Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>
> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.

I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on newer
versions of Windows.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
>> Jolly Roger.
>
> Heh heh heh... I'm happy to ruffle your cowardly feathers, little troll
> boy.
>

Purposeful trolling.

badgolferman wrote on Sun, 21 Jul 2024 09:54:39 -0000 (UTC) :

>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.
>
> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on newer
> versions of Windows.

I can discuss nuance of detail differently with you than with the zealots.

First, as rational intelligent well-informed adults, we should never
disagree with a fact - which is my main point with these religious zealots.

Jolly Roger is claiming that the IPA is manufactured out of thin air,
which is, even he knows, a brazen lie, as only Apple operating systems do
NOT store, by default, the original installer (at the time of
installation).

If you don't already have a backup of that IPA (which you had to do on your
own), then if that IPA is no longer on the App Store, you can't re-create
it out of thin air (even with the payware iMazing app he speaks of).

*Do we first agree on that fundamental fact, badgolferman?*

Once we agree on that fact, then we have to see how other operating systems
do it as my claim is only Apple operating systems are brain dead this way.

Let's just compare with Windows & Android as those are what I use daily.

1. iOS: Every IPA is deleted from the device after installing, by default.
2. Android: Every APK is saved, by default, on the device,
after installing.
3. Windows: Every exe/msi is saved, by default, on the device, after
installing.

You have to understand why agreeing on facts is important, as with the
religious zealots, they don't even think about facts. Facts don't matter.

But to adults, facts are what we form our assessments upon.
An adult's belief system is fundamentally based on facts.

Now, assuming you agree with those fundamental facts, it's up to the
developer if they feel like supporting the existing operating system.

On Windows, you'd be hard pressed to find software that no longer works,
but it does exist. I'm using Adobe Acrobat 6 and Microsoft Office 7, and
both of those work just fine even as they must be something like 20 years
old, so it's clear that most Windows software works decades later.

Not all.
But most.

Same with Android.

Even better, while iOS inserts a unique AppleID into every app you install,
that's not done on Windows and Android so an app that you installed on one
Windows or Android will work on another in most cases.

Since we're adults, there are nuances in detail, as, for example, it could
be a 64-bit installer which might not work on a 32-bit machine, or it could
be a firefox executable where it checks for the Windows version as Mozilla
doesn't feel like supporting Windows XP (which is something like 30 years
old so I don't blame them).

But fundamentally, the reason I say iOS is primitive and brain dead and
that it's designed as a dumb terminal is partly due to the Stone-Age manner
that Apple handles IPAs, which is unlike how every other OS does things.

Do we agree on that?
If you need clarification, let me know.

But please don't just deny everything you don't like about Apple which is
what Jolly Roger and all the Apple religious zealots do all day, every day.

On 2024-07-21, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 03:59:13 GMT :
>
>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
>>>> heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
>>>> more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>
>>> Maybe you didn�t read the original message. I didn�t migrate the
>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>
>> Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone is
>> wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
>> everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word) is
>> that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder and
>> every app to a new iPhone from an old iPhone.
>
> And yet, Jolly Roger just lied that magical IPAs appear out of thin
> air.

Nah, you are just trying to deflect and move the goal post.

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On 2024-07-21, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>
>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
>> default.
>
> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
> newer versions of Windows.

I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of macOS. Big fucking deal. And again, people transfer
their data (including every app and the home screen layout) from their
old iPhones to their new iPhones every single day - which little Arlen
says is supposedly impossible, and you are here siding with him like a
good little sheep.

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On 2024-07-21, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 04:03:07 GMT :
>
>>> My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is
>>> mired in the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as
>>> primitive as iOS is.
>>
>> LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.
>
> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
> default.

Laughably false, and you're desperately trying to deflect from the point
which is that people transfer their data (including all of their apps
and their home screen layouts) from old iPhones to their new iPhones
every day - something you claim isn't possible.

> Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie

Projection from an Android zealot.

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On 2024-07-21, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
>>> Jolly Roger.
>>
>> Heh heh heh... I'm happy to ruffle your cowardly feathers, little
>> troll boy.
>
> Purposeful trolling.

In reaction to your own and your idiot leader Arlen, yes. Can't take
your own medicine, little bot?

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-21, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
>>>> Jolly Roger.
>>>
>>> Heh heh heh... I'm happy to ruffle your cowardly feathers, little
>>> troll boy.
>>
>> Purposeful trolling.
>
> In reaction to your own and your idiot leader Arlen, yes. Can't take
> your own medicine, little bot?
>

Finally you admit to being a troll. It’s so ironic constantly hearing you
accuse others when you’re the poster boy for trolling.

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 20:13:02 GMT :

>>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
>>> default.
>>
>> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
>> newer versions of Windows.
>
> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
> newer versions of macOS. Big fucking deal. And again, people transfer
> their data (including every app and the home screen layout) from their
> old iPhones to their new iPhones every single day - which little Arlen
> says is supposedly impossible, and you are here siding with him like a
> good little sheep.

Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air, even when that IPA is
no longer on the App Store, and let's look at transferring data, shall we.

Let's not talk about the easy data, such as your contacts and your images,
which even the brain dead primitive iOS has no problem copying from A to B.

Also, since most Apple users are iSheep, let's not worry about other data
these ignorant Apple users store on the cloud such as calendar data.

Let's talk about all the data stored in all your apps, such as your map
apps (such as OSMAnd) and your system-wide firewall settings, shall we?

Oh wait, the primitive dumb-terminal brain-dead iOS can do firewalls; so
let's just look at the third-party (non-Google, non-Apple) map apps.

Take OSMAnd and/or Avenza and/or OuterSpatial and/or MagicEarth, etc.
How do you bring over their data EXACTLY so that they're used the same?

On Android, you simply bring the portable sd storage card over.
Voila! All your data is EXACTLY where it was before on the old phone.

And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do it.

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 20:15:30 GMT :

>>>> My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is
>>>> mired in the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as
>>>> primitive as iOS is.
>>>
>>> LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.
>>
>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
>> default.
>
> Laughably false, and you're desperately trying to deflect from the point
> which is that people transfer their data (including all of their apps
> and their home screen layouts) from old iPhones to their new iPhones
> every day - something you claim isn't possible.

Hi Jolly Roger,

I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups, one of which is to tell the
truth about Apple products and the other is to show the world what you
uneducated ignorant low-IQ Apple fundamentalist religious zealots are.

You are the one who is desperate to make excuses for Apple to "explain
away" iOS' primitive dumb-terminal brain-dead design which does not save
the IPA at installation time by default - and hence - you're the one who
brazenly and repeatedly callously duplicitously lied claiming that iMazing
had the amazing ability to manufacture the desired IPA out of thin air when
the offering was no longer on the App Store - not me.

The fact you strange nutcases believe IPAs can be made up out of thin air
when they don't exist shows you religious zealots for what you really are.
>> Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
>
> Projection from an Android zealot.

The fact remains the facts whether or not you like those facts, JR.

1. Android always saves the installation APK, by default.
2. iOS does not.

You *hate* the Stone-Age primitive design of the iPhone, Jolly Roger.
But you hating it doesn't change that Apple designed iOS that way.

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 17:28:52 GMT :

>>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
>>>>> heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
>>>>> more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you didn�t read the original message. I didn�t migrate the
>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>
>>> Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone is
>>> wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
>>> everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word) is
>>> that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder and
>>> every app to a new iPhone from an old iPhone.
>>
>> And yet, Jolly Roger just lied that magical IPAs appear out of thin
>> air.
>
> Nah, you are just trying to deflect and move the goal post.

Hi Jolly Roger,

I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups, one of which is to tell the
truth about Apple products and the other is to show the world what you
uneducated ignorant low-IQ Apple fundamentalist religious zealots are.

You are the one who is desperate to make excuses for Apple to "explain
away" iOS' primitive dumb-terminal brain-dead design which does not save
the IPA at installation time by default - and hence - you're the one who
brazenly and repeatedly callously duplicitously lied claiming that iMazing
had the amazing ability to manufacture the desired IPA out of thin air when
the offering was no longer on the App Store - not me.

The fact you strange nutcases believe IPAs can be made up out of thin air
when they don't exist shows you religious zealots for what you really are.
>> Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
>
> Projection from an Android zealot.

The fact remains the facts whether or not you like those facts, JR.

1. Android always saves the installation APK, by default.
2. iOS does not.

You *hate* the Stone-Age primitive design of the iPhone, Jolly Roger.
But you hating it doesn't change that Apple designed iOS that way.

On 2024-07-21, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 17:28:52 GMT :
>
>>>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>> never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims
>>>>>> he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you didn�t read the original message. I didn�t migrate the
>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone
>>>> is wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
>>>> everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word)
>>>> is that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder
>>>> and every app to a new iPhone from an old iPhone.
>>>
>>> And yet, Jolly Roger just lied that magical IPAs appear out of thin
>>> air.
>>
>> Nah, you are just trying to deflect and move the goal post.
>
> Hi Jolly Roger,
>
> I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups

To troll, and to troll.

Meanwhile nothing you can say will change the FACT (you love misusing
that word) that iPhone users all over the world regularly transfer
everything (installed apps, home screen layout, everything) from one
iPhone to another - something you claimed supposedly can't be done.

>>> Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
>>
>> Projection from an Android zealot.
>
> The fact

You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped you in the face, little
man-child.

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On 2024-07-21, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-21, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
>>>>> Jolly Roger.
>>>>
>>>> Heh heh heh... I'm happy to ruffle your cowardly feathers, little
>>>> troll boy.
>>>
>>> Purposeful trolling.
>>
>> In reaction to your own and your idiot leader Arlen, yes. Can't take
>> your own medicine, little bot?
>
> Finally you admit

I have no problem standing behind my position and stating what I think.
You on the other hand hide behind plausible deniability, always siding
with Arlen but never admitting it outright. You're a true coward.

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On 2024-07-21, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 20:13:02 GMT :
>
>>>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
>>>> default.
>>>
>>> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
>>> newer versions of Windows.
>>
>> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
>> newer versions of macOS. Big fucking deal. And again, people transfer
>> their data (including every app and the home screen layout) from
>> their old iPhones to their new iPhones every single day - which
>> little Arlen says is supposedly impossible, and you are here siding
>> with him like a good little sheep.
>
> Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
> amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air

Anyone reading this thread knows well I never said any such thing. You
and your little lap dog badgolferman may think telling brazen lies like
this will fool others, but you're only shredding your own credibility in
the eyes of others by doing so. You are both liars and neither of you
has any credibility. A habitual liar and his cowardly little lap dog is
what you are.

> And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do
> it.

I run my own servers, little Arlen. I have no need to use someone else's
server for this. My IPAs could just as well be on my computer's hard
drive - I choose to store them on a file server instead because they are
archives and take up valuable space (2.5 TB and growing).

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On 2024-07-21 07:03, Andrew wrote:
> badgolferman wrote on Sun, 21 Jul 2024 09:54:39 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.
>>
>> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on newer
>> versions of Windows.
>
> I can discuss nuance of detail differently with you than with the zealots.
>
> First, as rational intelligent well-informed adults, we should never
> disagree with a fact - which is my main point with these religious zealots.

Are you catching the condescension, BGM?

On 2024-07-21 14:31, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 20:13:02 GMT :
>
>>>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
>>>> default.
>>>
>>> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
>>> newer versions of Windows.
>>
>> I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
>> newer versions of macOS. Big fucking deal. And again, people transfer
>> their data (including every app and the home screen layout) from their
>> old iPhones to their new iPhones every single day - which little Arlen
>> says is supposedly impossible, and you are here siding with him like a
>> good little sheep.
>
> Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
> amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air, even when that IPA is
> no longer on the App Store, and let's look at transferring data, shall we.

He never said that.

So let us by all means belabour the fact that Arlen just makes up straw men.

>
> Let's not talk about the easy data, such as your contacts and your images,
> which even the brain dead primitive iOS has no problem copying from A to B.
>
> Also, since most Apple users are iSheep, let's not worry about other data
> these ignorant Apple users store on the cloud such as calendar data.

Some people store calendar data in the cloud.

Some people store it only on their iPhone and it gets transferred to a
new iPhone without ever touching the cloud.

>
> Let's talk about all the data stored in all your apps, such as your map
> apps (such as OSMAnd) and your system-wide firewall settings, shall we?

Sure, why not?

Oh wait, you didn't say anything about it!

>
> Oh wait, the primitive dumb-terminal brain-dead iOS can do firewalls; so
> let's just look at the third-party (non-Google, non-Apple) map apps.

Oh, wait:

<https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ios+firewall+apps&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8>

>
> Take OSMAnd and/or Avenza and/or OuterSpatial and/or MagicEarth, etc.
> How do you bring over their data EXACTLY so that they're used the same?

Just start a migration; cloud-based or iPhone-to-iPhone direct.

>
> On Android, you simply bring the portable sd storage card over.
> Voila! All your data is EXACTLY where it was before on the old phone.

On iOS, you simply bring the new iPhone close to the old one...

>
> And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do it.

As you don't on an iPhone if you don't want to.

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 22:17:22 GMT :

> You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped you in the face, little
> man-child.

I feel sorry for you zealot because you have no adult way to handle facts.

The fact you strange nutcases believe IPAs can be made up out of thin air
when they don't exist shows you religious zealots for what you really are.

The facts are that
a. Android saves the APK installer on the device, by default
b. iOS does not

In addition, the AppleID is embedded into each IPA you install.
No other operating system tags every IPA directly to your ID.

The result is that app migration on Android works even when the specific
app and version is no longer available on the Google Play Store.

Meanwhile, with the primitive design of iOS, if the app version is no
longer on the Apple App Store, you can't migrate that app.

And no, amazing as the iMazing payware is, you brazenly lied when you
claimed that iMazing could manufacture that IPA out of thin air, JR.

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 22:24:01 GMT :

>> Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
>> amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air
>
> Anyone reading this thread knows well I never said any such thing. You
> and your little lap dog badgolferman may think telling brazen lies like
> this will fool others, but you're only shredding your own credibility in
> the eyes of others by doing so. You are both liars and neither of you
> has any credibility. A habitual liar and his cowardly little lap dog is
> what you are.

Heh heh heh ... so you agree that with iOS if the app that you want to
migrate (or the version of that app) is no longer in the app store, then
the migration instantly fails. In other words, it just does not work.

Unlike with iOS, on every other operating system NOT Apple, it just works.

>> And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do
>> it.
>
> I run my own servers, little Arlen. I have no need to use someone else's
> server for this. My IPAs could just as well be on my computer's hard
> drive - I choose to store them on a file server instead because they are
> archives and take up valuable space (2.5 TB and growing).

The fact remains only iOS is so brain dead primitive stuck in the stone age
of computers that it's a dumb terminal that can't even migrate an IPA, JR.

Only with the primitive dumb-terminal iOS design, if that app (or version)
is no longer on the App Store, the migration fails - and you know this, JR.

On 2024-07-21 18:48, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 22:24:01 GMT :
>
>>> Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
>>> amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air
>>
>> Anyone reading this thread knows well I never said any such thing. You
>> and your little lap dog badgolferman may think telling brazen lies like
>> this will fool others, but you're only shredding your own credibility in
>> the eyes of others by doing so. You are both liars and neither of you
>> has any credibility. A habitual liar and his cowardly little lap dog is
>> what you are.
>
> Heh heh heh ... so you agree that with iOS if the app that you want to
> migrate (or the version of that app) is no longer in the app store, then
> the migration instantly fails. In other words, it just does not work.
>
> Unlike with iOS, on every other operating system NOT Apple, it just works.
>
>>> And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do
>>> it.
>>
>> I run my own servers, little Arlen. I have no need to use someone else's
>> server for this. My IPAs could just as well be on my computer's hard
>> drive - I choose to store them on a file server instead because they are
>> archives and take up valuable space (2.5 TB and growing).
>
> The fact remains only iOS is so brain dead primitive stuck in the stone age
> of computers that it's a dumb terminal that can't even migrate an IPA, JR.
>
> Only with the primitive dumb-terminal iOS design, if that app (or version)
> is no longer on the App Store, the migration fails - and you know this, JR.

Whether that is true or not, it has nothing to do with iOS being
"primitive", Arlen.

It may be a choice you don't like, but it says nothing about the quality
of Apple's software.

On 7/21/2024 5:41 PM, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 20:15:30 GMT :
>
>>>>> My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is
>>>>> mired in the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as
>>>>> primitive as iOS is.
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.
>>>
>>> Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
>>> default.
>>
>> Laughably false, and you're desperately trying to deflect from the point
>> which is that people transfer their data (including all of their apps
>> and their home screen layouts) from old iPhones to their new iPhones
>> every day - something you claim isn't possible.
>
> Hi Jolly Roger,
>
> I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups, one of which is to tell the
> truth about Apple products and the other is to show the world what you
> uneducated ignorant low-IQ Apple fundamentalist religious zealots are.
>
> You are the one who is desperate to make excuses for Apple to "explain
> away" iOS' primitive dumb-terminal brain-dead design which does not save
> the IPA at installation time by default - and hence - you're the one who
> brazenly and repeatedly callously duplicitously lied claiming that iMazing
> had the amazing ability to manufacture the desired IPA out of thin air when
> the offering was no longer on the App Store - not me.
>
> The fact you strange nutcases believe IPAs can be made up out of thin air
> when they don't exist shows you religious zealots for what you really are.
>
>>> Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
>>
>> Projection from an Android zealot.
>
> The fact remains the facts whether or not you like those facts, JR.
>
> 1. Android always saves the installation APK, by default.
> 2. iOS does not.
>
> You *hate* the Stone-Age primitive design of the iPhone, Jolly Roger.
> But you hating it doesn't change that Apple designed iOS that way.

Show the world? Pathologically delusional. You seem to think the world
is paying attention to CSMA.

On 7/21/2024 5:41 PM, Andrew wrote:
<snip>
>
> I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups, one of which is to ...

prove you're a moron who knows absolutely nothing that you're bleating
on about and because yo've got nothing actually useful to do. :-\

Your Name wrote on Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:29:13 +1200 :

>> I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups, one of which is to ...
>
> prove you're a moron who knows absolutely nothing that you're bleating
> on about and because yo've got nothing actually useful to do.

One of the useful things I do on the Apple newsgroups is study zealots.

You are an Apple fundamentalist zealot.

All of the Apple zealots have three inter-related commonalities:
a. None of you have anywhere near a normal IQ
b. Hence, none of you zealots are formally educated
c. As what shows up in all your posts are that you're always ignorant

But that alone isn't what makes you strange people Apple zealots.

What makes you strange people Apple fundamentalist zealots is...
A. You're all herd animals
B. You identify with Apple's (brilliant) advertising
C. But you hate it when Apple never is what Apple says it is

So what do you zealots do when Apple isn't what you thought it was?
1. You first deny all facts about Apple that you didn't know
(which, see above, is a *lot* of facts since you know nothing)
2. Then you make excuses for why Apple does what Apple always does
(which are childish excuses such as Samsung made Apple do it)
3. Lastly, you deflect the conversation away from Apple's faults
(which is where your childish mentality has the most leeway)

You hate me because I expose you for what you are.
And that's OK.

That's why I'm here.

Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 28 Jul 2024 20:16:41 -0400 :

> Show the world? Pathologically delusional. You seem to think the world
> is paying attention to CSMA.

I think the problem with CSAM is simply that it hurts more than it helps.

On 2024-07-29, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 28 Jul 2024 20:16:41 -0400 :
>
>> Show the world? Pathologically delusional. You seem to think the
>> world is paying attention to CSMA.
>
> I think the problem with CSAM is simply that it hurts more than it
> helps.

*WHOOSH*... 🤣

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