into the iPad.

That you lie this isn't the situation (even as it is) is the clearest
indicator that you simply *hate* what Apple is - as that's what Apple does.

What you *hate* is the fact that you can't ever again log into your Apple
ID without *also* having to carry your Android phone around with you
(as is the case with many who have Android phones & Apple tablets).

If there is another way to log into an Apple device *without* having to
also always carry around an Android phone to do it, let me know please.

On 2024-09-04, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 02:43:25 GMT :
>
>> Nothing I said was untrue.
>> That's why you are trying to move the goal post now.
>
> The point of blah blah blah

Nothing I said was untrue. That's why you are trying to move the goal
post now.

> If there is another way to log into an Apple device *without* having to
> also always carry around an Android phone to do it, let me know please.

Not true. As you have been told numerous times and ignored, you only
need it the first time you sign into a new device. After that, the
device is trusted. You're lying, because: troll.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 15:18:10 GMT :

>> If there is another way to log into an Apple device *without* having to
>> also always carry around an Android phone to do it, let me know please.
>
> Not true. As you have been told numerous times and ignored, you only
> need it the first time you sign into a new device. After that, the
> device is trusted. You're lying, because: troll.

Jolly Roger - why is it you brazenly lie when you *hate* what Apple does?
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg>

FACT:
Apple often requires logging into your Apple ID and we've proved that with
incontrovertible proof, e.g., when Apple changes the terms and conditions.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg>

Assessment of that fact:
The fact you're completely ignorant of that fact doesn't make it a troll.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg>

FACT:
There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a re-login into
your Apple ID that I'm aware of because I don't do it - and so I am well
aware that Apple will nag you five, ten, fifteen times a day to re login.
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg>

ASSESSMENT of that fact:
The fact you lie about what Apple does indicates how much you *hate* Apple.
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg>

On 2024-09-04, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 15:18:10 GMT :
>
>>> If there is another way to log into an Apple device *without* having
>>> to also always carry around an Android phone to do it, let me know
>>> please.
>>
>> Not true. As you have been told numerous times and ignored, you only
>> need it the first time you sign into a new device. After that, the
>> device is trusted. You're lying, because: troll.
>
> Jolly Roger - why is it you brazenly lie when you *hate* what Apple
> does?

Pure projection.

> FACT: Apple often requires logging into your Apple ID and we've proved
> that with incontrovertible proof, e.g., when Apple changes the terms
> and conditions.

FACT: That doesn't require 2FA authentication since the device is
already trusted.

> The fact you're completely ignorant

More projection.

> FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
> re-login into your Apple ID

FACT: None of which require 2FA since the device is already trusted.

> I am well aware that Apple will nag you five, ten, fifteen times a day
> to re login.

That's yet another lie.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:15:49 GMT :

>> FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
>> re-login into your Apple ID
>
> FACT: None of which require 2FA since the device is already trusted.

Tell us, Jolly Roger, if your 2FA is your Android phone, how are you going
to log into your Apple ID (for the rest of your entire life!) without
*always* (for the rest of your life!) having to carry your Android phone
with you forever, just to log into your account, which, we've proven, Apple
requires you to do frequently (which you don't notice - but it's there).

Tell us.

Why is it that Apple is the only common consumer operating system which
requires you to have TWO devices - just to log into one of them.

Tell us.

On 2024-09-05, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:15:49 GMT :
>
>>> FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
>>> re-login into your Apple ID
>>
>> FACT: None of which require 2FA since the device is already trusted.
>
> Tell us, Jolly Roger, if your 2FA is your Android phone, how are you
> going to log into your Apple ID (for the rest of your entire life!)
> without *always* (for the rest of your life!) having to carry your
> Android phone with you forever, just to log into your account, which,
> we've proven, Apple requires you to do frequently (which you don't
> notice - but it's there).
>
> Tell us.

Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is trusted,
which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're just showing
how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 5 Sep 2024 15:01:49 GMT :

> Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is trusted,
> which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're just showing
> how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.

Untrue Jolly Roger. Clearly you've never tried NOT logging into an Apple
device. I have. And you know I have since we've covered this for years.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
<https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login

Apple *frequently* forces you to verify, where, in fact, you have to
actually provide your government ID to verify in cases where you don't.

The fact remains that Apple murdered privacy with mandatory 2FA.

No other operating system stoops that low to demand your personal identity.
Just Apple.

On 2024-09-08, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 5 Sep 2024 15:01:49 GMT :
>
>> Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is
>> trusted, which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're
>> just showing how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.
>
> Untrue Jolly Roger.

It's true, Arlen.

> Clearly you've never tried

Projection. Your claim that Apple constantly requires 2FA verification
is a big, fat lie - as anyone who actually uses Apple devices knows.

Two-factor authentication for Apple ID
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660>
---
When you sign in with your Apple ID *for the first time* on a *new*
device or on the web, you need both your password and the six-digit
verification code that's automatically displayed on your trusted
devices.
---

As is so often the case, your little lies are easily shown to be false.

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