Your Name wrote on Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:11:51 +1200 :

> On 2024-06-29 01:29:59 +0000, <bp@www.zefox.net> said:
>>
>> For some time the iPhone6 I carry for emergencies has asked
>> for my apple ID. I always touch "not now" and go about my
>> business. So far, there hasn't been any repercussion and
>> the phone works when I need it.
>>
>> Why is the phone asking, and will something bad happen, like the
>> phone not working, if I keep hitting "not now"?
>>
>> Thanks for reading,
>>
>> bob prohaska
>
> Shouldn't be any problem, but there are many reasons why it might be
> asking for it, so you may want to look into why it keeps asking. Apple
> ID is required for things like iCloud features, updating of apps of
> iOS, recent changes to your Touch ID or Face ID, etc., etc.

When you buy an Apple product - you buy into the dumb-terminal ecosystem.

Worse, you buy into Apple storing huge amounts of your metadata on the net!
*I asked Apple for all my data. Here's what was sent back*
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-data-collection-stored-request/>

These files "contain metadata, like when and who I messaged or called on
FaceTime" which is a privacy flaw inherent in the dumb-terminal model.

For example, Apple unilaterally inserts, into every IPA you install, a
*unique* code specific only to you so that Apple can track app activity.

For example, Apple keeps a copy of every app and song you have ever
downloaded and every tune you've ever added to your iTunes music library.

Most users are completely unaware there is no common consumer operating
system other than Apple's which require you to constantly log into their
mothership servers for the basic functionality you know & love about iOS.

And Apple never advertises the huge amount of data it stores about you.
�*Apple took 8 days to give me the data it had collected on me. It was eye opening*
�<https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/04/asked-apple-everything-had-me-heres-what-got/558362002/>

Apple uses some of this immense data to"sell targeted ads based on our
interests in the News and App Store apps" (see that in the references cited
since most of the Apple religious zealots hate all truths about Apple).

1. The walled garden does not work if you don't log into Apple servers.
2. There are *many* Apple servers you need to log into for it to work.
3. There's the iCloud & the Apple AppStore, Messages, Facetime, etc.

On two separate iPads, I have refused to log into those accounts, and what
happens, naturally, is you are eventually unable to use the walled garden.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR5mZ287/appleid07.jpg> Apple fails App Store test
<https://i.postimg.cc/TwN6P0QR/appleid08.jpg> Only Apple requires a login
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
<https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login

But you can use "some" of the features of the walled garden; just not all.
<https://i.postimg.cc/9XtgRz0y/mothership01.jpg> Apple forces verification
<https://i.postimg.cc/q73jkvWh/mothership02.jpg> into mothership trackers
<https://i.postimg.cc/7hmNBGJc/mothership03.jpg> Safari & Chrome work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/GhmK4QZ1/mothership04.jpg> So does Youtube work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/vBv7BghB/mothership05.jpg> No problem with web pages
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjtyVmqp/mothership06.jpg> The walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/ht79m3sN/mothership07.jpg> iMessage garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/5tBL7YZ3/mothership08.jpg> FaceTime garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store finds 1Blocker
<https://i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do iCloud

Which means, Apple designed iOS as a "dumb terminal" which gets much of its
beloved functionality only by logging into Apple's mainframe servers for
most of the beloved walled-garden functionality - without which - the iOS
device reverts to a dumb terminal that can't do what you love about iOS.

Paradoxically, while all the beloved walled-garden functionality eventually
disappears after about two years (tested on two different iPads) of
refusing to log into the walled-garden Apple servers, the one functionality
that remained was the capability of updating your operating system version.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hvhgB91S/update01.jpg> iPadOS 16.3.1 is available
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qtfsw654/update02.jpg> 16.3.1 Update Requested
<https://i.postimg.cc/vmLGL8md/update03.jpg> About 10 minutes remaining
<https://i.postimg.cc/d11gkJk6/update04.jpg> Preparing Update
<https://i.postimg.cc/rw1B7n21/update05.jpg> Downloaded
<https://i.postimg.cc/yN7MKm7w/update06.jpg> Finish Setting Up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/13DSsRwN/update07.jpg> More for your iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Xv80B22j/update08.jpg> Update Apple ID Settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/TYLGNJP0/update09.jpg> iPadOS Version 16.3.1
<https://i.postimg.cc/L509Yy8Y/update10.jpg> Sign in to iCloud
<https://i.postimg.cc/zvfDfm8Y/update11.jpg> Finished Setting up iPad
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Nbnxtn/update12.jpg> Verifying update...

In summary, of all common consumer operating systems (including Windows
11), only the Apple operating systems are designed essentially as dumb
terminals which don't do what you love about them without logging into the
mainframe servers, of which you are logged into them 24/7/365 while
enjoying Apple products.

Clearly Apple never advertises that most of the genius of the walled garden
is simply that the user is making use of these Internet services, all of
which are tracked in detail and every one of which contains privacy
metadata which can be detrimental to your privacy & which is saved by
Apple.

When you buy an Apple product - you buy into the dumb-terminal ecosystem.

Here's a snippet of the information Apple maintains due to the inherently
flawed nature (from a privacy standpoint) of the dumb-terminal iOS model.

AccountDetails.xlsx contains basic information about the account holder,
including name, address, phone number, and Apple ID information. It also
includes when an account was created and IP address of the Apple server
used to open the account.

iCloudLogs.xlsx keeps a note on every time one of your devices downloads
data from iCloud, including your photo library, contacts, and Safari
browsing history -- but doesn't contain the actual data.

MailLogs.xlsx also keeps a record of each time something from your Apple
device interacts with your iCloud email account, but no email content is
stored here.

Two more files relate to Apple's flagship end-to-end encrypted messaging
apps, FaceTime and iMessage. Because even Apple can't access the content of
encrypted video calls and text messages, Apple can't turn over the data,
but it can provide information on all the calls and messages that are
routed through its servers.

In both the FaceTime and IDS (iMessage) logs, notes read that the logs only
indicate if there was an attempt to place a FaceTime call or to send an
iMessage, because both requests are sent through Apple's servers. But
neither log whether the call was made or message was sent, let alone if it
was successful.

In a separate folder, another batch of Excel documents contained
information mostly pertaining to with my interactions with Apple, like
downloads and support requests.

AOS Orders contains an entire history of devices and accessories I've
bought from Apple dating back to my first purchase. It also includes the
five separate occasions I bought new earphones roughly once per year
because my cat had chewed through them.

CRM Installed Product is a list of every Apple device ever bought,
including highly detailed information -- like serial numbers, a note on if
a device is unlocked, unique networking MAC addresses for Bluetooth,
Ethernet and Wi-Fi connections, and any other identifying information on a
device.

Read also: What would Steve Jobs think of today's Apple?

CRM AppleCare Case Contact contains basic contact information on the
account holder, such as name, address, and phone number -- and if the user
opts into marketing emails and phone calls.

CRM AppleCare Case Header included every interaction I've had with customer
support. Every time you call, a company representatives make notes about
the customer's problem, and also describes the next steps or the outcome of
the call.

CRM Warranty includes all the information on a device owner's warranty,
what AppleCare coverage they have -- if any, and when warranties expire.

DS Signons is a long list of every time you logged in to iTunes and from
which specific device, and contains peripheral information like if the
login failed.

On 2024-06-28 21:44, Andrew wrote:
> Your Name wrote on Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:11:51 +1200 :
>
>> On 2024-06-29 01:29:59 +0000, <bp@www.zefox.net> said:
>>>
>>> For some time the iPhone6 I carry for emergencies has asked
>>> for my apple ID. I always touch "not now" and go about my
>>> business. So far, there hasn't been any repercussion and
>>> the phone works when I need it.
>>>
>>> Why is the phone asking, and will something bad happen, like the
>>> phone not working, if I keep hitting "not now"?
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>>
>>> bob prohaska
>>
>> Shouldn't be any problem, but there are many reasons why it might be
>> asking for it, so you may want to look into why it keeps asking. Apple
>> ID is required for things like iCloud features, updating of apps of
>> iOS, recent changes to your Touch ID or Face ID, etc., etc.
>
> When you buy an Apple product - you buy into the dumb-terminal ecosystem.

Why must you lie, Arlen?

On 2024-06-29 01:36, Alan wrote:

> Why must you lie, Arlen?

It breathes too. Can't help it.

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Alan Browne wrote on Sun, 30 Jun 2024 12:42:27 -0400 :

> Can't help it.

What's interesting is how much Apple religious fundamentalists *hate* the
fact that the iPhone is designed as nothing more than an extremely dumb
terminal - devoid of even the most basic functionality all by itself.

The entire walled garden is like a matrix - where the ignorant Apple owner
has no comprehension that everything they do is being done on the mainframe
(and not on the device they are holding in their hands).

The matrix is in Cupertino servers - where they laugh at you every day.

On Jun 30, 2024 at 12:42:27 PM EDT, "Alan Browne" <singularity@blackhole.org>
wrote:

> On 2024-06-29 01:36, Alan wrote:
>
>> Why must you lie, Arlen?
>
> It breathes too. Can't help it.

And the usual suspects ALWAYS reply to him. Can't help it.

Dance, puppets. Dance.

On 2024-06-30 10:19, Andrew wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote on Sun, 30 Jun 2024 12:42:27 -0400 :
>
>> Can't help it.
>
> What's interesting is how much Apple religious fundamentalists *hate* the
> fact that the iPhone is designed as nothing more than an extremely dumb
> terminal - devoid of even the most basic functionality all by itself.

What's sad for you as a human is that you think lying is acceptable.

Tyrone wrote on Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:26:11 +0000 :

> Can't help it.

Most of the ignorant MAGA (Make Apple Great Again) religious fundamentalist
zealots simply log into every server Apple wants them to log into.

The OP is asking an intelligent question about what happens if he doesn't
constantly log into Apple's matrix servers every moment of his life.

Given the iPhone is designed as a dumb terminal almost completely devoid of
any functionality without logging into Apple's mainframe matrix servers,
it's a valid question the OP asked of why iOS is constantly asking (five,
ten, fifteen, twenty times a day!) for him to log into Apple's servers.

On 2024-06-30 13:26, Tyrone wrote:
> On Jun 30, 2024 at 12:42:27 PM EDT, "Alan Browne" <singularity@blackhole.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-06-29 01:36, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> Why must you lie, Arlen?
>>
>> It breathes too. Can't help it.
>
> And the usual suspects ALWAYS reply to him. Can't help it.
>
> Dance, puppets. Dance.

Been trying to get them off of the dance floor for a long time.
(Though I've been guilty of the occasional reply myself).

--
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the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

On 2024-06-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-06-30 10:19, Andrew wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote on Sun, 30 Jun 2024 12:42:27 -0400 :
>>
>>> Can't help it.
>>
>> What's interesting is how much Apple religious fundamentalists *hate*
>> the fact that the iPhone is designed as nothing more than an
>> extremely dumb terminal - devoid of even the most basic functionality
>> all by itself.
>
> What's sad for you as a human is that you think lying is acceptable.

It's really sad that that character trait is prevalent today in so many
people.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 30 Jun 2024 23:38:49 GMT :

> It's really sad that that character trait is prevalent today in so many
> people.

Says Jolly Roger who lied for years claiming that Apple fully supported
more than a single release when even Apple wouldn't spew that brazen lie.

<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

Back to the topic at hand, the fact is Apple products don't work in the
real world if you simply don't log into Apple mainframe servers daily.

1. You can't do the simplest things without logging into Apple's mainframe
2. You can't install apps
3. You can't use the messenger app the way you're used to using it
4. You can't use the facetime app
5. You can't use activation Lock
6. You can't do seamless Apple Music or Apple TV+ streaming across devices
7. You can't use homeKit-compatible devices
8. You can't back up your installed IPAs
9. You can't even update the operating system
etc.

There is only one other common consumer operating system set up as a
similar dumb terminal lacking even the most basic functionality, and that's
ChromeOS (which might even be worse than iOS given how limited it too is).

ChromeOS === iOS (same dumb terminal concept)

Both ChromeOS & iOS have no innate functionality without constantly logging
into the Apple mainframe matrix servers for most of its basic capabilities.

On 2024-06-30 18:12, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 30 Jun 2024 23:38:49 GMT :
>
>> It's really sad that that character trait is prevalent today in so many
>> people.
>
> Says Jolly Roger who lied for years claiming that Apple fully supported
> more than a single release when even Apple wouldn't spew that brazen lie.

"Sponsored", Arlen?

>
> <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
> <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
> <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>
>
> Back to the topic at hand, the fact is Apple products don't work in the
> real world if you simply don't log into Apple mainframe servers daily.
>
> 1. You can't do the simplest things without logging into Apple's mainframe

False.

> 2. You can't install apps

Sort of true.

> 3. You can't use the messenger app the way you're used to using it

Depends on the app.

> 4. You can't use the facetime app

True, but there is no requirement to use that app.

> 5. You can't use activation Lock

????

> 6. You can't do seamless Apple Music or Apple TV+ streaming across devices

How would you do that without a consistent ID?

> 7. You can't use homeKit-compatible devices

Cite, please!

> 8. You can't back up your installed IPAs

False.

> 9. You can't even update the operating system

False.

On Jun 30, 2024 at 4:38:49 PM PDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2024-06-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-06-30 10:19, Andrew wrote:
>>> Alan Browne wrote on Sun, 30 Jun 2024 12:42:27 -0400 :
>>>
>>>> Can't help it.
>>>
>>> What's interesting is how much Apple religious fundamentalists *hate*
>>> the fact that the iPhone is designed as nothing more than an
>>> extremely dumb terminal - devoid of even the most basic functionality
>>> all by itself.
>>
>> What's sad for you as a human is that you think lying is acceptable.
>
> It's really sad that that character trait is prevalent today in so many
> people.

The unending presence of political "news" in our daily lives has made
mendacity almost fashionable.

On 2024-07-01, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 30 Jun 2024 23:38:49 GMT :
>
>> It's really sad that that character trait is prevalent today in so
>> many people.
>
> Says Jolly Roger who lied for years claiming that Apple fully
> supported more than a single release when even Apple wouldn't spew
> that brazen lie.

I've never said that. Like Trump and Republican politicians, Andrew just
spews outright lies, but he can't show a single post from me saying what
he claims. And like Trump and Republican politicians, Andrew's trolls
are as weak as his intellect.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 03:09:02 GMT :

>> Says Jolly Roger who lied for years claiming that Apple fully
>> supported more than a single release when even Apple wouldn't spew
>> that brazen lie.
>
> I've never said that.

It's not surprising that you lie about your brazen lies, Jolly Roger.

Remember, I've studied you strange Apple religious zealots & what pops up
consistently is you *hate* that Apple isn't what Apple advertises it is.

The fact is Apple has the worst operating system bugfix support of all
common consumer operating systems - and even Apple says this is the case.
<https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>

Apple's hotfix support is not only the worst in the industry, but Apple's
iOS monolith didn't even have the concept of a "hotfix" until recently.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>

What you dislike about me, Jolly Roger, is you have no defense to facts.

On 2024-07-01, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 03:09:02 GMT :
>
>>> Says Jolly Roger who lied for years claiming that Apple fully
>>> supported more than a single release when even Apple wouldn't spew
>>> that brazen lie.
>>
>> I've never said that.
>
> It's not surprising that you lie

Notice how little Andrew can't provide a cite of me saying what he
claims. Instead, like a child, he just doubles down on his lame lie.
Lies and weak zealot trolls are all Andrew has to offer this news group.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 13:56:47 GMT :

> Notice how little Andrew can't provide a cite of me saying what he
> claims. Instead, like a child, he just doubles down on his lame lie.
> Lies and weak zealot trolls are all Andrew has to offer this news group.

Heh heh heh... you lied for years, Jolly Roger... and you still lie.

Want proof?
Simply answer this direct question with a YES or NO please.

Q: Does Apple fix all known bugs in only the latest iOS/macOS release?
A: (YES or NO)

HINT: There's a reason the iPhone is the most exploited phone in history.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

On 2024-07-01, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 13:56:47 GMT :
>
>> Notice how little Andrew can't provide a cite of me saying what he
>> claims. Instead, like a child, he just doubles down on his lame lie.
>> Lies and weak zealot trolls are all Andrew has to offer this news group.
>
> Heh heh heh...

Still no cite. Your trolls are weak, little boy.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 16:28:14 GMT :

>>> Notice how little Andrew can't provide a cite of me saying what he
>>> claims. Instead, like a child, he just doubles down on his lame lie.
>>> Lies and weak zealot trolls are all Andrew has to offer this news group.
>>
>> Heh heh heh...
>
> Still no cite. Your trolls are weak, little boy.

Heh heh heh... You don't even know the answer to that question, JR.
That's how little you strange religious zealots know about Apple products.

Q: Does Apple fix all known bugs in only the latest iOS/macOS release?
A: No.
Unlike every other common consumer operating system which fully
supports more than one release, Apple has never fully supported
more than a single release. That's how bad Apple support truly is.

Worse, you don't even remember your own lies, Jolly Roger, where you claim
that the mere fact Apple fixed *one* bug in an older release, means, (to
people like you) that Apple fixed *all* the known bugs in that release.

Always remember how much you *hate* that Apple never is what you wish Apple
was, where, to compensate for Apple not being what you wish Apple was,
you lied for years that Apple fixed all known bugs in older releases.

If you insist, I'll pull up *many* cites where you lied that way, JR.
Test me.

Andrew wrote on Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:37:35 -0000 (UTC) :

> Q: Does Apple fix all known bugs in only the latest iOS/macOS release?
> A: No.
> Unlike every other common consumer operating system which fully
> supports more than one release, Apple has never fully supported
> more than a single release. That's how bad Apple support truly is.

Oops. YES. Apple was forced to publish recently that Apple has never
provided the full hotfix support that all other common consumer operating
systems provide - in that Apple only fully supports 1 & only 1 release.

<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

What's no longer shocking isn't that Apple has the absolute worst operating
system bugfix support in the industry - but that the strange Apple
religious fundamentalist zealots are completely ignorant of this fact.

Worse than having the worst promised hotfix support in the industry, Apple
also has the shortest when compared to major OEMs like Google & Samsung.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/>

There's a reason the iPhone is the most exploited phone in history.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

On 2024-07-01, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 16:28:14 GMT :
>
>>>> Notice how little Andrew can't provide a cite of me saying what he
>>>> claims. Instead, like a child, he just doubles down on his lame lie.
>>>> Lies and weak zealot trolls are all Andrew has to offer this news group.
>>>
>>> Heh heh heh...
>>
>> Still no cite. Your trolls are weak, little boy.
>
> Heh heh heh...

Still no cite. You lose.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 23:08:59 GMT :

>>> Still no cite. Your trolls are weak, little boy.
>>
>> Heh heh heh...
>
> Still no cite. You lose.

It's no longer shocking you're ashamed of your own words.

In the time IOS updates once - Android updates a thousand times
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/>

You claim because Apple fixed one bug in an older release, that they fixed
them all (which is patently absurd - but it's how you zealots think).

On 2024-07-01 19:28, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 23:08:59 GMT :
>
>>>> Still no cite. Your trolls are weak, little boy.
>>>
>>> Heh heh heh...
>>
>> Still no cite. You lose.
>
> It's no longer shocking...

....that when you're challenged to provide a cite, you have nothing?

No: that's no longer shocking at all!

:-)

Andrew wrote on Tue, 2 Jul 2024 02:28:13 -0000 (UTC) :

>>> Heh heh heh...
>>
>> Still no cite. You lose.
>
> It's no longer shocking you're ashamed of your own words.
>
> In the time IOS updates once - Android updates a thousand times
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/>
>
> You claim because Apple fixed one bug in an older release, that they fixed
> them all (which is patently absurd - but it's how you zealots think).

The URL got truncated, but it's just one of extremely many instances where
Jolly Roger claimed that simply because Apple fixed one bug in an older
release, that EVERY bug that Apple knew about in those releases was fixed.

In the time IOS updates once - Android updates a thousand times
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/tyM38E9o9vE/>

The fact is these strange Apple religious zealots lied about it for years!
More evidence low-IQ iKooks don't understand how a MODERN OS is updated
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/Vp9fPsDbJ1g/>

On 2024-07-02, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Jul 2024 23:08:59 GMT :
>
>>>> Still no cite. Your trolls are weak, little boy.
>>>
>>> Heh heh heh...
>>
>> Still no cite. You lose.
>
> It's no longer shocking you're ashamed of your own words.

It's no longer shocking you can't prove your lies.

> You claim because Apple fixed one bug in an older release, that they
> fixed them all

I never said that. Yet another lie you can't back up.

Your trolls are as weak as your intellect, little Andrew.

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On 2024-07-02, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Andrew wrote on Tue, 2 Jul 2024 02:28:13 -0000 (UTC) :
>
> Jolly Roger claimed that simply because Apple fixed one bug in an
> older release, that EVERY bug that Apple knew about in those releases
> was fixed.

I did not in fact make that claim. And little Andrew can't provide a
cite of me saying it either, as usual. His lies are weak.

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