Given Apple is well known to spend the least on R&D than any similar tech
company as a percentage of revenue - and knowing that Apple is two
generations behind Android in AI - and something like five generations
behind Android in integrated 5G modem design... the question is whether or
not the statement in the title is a true assessment of the published facts.

*Due to lack of R&D spending, iPhones are 5 to 10 years behind Android*

Notice that anyone can prove that statement wrong if they can find an
iPhone technology that is NOT 5 to 10 years behind the Android technology.

Bear in mind, BlueTooth trackers have been suggested as the one and only
technology where the iPhone technology is said to be better than the
equivalent Android technology - which is an absurd assessment simply
because an AirTag is merely a Bluetooth tracker. Nothing more than that.
<https://www.pcmag.com/news/airtag-vs-tile-which-bluetooth-tracker-should-you-choose>

Even if we accept the desperate absurdity that a Tile bluetooth tracker is
an Android-only device (which is patently false) and hence we accept the
equally absurd desperation that the AirTag is an iPhone technology, that's
still only a *single* technology in the past 10 years Apple has over
Android.

I am well aware that Apple spends far more in marketing than in R&D (which
isn't hard to do considering Apple has never invested in R&D), so I fully
comprehend why Apple owners strongly feel Apple innovates over Android.

Marketing is powerful.
Especially over gullible herd animals.

But I'm a person who cares about the facts.
Not religious bullshit.

Can't you Apple religious zealots come up with anything more than zero
facts backing up your extremely strongly held religious beliefs?

Seriously.

Even if we grant the (absurd) premise that the AirTag is an iPhone
technology that is better than the (equally absurd) premise that the Tile
is an Android technology - we *still* would have only one technology.

To move the conversation along, I'll grant the (absurd) argument that the
AirTag is an exclusively iPhone technology and the Tile is an exclusively
Android technology...

So that's *one* iPhone technology better than that of Android.
OK.

Now what?
Name another.

Since it's you guys who feel strongly Apple can innovate and that Apple is
NOT five to ten years behind Android technology - can you name another?

Q: What *second* technology has Apple R&D been able to innovate over
similar Android technology in the past five or ten years?
A: ?

HINT: If you can't answer that, then the subject line is considered true.

On 2024-07-22 07:58, Andrew wrote:
> Given Apple is well known to spend the least on R&D than any similar tech
> company as a percentage of revenue - and knowing that Apple is two
> generations behind Android in AI - and something like five generations
> behind Android in integrated 5G modem design... the question is whether or
> not the statement in the title is a true assessment of the published facts.

Why is "percentage of revenue" the correct metric?

Does suddenly selling twice as much make you half as innovative?

On 7/22/24 10:58 AM, Andrew wrote:
> Given Apple is well known to spend the least on R&D than any similar tech
> company as a percentage of revenue - and knowing that Apple is two
> generations behind Android in AI - and something like five generations
>
<<<SNIP>>>

Yeah, I guess that's why iPhones-- sold by obly one company-- sell more
than all the other phone brands combined year after year.

--
You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own
facts ;-)

Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote on Mon, 22 Jul 2024 12:11:34 -0400 :

> Yeah, I guess that's why iPhones-- sold by obly one company-- sell more
> than all the other phone brands combined year after year.

It's always the case that the ignorant uneducated low-IQ Apple religious
fanatical zealots hold strong religious beliefs based on exactly 0 facts.

FACT 1:
Android outsells the iPhone by a wide margin world wide (over 75%).

FACT 2:
Samsung alone outsold Apple every quarter but one in the past 12 years.

Question for adults:
Q: How can the religious zealots be that wrong and yet so confident?
A: Look up what it means to be on Mount Stupid in Dunning-Kruger graphs.
<https://psychology.stackexchange.com/questions/17825/what-is-the-primary-source-of-the-mount-stupid-graphic>

HINT: Apple religious zealots are herd animals who are incredibly gullible.

On 2024-07-22 11:33, Alan wrote:

> Why is "percentage of revenue" the correct metric?
>
> Does suddenly selling twice as much make you half as innovative?

The troll can't grasp that no matter how much cash you have, you can't
spend it on R&D beyond a certain point w/o it just being spaghetti flung
at the wall.

Simpler version: when you're flush with cash, you budget for a goal, not
as a percentage of revenue.

Companies that are not flush with cash use percentage of revenue as a
sober limit or guideline - and the product development labs howl for
more money.

At Apple there is no howling for money - the dev labs have oodles
budgeted and could not spend more if they tried.

Apple thankfully realized that they are not an automobile company and
got out of that cash pit. They realized it is a very thin margin market
- more so with everyone and their niece making electric cars and Chinese
companies dumping cars on the market.

--
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

badgolferman wrote on Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:49:21 -0000 (UTC) :

> Shortly after the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max were released
> last September, some customers began to experience an issue with the
> devices overheating. Apple eventually mitigated the problem with an iOS
> 17 update, but it might go a step further with the iPhone 16 models
> that are set to be released later this year.
>
> The Information today cited a source who said that iPhone 16 models
> will be equipped with a "larger graphite sheet" inside the chassis of
> the devices, to address potential overheating. This corroborates a
> rumor from last November that claimed iPhone 16 models would feature an
> improved thermal management system.
>
> Apple is expected to release the iPhone 16 series in September, so the
> devices should be just a few months away from launching. With this
> rumored change, the post-launch overheating issue should be a thing of
> the past.
>
> https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/23/internal-change-to-iphone-16-models-expected-to-reduce-overheating/

It's obvious that one of the main reasons Apple has so many problems with
their phones is that their lack of R&D means that they also lack testing.

An example of Apple's sordid lack of R&D testing is the fact that
batterygate happened, which was a surprise to Apple (even as Apple was
desperate to cover it up, that coverup costing Apple over a billion).

Another example of Apple's lack of R&D testing is the fact that the iPhone
is always the most exploited smartphone on the market, bar none.

Forgetting about the "you're holding it wrong" lack of testing by Apple,
and forget that FaceTime was *never* tested (which Google had proved),
think about how great Apple products would be if they were actually tested.

With all the money Apple earns, you'd think they could test their products
- but all tehy really need to do is ADVERTISE that they tested them.

And people (who don't know the facts) believe it.
Even though Apple is the only company who only fully supports one release.

Think of how safe an iPhone would really be - if Apple bothered to test it.

On 2024-07-25 19:58, Andrew wrote:
> badgolferman wrote on Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:49:21 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> Shortly after the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max were released
>> last September, some customers began to experience an issue with the
>> devices overheating. Apple eventually mitigated the problem with an iOS
>> 17 update, but it might go a step further with the iPhone 16 models
>> that are set to be released later this year.
>>
>> The Information today cited a source who said that iPhone 16 models
>> will be equipped with a "larger graphite sheet" inside the chassis of
>> the devices, to address potential overheating. This corroborates a
>> rumor from last November that claimed iPhone 16 models would feature an
>> improved thermal management system.
>>
>> Apple is expected to release the iPhone 16 series in September, so the
>> devices should be just a few months away from launching. With this
>> rumored change, the post-launch overheating issue should be a thing of
>> the past.
>>
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/23/internal-change-to-iphone-16-models-expected-to-reduce-overheating/
>
> It's obvious that one of the main reasons Apple has so many problems with
> their phones is that their lack of R&D means that they also lack testing.

Except Apple doesn't lack for R&D spending.

So everything based on that premise is bullshit.