Chris wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:48:24 +0100 :

> There isn't one.

Chris is so far to the left of Mount Stupid, that he thinks he's a genius
when he's only proving he denies what he's ignorant of but everyone else
knows all about it - since it has been in the news around the world.
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15881&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15881>

These Mount Stupid religious zealots know nothing.
And deny everything.

What's no longer shocking is how far to the left of Mount Stupid these
uneducated low-IQ ignorant Apple religious fanatical zealots truly are.

They're so confident in always being so very wrong about everything!

<https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/ecodesign-and-energy-label/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en>
"Ecodesign requirements will apply to mobile phones and tablets
put on the EU market from 20 June 2025 onwards, including:
...
sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
...

On 2024-07-15 16:37, Andrew wrote:
> Chris wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:48:24 +0100 :
>
>> There isn't one.
>
> Chris is so far to the left of Mount Stupid, that he thinks he's a genius
> when he's only proving he denies what he's ignorant of but everyone else
> knows all about it - since it has been in the news around the world.
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=15881&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#15881>

You posted that 11 minutes ago...

....and it contains no reference to any current EU test for battery
longevity.

>
> These Mount Stupid religious zealots know nothing.
> And deny everything.
>
> What's no longer shocking is how far to the left of Mount Stupid these
> uneducated low-IQ ignorant Apple religious fanatical zealots truly are.
>
> They're so confident in always being so very wrong about everything!
>
> <https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/ecodesign-and-energy-label/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en>
> "Ecodesign requirements will apply to mobile phones and tablets
> put on the EU market from 20 June 2025 onwards, including:
> ...
> sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
> at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
> while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
> ...

That's not a test that exists today.

The fact that you're citing it shows you know you have nothing.

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:48:24 +0100 :
>
>> There isn't one.
>
> <https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/ecodesign-and-energy-label/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en>
> "Ecodesign requirements will apply to mobile phones and tablets
> put on the EU market from 20 June 2025 onwards, including:
> ...
> sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
> at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
> while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
> ...

Thanks for sharing the link for the first time despite ranting about this
for the best part of three days.

Now point to where the regulation confirms the subject of this thread i.e.
"every iphone <15 fails the EU [battery] longevity test". Note the key
word "fails". Apple (or any other manufacturer) choosing to omit legacy
models from new regulations is not equivalent to failing to meet the
regulations.

Chris wrote on Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:58:01 -0000 (UTC) :

> Thanks for sharing the link for the first time despite ranting about this
> for the best part of three days.
>
> Now point to where the regulation confirms the subject of this thread i.e.
> "every iphone <15 fails the EU [battery] longevity test". Note the key
> word "fails". Apple (or any other manufacturer) choosing to omit legacy
> models from new regulations is not equivalent to failing to meet the
> regulations.

It's not so bad that you zealots are ignorant of everything about Apple.
What sets you zealots apart is you brazenly deny what everyone else knows.

*Why iPhone 15 Batteries Are Now Rated for 1,000 Charge Cycles*
<https://www.inverse.com/tech/why-iphone-15-battery-charge-cycles-increased-from-500-to-1000>

Everyone knows about the EU mandate - they don't keep these things secret.
<https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=16035&group=uk.telecom.mobile#16035>

Everything public about Apple is only secret to you ignorant Apple zealots.
Yet you ignorant zealots still brazenly deny what everyone else long knew.
<https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R1670>

What you zealots need to do is stop brazenly denying what only you don't
know, as denying all facts you are ignorant of is a Mount Stupid DK trait.
<https://repair.eu/news/new-eu-rules-smartphones-and-tablets-will-follow-new-ecodesign-requirements-by-june-2025/>

Another DK Mount Stupid trait all you Apple zealots have is denying
everything you're ignorant of that even Apple doesn't try to deny.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/101575>

That wouldn't be so bad if you zealots weren't ignorant of everything
since Apple has been very open and honest that only the iPhones 15 & up
meet EU minimum battery life standards set to go into effect in 1 year.
<https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_3315>

It's not really important that you strange Apple zealots are ignorant.
What's important is your strange DK Mount Stupid propensity to deny it.

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:58:01 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> Thanks for sharing the link for the first time despite ranting about this
>> for the best part of three days.
>>
>> Now point to where the regulation confirms the subject of this thread i.e.
>> "every iphone <15 fails the EU [battery] longevity test". Note the key
>> word "fails". Apple (or any other manufacturer) choosing to omit legacy
>> models from new regulations is not equivalent to failing to meet the
>> regulations.
>
> It's not so bad that you zealots are ignorant of everything about Apple.
> What sets you zealots apart is you brazenly deny what everyone else knows.
>
> *Why iPhone 15 Batteries Are Now Rated for 1,000 Charge Cycles*
> <https://www.inverse.com/tech/why-iphone-15-battery-charge-cycles-increased-from-500-to-1000>

Interesting that all it required was an ios update. Looks like Apple simply
aligned itself to the EU testing regime rather than change/improve any
hardware.

> Everyone knows about the EU mandate - they don't keep these things secret.
> <https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=16035&group=uk.telecom.mobile#16035>

You only posted that last night. "everyone" lol.

> Everything public about Apple is only secret to you ignorant Apple zealots.
> Yet you ignorant zealots still brazenly deny what everyone else long knew.
> <https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32023R1670>

What exactly is being denied?

> What you zealots need to do is stop brazenly denying what only you don't
> know, as denying all facts you are ignorant of is a Mount Stupid DK trait.
> <https://repair.eu/news/new-eu-rules-smartphones-and-tablets-will-follow-new-ecodesign-requirements-by-june-2025/>
>
> Another DK Mount Stupid trait all you Apple zealots have is denying
> everything you're ignorant of that even Apple doesn't try to deny.
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/101575>
>
> That wouldn't be so bad if you zealots weren't ignorant of everything
> since Apple has been very open and honest that only the iPhones 15 & up
> meet EU minimum battery life standards set to go into effect in 1 year.
> <https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_3315>
>
> It's not really important that you strange Apple zealots are ignorant.

You normally take this opportunity to claim how amazing android devices
are. The fact that you aren't suggests they're no better.

Or do you have information to share that google & samsung have been
compliant far longer? Or did they simply adjust the numbers like Apple did?