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* Find My for iPad w/o cellularConnor Shannon
`* Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularChris
 `* Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularConnor Shannon
  +* Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularJolly Roger
  |`- Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularConnor Shannon
  `* Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularChris
   `* Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularAnt
    +- Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularJolly Roger
    `- Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellularChris

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Subject: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Connor Shannon
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:07 UTC
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From: cshannon1898@yahoo.com (Connor Shannon)
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Subject: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
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Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If you
have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it? It
can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets near a
WiFi network it already knows.

I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o cellular??

Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Chris
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:49 UTC
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From: ithinkiam@gmail.com (Chris)
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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
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Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If you
> have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it? It
> can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets near a
> WiFi network it already knows.
>
> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o cellular??

The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have wifi
either. It's all bluetooth.
https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/

Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Connor Shannon
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 18:45 UTC
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From: cshannon1898@yahoo.com (Connor Shannon)
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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
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On 7/17/24 6:49 AM, Chris wrote:
> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If you
>> have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
>> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it? It
>> can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets near a
>> WiFi network it already knows.
>>
>> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
>> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
>> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o cellular??
>
> The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have wifi
> either. It's all bluetooth.
> https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/
>

Okay, so like I said it's iffy b'cuz it can only use Bluetooth so other
things have to be near it or you can't find it. Not like a iPhone that
can report where it is itself.

Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Jolly Roger
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad
Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 19:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
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On 2024-07-19, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 7/17/24 6:49 AM, Chris wrote:
>> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If
>>> you have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
>>> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it?
>>> It can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets
>>> near a WiFi network it already knows.
>>>
>>> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
>>> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
>>> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o
>>> cellular??
>>
>> The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have
>> wifi either. It's all bluetooth.
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/
>
> Okay, so like I said it's iffy b'cuz it can only use Bluetooth so
> other things have to be near it or you can't find it. Not like a
> iPhone that can report where it is itself.

In practice, Apple devices are almost everywhere there are people. So
AirTags are able to relay their location securely and privately in most
places without much of an issue. In your hypothetical situation where an
iPad is stolen, chances are it's going to be in the vicinity of other
Apple devices at least some of the time after it's stolen, allowing you
to track its physical location, display a custom message on it, play an
alarm sound on it, lock it, and even erase the contents of the startup
drive - all remotely from any iOS device or any computer with a web
browser. In fact you can do all of that ahead of time, and iCloud will
dutifully wait for the computer to connect to the internet and ping the
iCloud service, whenever that happens to be.

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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Chris
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From: ithinkiam@gmail.com (Chris)
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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
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Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 7/17/24 6:49 AM, Chris wrote:
>> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If you
>>> have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
>>> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it? It
>>> can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets near a
>>> WiFi network it already knows.
>>>
>>> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
>>> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
>>> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o cellular??
>>
>> The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have wifi
>> either. It's all bluetooth.
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/
>>
>
> Okay, so like I said it's iffy b'cuz it can only use Bluetooth so other
> things have to be near it or you can't find it. Not like a iPhone that
> can report where it is itself.

It's not at all iffy. It works very reliably because there are billions of
Apple devices above the world.

Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Connor Shannon
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
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From: cshannon1898@yahoo.com (Connor Shannon)
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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
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On 7/19/24 12:13 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-07-19, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 7/17/24 6:49 AM, Chris wrote:
>>> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If
>>>> you have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
>>>> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it?
>>>> It can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets
>>>> near a WiFi network it already knows.
>>>>
>>>> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
>>>> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
>>>> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o
>>>> cellular??
>>>
>>> The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have
>>> wifi either. It's all bluetooth.
>>> https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/
>>
>> Okay, so like I said it's iffy b'cuz it can only use Bluetooth so
>> other things have to be near it or you can't find it. Not like a
>> iPhone that can report where it is itself.
>
> In practice, Apple devices are almost everywhere there are people. So
> AirTags are able to relay their location securely and privately in most
> places without much of an issue. In your hypothetical situation where an
> iPad is stolen, chances are it's going to be in the vicinity of other
> Apple devices at least some of the time after it's stolen, allowing you
> to track its physical location, display a custom message on it, play an
> alarm sound on it, lock it, and even erase the contents of the startup
> drive - all remotely from any iOS device or any computer with a web
> browser. In fact you can do all of that ahead of time, and iCloud will
> dutifully wait for the computer to connect to the internet and ping the
> iCloud service, whenever that happens to be.
>

Thank you I will set it up for that!

Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
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Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On 7/17/24 6:49 AM, Chris wrote:
> >> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If you
> >>> have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
> >>> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it? It
> >>> can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets near a
> >>> WiFi network it already knows.
> >>>
> >>> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
> >>> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
> >>> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o cellular??
> >>
> >> The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have wifi
> >> either. It's all bluetooth.
> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/
> >>
> >
> > Okay, so like I said it's iffy b'cuz it can only use Bluetooth so other
> > things have to be near it or you can't find it. Not like a iPhone that
> > can report where it is itself.

> It's not at all iffy. It works very reliably because there are billions of
> Apple devices above the world.

Well, in S. Korea Find My won't work far away. See
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255210088 :(.
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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Jolly Roger
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On 2024-07-22, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > On 7/17/24 6:49 AM, Chris wrote:
>> >> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If you
>> >>> have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
>> >>> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it? It
>> >>> can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets near a
>> >>> WiFi network it already knows.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
>> >>> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
>> >>> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o cellular??
>> >>
>> >> The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have wifi
>> >> either. It's all bluetooth.
>> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/
>> >>
>> >
>> > Okay, so like I said it's iffy b'cuz it can only use Bluetooth so other
>> > things have to be near it or you can't find it. Not like a iPhone that
>> > can report where it is itself.
>
>> It's not at all iffy. It works very reliably because there are billions of
>> Apple devices above the world.
>
> Well, in S. Korea Find My won't work far away. See
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255210088 :(.

It doesn't work on the moon either. :(.

That definitely means Chris is wrong, right? 🤡

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Subject: Re: Find My for iPad w/o cellular
From: Chris
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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/17/24 6:49 AM, Chris wrote:
>>>> Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi somebody just asked me something and I don't know the answer. If you
>>>>> have a iPad that only does WiFi, what happens if you misplace it
>>>>> somewhere or it gets stolen and you want to use Find My to find it? It
>>>>> can't connect to the Internet to say where it is unless it gets near a
>>>>> WiFi network it already knows.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know maybe it can use Bluetooth if there are other Apple devices
>>>>> around, but that's more iffy. Iphones can get on the Internet with
>>>>> cellular and say where they are, but what about an iPad w/o cellular??
>>>>
>>>> The same way it works with AirPods and AirTags neither of which have wifi
>>>> either. It's all bluetooth.
>>>> https://www.howtogeek.com/725842/what-is-apples-find-my-network/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so like I said it's iffy b'cuz it can only use Bluetooth so other
>>> things have to be near it or you can't find it. Not like a iPhone that
>>> can report where it is itself.
>
>> It's not at all iffy. It works very reliably because there are billions of
>> Apple devices above the world.
>
> Well, in S. Korea Find My won't work far away. See
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255210088 :(.

Interesting. Will bear in mind if I ever go to South Korea. I suspect it
also doesn't work in North korea.

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