Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :

>>>> The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
>>>> location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
>>>> shortcut too).
>>>
>>> False.
>>
>> When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
>> previous phone did not migrate over.
>
> These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring your
> data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and setting
> up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former results in the
> EXACT location of every folder and every app (and every widget &
> shortcut too) being transferred to the new device. The latter naturally
> does not.

Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal brain-dead
iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps, Jolly Roger, with
all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders & even the data itself in
EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone as they were on the old phone.

I'll wait for you to tell us...

HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
It just works.

On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
>
>>>>> The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
>>>>> location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
>>>>> shortcut too).
>>>>
>>>> False.
>>>
>>> When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
>>> previous phone did not migrate over.
>>
>> These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring your
>> data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and setting
>> up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former results in the
>> EXACT location of every folder and every app (and every widget &
>> shortcut too) being transferred to the new device. The latter naturally
>> does not.
>
> Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal brain-dead
> iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps, Jolly Roger, with
> all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders & even the data itself in
> EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone as they were on the old phone.
>
> I'll wait for you to tell us...
>
> HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
> It just works.

You can do exactly that with an iOS device.

On 2024-07-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
>>
>>>>>> The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
>>>>>> location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
>>>>>> shortcut too).
>>>>>
>>>>> False.
>>>>
>>>> When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
>>>> previous phone did not migrate over.
>>>
>>> These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring
>>> your data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and
>>> setting up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former
>>> results in the EXACT location of every folder and every app (and
>>> every widget & shortcut too) being transferred to the new device.
>>> The latter naturally does not.
>>
>> Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal
>> brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps,
>> Jolly Roger, with all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders &
>> even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone
>> as they were on the old phone.
>>
>> I'll wait for you to tell us...
>>
>> HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
>> It just works.
>
> You can do exactly that with an iOS device.

Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows more
about Apple than anyone else.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
>>>
>>>>>>> The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
>>>>>>> location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
>>>>>>> shortcut too).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> False.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
>>>>> previous phone did not migrate over.
>>>>
>>>> These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring
>>>> your data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and
>>>> setting up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former
>>>> results in the EXACT location of every folder and every app (and
>>>> every widget & shortcut too) being transferred to the new device.
>>>> The latter naturally does not.
>>>
>>> Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal
>>> brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps,
>>> Jolly Roger, with all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders &
>>> even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone
>>> as they were on the old phone.
>>>
>>> I'll wait for you to tell us...
>>>
>>> HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
>>> It just works.
>>
>> You can do exactly that with an iOS device.
>
> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
> heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows more
> about Apple than anyone else.
>

Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the phone, the
IT technician did.

On 2024-07-20 13:48, badgolferman wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
>>>>
>>>>>>>> The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
>>>>>>>> location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
>>>>>>>> shortcut too).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> False.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
>>>>>> previous phone did not migrate over.
>>>>>
>>>>> These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring
>>>>> your data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and
>>>>> setting up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former
>>>>> results in the EXACT location of every folder and every app (and
>>>>> every widget & shortcut too) being transferred to the new device.
>>>>> The latter naturally does not.
>>>>
>>>> Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal
>>>> brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps,
>>>> Jolly Roger, with all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders &
>>>> even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone
>>>> as they were on the old phone.
>>>>
>>>> I'll wait for you to tell us...
>>>>
>>>> HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
>>>> It just works.
>>>
>>> You can do exactly that with an iOS device.
>>
>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
>> heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows more
>> about Apple than anyone else.
>>
>
> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the phone, the
> IT technician did.
>

And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.

Alan wrote:

>>>Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims
>>>he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>
>>
>>Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>phone, the IT technician did.
>>
>
>And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.

She. Does that make a difference?

On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>> never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims
>>>> he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>
>>
>> And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>
>
> She. Does that make a difference?

Yes.

As has been presented to you already:

'Choose how you want to transfer your data.

If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
background so that you can start using your new device right away.

If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to wait
for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use them.'

<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>

Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to come
over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is required.

Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?

Alan wrote:

>On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
>>Alan wrote:
>>
>>>>>Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
>>>>>claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>>>phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>
>>>
>>>And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>>
>>
>>She. Does that make a difference?
>
>Yes.
>
>As has been presented to you already:
>
>'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
>
>If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
>background so that you can start using your new device right away.
>
>If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
>wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
>them.'
>
><https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
>
>Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
>come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
>required.
>
>Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?

I think I was there 15-20 minutes. That includes authenticating for
the MDM software and transfer of the phone number through VZW portal.
The required Microsoft apps were already preinstalled before I showed
up.

I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
phone. Considering this was a work phone, there was very little for it
to transfer since all mail is on the Microsoft Exchange servers and I
don't have personal apps or pictures on it.

Alan wrote:

>On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
>>Alan wrote:
>>
>>>>>Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
>>>>>claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>>>phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>
>>>
>>>And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>>
>>
>>She. Does that make a difference?
>
>Yes.
>
>As has been presented to you already:
>
>'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
>
>If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
>background so that you can start using your new device right away.
>
>If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
>wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
>them.'
>
><https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
>
>Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
>come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
>required.
>
>Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?

By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like Jolly
Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.

On 2024-07-20 14:36, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>> never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
>>>>>> claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>>>
>>>
>>> She. Does that make a difference?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> As has been presented to you already:
>>
>> 'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
>>
>> If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
>> background so that you can start using your new device right away.
>>
>> If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
>> wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
>> them.'
>>
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
>>
>> Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
>> come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
>> required.
>>
>> Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
>
>
> I think I was there 15-20 minutes. That includes authenticating for
> the MDM software and transfer of the phone number through VZW portal.
> The required Microsoft apps were already preinstalled before I showed
> up.
>
> I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
> phone. Considering this was a work phone, there was very little for it
> to transfer since all mail is on the Microsoft Exchange servers and I
> don't have personal apps or pictures on it.

I think you'll find that the reason everything wasn't where you left it
was because this wasn't the standard Apple iOS migration, but rather one
mediated by your company's MDM software.

When you perform an ordinary iOS migration from an old device to a new
one, everything is right where you put it.

On 2024-07-20 14:38, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>> never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
>>>>>> claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>>>
>>>
>>> She. Does that make a difference?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> As has been presented to you already:
>>
>> 'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
>>
>> If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
>> background so that you can start using your new device right away.
>>
>> If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
>> wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
>> them.'
>>
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
>>
>> Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
>> come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
>> required.
>>
>> Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
>
> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like Jolly
> Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.

Well thank you.

But you should consider be more forthright about things you're wrong about.

You said:

'I wanted to know what he found objectionable so those specific items
could be addressed. '

I provided those specific things...

....and you never replied on point.

badgolferman wrote on Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:36:54 -0000 (UTC) :

> I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
> phone.

Hi badgolferman,

My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is mired in
the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as primitive as iOS is.

If you don't have access to the IPA on the App Store, you can't back it up.
Right down to the exact version (if that's what you want to transfer over).

If you can't back it up, you can't move it over to another dumb iPhone.

The zealots lied. You can't do it on iOS.
Yet, it works on every other operating system but the dumb-terminal iOS.

That was my main point about how poorly designed Stone-Age iOS truly is.
The rest of iOS backup/restore of your iPhone setup is just further detail.

On 2024-07-20 18:49, Andrew wrote:
> badgolferman wrote on Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:36:54 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
>> phone.
>
> Hi badgolferman,
>
> My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is mired in
> the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as primitive as iOS is.

Apple's system works very well, thanks.

>
> If you don't have access to the IPA on the App Store, you can't back it up.

False.

> Right down to the exact version (if that's what you want to transfer over).

False.

>
> If you can't back it up, you can't move it over to another dumb iPhone.

'Download & Install Apps to iPhone & iPad
Manage your iOS apps your way. Download your apps (.ipa) to your
computer, and install them across your iOS devices.'

<https://imazing.com/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADytgEF3dcSLTUxfyuBso4k_WsVHY&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwO20BhCJARIsAAnTIVTNdmVp44EWW1tAaVERWPvqsFBvblM9XxATwCVrYCs6HGdA2IFmifQaAkyLEALw_wcB>

>
> The zealots lied. You can't do it on iOS.
> Yet, it works on every other operating system but the dumb-terminal iOS.
>
> That was my main point about how poorly designed Stone-Age iOS truly is.
> The rest of iOS backup/restore of your iPhone setup is just further detail.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-20 14:38, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>>> never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
>>>>>>> claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She. Does that make a difference?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> As has been presented to you already:
>>>
>>> 'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
>>>
>>> If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
>>> background so that you can start using your new device right away.
>>>
>>> If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
>>> wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
>>> them.'
>>>
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
>>>
>>> Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
>>> come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
>>> required.
>>>
>>> Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
>>
>> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like Jolly
>> Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.
>
> Well thank you.
>
> But you should consider be more forthright about things you're wrong about.
>
> You said:
>
> 'I wanted to know what he found objectionable so those specific items
> could be addressed. '
>
> I provided those specific things...
>
> ...and you never replied on point.
>

I never said *I* would address them, because I don’t have the technical
knowledge. But they were addressed by others.

On 2024-07-20 19:58, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-20 14:38, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>>>> never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
>>>>>>>> claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> She. Does that make a difference?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>> As has been presented to you already:
>>>>
>>>> 'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
>>>>
>>>> If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
>>>> background so that you can start using your new device right away.
>>>>
>>>> If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
>>>> wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
>>>> them.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
>>>>
>>>> Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
>>>> come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
>>>> required.
>>>>
>>>> Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
>>>
>>> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like Jolly
>>> Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.
>>
>> Well thank you.
>>
>> But you should consider be more forthright about things you're wrong about.
>>
>> You said:
>>
>> 'I wanted to know what he found objectionable so those specific items
>> could be addressed. '
>>
>> I provided those specific things...
>>
>> ...and you never replied on point.
>>
>
> I never said *I* would address them, because I don’t have the technical
> knowledge. But they were addressed by others.
>

That's a dodge and you know it.

The points weren't that technical.

On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
>>>>
>>>>>>>> The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the
>>>>>>>> EXACT location of every folder and every app icon (and every
>>>>>>>> widget & shortcut too).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> False.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
>>>>>> previous phone did not migrate over.
>>>>>
>>>>> These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between
>>>>> transferring your data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to
>>>>> the new one and setting up the phone as new and signing into
>>>>> iCloud. The former results in the EXACT location of every folder
>>>>> and every app (and every widget & shortcut too) being transferred
>>>>> to the new device. The latter naturally does not.
>>>>
>>>> Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal
>>>> brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps,
>>>> Jolly Roger, with all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders &
>>>> even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone
>>>> as they were on the old phone.
>>>>
>>>> I'll wait for you to tell us...
>>>>
>>>> HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no
>>>> cloud). It just works.
>>>
>>> You can do exactly that with an iOS device.
>>
>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
>> heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
>> more about Apple than anyone else.
>
> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
> phone, the IT technician did.

Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone is
wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word) is
that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder and
every app to a new iPhone from an old
iPhone.

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On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
>>>> heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
>>>> more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>
>>> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>
>> And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>
> She. Does that make a difference?

Nope, gender is also irrelevant, silly boy.

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On 2024-07-21, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-20 14:36, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
>>>>>>> never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims
>>>>>>> he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you didn’t read the original message. I didn’t migrate the
>>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
>>>>>
>>>>> And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
>>>>
>>>> She. Does that make a difference?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> As has been presented to you already:
>>>
>>> 'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
>>>
>>> If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
>>> background so that you can start using your new device right away.
>>>
>>> If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
>>> wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
>>> them.'
>>>
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
>>>
>>> Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
>>> come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
>>> required.
>>>
>>> Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
>>
>> I think I was there 15-20 minutes. That includes authenticating for
>> the MDM software and transfer of the phone number through VZW portal.
>> The required Microsoft apps were already preinstalled before I showed
>> up.
>>
>> I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
>> phone. Considering this was a work phone, there was very little for
>> it to transfer since all mail is on the Microsoft Exchange servers
>> and I don't have personal apps or pictures on it.
>
> I think you'll find that the reason everything wasn't where you left
> it was because this wasn't the standard Apple iOS migration, but
> rather one mediated by your company's MDM software.

Nah. He'll just claim "ignorance" and pretend Arlen is right.

> When you perform an ordinary iOS migration from an old device to a new
> one, everything is right where you put it.

Everyone but Arlen and badgolferman knows this from first-hand
experience. But they'll never acknowledge or admit this reality,
because: troll.

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On 2024-07-21, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> badgolferman wrote on Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:36:54 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
>> phone.
>
> Hi badgolferman,
>
> My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is mired in
> the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as primitive as iOS is.

LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.

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On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
> Jolly Roger.

Heh heh heh... I'm happy to ruffle your cowardly feathers, little troll
boy.

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On 2024-07-21, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-20 14:38, badgolferman wrote:
>>>
>>> By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
>>> Jolly Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.
>>
>> Well thank you.
>>
>> But you should consider be more forthright about things you're wrong
>> about.
>>
>> You said:
>>
>> 'I wanted to know what he found objectionable so those specific items
>> could be addressed. '
>>
>> I provided those specific things...
>>
>> ...and you never replied on point.
>>
>
> I never said *I* would address them, because I don’t have the
> technical knowledge. But they were addressed by others.

Ever the coward.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 04:02:22 GMT :

>> When you perform an ordinary iOS migration from an old device to a new
>> one, everything is right where you put it.
>
> Everyone but Arlen and badgolferman knows this from first-hand
> experience. But they'll never acknowledge or admit this reality,
> because: troll.

Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.

It's interesting that the zealots are so desperate to fabricate imaginary
magic functionality for Apple's products such that they brazenly lie that
these products perform the miracle of creating an IPA out of thin air.

Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie about magic IPAs?

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 04:03:07 GMT :

>> My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is mired in
>> the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as primitive as iOS is.
>
> LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.

Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.

It's interesting that the zealots are so desperate to fabricate imaginary
magic functionality for Apple's products such that they brazenly lie that
these products perform the miracle of creating an IPA out of thin air.

Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie about magic IPAs?

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 04:05:01 GMT :

> Ever the coward.

Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.

It's interesting that the zealots are so desperate to fabricate imaginary
magic functionality for Apple's products such that they brazenly lie that
these products perform the miracle of creating an IPA out of thin air.

Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie about magic IPAs?

Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 03:59:13 GMT :

>>> Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
>>> heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
>>> more about Apple than anyone else.
>>
>> Maybe you didn�t read the original message. I didn�t migrate the
>> phone, the IT technician did.
>
> Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone is
> wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
> everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word) is
> that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder and
> every app to a new iPhone from an old
> iPhone.

And yet, Jolly Roger just lied that magical IPAs appear out of thin air.

Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.

It's interesting that the zealots are so desperate to fabricate imaginary
magic functionality for Apple's products such that they brazenly lie that
these products perform the miracle of creating an IPA out of thin air.

Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie about magic IPAs?